Fireflies E07X Pro Review - vast improvement over original design | Thermal issues solved | USB C

[@morfiuss]

Awesome review as always. What firmware version does it use? Can't find it on toykeeper

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Thanks! It is probably one of the first Anduril 2 versions ever released

[@lw8249]

Isn't this light better (in terms of sustained output) even then Ace beam E70? Wonderful

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

They are pretty close with slight advantage of E70 (~1.300lm vs ~1.200lm on E07X Pro).

[@johnmpifer]

Is this available for purchase? I’m seeing it shown as available on the Fireflies website. I thought it was unavailable due to shortage of the LUME1 drivers. Is this the same model you review in this video?

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

There is a new driver with FET channel, so potentially even better with more output in Turbo.

[@NHWilderness]

Does the eo7x cannon come with a battery if not what do u buy?do u need a charger?

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

You can order it with the battery or buy an unprotected 21700 cell. E07X Canon has a built-in USB C charging port

[@NHWilderness]

@@FlashlightEnthusiast nice tnx

[@youtubeuser5424]

Anyone know if I can get different optics for this light anywhere?

[@jericosha2842]

Dang it's sold out on their site.

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Yup, waiting myself to get another one. Pity it sold you that quickly

[@discopanda28]

I’ve been after this light for months but no stock. What is going on? 😞

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

No drivers availabe for this model... Such a shame

[@discopanda28]

@@FlashlightEnthusiast thank you. A shame indeed 🙁

[@olegkrasko8928]

I can say that I absolutely do not like the thick square threaded connection on the head-body part. mainly due to the fact that this type of threaded connection has very poor thermal conductivity properties. this way you will have more restrictions in hi modes. for example, the wurkkos ts21 (sst 20 4000k) that I have. the thermal conduction from the head to the body is so weak that turbo mode lasts about 12 seconds. in the end, I had to disassemble this flashlight to use the driver on the appropriate housing.

[@ayokay123]

Awesome flashlight. It would be perfect if it had a tail cap switch. Can't have everything, unfortunately. Great review!!!

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Thank you! Tail switch here might be interested. Would you like electronic FW3A style, or rather military physical one?

[@ayokay123]

@@FlashlightEnthusiast If a military style would prevent it from standing on its tail, I'd be happy with a flat electronic one.

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

That's what I thought, thanks for the reply

[@artiet5982]

Love this light! i have (2), ordered them back in march when FireFlies released preorder. Got sst20 5k and 4k, blue and red respectively. one is my newest most used light, the other i am keeping pristine condition because the Red is SO nice looking lol. Thanks for the review. My biggest regret - not spending the extra $20 and getting them both in xpl-hi instead. waiting for round 2 in july (according to jack) and get 2 more in xpl-hi 4k and 5k. or in 4k xpl-hi and osram if he releases with osram.

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

I wish it was available in XP-L Hi 4000K. 5000K is not bad at all, I even like the tint, it seems warmer than normal 5000K I encountered in the past

[@tedkordecki8554]

I am waiting on a E07X Pro ordered from Jack and he emailed me this question: "The original optics wont come back until 15th Oct. Now we have 25 degree beed optics for E07. If you can accept Beed optic, we can ship out your order tomorrow." My question for you is, is this the same new 25 degree optics that is on yours in your video review, or are these different? I am unfarmiliar with both. Any suggestions or info? I was unable to post the pics he sent of the Beed optics here, so I posted the same question with pics of the optics under your Facebook page of the E07X. Thanks, Ted.

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

It can be interesting. After using E07X Pro for a longer period of time I would like to see the option for wider optic, like older E07. The one I had in video is 10° optic, which is good for throw, yet less practical up close. So if you like floody beam, sure, go for that. I fear that the beaded optic is more than 25° though...

[@Knifeguyyy]

Love your vids, my wallet doesn’t. How many clicks or degrees do you add to the temp limit on this one?

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Thank you! I quess you control it ;) If I remember correctly I set it to 60 degrees, so 30 clicks in settings.

[@ayokay123]

Stupid question, but does color temp affect run time at the various lumen outputs? I'm leaning towards the 6500k for brightness reasons, but would get the 5000k if it means longer run time. And I don't understand the SST20 vs XPL Hi difference. Is one inherently better than the other? Thanks!

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Good question. Brightness difference does is not only due to the color temp, but also efficiency. That being said, the cool white emitters will have the longest runtime, along with max bringhtness

[@ayokay123]

@@FlashlightEnthusiast Which begs the question why anybody wouldn't want the cool white? Merely color preference? And why would the 5000k option be more expensive than the 6500k? Greater demand for neutral than cool?

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

That's the question of personal preference, which is than extended to demand on the market. I suspect on enthusiast circle the demand for warmer, more pleasant tints is much greater than on mass market, where people care more about lumens

[@ayokay123]

@@FlashlightEnthusiast Yeah, I'm a flashlight newbie, which is probably why I want the highest lumens. And the reason I want the highest lumens is because I live on the 30th floor of a high rise building with a large park below. Drug dealing sometimes takes place in this park and I'd like to be able to shine a bright light on the suspects because the police take so long to arrive. There are also several other large parks nearby which is why I'm looking for the best combination of throw and flood.

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

In that case cool white seems to be the best choice. Desorientating effect of cooler tint is a bonus in drug dealing scenario ;)

[@1fareast14]

Great video! Is the moonlight lower on the e07? 1 lumen said that moonlight on the e12r was 4 lumens

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Thanks man! Moonlight level is comparably bright I'm afraid. Harsh reality of buck driver I guess. You can set it lower than default level 3, yet flickering will be stronger. So I believe trade off is not even 😀

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Earlier E07 had lower moonlight mode, about 5 times dimmer to my eyes

[@slaughtercrx]

Is that clip able to be put between the head and tube for light up clipping into a pocket?

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

No, it is only able to be as installed. If you put it the other way around you will not have electrical contact, even if it fits the tube there

[@slaughtercrx]

Well crap. Love the lock on clip, but would want to clip it on with big head out. Great video. Thank you 🙏🏻

[@Upgrayedddd]

I see they got rid of the faulty switch. Loved the light but I had to go with another brand because it only held up for about a year

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

The new switch is much better, both in terms of tactile feedback and looks ;)

[@ikillyomama]

My e07 switch also gave up the ghost after about a year which sucks on such an expensive flashlight (for a normie such as myself)

[@tedkordecki8554]

Excellent review, thank you for such attention to details. Your test result of 72 seconds on turbo for this new X Pro model was with xpl hi 5000k emitters. Will the xpl hi 4000k emitters run time on turbo be significantly less? Also I really would like to buy the E07X Pro in Titanium body with Copper head, but it isnt available yet (hopefully it will be). So I was actually debating on getting the original limited edition model with this option. (I already have a Red E07X Pro on the way). Will having the Titanium body with copper head help heat distribution greatly, effectively getting longer runtime on turbo before step downs? Possibly getting 40 seconds to 1 minute turbo time with the original E07? Any idea if the E12 will be offered in Ti/Cu? Thanks, Ted.

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Well, 4000K have a bit lower efficiency, yet I suspect around 60 seconds in Turbo anyway, due to LEDs being xp-l hi and overall thermal mass of this flashlight. That being said, remeber that aluminum is so popular flashlight material for a reason - it is lightweight and has a good thermal conductivity. Ok, copper is even better in the latter, yet in the design you mention it is only in the head section, the rest is titanium (really bad material for flashlights as it is heavier than aluminum and has much worse thermal conductivity). Titanium is marely for lloks, copper saves a bit of thermal performance, yet it is still worse than pure aluminum construction. That is my view on that :)

[@tedkordecki8554]

@@FlashlightEnthusiast Thank you very much for your response, very helpful.

[@ayokay123]

A great comparison video would be this against the Astrolux EAO1s.

[@whokilledjr3719]

Astrolux lights typically use cheap fet drivers with horrible thermal regulation, the ea01s is no different, short turbo and the output drops to almost off. Fireflies handle heat and regulation much better, I believe the e07x regulates as high as 6amps which is a lot of high regulated output.

[@timbaaa69]

I love all your videos, very informative and it even led me to order a e07x last week. I went with the Nichia version, but now I'm wondering what battery I should use. The previous 'safe' choice for the previous e07 was 50E, but your current suggestion is to stay away. Do you think its because of the driver or the XP-Ls? What 21700s would be a 'safe' choice for the Nichia version of the new e07x?

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Nichia sw45k, Samsung LH351D and XP-L Hi in both E12R and E07X Pro show similar results with 50E. So I suspect the driver and chemistry not matching (unfortunately I cannot explain it). So LG M50 also would fail. I checked Sofirn 21700 5000mAh cell and it works fine - i believe there is NCR21700 from Tesla/Panasonic cell inside these, so you can try those :)

[@artiet5982]

the head side threads may be thin, but i feel they are Very Smooth. on both this and e12r. i have the tan e12r, and the anodization on that is Definitely more "raw" as you stated, the e07x anodization is much better finished

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

Yes, as you say they are smooth yet thin. I have doubt if they last long enough - in my opinion they should be made thicker, especially that they are being used in this connection. As you may remember, earlier E07 featured similar threads from the head side, yet those at the tail were squere and anodized - and made to be unscrewed often. Ok. here we have USB C build in, so theoretically you can give in unscrewing the tube every time you want to charge the battery. However, I find it a bit misaligned with the whole flashlight build approach here, where everything seems to build in purpose...

[@1fareast14]

How do you measure lumens? Wanted to make a runtime graph for my k9.3 when it arrives

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

I have special lumen box assembly, with calibrated luxmeter. Nothing complicated really, you can even use your phone with proper app.

[@mightyfinejonboy]

i have the 12r and am very impressed with the utter power it produces i would be tempted to buy another if it came in red, had the power button light up option like the astrolux and maybe get rid of the blink in the ramp-up (it really spoils the experience) But utterly love its construction and attention to detail (those silver-coated springs omg...) but this E07x looks like a buy this wintertime for me.

[@FlashlightEnthusiast]

OMG, red FF are so beautiful. I wish I ordered one in this color and as you say it would be amazing to see E12R in Red.

[@rickywrenn]

I think the blink is to inform you it is going into or out of regulation into direct drive. Not positive though.

[@discopanda28]

If anyone has a new in box NW that they’d be willing to sell please reply.

[@tomconnors8165]

Check today, small run being sold.