Fiore's Fior di Battaglia - Ep. 24 | Standing Breaks

[@connorjensen9699]

Some thoughts on fiore's reverse key lock: I think shooting both hands up from the crossed arms guard (specifically with left arm on top) works really nicely there - it positions both hands almost exactly where they need to be to perform the lock/break. As opposed to blocking, and then waiting for the right hand to go all the way from neutral/down to position. I also believe the illustration is showing a trip with the leg to the attacker's front foot/leg. Great video!

[@superiorhema]

Yes you're right, it appears in the second master plays (crossed), but it's all one system, can be done with different left hand covers. With one handed covers you have the freedom to go under with the right hand as you cover. So you can also get the fast position. The demonstrations are slow so there visible and safe. Cause yes blocking in general doesn't work with dagger, the person has already moved to a new attack. So once it's sparring it's running on to that arm as one motion, regardless of technique. Yes I'd assume its the gambarola, which I used with both.

[@jasonjames9836]

I would agree with you on the fact that you have to truly commit to the break to get it. If you wait for submission, everything can go wrong. Fiore's wrestling is not best used for friendly wrestling competition. Lots of good stuff in the German fechtbuchen for that and everything Fiore uses too. I think Fiore just distills wrestling down and provides an easier to digest format (pretty much across the board, until you get further in the German tradition - J. Meyer for instance).

[@Bounty_Hunter0000]

you've transitioned to fiore's or what?

[@superiorhema]

AND NEVER LOOKING BACK. No this video series is multiple years old, when it comes to wrestling and dagger, it's all just medieval. There's no difference. Every single play can be found in German sources. BUT the german sources are completely random. Fiore has put these techniques into families and one book.