🎬 Finnish War Movie: Ambush Reaction | Emotional & Epic Moments

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Jay and Thea's Reactions

Jay and Thea's Reactions

Күн бұрын

Join me as I dive into an intense Finnish war drama, also known as 'Ambush,' that blends gripping action with unexpected twists and deep emotional highs. This reaction video covers all the powerful moments, from epic battles to heartfelt scenes, providing commentary and insights throughout. Perfect for fans of Finnish war films and emotional storytelling!
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@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Hey there and thanks for watching the video. A couple of points to preempt typical questions and comments 1) Under EU law, extensive commentary is required to stay in compliance with the law. Hence why you see so few EU based reactors. If you don't like it, complain to your EU representative or go to another channel. I do what I need to do, to get the video up and avoid a lawsuit! 2) I am not an armchair soldier who reads books about every possible weapons type, I was an actual soldier with field experience. That's is what really matters and those without field experience and know every weapon would likely die, day 1 of any battle. I comment from real experience. If you don't like - there's plenty of other channels you can go to to get that. Now after saying all of that I hope you enjoy the video and if you do, please leave a like, comment or even share the video. If you would like to support the channel, I have a link to my patreon below where you can get a 7 day free trial and will be able to check out the full length reaction to the movie as well as my Band of Brothers reactions. You will also get access to my videos from my other two channels on the Paranormal, True Crime and Christianity. patreon.com/JaysRetroReactions?Link Enjoy your weekends all and God Bless!
@Timonen76
@Timonen76 Ай бұрын
That soldier who was wounded on the bridge; if I remember right, it might have been a true story. The cold water in the river stopped the bleeding.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching the video Timonen as always. He was indeed real as some other commentors have confirmed and yes, the cold water slowing the bleeding makes sense. Seemingly the real guys was in his 40s when the incident happened and only died in the 1980s - tough dude!
@peo4989
@peo4989 Ай бұрын
This is one of my fav finnish warmovies. Great actors too.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching the video and yes I agree the acting was good. I'm glad you enjoyed the movie, if you made it through to the end of my video you will see I had mixed feelings on it mainly because I think it couldn't make up it's mind on whether it wanted to be a war movie or love story and the fact that they made the Lieutenant so unlikeable as a character that it was hard to feel any sympathy for him when he actively getting his men killed.
@CanalDuModem
@CanalDuModem Ай бұрын
"Una furtiva lagrima" is from Gaetano Donizetti's opera "L'elisir d'amore", 1832.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate for watching and for filling me in on the song. I appreciate it
@IsmoLaitakari
@IsmoLaitakari 6 күн бұрын
The actual recce patrol was conducted by Ltn Pentti Perttuli. I have read his memoirs. The miraclous survival of Cpl Saarinen really happened during the patrol. Most of the other events have been adapted by the author Antti Tuuri.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions 6 күн бұрын
Thanks mate for watching and for sharing that information. Much appreciated
@filipohman7277
@filipohman7277 Ай бұрын
Awesome Movie and Work Bro, Thanks!!!!👍👍👍😎 Greetings from Helsinki, Finland🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate for watching and for your kind comments. It makes up for a lot of the flak I get on here sometimes so I really appreciate it and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Have a blessed week friend!
@filipohman7277
@filipohman7277 Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions Thanks Bro!!!👍👍😎
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
You're welcome mate!
@Zarniwooper
@Zarniwooper 10 күн бұрын
The last supper reference when the guy was singing in italian was powerful.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and very true. The song and imagery was powerful in that scene
@M1kk1zzz
@M1kk1zzz Ай бұрын
Nice to see another finnish war movie reaction! I agree with you on so many levels with this film 😅 it looks great and has lot of great finnish actors (specially Peter Franzen who has the main role) but as a critical view the film has so many points just don't make sense. Jay would you consider do a reaction video of "Framom främsta linjen - Etulinjan edessä" some point in the future? The movie tells a true story and takes place during continuation war from finnish side - though the regiment native language is swedish. In my opinion it's the second best finnish war movie - after the "Unknown Soldier"
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate for watching - as always I appreciate it! I was worried before releasing it that I may upset a lot of people raining down criticism on a Finnish national treasure but luckily it seems almost everyone agrees with me to some extent on the movie. I don't know if you made it to the end of the video or not but I did praise the Actor (Peter Franzen) as he made me hate him so much ha ha. Thanks for the recommendation and I would be glad to do the reaction - one Caveat is if I can track down an English subtitled version but I will start looking. Have a good weekend mate.
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia Ай бұрын
That Framom Främsta Linjen film is about Harry Järv. An very interesting thing about that man was that he ended up wounded and he got medical help in Stockholm, Sweden. The MOST amazing thing about that is that during that time he met his wife, who lived in Sweden and was a Swedish Nurse. Now in that film that film starts with these movie makers going home to Harry Järv, where he started to show real pictures from that war and he started to talk about what really happened. But what is the Most amazing thing is that Harry Järv was a neighbor of mine in Stockholm all the way to when he died in 2009. So I met and talked with him on several occasions, before he died. He lived in that apartment with that Swedish wife of his and she ended up living for some about 4 to 5 years extra I was so lucky to find many books and magazines that was own by Harry. I have a book about different human races, where a Swedish doctor had taken photos of all kind of people living in Sweden. It was so racist, because all Swedish people was mostly from a pure and strong race, and they even had some Iranian men that lived in Stockholm but they was called "thiefs and low value people". This is also the Book and that survey of where this doctor put people in different classes according to what race you where from is actually what inspired Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler with their races that's set into classes. They Jews in tahto book where always seen as lower and dumber, because they had a lower forehead than the pure Arian Sweds. This book that was his and I later picket up from a trash bin is written in 1922, and it is a very controversial book today, but not when it was written. Sweden was the leading Nation where they took race very seriously.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that interesting story mate. If I remember correctly we spoke on the comments on a previous video? Good to hear though and a great piece of history you were able to involve in your own life.
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions We sure did spoke earlier as well 😁👍
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Cool mate - thanks for confirming - I thought I recognised you alright. Have a good day1
@kraatarin8226
@kraatarin8226 Ай бұрын
30:23 No subtitles, the poor man is screaming for his mother, "äiti"
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for filling that in mate - I appreciate it!
@user-ox2dk9hn1l
@user-ox2dk9hn1l Ай бұрын
32:23 yes it really happent to Juho Kärkkäinen (10.5.1898 - 27.8.1983)
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
That's amazing - I honestly though it had to be fiction but seemingly not. Do you have any of the details of the real event? Thanks for watching by the way.
@user-ox2dk9hn1l
@user-ox2dk9hn1l Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions Corpral Juho Kärkkäinen was up north 5-6 km to Koroli 10.7.1941 just beginning of continuation war where he got hit by machine gun fire while crossing stream and he fell to water. steam was so bad that he was carried away and searcparty dint find him. he was hit by legs but no broken bones so he cud move and came bact to camp. sorry my bad english
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Wow - thanks for sharing that mate and your English is fine and a lot better then my Finnish so I appreciate you for making that effort to tell me the story. Enjoy your weekend! Cheers.
@Mahtimeisseli
@Mahtimeisseli Ай бұрын
​@@JTRetroReactions if I remember correctly, the guy got hit 8 times by a rifle-caliber machine gun. Falling in the stream also might be the reason that saved his life, because the water was so cold, that it probably contracted his blood veins. It took him 9 hours to crawl back to the friendly lines. The IRL operation the book and movie represent was made by two platoons from the Light Detachment 2, lead by lieutenant Perttuli. Those 2 platoons went around Lieksajärvi to a recon mission to see if there were any Soviet soldiers there. Many of the things shown in the movie really happened; the repairing of the bridge, dropping the bicycle in the river, sending the fumbled guy back (the guy didn't get killed though). Soviet soldiers were even watching Finns repair the bridge from about 100 meters away, but they were too afraid to shoot. Later, after the serious wounding of Kärkkäinen happened, the unit got some reinforcements. Now after growing about a company sized it attacked to the rear of the Soviet troops defending the Virta strait and pushed through them to reach friendly lines. But unlike in the movie, they were immediately put back in action to attack the Soviet forces the just pushed through.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for all of that background mate - that is really interesting to read and yes you're right about the Cold water - medics figured out in the Vietnam War that soliders left wounded on the field overnight had better survival rates and it was exactly for the reason you described, the cold stopped or seriously slowed the blood flow
@pekkakarppinen1608
@pekkakarppinen1608 Ай бұрын
This movie is shot mostly in my home area in Kainuu, Finland. Most of the places are quite familiar to me. The crew actually borrowed our firm's Case tractor to adjust the "Last Supper" view in the barn. The lake there is "Iijärvi". Very good for fishing "Kuha" or "Zander" or "Walleye", if you please. Despite some naysayers and some romantic substance, this is a decent war movie. If l remember correct, it was a blockbuster in Finland 1998. He incompetencity of leaders in war. Americans (obviously 😅) never had it, but we are not shy with it. It happens, always and everywhere. ⛄👍
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
@pekkakarppinen1608 Thanks for watching the video and for sharing that information about the filming location which was interesting to read. Whilst I enjoyed the movie, I just felt it couldn't make up it's mind what it wanted to be and suffered for that.
@MarkusLaaksonen-uw5lr
@MarkusLaaksonen-uw5lr Ай бұрын
You seem to be the only reactionary who can get Finnish subtitles. It's good, my English is pretty bad. I understand the general outline of what is being said, but that's about it
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching the video and for recognizing I do subtitles. I create them in 73 languages for everyone of my videos exactly for people like you and your the first person to say 👍. So I thank you my friend as it takes a lot of work to do those subtitles and to get thanked by even one person makes it worthwhile! Have a good day
@TheApilas
@TheApilas Ай бұрын
The open ground they were passing over along planks was a bog, a very common thing in the forests in Finland and Karelia so it´s limited routes you can pass
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
I replied to this but for some reason it didn't appear. I was just saying that regardless, they still could have swam across the river during nightfall. I still think it was a dangerous and unnecessary call to cross bunched up like that in broad daylight knowing there were Partisans around.
@Gibbetoo
@Gibbetoo Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions this movie isn't very realistic.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate for watching the video and agreed. I think to be honest that is what potentially disappointed me the most, given that the novel was written by an ex-soldier but that's also why I asked did this movie actually reflect the book as I did read that it diverged significantly from the source material and I don't know if that was for better or for worse.
@kraatarin8226
@kraatarin8226 Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions The bogs in finland and russia are the kind that you can't cross well by walking or by swimming - too thick to swim or paddle, too lush(? don't know the right word) to cross without sinking to the bog waist deep. Those narrow wooden planks are placed at the narrowest point of the bog to cross. The platoon knew they might be walking to an ambush, but it was that, or going around the bog, tens and tens or more kilometers around EDIT: I was talking about the earlier scene in the bog, you might be talking about the just next scene by the river, nevermind me then....
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Fair enough mate - I was making the comment in relation to the Bridge at the river where they swam into the river to get the plank. Thanks
@kraatarin8226
@kraatarin8226 Ай бұрын
As the lietunant taking point: He's feeling suicidal (and of course, being bad commander, you're right)
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching mate and yes you're right but what he was not entitled to do was take that death wish out on his men which he was. I just think in real life the NCOs would have removed him one way or another.
@Timonen76
@Timonen76 Ай бұрын
These Light Detachments had no indirect fire and they used bicycles, so they were more mobile than regular infantry.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
True but German troops often carried MGs and light mortars on their bikes. Same with Japanese but in fairness it could have been a lack of equipment or the fact they were on 'Ambush' technically.
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia Ай бұрын
I did my military service at the Finnish Border Guard Jaegers, and our job was to go deep behind the eneolines for reconnaissance. We was to try to not be seen not to open fire and obviously if a chance to take a prisoner would turn up and it would be an easy taste, we would have been able to take prisoners. But we had to live behind the lines for many days and just like in WW2 for some Finnish Border jaegers units even up to a couple of months, if needed. But we must have in mind that back then, and even during my service in the late 80:s and early 90:s we in the Finnish military could basically decide much of what we must do by ourselves. Finnish military was totally the opposite to what the Soviet military was based on. We where spurred to be very independent and to make important decisions by ourselves. It was obviously very important for us all (I was a sergeant /leader of a group of 12 men) that everyone knew exactly what we was to to and why and if some changes had to be made, that it was as important for me to know than every single of my Jaegers to know. Finnish troops where famous of being able to complete the task that they was set up to do, even if their commander was taken out before it was done.... Being independent is what we free men want to be and thats why Russia is in such a hard place today... Their military have always been dempended d that hierarchy, where there is only a couple of officers thats knows the whole truth and the task of what and why
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your military service with me and respect to you for it! Similar set up we have over here. We are trained to operate independently as well and always have been. It goes back to our War of Independence where Units operated independently, they were called flying columns and were formed based on hit and run tactics given the force difference between us and the British. We also operated on a pyramid command structure so that if you were captured you could only give information on the men in your unit and one, maybe two officers above you and that was it. Everything was compartmentalized. I will be doing a reaction soon to Michael Collins, the Movie. If you haven't heard of him, he basically led the Irish War of Independence, and invented modern Guerilla warfare. Mao Tse Tung named his communist rebellion after him and the Israelis in their Six Day War named their operation after him as one of the Israeli leaders was an Irish Citizen who had served with Michael Collins. Unfortunately he was assaninated in our Civil War afterwards. Most of my own service was spent in South Lebanon stuck between Hezbollah, the Israelis and the various Lebanese groups allied with either side.
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions Interesting, I didn't know about Collins 😳. Whats that's movie's name and is it an older movie? I saw a documentary about the War of independence in Ireland and in that documentary they said that many Finnish immigrants had joined that war as well. Finns had had their own war of independence against Russian Red Bolsheviks a couple of years earlier and these Finns could therefore feel sympathy for their Irish friends fight against tyranny. Ialso know that there where set up thousands of Finnish troops which where sent To Estonia, to fight for their Independence against the Bolsheviks as well. These men where most made of men from the "Finnish Jaeger Movement" that had been secretly in Germany to get an military education. It's quite amazing if you think that we/well I do think that the world is more united because of media and be owe travel so much more today. The you see stuff like this and think that maybe people where united way earlier than that. I hope you understand that my questions and what I'm saying in my comments can sound like I not been listening to what you are saying. But it's because I stop the videos and start writing, and often you Will obviously give me the answer later on when I let the video continue. Are you in the reserve as well and for how long? Would you also enlist in the Military again if you wouldn't need to join the ranks again? Sometimes it's frustrating for us that have borders with a country like Russia and when western countries do not seem to understand what the Russians is all about. Americans seem to think that Putin is and was always harmless and will never be a threat to it's neighboring countries. I can't stand that Quanon moment in US that almost seem to be allied with Putin and who say that Zelenskij is always whining for more money and that he sure is an Nazi leader. I feel 100% for the Ukrainian people and would not whine if our government would have to let us pay even more tax only so our country could buy in new military material so the older one can be sent to Ukraine. It's maybe the same feeling that the Finns had before as well, when they joined the ranks of other countries fight for independence. It's like when my Finnish elderly relatives always said to never trust the Soviets nor the Russians. That was something they said many times and even the day when the collapse of Soviet Union was a fact. They where so correct, when many of them believed that Russia will eventually feel themselves humiliated and will no longer accept the fact that Soviet Union collapsed. They also said to have in mind that Russian people aren't like we and they are difficult to understan as people. We western people have fought for our freedom and died for our freedom, but the Russians will neodo so. They seemed to be OK to live as a slave under Kreml and that they rather go die in some war, that most of them really don't think is right. They are like robots. Almost a racistic claim, but they sure have proven it to be totally right claim if you ask me. I personally hope that Poland would be the next military might, because they are the one that in my mind knows what Russia, Russian people and Kreml is and have always been about 🙏.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply but I always try and take Sunday off to be with Family. The Movie name is 'Michael Collins' and it's from the 1990s starring Liam Neeson as the man himself, with Julia Roberts as his love interest. It's okay for a Hollywood production but it's a bit too much Hollywood. No worries about the comments mate! I appreciate anyone who makes the effort to reach out to me! I was in the reserves when I was young 16 to 18 and managed to get to be an extra in both Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan which were shot in Ireland and used the Irish Army reserves and regulars for the Troops. After 18 I moved into the regulars. Ireland only has a volunteer army so no conscription here so it was a choice. I mainly did UNIFIL tours and some other stuff I can't talk about. Retired a long time ago due to a medical discharge from injuries received. If you notice on my videos I talk out of one side of my mouth as I got nerve damage from a shell. So no longer in the reserves etc. and haven't been for a long time as I'm not physically able. I actually had to retire completely last year as I need a knee replacement but they can't do the operation due to the damage in my knee again from injuries but cest la vie - that's why I started doing YT as I needed something to occupy my time and hopefully earn a little cash. One thing I have learned from doing these reactions to Finnish Movies is how similar the histories of Ireland and Finland are - both small Countries that were attempted to be dominated by larger neighbours but managed to hold on and fight determinedly to gain their freedom. If I remember rightly the ties between the Irish and Finnish Independence Movements go all the way back to the 1700s. Plus today we are in the same EU Nordic Battle Group which is cool. Yeah Russia mate - at least our neighbour has 'matured' over the last 100 years but your neighbour seems to still be acting like it's the 17th Century. I fully support Ukraine and wish the west would do more. Russia needs to take a good beating there to ensure it stays in it's lane from now on but Politicians never ever make smart military decisions!
@matkahenkilo8554
@matkahenkilo8554 Ай бұрын
I am not an expert on farming, though I grew up on the coutryside. Apart from some regions in the southwestern part of finland the soil did not lend itself readily for farming. Before modern farming techniques agriculture was mostly "slash and burn" farming. Where trees were cut down and burned for fields, this made the soil yield crops for a few years. After which more ground had to be cleared for new firld and the old fields returned to woods. There is a good video about forest finns in which slash and burn agriculture is mentioned.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Cool - thanks mate for sharing that information. As I mentioned, not really related to the video but something I was just personally interested in. Could you share the video link by any chance? I may just do a reaction to it. Cheers.
@matkahenkilo8554
@matkahenkilo8554 Ай бұрын
Here is the title for the video. I'll post the link in seperate comment, maybe one of them gets trough :D The Finn Forest - a film about people and places in northern Värmland. I recall this had a good bit of information on the area of forest finns i n Sweden (beloved neighbour) and of their descentants. Not sure if it had a lot about farming techniques, at first glance atleast. Might be I remember incorrectly or mixed something up. But I remember that this was a good watch.
@matkahenkilo8554
@matkahenkilo8554 Ай бұрын
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@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Cool mate - thanks for doing that - I really appreciate it!
@matkahenkilo8554
@matkahenkilo8554 Ай бұрын
Just watched that again. It had no mention on slash and burn, I remembered that incorrectly. But though it is based in sweden it does offer some insight on how small homesteading in finland looked liked up untill the 1950's And also the video does have a calm and relaxing tone to it.
@WhiskyandBacon
@WhiskyandBacon Ай бұрын
Good reaction as always👍I always loved this movie.I agree this is perhaps not the best Finnish war movie.But as a historical drama I think its exellent.The lads in the movie belongs to the Finnish 14 Division,who captured Rukajärvi in September 1941.Their commander General Erkki Raapaana was a veteran from the 27 Jäger Battalion.3000 Finnish volunteers who fought in the Imperial German Army 1915-18.He was known as the "Wilderness General" and was a typical old school bad ass.Rukajärvi is located 360 km north of Petrozavodsk.I am sure you remember that city from the Uknown Soldier movie.Could you please react to a movie called Lupaus (the promise in English) from 2005? Its about the Lotta Svärd movement.Those women made an incredible effort during WW2.I am Swedish.But Finland in WW2 have always been my biggest interest.My grandmother had a younger brother hwo went to Finland as a volunteer.He belonged to Heavy Artillery Section 4.Many artillery units in the Finnish Army were Swedish speaking during WW2.Best Greetings from the West Coast of Sverige!🍻🇸🇪🇫🇮🇮🇪
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Hey mate - thanks for watching as always as well and I appreciate the kind comments and the further historical background - it is always interesting to read and get further context. Sure I will add that movie to the reaction list - only think is I have to see if I can get a english Sub version - it can be hard with some Finnish Movies but i will do my best. Give me some time though - I'm running 3 channels now so it takes time to get videos out for them all but leave it with me. Have a good weekend. Cheers.
@WhiskyandBacon
@WhiskyandBacon 28 күн бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions Thanks mate,a good weekend to you to!🍺
@perkeletto640
@perkeletto640 Ай бұрын
I don't think Unknown Soldier did mistakes, He was WW2 veteran (wrote the book shortly after the war), Rokka is based of his friend :). At 1944 retreat phase things werent really organized and morale was low, finnish army was about to break. A lot of stuff didn't go by the book
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. The circumstances and there being errors in military tactics towards the end doesn't make them not mistakes, it just explains the mistakes in my opinion. Still a great movie and story though! I really loved this one.
@ralepej
@ralepej 6 күн бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions Actually in Unknown Soldier (2017) movie that scene is different than in book. In book there is a soldiers on the other bank of river who gives a fire support to these who are coming over.
@finnishculturalchannel
@finnishculturalchannel Ай бұрын
The Rukajärvi Road does exist and the battle took place-you can find info on it on the WWW-but you're watching a fictional movie. Criticizing fictional characters like they are real life persons is always absurd. Everyone should see themselves shouting at the TV when watching fiction. Although the movie is fictional, some events in it are based on real war events. E.g. that bridge ambush scene indeed happened. The wounded soldier's real name was Juho Kärkkäinen. Although he had bullet holes in him plenty to kill him, he survived, lived to an age of 85 and died in 1983. How accurate the event was on the film, is of course another thing, but it goes to show that sometimes real life is more unbelievable than fiction: "A true story of Kärkkäinen - Rukajärven tie". During the war the soldiers risked their lives to get the dead back home. It was a task of honor. There's people searching them still on the Russian side of the border and shipping them to Finland. It's difficult to find actors of young age for realism, whom the theater audiences will pay to see. That's real life situation. On the other hand, E.g. the real life Kärkkäinen was in his 40s in 1941. Considering some of the soldiers young age and war situations, how rational can you expect them to behave? How leery will you be about every swamp, bush and house when you encounter them everywhere days in days out? Probably won't cover much distance, if you do. And the movie made out of it either might not have that many scenes in it or that much drama or then it would last for 12 hours. Probably wouldn't see theaters or even be a video release. Finland going to war with the Soviet Union wasn't considered smart. There was an US plan (Operation Alaska) to evacuate the Finnish population to Alaska. How smart does that sound? There are White Nights in the Nordics during summers and Nightless Nights in the North. You can sit on the riverbank till autumn waiting for it to get dark. And how much do the veterans of previous wars care and take orders? This documentary touches the subject and the best part of it is that it's about historical events: "Törni - Sotilaan tarina (A Soldier's Story) English Subtitles". And there's even a documentary to which making he took part: "Phantom Fighters (Green Berets) in Color with Larry Thorne (Lauri Törni)".
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Firstly thanks for watching the video. Secondly, you're misunderstanding my criticism - I'm not criticisng a fictional character, I'm criticising a character that was developed by real people and the author I believe was a solider in the War. That means they should know a lot better. However, maybe this is not what the author created, hence why I asked the question does the movie deviate significantly from the book, as any author who is writing from experience should no better than this unless of course, he was portraying a deliberate theme which is not obvious from the movie. Also there is a whole industry based on Film criticism and most of it based on fictional movies, so I believe you are not correct in your viewpoint. I was 19 in my first overseas mission as well and that is why you need experienced officers and NCOs and at the very start of the movie it clearly states they were all veterans of the Winter War so not young and inexperienced as you portray so again I think your criticism is misguided on this element. Thanks for sharing the names of those documentaries. I will look into it and see if I can do a reaction to them. Cheers.
@harrilaamanen5910
@harrilaamanen5910 Ай бұрын
The film is based on an interview with a farmer. Both to the interviews conducted by the author Antti Tuuri and to the interviews conducted by the Rukajärvi history committee. Of course, there is a lot of fiction in the film, but it is based on facts.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Interesting to hear - thanks for sharing mate!
@finnishculturalchannel
@finnishculturalchannel Ай бұрын
​@@JTRetroReactions The author of the book was born in 1944. He based his book on historical studies and interviews. The movie is loosely based on the book, but it's not the book, and both are works of fiction, not historical documentations. That's why Rambo doesn't need any experienced officers and NCOs, whether you find it realistic or not. Watching and analyzing Mickey Mouse steering a steam boat to learn how an actual steam boat is steered seems a bit strange to me. Criticizing the animation and it's creators for the lack of realism seems even more strange. Rambo as a character was developed by real people, but probably not to show what happens to a person, if he jumps from a high cliff and falls through a pine tree. Not that there probably isn't some real life doctor out there, who tells just that using Rambo as the basis for his lecture and criticizes an action movie for the lack of realism like he's viewing a medical journal. Even if those people who created Rambo as a character would be experts in warfare, that shouldn't limit their right to create whatever type of fictional characters they want. You placing yourself to 1941 Finland and telling how you'd do things for sake of realism sounds like science fiction to me, If we're being realistic about it. Certainly the whole concept of time traveling and the faith of your time machine would occupy your mind a bit and the language barrier too would cause you some problems? No offense intended. You might have given some serious thoughts on some of your life choices too considering that you could have just as well been at the Hotel del Coronado in 1958 on the set of 'Some Like It Hot' and met Marilyn Monroe. Would be interesting to see you react to those documentaries about Törni/Thorne and other people on those documentaries. They are real life persons having gone through real life events.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
I appreciate your opinion and for elaborating on it but let's agree to disagree. Most fictional authors and writers do extensive research to make sure that what they are portraying at least sounds plausible when they create their fictional set up. Either the author or the script writers failed miserably on that front and therefore are entitled and in fact even deserve to be criticised for it as it is lazy not to put in the ground work. I would be happy to react to those documentaries. Do you happen to know if they are on youtube with English Subs or where else I may source them?
@MarkusLaaksonen-uw5lr
@MarkusLaaksonen-uw5lr Ай бұрын
In quite a few movies, it's the same as if there were no shrapnel in the grenades. It can explode almost a meter away and nothing happens to the man🙄
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and very true mate. I used to see young recruits coming into the army in later years thinking it was all like Call of Duty. No joke! Several of them said it to me. I took them on a tour of some the graves of Irish Soldiers lost in South Lebanon and warned them if they kept that mindset to get ready to join them
@roscoeshreder875
@roscoeshreder875 Ай бұрын
As a Finn, I always thought that the lieutenent is a horrible person making the movie unrelatable.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thank you! I was worried that I would upset a lot of people with my reaction in case the movie was some sort of national treasure but I had to call it as I saw it and luckily just like you and me, most people seem to agree. As I mention at the end of the video, the Director and/or script writers couldn't seem to make up their minds what they wanted this movie to be so we ended up with a bit of a mess.
@lokki874
@lokki874 Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions As foreign you miss the spot. During ww2 Finland was cruel place and there was death penalty for cowardice. When finns felt back 1944 Mannerheim ordered block units to shoot those who fall back. Also there is report about artillery fire to position where was white flag on the other side of river. Mans did not know how to swim and wanted surrender. General Ehrnrooth ordered artillery there and wiped that own unit off. Later General Adolf Ehrnrooth was awarded with Mannerheim cross when he defended position with his regiment against 3 soviet division added with tank unit. That was attitude in finnish army
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment but I honestly don't see how I miss the spot in this movie which was about a Lieutenant who was so unlikeable in the movie as a character as he was making bad decisions all over the place and getting his men killed. I don't see how any context justifies that to be fair.
@someguyfromfinland4239
@someguyfromfinland4239 Ай бұрын
Hey i really like your videos and reactions. I know you have already watched the unknown soldier from 2017, but i think you should react to the original 1955 movie and compare them. The special thing about that movie is that almost all of the actors were actual veterans of the war they were portraying. It also uses alot of footage from the actual war.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate for watching the video and for your very kind comments. It makes up for a lot of the negative and often uncalled for comments I get on here - like you talk too much despite me explaining why in the pinned comments - anyways, yes I would love to react to it but I struggled to get a copy with english Subtitles before so that maybe my barrier but I'll check again. I try to buy the DVDs where possible to protect from piracy allegations. Have a great weekend!
@someguyfromfinland4239
@someguyfromfinland4239 Ай бұрын
I found the DVD for the 1955 film with english subtitles from amazon and eBay ​@@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate - would you mind sharing the link - jaysretroreactions@gmail.com - if you don't have time no worries, I'll track it down. Cheers.
@Hienohomma2
@Hienohomma2 Ай бұрын
They are still married.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Good to hear mate and thanks for letting me and for watching the video as well. Enjoy the rest of your weekend
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi Ай бұрын
31:20 - it was an order by highest grade of military, from mannerheim, or at least it was our mentalitethy (or how to say it...) that nobody is going to be left behind, alive or dead. and that actually was followed a lot. i mean. they were only left behind if they really was overrun or something. otherwise wounded or dead bodies always returned to home!
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate - I think that is the case in the majority of Western Armies anyways but there is a rule of thumb - don't risk more lives for one that is already lost and that simple rule wasn't followed here. He was ordering the retrieval whilst the battle is ongoing which is poor from an Officer. It's not like the body was going anywhere and he was already responsible for the Guys death or getting shot should I say so why make it worse. They could have come back at night when things were quieter for the Body.
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions that is very true too :D dont know exactly how and i think there is some variance about how they did recover the bodies back to our side. but still, i think it is truly amazing
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate - it's actually very important psychologically as well for Soldiers to do this. It allows the final goodbye. It also assures soldiers that they won't be left behind and forgotten which is also very important for mindset.
@TheApilas
@TheApilas Ай бұрын
Unknown Soldier is not written by the author o Rukajärven Tie (Ambush), Unknown Soldier was written by Väinö Linna and Ambush was written by Antti Tuuri. Antti Tuuri is the written of the Winterwar/Talvisota novell that was the base for the movie Winterwar/Talvisota
@TheApilas
@TheApilas Ай бұрын
And agree on the many tactical mistakes throughout the movie.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
For some reason all of my replies are not appearing. Thanks for the correction mate - I guess my knowledge of Finnish Literature is still not where it should be :) Is the book worth reading?
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate. I was thinking a lot of Finnish People may have been offended by me calling it out but they were so bad in so many places. The guy should have had his command removed by his NCOs. There's a point where loyalty has to go.
@TheApilas
@TheApilas Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions Yes the books are worth reading
@TheApilas
@TheApilas Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions Yes his head was not were it should be. He was to distracted emotionally about his fiancé to function properly.
@frog_bricks
@frog_bricks Ай бұрын
The river in the movie reminds me of my great grandfathers experience in ww2 (he was in an karelian river inside a boat with other soldiers and then a soviet bomber plane dropped a bomb on them but he somehow survived) anyways good video
@frog_bricks
@frog_bricks Ай бұрын
Also his cousin was the commander of finnish jaegers in ww1 and ww2 and also the leader of the finnish army for a while
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Wow - impressive mate! It must be great to have such a distinguished family member.
@iirokarimo4565
@iirokarimo4565 Ай бұрын
17.40 not 100% sure but i think most of karelians left Karelia after winter war. If not everyone.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and that's what I thought but the dead grandma appeared to be Karelian as did the group whose son was shot but I don't know
@limbardo9169
@limbardo9169 Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions The Finnish Karelian population in the Karelian isthmus was evacuated into Finland in its entirety at the end of the Winter War when their lands were ceded to the Soviet Union. However, in the film the platoon crosses the border into Eastern Karelia, which had been part of the Soviet Union already before the Winter War. The original population of the Eastern Karelia had been under Russian rule for centuries and apart from the similarity of the language were not culturally entirely Finnish.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate - that explains a lot as I was wondering why the encounters between the Finnish Troops and the Villagers seemed so tense and stand off-ish. That explains it to be honest so cheers for that! Thanks for also watching the video - much appreciated!
@iirokarimo4565
@iirokarimo4565 Ай бұрын
9.30 plz rethink about "hiding in trees" 😅 Have you ever seen soldier in a tree? Damn that would b pretty scary place against russian artillery and shitloads of everything. Just saying. Finnish snipers played often "shoot and scoot" style to cause enough attrition to enemy to slow em down.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Totally disagree and here's why. There initial orders were to scout and observe. Then move to join divisions attack. The tree suggestion was for the scouting and observing and is a great place to do it properly camouflaged given the height. You're right that it is not a place for combat but that's not what I was suggesting it for
@pelaajajm5698
@pelaajajm5698 Ай бұрын
this movie is influenced by true storys, but in general this movie is product of total fiction. lot in same way as Save private Rayan, yes there was beach landing in Normandy, yes some o these solders are based/ influsend by real people. I remember reading in article many years ago that director wanted to make movie more "Hollywood like" which came at vost of sounding tacktics and logical thinking for characters (specially Lieutenant Perkule) for sake of drama, Pyro effects are ok in my eyes as they get the job done for the budget of movie had, its was about 12 600 000 finnish marks in 1999 2.1mil euros accounting inflation it is 3.4 mil Euro and there were actors who I am sure took pretty good paychecks at the time. Over all this movie has good ideas that were just left half backed in the end, be it too small budget (which I think is a factor) and attempting to do something totally new in finnish move making in scale. It is movie that is hearth warming when in right mind set and I just love how suomi KP sounds like in this movie, 6-7/10 (includes nostalgia factor) Edit: I recommend Tali ihantala, its lot better war movie in my opinion based more on facts, also non finnish military film that I assume you have seen, but if not, Bridge German movie.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and for the background and context to the movie provided in the comment. If you made it to the end of my video, I concluded by saying the main problem with the movie is that it just couldn't make up it's mind what it wanted to be - a love story or a war story. Making the Lieutenant so unlikely as well was a bad mistake. I guess we were meant to sympathise with him but it's hard to sympathise with someone who deliberately sent one man to death and the other to get severely wounded. If felt like the movie was rushed. Anyways just my thoughts. Tali ihantala is actually my next Finnish War movie to be released - so in about 2 or 3 weeks. If you have any other recommendations let me know. Cheers
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi Ай бұрын
about groving stuff... most of us do not need to grow food because forests are full of blueberries and mushrooms in general, also you can sell them taxfree unless its not grown wild. i mean if you grow stuff at home and sell it, you need to pay taxes, but if you pick mushrooms or berries you can sell them basically anywhere and taxfree, my neighbour got 20 000€ for his mushroom when he sold all that 25 liters of those mushrooms to asian kitchen lol
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Interesting and a nice side business :) I was just wondering about the soil though from a farmers perspective - as I mentioned in the commentary - not really relevant but it just interested me as a question. Thanks
@mtlb2674
@mtlb2674 21 күн бұрын
Yes, the Finnish soil is acidic making it hard to grow stuff.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and for answering my question mate. Much appreciated!
@mtlb2674
@mtlb2674 20 күн бұрын
By the way, if you are wondering why the lieutenant has yellow collar batches instead of more normal green that's because he is a cavalry officer, not infantry whose colour is green.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions 11 күн бұрын
Again, thanks mate - I wouldn't have known that unless you told me so cheers!
@tontsa77
@tontsa77 Ай бұрын
In about 15min you say that you are confused about the orders that unit haves. It have been some time since I watched this, but I think the lieutenant is going rogue and inventing hes own orders due to grief after hearing the news about hes fiance.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching the video mate. Yes that's what I thought at the end. At first I thought he was just keeping the orders from the men in case they got captured but even in that situation you would tell your senior NCO in case you got incapacitated so the mission could carry on so by the end, I agree he was just rogue or else the writers of the script just screwed up!
@niuho2052
@niuho2052 Ай бұрын
NCO's have small stripes on their shoulders.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and yes a couple of people have explained that to me since. Again not something I would have known beforehand plus it's the kind of small detail you miss watching on a laptop screen which I have to use for these reactions
@MikaOjaniemi
@MikaOjaniemi Ай бұрын
Phhs is Copyright Suomi suomalainen gun gal 9mm. Officer handgun is Lahti 9mm
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate and yes I learned that on The Unknown Solider reaction. The pistol I wasn't familiar with so thanks for filling in that gap in knowledge for me.
@drunkenfinnpeltsi5968
@drunkenfinnpeltsi5968 Ай бұрын
Hey! It's not Perkili. It's PERKELE! 🇫🇮🤘🏻
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Yeah yeah - pronounce this Irish phrase - Nil tu ach Brom an Droilin!
@jm-holm
@jm-holm Ай бұрын
Yeah I've always thought this is the worst of the Finnish war movies, never understood why people like it. It has some meme scenes but that's about it. You've already seen the unquestionably best ones in the unknown soldier followed by Talvisota. Some will argue you have to watch the 1955 version of the unknown soldier and that it's far superior, but really it's just old fashioned with a lot of niche Finnish culture and expressions that no foreigner could ever understand. Even most modern day Finns can't keep up with it at all times. However there are movies worth watching that are better than Rukajärven tie despite not being near the top 2.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching the video mate. I'm glad to see that someone else agrees with the flaws in this movie. It's still watchable but there is a lot of questionable decisions about the way the film goes about it's story. If you have any suggestions for me, please let me know.
@jm-holm
@jm-holm Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions I do have two suggestions at least. First is "Framom främsta linjen", "Beyond the front line" from 2004. It's based on books written by a legendary leader and patrolman so it's following the real events and people more closely than any of the other movies. It also shows a very different part of the war since it's mostly patrolling and raiding during the static part of the continuation war, showing a different part of the warfare than the other movies and in the end it gets to the first of the critical defensive battles of 1944. It's also special because it follows infantry regiment 61, consisting entirely of Swedish speaking Finns. The negatives of this movie are that while the combat is really good, after many combat scenes they just stand around in a clump making you wonder how the hell they can be so sure there's not a mortar grenade dropping down on them or some incoming fire from some enemy they've missed which I find slightly disturbing. While the main characters are really well acted, some of the side-characters are a little less so, mainly because of the very small population the actors can be drawn from as they represent individuals from small rural areas with their own distinct dialects so there may only be a few hundred individuals of the right age to give the role to. Second is "Tali-Ihantala 1944". The previous movie ends (timeline wise) as this one starts so they follow each other quite well even though they are about completely different troops and battles. This one is about the largest defensive battle and the largest battle in the history of the Nordic countries. It's one of the more criticized Finnish war movies (although I still think it's significantly better than Rukajärven tie). If I have to criticize it, it has some bad CGI in some parts, some meh acting scenes and a few weird combat scenes for sure. It does have the best (most realistic) tank combat I have seen in any war movie of any origin though and the tanks used are authentic ones kept in running condition by the Finnish armored museum. KV-1, T-34-85 and STUGs.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate I really appreciate that and all the details along with it! Tali-Ihantala 1944 is actually my next planned Finnish movie reaction. Beyond the Front line, I will try and hunt down and English Subtitled Version that I can react too. Have a great weekend!
@timoterava7108
@timoterava7108 Ай бұрын
"Talvisota" is by far the best Finnish war movie. "Tuntematon Sotilas" 3rd is technically a good film, but it is still based on a novel by a notorious leftist - and it unfortunately shows. "Tuntematon Sotilas" 1st is the best one, because it is the furthest away from the spirit of the original novel. "Etulinjan Edessä" is an ok film, but it smells too much of boosting the reputation of the Swedish-speaking Finns - which did not especially shine in the Winter and Continuation Wars ("The Rowing Club of Munsala" etc...). "Tali-Ihantala 1944" is not really an ordinary movie, but a docudrama. It doesn't have a proper story - apart from the actual battle events. It is however historically very accurate - apart from the opening texts. The StuG III (actually Stu-40) and the T-34-85 are real things - the KV-1 however is not.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks Timo. To be honest the great thing about film making as an art is that everyone can see the same thing and take a different viewpoint or meaning on them. As an outsider, my favourite was The Unknown Soldier of the 3 I've watched but Talvisota was a close second. Perhaps the modernity of The Unknown Soldier swung it for but I also liked the Characters better overall. Just my opinion of course.
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia Ай бұрын
I was so happy that you recognized Jonny Weissmuller 😂, our Tarzan.... It's crazy that we are that old mate 😅..... We actually have actors that made movies in BLACK AND WHITE man!!!! 😮 👌
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
I know mate - time flies as they say but I still like being the age I am. LIfe hardens you up so you are at this age a lot tougher mentally and emotionally and have a lot more wisdom so I prefer it. Tarzan with Jonny was played every Saturday when I was a kid. I have fond memories of him and his movie with Cheetah and his laughs - good times!
@jaskapenttila7644
@jaskapenttila7644 Ай бұрын
You can see the stripes of the NCO's on their shoulders.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Firstly thanks for watching the video and secondly I must have missed that - the disadvantage of watching on a small laptop screen when recording these reactions.
@jaskapenttila7644
@jaskapenttila7644 Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions Yeah its no problem man. I'm pretty sure its originally a german thing that the Finnish Army inherited from their service in the Imperial German Army during the jäger movement. The Jäger Movement is something that if you're interested in the history of Finland you should read on since the independence movement of Finland is connected to the Jäger Movement.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Interesting piece of history - thanks for sharing mate! Have a good weekend!
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi Ай бұрын
i really like this movie but i want to like it more.. i mean the sound effects on some scenes makes it feel like kinda cheap... otherwise its great movie
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate - if you end up watching the full video, you will see that I end up being critical of the movie in a lot of aspects. Not only it's failure to decide whether it was a love story or a war movie but particularly on the special effects which were not good in the battle scenes. Not sure if they had a limited budget or not
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions im still watching it :D but i see it already :)
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi Ай бұрын
i mean, i can see now stuff that i didnt realize before. like how bad the nco/leader of that group is
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Sorry mate if you disagree with me as I know you said you like the movie and I did as well but it could have been so much better in my opinion.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate - I appreciate you saying that! Because I have to comment so much because of the stupid EU laws, I at least try and make it somewhat insightful or interesting - but as always my views are just what I see at the time and I can often miss stuff too.
@polhokustaa4989
@polhokustaa4989 Ай бұрын
This movie has a nice vibe and tone to it, but I agree, it has a lot of weird tactical decisions made :D Very many war movies suffer from this and I cannot undestand why.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching the video mate - much appreciated as always. I agree with you as you probably have seen from my reaction. The Director tried to be too many things at once and ended up being all over the place as a result I think. If, without having read the novel, I was to guess, I would say the couple represented Finland, the fiance being attacked and assaulted being the invasion element and the Lieutenant meant to be the brave resistance but yeah he ended up just coming across as a d**k who should have been relieved of command one way or another and we didn't get to see any of the ordeal of the Lady which whilst traumatic to put on screen, if my guess is right on the theme he was aiming for, then it would have uplifted the whole film.
@Sychedelik
@Sychedelik Ай бұрын
first🤓👆
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
@@Sychedelik Thanks mate
@Erholts
@Erholts Ай бұрын
This is definately the worst finnish war movie ever made.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching the video mate. I have only see three so my base is quite small to judge from but yes it ranked the lowest out of those three I have watched.
@timoterava7108
@timoterava7108 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately there are worse ones, made in the 1970's and 1980's...
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks Timo for watching and for the comment as always! Were they bad due to budget and film making techniques of the time or just poor storylines so nothing could have saved them?
@timoterava7108
@timoterava7108 Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions When they were made, the society of Finland was in general - or at least publicly - quite leftist. It can also be seen in films made in those decades. Too much "soviet understanding" and excessive/unjustified self-criticism.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for that context Timo - it helps me understand better, particularly if/when I get around to reacting to any of them
@redbaron6569
@redbaron6569 Ай бұрын
Absolutely butchered the title 😭🙏
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
@@redbaron6569 Fair enough mate. But I'm sure you would struggle with Irish as well. Pronounce this name for me Caoimhe.
@KROB3LO
@KROB3LO Ай бұрын
This movie is so lame.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. It's seems to be a marmite movie, some love it and some definitely hate it
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia Ай бұрын
I have this Declaration of war in my KZbin side
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Cool mate - just gave you a sub and I'll check out some of your videos later tonight. Cheers.
@ANJING_SITUMORANG
@ANJING_SITUMORANG Ай бұрын
19:00 is swamp that cause limitations for travel.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Fair enough mate - thanks
@formatique_arschloch
@formatique_arschloch Ай бұрын
Does this thing hear my thoughts? Just hours ago, I remembered that hey, how are you and that I haven't got any recommendations of you in months. And now I got this recommendation. I'm either paranoid or this is a happy coincident 🤔😃
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Ha Ha mate - we are all linked in a universal consciousness as Jung said or through God if you're Christian like me - so depending on your beliefs you just picked on my panic trying to get this thing through copyright the last few days :) Yeah I was out of action from reactions for a few months for a few different reasons, I was volunteering with a party over here for the recent Euro and Council elections and I was setting up two other channels as well. All of that is done now so I have the capacity to get back to this at last. Reactions take a long time to do, between recording, editing and then the multiple cuts to try and get it through copyright so it was the thing I had to drop during that busy period.
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia Ай бұрын
These men was from "light infantry" troops meaning no such things was available. You really have more of a NATO/American mindset when it comes to war and attacks 😊. Finland was a poor country, and had not so much of exactly everything, like you from the British and the Americans had. Just think about them 32 old Tanks where 1/2 of them had no weapon attached to what so ever. You did your service in the Military during the time when this mindset was law and order for you guys. I as a Border Guard Jaeger had only a lot on mines anti tank mines, explosives, handgranades and sometimes a couple of them Nlaws was something we carried around. But you must remember that Britain, Soviet Union and America could wage war on a totally different way than we Finns. Because you where in the army back when Britain still was a force to take seriously you had not lack of anything and could still have that WW2 mindset as a NATO member. I'm not the least surprised and I have to say that your comments that you sometimes could have when you saw that movie Winter War and now this movie makes really no sense whatsoever in my way of thinking.... Sometimes I thought and now think that you must have said such a comment only because you thought that the movie should have more and bigger war scenes, like in these American Hollywood block busters 😢. But I hope that you want be offended because I wrote this about you because it only with love and with an old Finnish military mindset that I'm giving it a thought 😂😂😂. I know that Finland have changed their way of fighting quite substantially, so we may see these mortars and air attacks in the future after Finland have been able to fight a new conflict with that mindset 😂😂... My unit didn't use mortars either, but we was obviously trained to be able to use them if necessary but that was never something we had to carry with us out for weeks out in the forest, which I'm so thankful about, as where they all others.
@ANJING_SITUMORANG
@ANJING_SITUMORANG Ай бұрын
That railroad caused lot of harm, made life difficult. My relatives worked in Russia before civil war and they had difficulties to return back to Finland because new border (1917-1918) between Finland and Russia. They were builders for that railroad. Allied nations used that same railroad for Lend Lease shipments in World War 2. Being wrong side of that border made them traitor for some people.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate for watching and for sharing your families story. That's tough! Very similar to what happened in Ireland after the creation of the Northern Ireland border as well. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia Ай бұрын
These men was from "light infantry" troops meaning no such things was available. You really have more of a NATO/American mindset when it comes to war and attacks 😊. Finland was a poor country, and had not so much of exactly everything, like you from the British and the Americans had. Just think about them 32 old Tanks where 1/2 of them had no weapon attached to what so ever. You did your service in the Military during the time when this mindset was law and order for you guys. I as a Border Guard Jaeger had only a lot on mines anti tank mines, explosives, handgranades and sometimes a couple of them Nlaws was something we carried around. But you must remember that Britain, Soviet Union and America could wage war on a totally different way than we Finns. Because you where in the army back when Britain still was a force to take seriously you had not lack of anything and could still have that WW2 mindset as a NATO member. I'm not the least surprised and I have to say that your comments that you sometimes could have when you saw that movie Winter War and now this movie makes really no sense whatsoever in my way of thinking.... Sometimes I thought and now think that you must have said such a comment only because you thought that the movie should have more and bigger war scenes, like in these American Hollywood block busters 😢. But I hope that you want be offended because I wrote this about you because it only with love and with an old Finnish military mindset that I'm giving it a thought 😂😂😂. I know that Finland have changed their way of fighting quite substantially, so we may see these mortars and air attacks in the future after Finland have been able to fight a new conflict with that mindset 😂😂... My unit didn't use mortars either, but we was obviously trained to be able to use them if necessary but that was never something we had to carry with us out for weeks out in the forest, which I'm so thankful about, as where they all others.
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
You severely underestimate me my friend I come from a country which fought the British Empire at a time when it was the largest on earth with mausers, lee enfields and invented the petrol bomb so I get it. I don't think you understand when you say we get stuff from the Brits and the Yanks as that has never been the case. Also having basic stuff like light mortars and machine guns would be expected for an army looking to take back territory was my point particularly when you are sending them behind enemy lines and I would have thought the alliance with the Germans is where that equipment would have come from. No offence at all mate - I'm not saying I was right but I gave an honest reaction based on what I thought at the time of recording so I'm open to correction as I'm pretty fallible and often make mistakes. The Irish army has never been in NATO, we are a small standing army of about 10K and are mainly geared up for defence and serving overseas on UNIFIL Missions. My service is 30 years ago now anyways so outdated in many ways in terms of equipment but tactics are still tactics :)
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia
@BorderGuardJaegerFinlandia Ай бұрын
@@JTRetroReactions... 😳😳😳... What... I thought you served in the British military, woe I'm sorry man. I'm mostly talking about how western allies fought the WW2, together with US troops, and the British military had so many Irish Units in their military, wasn't that the case at all. Britain had men from India as well. I'm embarrassed that I didn't have a clue about the fact that you had an own military, because I sure have seen a documentary where they mentioned the Irish military and said that they didn't have no Air-force. But they also said that they haven't feel that they need it, because they can "rely" on the British Air-force. But I suppose that this made my brain automatically to come to the conclusion that Irish military is and have always been a part of the British military, where the Irish ones have got their own units, but they are nonetheless a part of British military in some way or another 😔. Well, we learn stuff even in this age my friend and I truly am sorry for my ignorance, because I sure do know the problematic history between Ireland and Britain. We must have in mind that in the start of the Winter War the Finnish military had to send finno troops into battle after they only had been given a military belt, Kokard(Insignia for the hat) and a Mosin Nagant and a handful of ammunition. Finnish military was not so modern or so well equipped as it wanted to be in this stage of the war. We had the Germans, but they fought their own war and couldn't send what we really needed. My grandfather (both actually) said that the continuous war was obviously way better when it came to equipment, but they had not nearly as much as the Soviets. They could not give the artillery barrage on an attack as they had wanted, and sometime it felt more than it was only a salute than anything else. The Soviets in the other hand could order an artillery attack with tens of haubits at one single man, like Simo Häyhä in order to take him out. This was something they also did 😁
@JTRetroReactions
@JTRetroReactions Ай бұрын
Thanks mate and respect to your Grandad for his bravery and service. It was interesting to hear that story. Yes we have our own army, Navy and Air Force but they are small so there is a pact of joint defence with Britain on Air space but only air space. Where you may have got confused, is similarly to Karelia the British tried to breed out the Irish in Northern Ireland resulting in a large British population there. They are part of Britain and have units in the British Military. If you would like to see a good movie about an Irish army engagement you can watch The Siege of Jadotville on Netflix. where 300 Irish soldiers fought a force of 10,000 Congolese, Belgian and French. Killed 3,000 and suffered no deaths. It happened in the 1960s. I also have a video on my channel about When the Irish invaded Canada in 1866 and about our most famous soldier the Duke of Wellington who led the British army against Napoleon when all of Ireland was part of the UK. Your mistake, believe it or not is very common so no need to feel embarrassed
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