Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon: Unit Review Compilation

[@Mangs1337]

*Timestamps* Marth: 0:22 Caeda: 2:20 Jagen: 5:07 Abel 6:49 Cain 7:42 Draug: 9:19 Gordin: 12:55 Wrys: 14:40 Ogma: 16:03 Barst: 18:49 Cord: 21:56 Bord: 23:10 Darros: 24:25 Castor: 26:05 Julian: 27:55 Lena: 29:42 Navarre 32:07 Matthis: 34:20 Merric 35:47 Hardin: 38:34 Vyland: 40:49 Roshea: 42:32 Wolf: 43:34 Sedgar: 47:29 Wendell: 48:25 Rickard: 52:03 Bantu: 52:59 Athena: 55:55 Caesar: 59:10 Radd: 1:00:52 Roger: 1:02:09 Frey: 1:03:43 Jeorge 1:05:18 Norne: 1:09:13 Maria 1:11:04 Minerva 1:13:08 Linde: 1:15:28 Jake: 1:18:43 Midia: 1:21:52 Boah: 1:23:49 Tomas: 1:25:50 Macellan: 1:28:00 Dolph: 1:28:18 Astram: 1:29:08 Beck: 1:30:58 Catria: 1:32:10 Palla 1:34:34 Horace: 1:36:48 Samson: 1:39:40 Arran: 1:42:23 Xane: 1:43:52 Etzel: 1:49:10 Radd Quaetz: 1:51:14 Est: 1:51:28 Tiki: 1:57:25 Lorenz: 2:00:16 Ymir: (We forgot) Elice: 2:02:23 Nagi: 2:04:59 Gotoh: 2:06:59

[@paperluigi6132]

Marth spotlight when?

[@donovanbarrientosreyes]

Mekkak 17:23

[@elian1967]

where's Mekkah review?

[@godofconquest4026]

Thank you for the time stamps Mangs.

[@BerwickSagaFan]

Mangs you forgot mekkkah

[@Mekkkah]

the only way to make jeorge a 5 star unit is to pay filthy orbs

[@goaway0001]

Jeorge is not available at 5 stars. Checkmate

[@nykita427]

You can't pull Jeorge from a 5 star pull anymore

[@tootsie_]

You pay feathers now you nerd.

[@Mekkkah]

pay orbs to get him pay time to train him pay feathers to make him 5 stars

[@paperluigi6132]

I got him as a free summon when he was a focus. With perfect IVs

[@ZzShy]

Tier List based on these review scores: 5.0 - Caeda, Jagen, Lena, Jake, Beck 4.5 - Wendell, Minerva, Nagi 4.0 - Abel, Merric, Hardin, Wolf, Sedgar, Frey, Jeorge, Palla, Tiki 3.5 - Cain, Ogma, Barst, Catria, Xane 3.0 - Wrys, Linde, Boah, Astram, Samson, Etzel, Elice 2.5 - Marth, Draug, Julian, Navarre, Est, Gotoh 2.0 - Bord, Athena, Maria, Midia, Horace, Arran 1.5 - Gordin, Cord, Darros, Castor, Mathis, Rickard, Bantu, Norne 1.0 - Vyland, Roshea, Caesar, Radd, Roger, Tomas, Macellan, Dolph, Lorenz lolwho? - Ymir

[@josecaballero505]

where is the prove mekkah wrong squad in the 5 star tier

[@ABoyDeezNuts]

Zz Shy pretty sure mekkah changed nagi's rating to 4 stars but eh it doesn't matter

[@roigergoololo3966]

Thanks a bunch!

[@theloner8740]

Navarre was rated 3 stars.

[@smithclaxton3357]

Wheres radd quetz

[@RynRyn]

Damn Mekkah out here with that amazing microphone quality

[@peto5637]

1:01:33 "Why would you train him?"

[@papersonic9941]

Losvaize "Memes" is always the correct answer

[@MrThefoo42]

This needs more likes

[@jerry3115]

"jeorge is gonna be the mvp of this playthrough" *benches jeorge instantly*

[@NinjaAO42]

Bantu will be the MVP of FE12 because his nature as a Fire Dragon helps keep the bench warm and cozy for the newcomers

[@BHox01]

Remember Ogma > Barst? Yeah that turned out real well

[@anapparition3516]

I accidentally relcassed Wolf to a general on my first playthrough and at that point was able to completely solo everything. He pretty much like 2 round killed the final boss and took less than 20 damage.

[@100purenacl3]

So... Winning?

[@VieiraFi]

Was that h5?

[@kingofthejungle5338]

@@VieiraFi couldn't be

[@rebeccasheng620]

I was shocked when wolf levels up he gained +2 hp, i immediately realized they’re the cheat characters in this game

[@freeseti1831]

Radd is really a 10 star unit.

[@nathanm5533]

How dare you forget Ymir!!! I know he's discount Barst in every way, but HE HAS THE DEVIL AXE.

[@wallycastagnir]

Nathan m And is an tanguel And the reason why pane exists in chroms (actually robins)army

[@nathanm5533]

Blake Blast no he isnt, I think he said that because he wears animal skins.

[@wallycastagnir]

Nathan m no its mentioned that he isnt human also he looks a lot like palne

[@nathanm5533]

Wally Castagnir where was it mentioned?

[@wallycastagnir]

Nathan m the chapter he Joins

[@RLCLONED]

40:16 *shows Hardin on screen with 8 base defence* Yup Hardin has 3 less defence than 9 defence Cain, thanks wiki

[@thepheeesh]

I love gordim only for the fact I some how managed to cap def with him and he became a better wall than most of my actual walls/knight and generals

[@IWish2500]

On first playthrough I actually did sacrifice Jagen because I was 100% sure they wouldn’t actually make you sacrifice somebody, they’d just come back in a later chapter. Jagen never came in a later chapter

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

Doesn't really matter, Jagen is sort of mediocre on normal anyway.

[@ebicbarton]

@@kentknightofcaelin4537 on harder difficulties though....

[@Bunnymafia8150]

@@ebicbarton you can’t play the tutorial on higher difficulties lol. It’s only on normal mode. Even on normal mode I think he’s a hell of a lot better than Gordin though. Plus keeping him alive gives you an extra cavalier slot, and I like spamming paladins/dracoknights

[@andrecaetano3631]

My sacrifice was Frey, Gordin was my only archer, Jagen as strong and I though that Cain and Abel were brothers so I did not want to separate them

[@derkuchenmacher1455]

Radd Qwetz quickly pulled out his talisman to travel back in time and give himself five stars.

[@killuazoldyck7705]

Guys? Did yall see it? Mekkah actually once rated a character better than Mangs

[@auramire6304]

44:39 So, I'm just looking at Wolf's art and wow he has some insane hips on him. Like, are we sure this is a dude? I can't be the only person seeing this right? I know this is about the unit review but I'm really distracted by those hips now.

[@Sashitoge]

I originally played SD pretty young, when my English was still pretty weak. Until I watched this LP, I was under the impression that all 3 of Julian, Wolf and Roshea were female. Even thought that they were cute. Fucking hell.

[@auramire6304]

It's not gay if you don't know they're dudes. But seriously I can totally see why you'd think that, especially Roshea. He looks a lot like Est.

[@genericanimepicture3559]

Adriana Duncan i thought xane was a girl!

[@protoplasm-1]

Coolman 9024 Figures it’s Marth’s game that has people confused on everyone’s genders.

[@DarkAngel-jo8ix]

I have only ever played fire emblem heroes and didn’t even play much of it, I barely have any idea what you are talking about but for some reason this is still incredibly entertaining

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

PLAY FIRE EMBLEM

[@Bunnymafia8150]

I totally get that, these two have fantastic chemistry.

[@jamesfitzgerald8267]

You should play Fire Emblem if you like tactical RPG's/strategy games.

[@starseeker3002]

Suggestion: Give Yimr a spotlight to make up for forgetting him in the lp

[@gorade1901]

How do you give a spotlight worth a damn on such a unit? When it comes to this game you might as well not, there's barely anything to talk about. This game has no intention of giving you something to care about a unit for outside of stats, and his biggest contribution ia giving a Devil Axe. Big whoop.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

"If you have to recruit Ymir you should probably start a new game." Done.

[@martinrusso409]

That's no excuse. "All units reviewed" means all units. @@gorade1901

[@notingles]

What's the point of this unit" AKA "this is my permanent team options now"

[@Alo-zm7fn]

Something that i love from this game is the fact that even the awful units can become great, and its very funny. My matthis killed medeus for example

[@lolmetaknight]

I also finished medeus with matthis the first time lol, even though he's pretty meh compared to abel, cain and frey he can be a good defensive unit thanks to his 90% and 30% def growth, he's like lowen and treck (without the luck...)

[@Gnarfledarf]

RIP in Ymir, never forgir

[@christianmunso7482]

Wrys: Who are you? Wendell: I'm you but stronger

[@igno4ta]

I discovered a whole new world of knowledge with fire emblem youtube videos. My highschool classmates and me loved playing the saga but they all agreed for instance that Marcus and Jaeger sucked because they were already promoted and it was unconvenient for gettng 20/20 with thir favorite characters. I love seeing how people love this type of characters :d

[@ElHarmonyV]

Loving the Jaegan archetype makes you discover some complete monsters you would have missed out on if you just benched all of them like Seth and Titania (I know their technically a different archetype but the only way you'll use them is if you didn't hate Jaegans)

[@GreatBigHill]

Some of the stats on the unit review screens are wrong, e.g. Hardin has 8 defence whereas the summary says he only has 6 and Etzel's FE12 bases are shown here, not his FE11 ones.

[@rontheauraknight9606]

Is Gordins VA the same as Pits? The two sound eeirly similar... im almost expecting him to say something about Lady Palutena...

[@supahuai]

Antony Del Rio would have been around 6 when the OVA came out in English. He's voiced by a Kurt Stoll there. Coincidentally Silas and Percy in fates have Pit's VA tho

[@luckymango636]

supahuai that doesn't answer his question

[@supahuai]

true. edited it.

[@rontheauraknight9606]

Yeah I'm notsure why I thought that I'm running on like 4 hours of sleep lol.. Personally though the two sound similar... but I do hear plenty of VA's and compare them similarly to others... Karen Strassmen comes to mind cause I can confuse her voice for others...

[@tootsie_]

Ymir spotlight or riot.

[@tholink1890]

Both ranked Radd 1 Star, still beats Medeus on Hard 5 on his own.

[@sen5857]

Wasn't Nagi the one that set up the kill?

[@azurethescaletipper210]

Sen I remember such. Even still, Rad is stronger than he looks.

[@MythrilZenith]

Mangs: Marth gets 3 stars. Me: Oh boy this is gonna be good.

[@kakashimurphy3440]

Mek has completely lost my respect after giving my boi marth a two star rating

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

Tbh if I can bench Marth I would have benched him asap. He’s like worse lord compared to Ike or even Chrom.

[@jamesfitzgerald8267]

@@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263 still better than Roy though, but yeah Marth is one of the weaker lords in the series.

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

@@jamesfitzgerald8267 Roy???? He can go f himself. He shouldn't ever join the battlefield

[@jamesfitzgerald8267]

@@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263 yeah, he is probably the weakest lord in the series, Lyn might be a bit weaker but it's really close.

[@alvarlindstrom2188]

fun fact: shiida IS named shiida in the european version of FE 11

[@TheMadRedHatter]

Hey Mangs, were there any units that, after using them in this playthrough, have since made you change your opinion of them, either good or bad, or, in one particular case, Radd?

[@Mekkkah]

notMangs but Roger and Gordin were surprisingly usable on H5. Wendell wasn't all that great lategame though he was still a helpful staff user. Jeorge is bad.

[@TheMadRedHatter]

Mekkkah Ngl I think Gordin and Jeorge’s ratings should be swapped. Gordin provides chip damage earlygame when you desperately need it. Jeorge kinda doesn’t do much besides have okay bases. Actually now that I look at it Gordin and Jeorge have really similar growths so ultimately Gordin reaches Jeorge's stats by just training him up to level 10 and early promoting. Also Gordin was helpful in endgame. Gordin>Jeorge.

[@Roguerobin4]

Gordin=5 Stars and Jeorge=2 Stars then? Bold claim.

[@MrEntinen]

anyone is usefull is you drop all your money on them.

[@duyminhpham8083]

Jeorge has B right rank bow off the bat, while Gordin or Castor would probably require some care to get there. He has two good things: His bases are goods so you can at least use him as a good filler to snipe wyverns and using Parthia. His growths however are going no where and his 7 turns cost can hurt in LTC. And how is Gordin of all people better than him? Chip damage is fine and dandy but grinding him is hard, and, for me gives little pay off. Castor would definitely beat Jeorge because he has a pony, can take more hits, and get sword upon promotion (if you are not reclassing him).

[@moomanchu608]

Cant wait to watch all your playthroughs with mekkah. You two are the best FE duo to follow 😂

[@Percevalko]

Mekkah: Bases over growths Also Mekkah: Gives Wolf and Sedgar 4/5

[@Bunnymafia8150]

They are a very special case to be fair, but even dondon found uses for them in 0% growths just because of the promoted class options.

[@michaelneumann5270]

One of the videos I’ve been excited for, I’m super excited to watch through this whilst at work. Thanks for all the time you put in your videos mangs

[@MKnut207]

I love how poorly some of these ratings aged.

[@ebicbarton]

Example?

[@misterbadguy7325]

@@ebicbarton Mangs insisted Ogma was better than Barst, and the exact opposite happened. Also, Mangs rated Jeorge five stars and then dropped him almost immediately.

[@gunnariron797]

See this two together makes me happy

[@andrewkos5560]

Jeorge is a 5 Star Unit. Never forget.

[@TheCasualSubculturist]

I think we should give chance for Fire Emblem Characters to review Mangs.

[@corrinthechocolatine4025]

Radd : "there no use for this guy" ...

[@yuumijungle548]

jagen actually has really bad stats for a prepromoted unit, however the B rank in lances combined with the silver lance makes him insanely strong, it increases his damage output and his hit rate a ton, weapon rank in shadow dragon is way more important than stats. also ceada has additional utility, you can farm pretty much infinite money in arenas with her, as long as you come prepared and buy alot of healing staffs, even on hard 5 shes the optimal unit for arenas since she will never get crit you can always press b in time when the matchup is bad and either way if the entry fee is below 1000 gold she should win 99% of the time, if its above 1k you can just say no and try again in the same turn until he gives you an easier one. on hard 5 you cannot send any other unit but her into arenas since if the enemy has even 1% crit, bad things will happen.

[@huron994]

I know you guys hate on bow users because they can't counter like javelins or hand axes, but archers having that ranged chip is great if you can reliably and strategically defend. This is easier when you take your time, I've never warp skipped though so that's where I stand

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

Hunters and Snipers are alright in this game but Archers really aren't

[@cooppp]

Mangs actually came to appreciate archers and their chip damage in the playthrough as the game went on

[@ashleighcrichton8096]

Default total Growth Rates (HP+Str+Mag+Skl+Spd+Lck+Def+Res): Swordmaster: Nabarl: 260(best), Athena: 225, Radd: 260(best) Sniper: Gordin: 225, Norne: 230(best), Jeorge: 180, Tomas: 205 Horseman: Castor: 200, Wolf: 545(best), Sedgar: 535 Thief: Julian: 342(best), Rickard: 232 Pegasus Knight: Caeda: 285, Minerva: 230, Catria: 320(best), Palla: 255, Est: 285 Sage: Merric: 265(best), Wendell: 175, Linde: 245 Bishop: Wrys: 170, Lena: 200, Maria: 215, Elice: 315(best), Boah: 120, Gotoh: 300 General: Draug: 220, Roger: 270, Dolph: 225, Macellan: 205, Horace: 170, Lorenz: 280(best) Hero: Ogma: 260(best), Caesar: 245, Astram: 260(best), Samson: 225 Paladin: Abel: 250, Frey: 290(best), Jagen: 160, Cain: 270, Matthis: 240, Roshea: 225, Vyland: 200, Hardin: 240, Midia: 240, Arran: 230

[@davidhill8565]

The 2-Star rated units can be a force to be reckoned with if you invest enough in them.

[@stevenliang3213]

You can say that with any units

[@werewolf4925]

Here's hoping that you come back one day Mangs. Day to day life is just so much tougher without your daily content.

[@werewolf4925]

Yeah, I gues sometimes requests do come true

[@rotomRASENGAN]

My final team for Marth was: Caeda, Cain, Abel, Draug, Gordin, Ogma, Barst, Lena, Navarre, Linde, Merric, Minerva, Tiki, Elice (and Gotoh of course). I also had Julian, Castor, Darrios, Jake, Midia, Astram, and Xane on backfill.

[@nathanielzarny1176]

I turned cord into a mercenary early on, along with a seraph robe he became one of my best units. Almost all his flaws went away, and was actually in the late game better than ogma

[@grimreaper9115]

I'm still waiting for that history of the Freelancer video.

[@Mochi_Madness87]

Oh shit I almost forgot Hardin. That guy put in SO much work in my last run of Shadow Dragon. He was a boss killer/chipper and he absolutely wrecked weaker units.

[@slemanrawashdeh1864]

i wish you could make a legend of cao cao units review

[@heh4362]

This actually more helped me with deciding who to kill off for Athena lol

[@victikirby15]

I demand a 15 minute analysis of Ymir

[@pictureofacat9525]

"Why field Wrys when you can field Wendell?" NOBODY BEATS 20 RES WRYS.

[@ix8750]

Keep in mind these rankings don't apply nearly as much if you take like 400+ turns on all the maps with arenas. 😅

[@Seddyhere]

Hay this came out on my birthday

[@agustinxd3monroy69]

Xane? You mean three battle stations!!

[@ZeldaDomination]

I.... can't help but feel these two hate each other lmao

[@starmaker75]

Well given the allegations of mangs maybe this was foreshadowing.

[@glowstickofdestiny1290]

1:26:35 Pent and Nino or Saleh and Ewan?

[@splnter648]

When I saw castor I was wondering why there'd be a playable beaver in the game

[@crystalarm0r]

such a heated debate on est's ranking

[@ashleighcrichton8096]

IMO, Skl(Skill/Dexterity), Spd(Speed), Lck(Luck) are the most important stats (for hit rate, critical hit rate, evasion). So the classes 1. Swordmaster, 2. Sniper, 3. Horseman are the best. (Best of Mangs ranking: Caeda(Pegasus Knight), Jagen(Paladin), Lena(Cleric), Merric(Mage), Hardin(Cavalier), Wolf(Horseman), Sedgar(Horseman), Wendell(Sage), Frey(Cavalier), Jeorge(Sniper), Minerva(Dracoknight), Jake(Ballistician), Beck(Ballistician), Catria(Pegasus Knight), Palla(Pegasus Knight), Tiki(Manakete), Lorenz(General), Nagi(Manakete) So to summarize the tier list ranking of Mangs and Mekkah: already promoted units (Paladin/Sage/Sniper/Dracoknight/Manakete/General), Pegasus Knight/Cavalier/Horseman for mobility (Flying/Horseback), Cleric for healing/warp, Mage for ranged attacks against armored units with high defense, Ballistician for range.)

[@bench7775]

BUT MAAAAAAAANGS where are the maniac PoR videos?

[@papersonic9941]

Explutor still waiting for the Enemy Phases to end.

[@Lapran3]

Neat that in the remake they keep Draug’s unusually high for his class Speed growth. And since Knights are promotable in the remake… I’ll bet he can actually get pretty busted real quick

[@davidolvera1031]

The captions be like "I made a major mistake when rating a character but instead of owning up to it I'm gonna say that I would have rated him that low anyway."

[@stephenjex8841]

Idk Wrys has his combat uses especially on Garneffs map where he clones himself, cause Wyrs get a big res build and basically acts as a tank. Is it worth it to get him there, maybe not, but I got him there and made that map so easy

[@Ricardo7250]

If you use 2 healers on your team per mission, can easily level up 3 healers to lv 20 until you get to chapter 19. It can be Wrys, Lena and Linde (or another unit you want to reclass to healer). Since there are a good number of Master Seals in the game it's worth promoting Wrys and use him. Compared to Lena, Wrys will have more HP and a bit more Res, so he will be better than her in some situations. I also used him on those magic maps recently.

[@double2254]

I made Barst my Armor Knight He does not die, a must field (I tried to not field him and completely lost every time)

[@double2254]

And how did Gordon become my third best unit? He got a minimum 4+ every level (and that was only two times) Cedea is the best obviously But how did Merric get a 4 star rating?!?!?! Merric is Jesus incarnated in Fire Emblem. If he dies, reset the game

[@double2254]

My four best units were Cedea, Merric, Gordin, and Armor Knight Barst

[@emblemwarrior11]

Doubledasher You're actually intelligent! Merric is indeed Jesus.

[@TheJayeagle]

You can't tell me what to do! *Uses Gordin, Rickard, Vyland and Cord*

[@phi6221]

You should really make a playlist for these unit review compilation

[@cesarelizondoramos3432]

Member when Jeorge was a 5 star Unit... I member

[@waynegilliam3335]

fun fact other than wolf and sedgar dolph hs the third best defence growth at base class in the game

[@DarkChaosKaxi]

2:07:30 Radd Chant One star unit.

[@Starwars-Fanboy]

I wish Horace had the other reclass set . He’d be godly as a Draco and he could be a good paladin as well . Such a shame . Also I wish he could use axes as a general , just because i think it’d be cool , look how badass he looks with one in his art .

[@paperluigi6132]

Ghast hasn’t uploaded in almost a month. Can you check on him to see if he’s okay?

[@paperluigi6132]

Yeah, but, ANYTHING could happen

[@Mangs1337]

Follow him on twitter, he usually gives updates there; twitter.com/ghaaast

[@paperluigi6132]

Thanks

[@paperluigi6132]

I don’t have Twitter

[@darthr0xas363]

Paper Luigi Well, it's free to get.

[@pinheadlarry3992]

Navarre actually makes an OP sniper, his skill & speed growth rates make it ez for him to chip people down with a Killer Bow

[@TheRedScizor]

5 points!

[@waynegilliam3335]

if you reclass bord into a mercenary he is really useful except his HP

[@asterie_stythia]

This "Roger Roger" thing is the most beautiful meme ever

[@Ghi102]

Barst (and other axe users) just have better stats as a hero instead of a warrior.

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

That's why reclassing in this game is stupid and broken.

[@knightmarin]

GORDIN was my MVP

[@darkbladetri]

It would be nice if they do thracia binding blade and sacred stones

[@kylieeliz]

Oh nooooo, I was lead astray by the guides. They said to sacrifice Jagan or Cain... and Cain is cute, so I kept Gordin instead of Jagan. But I'm sure it's fine; I'm playing on Normal lol

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

Normal is ridiculously easy, you don't even need Jagen on normal.

[@aleisshiki3649]

:OO danganronpa music

[@musicalboi3792]

So I did a hard 4 iron man and used Darros and he was my MVP. Of course it is player experience, I'm sure I got lucky with some dodges or growths. But I turned him into a fighter, and then lowered the weight of his steel axe (also adding some more might to it) as soon as I could. This lead to him being able to double things and kill them. Then turned him into a Berserker and he just one shot everything...

[@jayjaybongo]

How come you've not done one of these for FE8 Sacred stones? Or FE6? Would love to see them, love your content lad keep it up!

[@Starwars-Fanboy]

Josh Johnson He will when he gets around to playing those games , this video is taken from his lp of shadow dragon . I’m sure he’s gonna do fe 6 soon since it’s his favorite and there’s a bit of demand as well Also I’ve asked him when he’s playing fe 6 and he said he was considering it but shadow dragon won out ( or path of radiance ) I forgot which one he said. Anyways point is he’ll be playing it soon enough

[@Ephraim225]

No way would he ever play FE8

[@josecaballero505]

i just remenber mangs rating sedgar 4 out 5 star in hard five, sedgar carry his ass almost the whole game XDDD true justice to sedgar the mage killer!

[@matthewsaadut2532]

FIVE POINTS!!!

[@Toddchanw]

Remember Ogma and Jeroge?

[@phas9484]

I member

[@tootsie_]

The "prove mekkah wrong" squad, right?

[@bigtimetimmyjim6486]

Hardin: "rip, no other official artwork"

[@gregster1016]

You didn't do Ymir

[@stephenlee3193]

Gregster 101 ppppppppppppppp

[@slemanrawashdeh1864]

the game is more of a Book 1 in fe3 rather than fe1 especially for draug

[@sirlottawin]

Do one of these for every game in the series

[@annenoose6444]

Thanks manga, this makes this much easier.

[@piculra7441]

In my opinion, Cain, Frey, Abel, Tiki and Nagi are the best units. Cain, Frey and Abel have great growth rates and join at the start, Tiki can easily surpass Nagi, Nagi is extremely powerful.

[@princeofpeace6432]

piculra I think all of those units are great but Cain. Not having javelins at base sucks and it takes him like 70% of the game to be able to use the ridersbane.

[@kurodyne9692]

No Caeda? Uhhhhh

[@duyminhpham8083]

I would dish Cain for Jaigen. He is Jaigen so you knows his deal. Cain is bad because of the comment above mine.

[@marylovesdavidcook]

Why use Cain when you can use Hardin?

[@BoneyGaf]

marylovesdavidcook Supports Abel. It's a pretty nice passive perk between the two of them. Cain is definitely one notch below Abel, but it's one of the few units that pays off to baby him in chapter 1.

[@Raizdorf]

Lol I watched the let's play but I just realized they forgot Ymir :p Too bad, he's my favorite unit from the Archanea games but he would probably be a 1 or 2 stars anyway based on the Merciless difficulty.

[@Starwars-Fanboy]

Iceborn He has decent bases as a hero ... he could earn a 3 star but nothing higher ... he rated est 3 stars and surly ymir is better than est

[@fate8718]

​@@Starwars-Fanboy ik this is late af but Est is a weird case where if you do train her she caps a lot of stats however her join time and bases are ass Imo should be like 1.5 stars leaning on a 1 star Ymir is just a aight unit that requires everyone to die to recruit him and therefore is a liability

[@Starwars-Fanboy]

@@fate8718 If we count the opportunity cost that definitely brings Ymir down. When I rate units I prefer to not include penalties for that kind of stuff. For example I'd rate FE7 Geitz on his abilities regardless of the recruitment conditions. It's up to each player if that unit is worth the cost. So I don't factor it in myself. That's just my philosophy though.

[@fate8718]

@@Starwars-Fanboy This is a train of logic that Im iffy on because it does ignore some in game bullshit, however doesnt factor everything the unit has to offer good or bad. Like Marth having the Falchion and the Fire Emblem are things Ill rate positivly for him even if there really isnt an opertunity cost to them. Or to use another game, Ill rate Camilla in Conquest higher thanks to a early join time(hince why I think Camilla>Xander in terms of gameplay) and Ill penalize Shura since he isnt better than more move on Camilla, even if they themselves have nothing to do with it. Tho if we are arguing Ymir ignoring you have to kill every last one of your allies to get him and ignoring his rather late join time and the shitty paralouge he is in, Id say a solid 2 stars thanks to his usable bases and yk axes.

[@Starwars-Fanboy]

@@fate8718 I understand wanting to factor that in but for certain units I think its silly. Like should Farina be a 1 or 2 star bc of the gold cost? Or should we rate her on her stats, availability ect and then let every player determine if thats worth the gold ? That could vary for every player depending on how well they've managed their gold and if they sold things like the ocean seal. That's why I don't like to factor it in because it's more variable than the hard numbers of bases, growths and availability. Also I'm not sure if this is the impression you got but I wouldn't exclude things like Marths Falcion or fire emblem from his rating. Or Camillas great availability. I would have a different tiering philosophy for Shura though. I wouldn't weigh his worth as unit against boots for his rating. I would just rate him on his own and then the player can compare that to the value of boots themselves. The only real difference is at what point we factor in opportunity costs/recruitment costs.

[@jpragata017]

Give ymir review please.

[@sauce4279]

Isn't Phina from this game?

[@fujonazuna]

shes from the next game

[@AlejandroRodolfoMendez]

the only thing i could use those useless unit like vyland and matthis is for the extra chapters sacrifices. still norde is hard to get but it is like gordin. and i do the prologue for the new cavalier and for the stats.

[@RynRyn]

Also *kiss kiss*

[@WuPongPingPPing]

Alright unit? What you talking about Marth is a BEAST if you train him up real good.

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

Every unit will be good if you trained him. Marth is the worst lord in the series with shitty defense and res. Try training Gordin up and he is literally a wall.

[@ebicbarton]

@@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263 well, debatebly worst. Roy's pretty bad too but regardless

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

@@ebicbarton I would say Roy is better because of the FE universe he is in. For Marth? Meh if they allow players to bench Marth, i bet everyone would do it

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

@@ebicbarton nah fe11 Marth is okay. At least better than Roy, Lyn and Eliwood. I don't really think he's much worse than Eirika or fe9 Ike in the context of his game.

[@samirjohnson4524]

2:07:30 NICE

[@samirjohnson4524]

@@nessdbest8708 Wassup?

[@samirjohnson4524]

@@nessdbest8708 Sure! Which one is the best option for chatting with you?

[@samirjohnson4524]

@@nessdbest8708 I'm sorry, but what is this? I haven't been to a discord server before.

[@samirjohnson4524]

@@nessdbest8708 Actually no.

[@samirjohnson4524]

@@nessdbest8708 I sent you a request. Though I didn't download, I do have an account set up.

[@tobathetura7482]

Really glad I decided to watch this before my first playthrough.. seems like 90 percent of recruits are straight trash, especially considering I HATE the low base stat pre promotes. Hard to sort through to find decent growth types

[@Supersomething64]

Nice.