Fire Emblem Fates' Trailer Was A Complete Lie

[@emils1615]

It's weird that so many years passed for someone to finally point out this

[@chrisgarbutt1893]

Fe Fates is the definition of wasted potential and it was depressing to see it's plot released in such a horrible state. Fates concept, world and characters still fascinate me with it's ambition. The main problem IS had during development was the crazy amount of workload of making 3 games during 1 development cycle which they ran out of time and cut most of the story. Concept wise Corrin themselves had amazing potential in the story/design department, but were butchered due to the stupid self insert Avatar trope that denies actual characterization and personal agency. This reoccurring trope would also harm Alear's characterization by making both lords pacifists in nature and I struggle to understand why IS continues it. If Fates was given the Tellius/Foldan treatment by giving it a serious heavy story for each path, proper world building for every nation, cutting Valla for an alternate 3rd path and included FE Echoes first person exploration mechanic so that players can properly explore the world, it could have been one of the best FE games.

[@straypaper]

Look at the bright side. Shez was a correct step forward. They had personality

[@guinnmyahslaysstaymad]

Female robin had character too

[@chrisgarbutt1893]

@Guinn myah slays stay mad I agree that Female Robin has unique character, especially in her support. The reason I didn't mention Robin was because they successfully balanced the avatar/Robin's character in Awakening. She's the tactician archetype which allows more room for character growth instead of the enforced bog standard peace loving lord archetype that IS uses that artificially box in the characters like Corrin/Alear to keep them from growing.

[@straypaper]

@@chrisgarbutt1893 i think M!Robin played the silent right hand man archetype too straight, which made him boring. F!Robin however, is particularly unhinged in her romantic supports (Frederick and Chrom comes to mind) which makes her hilarious and memorable

[@guinnmyahslaysstaymad]

@@chrisgarbutt1893 honestly i dont see people talking about female Robin enough when she is actually the perfect example of a good Avatar.Whenever people say that Robin was to bland and not a good avatar i always have to roll my eyes cause they obviously haven't delt with female Robin at all.There are so many supports where female Robin shows character and developement

[@HariySunTheMan]

I can’t tell if Stevie struggled more with the final chapter of FX or Conquest character creation

[@amandagreene4990]

Lol, I was so hyped for Fire Emblem Fates before it came out. I wrote blog posts doing a ton of ideas/speculation and news coverage. My goodness it was something.

[@ninjakirby777]

My problem with most of the male “avatars” is exactly the same for all of them, they look too generic. Literally give them just normal hair colour and clothing and they could be any generic character. They all look like they could be that mercenary boss you fight in chapter 4 of whatever game they’re in, or the third cavalier you get that your never gonna use cause you’ve had the other two for several chapters longer than them. That’s the vibe they all give to me. Some of the female designs have rightly been criticised but at least they’re more unique.

[@ivanbluecool]

Just like when dorcas got poisoned with muten which later became canon

[@MissModernMayhem]

"My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined" -LuckyCrit probably

[@EnsembleVGM]

This was my first FE game. I was so insanely hype over this game before it came out. I love this game to death, not because of what it ended up being, but the idea of what they were going for and Fates’ world still has me thinking about how awesome this game could’ve been.

[@torgan]

Final Fantasy XV fans would like a word

[@Carlama]

Literally

[@DeCoredge]

the name of the continent is literally just Nohr and Hoshido. In older times the main ruling kingdom of some countries were just named off the kingdom just like in this game which they historically represented well. People just ignorant to certain aspects

[@lucky_crit]

This requires more research.. I don't think it's a stretch to feel that it seems like a lazy move though, it just seems like the no effort approach hahaha

[@RogersBase]

I COMPLETELY forgot about this trailer, LOLOL

[@lucky_crit]

It was the most hype thing ever in a way the game could never live up to!

[@RogersBase]

@@lucky_crit At least we got Camilla out of it!!!

[@juancarlosfernandezperez6843]

The Stoneborn Mask was my favorite because of Giantdad memes

[@The_Triple_Point]

oh wow you got Jaeaik to edit your video! I remember he used to make heroes content back in the day

[@lucky_crit]

He's a cool guy!

[@Material_Monkey]

Still waiting fo the fe game, that looks exactly like the fates intro

[@lucky_crit]

We're definitely getting closer in terms of graphics!

[@Material_Monkey]

@@lucky_crit graphics yes but I do hope the next fe also has a similar artstyle and look to it like the intro haha

[@guinnmyahslaysstaymad]

A darker fire emblem title would be cool or something that plays in old Japan but better executed than hoshido

[@Material_Monkey]

@@guinnmyahslaysstaymad I think I would like something like a Fates 2, where they tell a different story in that universe, but execute everything better, than they did in Fates. Better story, better worldbuilding and so on. I also really liked how they dipped into a more darker european look with more roman influence than usual and a feudal japanese look.

[@tjbaetz]

Every fire emblem game has its own pros and cons, like fates has Camilla enough said

[@ivanbluecool]

Honestly while people like to rag on fates. It at least made three different storylines. I love 3 houses writing but it felt like a slog playing the same or similar story many time with the same maps. If we are different factions let us appear on different sides of the map at least. Fates the gameplay was much better and maps more fun especially conquest Also fates some of the localization was actually good. Not everything but a few bits that were added to garon sumeragi and the kids were actually pretty good and I thought a Jp thing but actually wasn't. Though it's just a drop in the bucket

[@lucky_crit]

I think Three Houses reusing maps was probably what contributed the most to it feeling that way, yeah

[@ivanbluecool]

@@lucky_crit yeah at first I was fine with it but on replays it was such a hard time to play so I just used warp dance to finish them quickly. I mean the paralouges could have easily been main story quests instead especially in golden deer with the big dragon map

[@DoTtA1123]

@@ivanbluecool ur right its just a drop in the bucket. like yeah sometimes the reddit theater kid dialogue got a laugh out of me but overall this is the worst localization for a game maybe ever.

[@ivanbluecool]

@@DoTtA1123 makes me wonder why they do this? Awakening is fine. Fates drops. Echoes just the old games with a bit of extra characters but alright. 3 houses very good and is one breath away from saying everything dark about it for each cast member. Engage straight back to strange translations and cartoon writing It's such a weird cycle

[@DoTtA1123]

@@ivanbluecool I think alot of it actually has to do with the base material. One of the things I've noticed that its generally better for localizers when they get content that is more serious and grounded. Three Houses is a good example of this, there is alot of dialogue but for the most part the only things that got cut or heavily localized where the moments when the original script gets more eccentric, quirky, or suggestive. Three Houses was a more serious, story driven game so its localization for the most part was acceptable work. Fates and Engage on the other hand is made up and comprised of more eccentric characters and scenarios, even in the original script. We start to see the real difference in cultures when the story is no longer tied down to more universally appealing themes and characters. It's more at risk in that way of going against the guidelines and regulations Nintendo of America clearly imposes on its localization teams. But the issue is it creates this weird dissonance because they are okay with making script changes but not actually going into the internal game and tinkering around to support these script changes (Atleast in Engage's case) So you end up getting things like Louis personal skill being kept the same but his actual quirk of his character being censored. Or things like Goldmary can't talk about her boobs but they are right in your face with I don't know, her entire design. It's baffling, but I've more or less just accepted that this is what Fire Emblem is at this point. Interestingly enough I'd imagine a FE4/5 remake would have a better localization than Engage even though there are some darker content in those games just because of the point I mentioned earlier. Those games stories are far more grounded and serious so the only thing to worry about is if they have the guts (I don't think they would anyways, but) to actually censor things like incest/child hunts or radical localization of the new dialogue they might add to make the game feel more modern.

[@rooplostkosmos6276]

So much cut from this game it’s ridiculous

[@jerry3115]

The trailer does look cool though.

[@lucky_crit]

Too cool!

[@DustyHams]

I love fates. I loved replaying this game for the kids so they can destroy with there killer stats and I LOVE male Corrin.

[@chrisf.9595]

Fates' story was butchered, which hurt all three games, in terms of story and gameplay. The first trailer must've been made way before any cuts were made

[@lucky_crit]

Yeah, that's probably true, likely took a lot of time and effort to render

[@sirkoopa2412]

Honestly the controversy about fates localization is dumb imo. Losing out on face petting isn't a big deal lol. Depending on who you talk to, the changes to soleils support with corrin can be a problem but I think even then its not that big of a deal. IS fault for making some of the 2nd gens clones of their dads lol.

[@DoTtA1123]

yeah but even those points are just scratching the surface.

[@yasahana4447]

The localization in general was very bad. just ignoring the silly stuff. Alot of characters were gutted to be even more 1 note traits, And even lines such as Veloria showing affection for her father were turned into bad jokes that had no place being there. Engage does something similar but off the top of my head I believe fates had it worse

[@renren47618]

Those are not the only things the localization changed lol

[@SilentVinyl]

The trailer was awesome but sadly not true

[@dragondrakage2402]

I jated my friend for showing me the trailer in japanese, as it wasnt until a year later we had it availabke in the states

[@pneumo5711]

It's 2023... at this point I don´t care about what anyone has to say about Fates, just get over it😭

[@lucky_crit]

I'm just riffing on it!

[@SweaterPuppys]

How dare you say anything bad about fates!!! Elitist !!!!!!

[@lucky_crit]

whoops

[@paz8723]

please for the love of god put your face away