FIRELANDS FIRST IMPRESSIONS - CATACLYSM CLASSIC

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Joardee

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@Scottejaye 2 ай бұрын

Cheers Joardee, great video as always!

@andromidius 2 ай бұрын

I really hope the issues with Hunter are addressed - apparently the 'Grey Zone*' is absolutely massive on Ragnaros, so Hunters can't effectively deal damage and will be a complete anchor on the raid team. (* For those not in the know about Hunter woes - Grey Zones are when a boss has such a huge hitbox that they are inside their minimum range even when standing quite far away from the boss, and it can lead to a bug where even when you leave melee range your auto-shot is disabled still and you're effectively dealing 30%+ less damage then you should be doing. There are some workarounds and 'tricks' to reset this bug, but they are unreliable and annoying. Bring on Hunters having their minimum range removed, makes life so much nicer.)

@paulchristie2509 2 ай бұрын

Then they are way to deadly in pvp..

@nerdock4747 Ай бұрын

I've never heard of Hunters having problems in wow, so this is a nice change of pace.

@JohanHultin Ай бұрын

It's called a Deadzone, not greyzone homie.

@kingeh1 24 күн бұрын

@@JohanHultin deadzone is the area hunters can't attack in melee cause it's out of range, but can't attack at range cause it's too close.

@funchicoo 2 ай бұрын

Can't wait for your guides heheh.

@JohnRock14 2 ай бұрын

Heh

@davidr6656 2 ай бұрын

still waiting for the lk hc guide lul

@blury2558 2 ай бұрын

was pretty much a 1 boss raid even back then. The bosses were kinda fun, but everything except rag was ez. It's a really, really short tier

@edwardc4453 2 ай бұрын

Popped up again in my feed, this is the only raid outside of sinestra i found to be enjoyable in college/15 years ago. Hope they give you the pre-nerf raids as they were a challenge and i frankly remember the nerfed versions made this raid a speedrun. Give those arcane mages the staff, least that's how it used to be.

@Flavio311291 2 ай бұрын

we used to 3 heal rag hc to only get 1 meteor in p4... handling 2 meteors and not spawning geysirs was impossible for my guild back then 😅

@alexd2249 2 ай бұрын

Feels a little like TOGC, but I kinda suspect this will be a ton of fun to speed run (feels a touch like Sunwell too maybe).

@rattlehead999 2 ай бұрын

Except ToGC is the worst raid ever while this one is one of the best.

@kingeh1 24 күн бұрын

This nerfed version of Rag is definitely less of a challenge than it used to be. 247 mill from 295 mill means a 50 million HP nerf it. if the boss submerges on 10% it means you deal with 30% of his max HP every phase, so on phase 3 you would need to deal with almost 90 million HP vs 74.1 mill right now. you have 135 seconds to deal with that from the beginning of the phase. According to your guide, with prolonging phase 2, you were able to down him to 36.5% before the intermission. this means that you took out 3.5% which is equal to around 8.5 million HP. if this was the un-nerfed version you'd have around 81.5 million HP to go in 135 secs. with 2 tanks and 4 healers, it leaves you with 19 DPSers that would need to be at around 29k single target DPS to meet the requirements for that phase. In the current version you played you needed an average dps of 23k to meet the requirements of P3. Basically, it's a 20% nerf to the phase. As for the rest of the phases, while p1 and 2 are simple and don't require anything too crazy, phase 4 was built on sweepers doing amazingly and not failing, and the group not fucking up geysers. the length of the fight was a massive challenge. It's a bit of a shame in my opinion we're getting the nerfed version in classic, however, considering the state of the game it's not really a big surprise. people got really tired of T11 and many left the game, and rag heroic was known as a massive guild destroyer back in the day due to the frustration it brought with the massive peak in challenge compared to the rest of the bosses in firelands. He will be a challenge in T11 gear and would still not be a walk in the park even in T12 for the average player. so it's fine to have him nerfed.

@Joardee 24 күн бұрын

@@kingeh1 they buffed rags HP actually! So he’s back to 290 - the p3 check is a lot tighter now

@kingeh1 24 күн бұрын

@ that’s great to hear! Do you know if the geyser is also back?

@Joardee 23 күн бұрын

@ it is not, no geyser (this is fine imo)

@4kMattyJ 2 ай бұрын

pummel's been real quiet since this dropped

@wokeamerica142 2 ай бұрын

So any idea when its actually coming out ?

@alexhelmberger7560 2 ай бұрын

Is the sheet already out for loot and raid set up ?

@ryananderson586 2 ай бұрын

Going in relatively blind and killing 3 heroics with most of us never seeing this raid before was…interesting. I don’t see a lot of prog this phase which leaves me wondering how long this content will keep people engaged. Will be nice for people farming staves but past that i feel like this phase will be short.

@getmeoffthisplanet4357 Ай бұрын

Good luck on rag lol

@scottsatkowiak2347 2 ай бұрын

wait r u back?

@chrisdavidson2810 2 ай бұрын

lol 30 pulls? 140+pulls! How long does that take? Guild I’m in gives up after 7-8 wipes

@rattlehead999 2 ай бұрын

find a nicer guild.

@Parrot1000 Ай бұрын

No its not hard. Cleared the raid on heroic as a child 13 years ago.

@De_Nome 2 ай бұрын

I am happy that the raid is easier because we are 12/13 HM and we have a very hard time filling even on Mankrik-US which is full of Horde since almost nobody wants to do nearly impossible RNG bosses anymore when they can have fun with SoD or Retail. This is also especially problematic when the content is rushed before MOP and not many players feel the incentive to try hard just to see their BIS gear becoming obsolete soon after.

@ArthasDKR 2 ай бұрын

Rock not rocking 😂

@jordick8427 2 ай бұрын

Personally I'm very disappointed on how Blizzard decided to go with the nerfed raid version. Especially that Ragnaros' P4 nerf makes that whole Phase significantly easier imo. I don't know. It's a known fact that Blizzard is making this expansion significantly shorter that the previous ones, but this is just ridiculous. It feels like they're intentionally making these raids easier, so that guilds can clear them much faster than originally. And with people clearing the content faster they're getting bored and requesting for the next raid. And Blizzard in all their grace decides to "listen to feedback" and grant them that new content and get showered with praises. My guess is that they're trying to rush this expansion, so that they can milk us dry with Pandaria in next year's Q1 or Q2.

@rattlehead999 2 ай бұрын

Lots of classic players struggled with Ulduar so anything harder than that is bad for the player base. Cata had the first ever subscription decline because it was too hard and 4.1 brought no new raid and only more heroic dungeons that a lot of people couldn't complete, so people started leaving back in the day. Especially when WoW got proper competition in 2011-2012.

@tamasnagy9235 2 ай бұрын

I think its not fair to compare Ragnaros (or cataclysm bosses in general) to Wotlk. The overall player skill level is higher and classes can do much more than they could back in wotlk, their toolkit is just better. Also in cataclysm tank oneshot mechanics are super rare, meanwhile LK 0 HC used to just oneshot tanks from 100% if he felt like it when the tanks still had heroic TOGC gear.

@andromidius 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, HLK felt unfair at times. Overall a great encounter that required coordination and good personal judgement - but that element of randomness was frustrating during progression.

@UnkownOwn 2 ай бұрын

man LK0 was the most fun fight ever. Hope blizzard fixes geyser on rag. would be a shame to get free kills once you reach P4

@nikolaykertev2457 2 ай бұрын

The tank one shots on LK HC was not just random. It was an actual thing that you should have kept in mind when fighting LK.

@tamasnagy9235 2 ай бұрын

@@nikolaykertev2457 You are contradicting yourself bro xD. It is not random but it can happen is what youre saying so what does that mean? It is random, crazy right?

@nikolaykertev2457 2 ай бұрын

@@tamasnagy9235 The interaction was between his melee and Soul Reaper. It was not a random thing that happens out of nowhere. I've seen multiple logs of it happening and it is literally the same shit over and over. Same way Algalon was one shotting tanks. It's just bad tanks. Perhaps you have, i dont know, a weird understanding of the word "random". Random means it can happen out of nowhere at any point. That's not the case here. It happens at exact period of time, before/after Soul Reaper. Same for Algalon, it happened when he had all his abilities lined up one after another and it was predictable af. This is the equivalent of saying "oh i know it can happen" or "i knew it would happen" but still didn't press that CD :D So are you sure you even know what you are talking about mate?

@Loregon 2 ай бұрын

So many nerf... Its full 4.3 version raid

@rattlehead999 2 ай бұрын

That's not a bad thing.

@getmeoffthisplanet4357 Ай бұрын

@badass6300 yes it is. Players are way better now then they used to be. They will plow through this content in one week and reclears will be awful after a month. They NEED to make it challenging.

@user-tr3wg7qd6h 2 ай бұрын

SPOILER ALERT!!! STAFF IS BOOMY PRIO!!!

@TheT0N1c 2 ай бұрын

Would be great if you gave blizz some actual feedback instead of sucking up to them every chance. Some major bugs like attonement crit range still persist after the awfull mess that was cata launch. This just shows blizz doesnt care about the Players. Even though they say they "value" player feedback, not having annouceded a plan for a faster acquisition of the legendary staff just shows a blatant disregard for players opinions and feelings. I would very much appreciate it if you made it clear to the devs that we wish for them to be actually held accountable instead of getting another copy paste "apology" when they not deliver.

@luisborges7239 2 ай бұрын

asda

@Ludydobry 2 ай бұрын

I bailed on Cata when it became gdkp fest

@patrickwiemer3388 2 ай бұрын

wasnt that on Wotlk alreading?

@Ludydobry Ай бұрын

@@patrickwiemer3388 i should have said Classic Cata, I stopped playing back in Wrath. I tried Classic Cata because i didnt play that expansion, its not for me.