Fire Emblem: PoR - Ike & Elincia - Full Support Conversation

[@imafreakinninja12]

Ike staring at you in the thumbnail freaks me out.

[@Nomi_MirXa]

He is gonna kill us

[@PLAY-oe1nn]

Does he think we’re related to the Black Knight by any chance?

[@pranavghantasala6808]

He knows what we're thinking And he doesn't like it

[@Antony2618]

LMAO 😂

[@azurestarseliph5926]

Ike has support conversations with his -HopedToBe- love instrest and some other people....... But not with his own little sister?

[@JlBUNROCK]

Youngster from the Unknown Ike witch is why I always support him with Mist in FE 10

[@arkopravosaha3433]

Ike has a natural bond support with Mist always active. We are to presume that they keep having regular conversations like any brother and sister throughout the game but it is not shown on-screen.

[@butteredsalmonella]

IS dont want the same mistake with Ephraim and Eirika but did it in Fates anyways

[@cosmy7594]

@@butteredsalmonella Hey give some credit to FE4.

[@BardockSkywalker]

@@butteredsalmonella *"It's Not Fire Emblem Without Incest"* They Say, But If They Could Make A Support With Chrom & Lissa *& SOMEHOW* Not Make It Romantic, I Don't See Y The Same Wouldn't Apply Tô Mist & Ike, Specially Since There's A Clear Age Gap

[@pippogriffthegreat7003]

"You may kiss - You MAY KISS - Ugh! JUST KISS!!!" ~ Sincerely, the fans.

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

Trevor Luinstra Uhhh... Barbossa?

[@pippogriffthegreat7003]

XxxJim_ the_ ReaperxxX I couldn't resist. The meme was there.

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

+Trevor Luinstra Memes, the DNA of the Soul

[@emperorskulls]

Radiant Dawn: NOPE!!! MWAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!

[@PLAY-oe1nn]

King Kamina Unfortunately

[@ss0766]

I like the noticable friendship development at the end where they just call eachother by their names

[@matthewmuir8884]

And it's a nice callback to earlier in the game, when Ike, during his angry rant at Empress Sanaki, simply refers to Princess Elincia as "Elincia" without realizing it until Elincia pointed it out to him afterwards. This time, they're saying it knowingly; Ike stops being professional and just calls her Elincia, while Elincia drops her overly-formal way of referring to people and just calls him Ike.

[@SJtheMFZB]

Marth and Nyna do this in Shadow Dragon, too, but they both have pre-existing relationships and remain faithful to the degree of helping each other confront their lovers in a bind, quite unlike the open opportunity Ike and Elincia have.

[@whiteraven1992]

_"I am no match for their skill"_ Elincia, you troll (either that, or she's humble). Take a good look at her *Level 1* stats, as well as her Growth rates.

[@shekelabductor7370]

White Raven she is trying to be a reverse Lute.

[@matthewmuir8884]

White Raven probably humble, considering that Elincia is repeatedly shown to have a great amount of humility.

[@davidstanford110]

White Raven PoR Elincia wasn’t that impressive, but if we talkin Radiant Dawn..........

[@BardockSkywalker]

@@davidstanford110 Yeah, RD Elincia Makes Promoted PoR Ike Look Like Roy In Comparason, (Remember I Said Promoted *PoR* Ike, Cause RD Ike Is Praticly A Non Mounted Sigurd)

[@cursedbumblebee3731]

Elincia is really good in fe9 with that unbreakable brave sword. Its pretty normal that she hits an enemy 4 times which is great. And on rare occassions, she even does damage with 9 base strength and 30% strength growth at the end of the game

[@TwilightsInferno1701]

And how did these two not end up together?

[@MrRedGreenBlue1]

social status, that's why in the awakening DLC Ike was rude towards Lucina when she called him "sir"

[@Meteorained]

Ike is most likely gay, that's why.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

Kendall Miller Most likely social status. Ike would never marry someone of nobility because he would hate that kind of life. During the time after the Mad King's War he just went back to managing the Greil Mercenaries and somewhat cut himself off of Queen Elincia. Shinon himself said that Ike was in love with her (although he was drunk).

[@RoyPlummer1995]

Kendall Miller Mostly, what 123Atheist said. And to add to that, Elincia knew Geoffrey all of her life and Geoffrey deeply cared for her. Ike and Elincia did seem to develop a relationship during the Mad King's War, but it never finished for reasons 123Atheist already went through.

[@Meteorained]

Raheem Plummer Or because Ike is actually gay which is pretty heavily implied.

[@masterhunter8538]

I wish Ike could marry Elincia like Marth marries Caeda ;-;

[@pokeboyjake4860]

+Kine gamer Same. Ike and Elincia make a really cute pairing.... :__(

[@matthewmuir8884]

Chris Kekistan I'm guessing you mean Ike? Alm's in an entirely different FE game.

[@PLAY-oe1nn]

Chris take the L Who the freak is Alm in Radiant Dawn?

[@arvinarbabi9173]

@@PLAY-oe1nn dude alm is clearly in rd what are you smoking

[@hyper9984]

Considering Path of Radiance only, yes, totally. Considering Radiant Dawn, though? Totally not. They interact very differently there, like close friends and respected comrades, not like a couple. I like to think Elincia married Geoffrey at the end of Radiant Dawn and that Ike ended up with Soren.

[@ultima2399]

I don't care, in my eyes these 2 got married after defeating Ashnard and Ike had a happy life as king with Elincia by his side.

[@elizabethkblanco4620]

Add Soren as his advisor and we're golden.

[@ultima2399]

@@elizabethkblanco4620 That's perfect

[@ultima2399]

@Kaleidoscopic Glow shhhhhh, whats radiant dawn?

[@ultima2399]

@Kaleidoscopic Glow ok!

[@matthewmuir8884]

The husband of a queen does not automatically gain any titles, let alone become king in Tellius. In Radiant Dawn, Micaiah becomes queen and Sothe marries her, but he doesn't become king.

[@angelduarte5569]

*Give them a sound trashing!*

[@thrasher698]

For those of you wondering why this budding romance was never mentioned in Radiant Dawn, it's because it was added in the localized version of Path of Radiance. The Japanese supports were purely platonic. Radiant Dawn stayed a bit more true to the Japanese version's dialogue (even with it's mistranslated difficulty settings}

[@trafalgarlawn7124]

Too bad they didn't just change the localized Radiant Dawn version as well.

[@tehmaimed]

which even implies moreso that Ike was NEVER interested in Elincia at all. It was just to avoid backlash if the writers explicitly had Ike confess his love for Soren, which by the way, was changed in the localization as well. Elinicia's was basically from "you're my client and thus I'll do my best for your cause" to "I'll realize your dreams and more than that", and Soren's changed from "special someone" to "a great friend" or something like that. It's pretty deliberate with what the writers were intending through the localization.

[@matthewmuir8884]

tehmaimed No. Even in the original version, Ike and Soren are just friends.

[@TheShanicpower]

Matthew St. Cyr I’m sure that’s what they tell everyone around them, before spooning lovingly in their tent.

[@matthewmuir8884]

TheShanicpower and tehmaimed where is your evidence of any romance? There is none. Most people who ship Ike and Elincia do so because, in the localization, there was strong evidence in the dialogue and subtext. With Ike and Soren, all evidence, regardless of localization, points towards a strong friendship; nothing more. By any chance, do either of you also ship Sherlock Holmes and Watson (in any version), Harry and Hermione, and/or Captain America and Bucky? If so, then you're missing out on some interesting friendship story arcs. It's not your fault if that's the case; the sheer amount of lazy shortcuts in writing romances and just plain badly-written romance arcs in modern media has caused audiences to assume romance unless explicitly stated otherwise. Overly Sarcastic Productions did an interesting video that explained this better than I could: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX7FlJtqbNStaMU

[@thoet7270]

A gay man and a lesbian woman bond over belts

[@finalfrontier2491]

*Reason Ike didn't bang Elincia: Nobility* *Ike doesn't want to be Nobility* *Class name in PoR: Lord* -____________________________- Edit: Forgot that Ike was Vanguard, not Great Lord.

[@matthewmuir8884]

Class Name in PoR: Ranger -> lord: promotion occurs in a story event where he is forced to become nobility in order to lead the soldiers on loan from Begnion. He renounces said title when the war is over. Class Name in RD: Hero -> Vanguard: hero makes sense as he is the hero of the Mad King's war. Vanguard makes sense as it refers to the unit that gets sent out first. Neither class name conveys nobility.

[@bracketd_oom2033]

Ike is great Lord in RD? I thought it's hero to vanguard

[@finalfrontier2491]

sephiaKavaliara It's been 6 years since I played any of the Tellius games, I didn't remember.

[@matthewmuir8884]

Final Frontier fortunately, I already pointed out the correct class progression for Ike in PoR and RD, as well as the context behind each, in my first reply. He became a lord in PoR because he had to in order to lead the Begnion soldiers loaned to Elincia. Once the Mad King's War was over, he renounced his title and went back to being a common mercenary.

[@neog8029]

I like to think Ike being a Hero in RD is symbolic. Greil was a Hero in PoD, so it's like Ike has grown as strong as Greil was.

[@Dannwond]

I have a problem for some reason, I swear I've used Elincia in Chapters 26 & 27, yet the level A support doesn't show up before the last battle, help please. And yes, I still can have 1 more support conversation.

[@VideoGamesEpic]

It's intentional - the A support is usually at the base of Endgame.

[@Dannwond]

You mean when you're preparing for chapter 29, right? That's what I mean, before the battle, the support doesn't come up.

[@VideoGamesEpic]

Chapter 29 - the Laguz tower - is when she's unavailable, iIrc. Endgame - when preparing for Ashnard - is when it always shows up.

[@Dannwond]

No, I'm sure she's unavailable in Chapter 28, Chapter 29 is the Endgame.

[@VideoGamesEpic]

Dannwond You're right, my mistake. Do you start the support AT chapter 26's base?

[@tehmaimed]

To settle it: Ike x Elincia was only really substantiated in the localized versions of the game. They made Ike more romantically inclined with the way he talks to her. In the Japanese version he is as aloof as he is to other women's affections for him. There's a whole analysis of it somewhere in the Internet, but it's pretty clear the devs' original intent for Ike was that he was not interested in Elincia in any way or form. The closest form of affection we've seen in both English/Japanese versions is when he hugs Soren in RD, but that could be taken for anything like brotherly love as well. Make of it what you will but Ike's sexuality/romantic affiliations is intended to be ambiguous, which the Japanese are known for in their writing a lot.

[@thesilkenmanster8208]

Eh, the only change the localization made was in this A support. I doubt their relationship was significantly changed between the two versions, considering the ship is actually treated with less hostility in Japan.

[@tehmaimed]

@@thesilkenmanster8208 oh yeah, for sure. But I know (or read) that the reason why Ike/Elincia barely interact in RD, or at least have no romantic subtext is because they went off of the PoR JP script that did not include a lot of the subtext added in the localized PoR. Personally I'm ok with this ship anyways, I headcanon that Ike is pansexual since it fits his narrative better in the way that he doesn't care about anyone's race, origin, social status, etc. So I'd like to think he thinks the same of gender and attraction

[@thesilkenmanster8208]

@@tehmaimed Absolutely, if their A support was like this in the JP version as well, it’s definitely more of a wtf that it didn’t happen in the end. But I think they have more moments in the extended script and I assume the lack of paired endings in this game is the same reason supports were cut - time. serenesforest.net/radiant-dawn/characters/supports/unused/ Bi/Pan Ike believers 🤝💪

[@tehmaimed]

@@thesilkenmanster8208 wow!! I never knew of this. they really need to remake the Tellius duology. FE10 fully fleshed with supports and rebalanced gameplay and characters would be epic - FE9&10 are the pinnacle FE games IMO and I’d love to see them get more love 😭

[@nah4467]

@@tehmaimed Yeah, imo Ike being bi would or having options would be cool with me because they are just good supports and characters from FE9.

[@ShaddoII]

I for one always shipped him with Mia. Who better than to keep each other company than another mercenary?

[@smashikeryu1881]

I ship Ike with Nephennee. They're just a better pairing and there should've been supports between the two

[@matthewmuir8884]

Eh; Mia's probably better off with a healer like Rhys who can keep her patched up.

[@dndn-f2531]

better if there can have S support

[@sharkpool7054]

yep

[@blueblade6174]

DnDn-f this support is too good to need an s support

[@hunterdavis6613]

Amen

[@nakagoe7986]

can you put this in english fandub mode?

[@VideoGamesEpic]

Perhaps one day I can. But that will involve money, that I don't have.

[@guishadowjailson5212]

How Sad....

[@omegadragoon1544]

Ike isn't interested in anyone. Just a shadow. Just like me, I'm not interested in anyone. Dating is a waste of his time

[@bimoprasetyo6862]

True SIGMA MALE GRINDSET ♂️🏋🏻‍♂️💪🏼

[@westube3493]

Priam was created when he tore his own arm off and it grew its own body.

[@marcoantoniosanchezperez851]

I AM THE STORM THAT IS APROACHING

[@nah4467]

Hey man, play what you want to play and give your own story, respect.

[@patrollingthemojavealmostm2698]

Mmmm I dunno how to feel about that thumbnaaaaail

[@PokeShadow77]

Wife

[@sonny167349]

It was a bit of a dick move to not have this ship sail after everything that happened in PoR. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut I believe it can't be denied that overally speaking what happened in RD was for the best, for the characters themselves.

[@matthewmuir8884]

The reason it didn't sail was that it was never in the original Japanese script of Path of Radiance; in the Japanese script, Ike and Elincia have all the chemistry of two planks of wood.

[@fiisyslancer9132]

@@matthewmuir8884 Nah, common misconception. The only thing that was substantially changed was their A support. Their core dynamic was the same between versions, which is why the ship is met with much less hostility in Japan

[@Unknown-wb4ex]

Ike dated Elincia until they both realized they were gay the entire time

[@thesilkenmanster8208]

Ike dated Elincia until Intelligent Systems realized they needed to release Radiant Dawn early so the series didn’t go bankrupt

[@roadfighter1294]

Lmao

[@Iam29941]

I don't like this ship '-' ( I am the only one ik) But I feel like ike is a lot better with Rudolf or Soren with elincia it's kinda cliche... Thank god radiant dawn broke that cliche

[@Bold_Bulma]

Than how is Priam related to Ike then?

[@Iam29941]

@@Bold_Bulma well its obvious not by elincia

[@Bold_Bulma]

@@Iam29941 true.

[@cupie2255]

Yeah, the only reason it even seemed remotely plausible was because of the localization shoe horning it in and lessening an interaction with Soren. They didn't keep this up with Radiant Dawn however, which makes sense since they didn't even bother to translate the hard mode script.

[@cupie2255]

@@Bold_Bulma Spotpass paralogues aren't canon.