Fireside Chat May 27th

I've decided. We are baby Warhammer.

[@Suhayl_Khatib]

I didn’t know we are on the 267th day of May lol.

[@emojothejojo]

The dark fluid is an old illuminate technology that Super Earth discovered at the end of the first galactic war according to both the democracy officer and service technician

[@oscarglad5284]

Where i live its may 28th, didnt know time zones changed so drastically that you're at may 267th

[@JebblesJunior]

Mistakes may have been made.

[@williamking331]

Yeah, they need to have like an info tab to help teach people about the more hidden or invisible stuff. I do agree with the portals change that is suggested. Ah yes, welcome to Warhammer! Your portable demon engine is to the left. I hope you love your stay! Nice thoughts on the lore change tho, couldn't agree more. But yes, do stick with the faction that you fine cool. You'll learn quite a bit about them and other factions from just them interacting with each other.

[@The_fastfreddy]

5:03 care to share that story XD

[@JebblesJunior]

Someday.

[@blehmeh9889]

4:50 I would be interested in seeing it implemented in the same capacity as the break-action shotgun: a "Civilian weapon" clutched in the hands of a dead civilian, found around the map and occupying your support weapon slot. I figure if these colonists have double barrel shotguns, they should also have bolt-action rifles. It should be made of wood and forged from iron (then again, the break action should be that way too, yet it's clearly all white and plasticy and metal so IDK).

[@JebblesJunior]

I would even be fine if they fashioned it into a break action rifle like a nitro.

[@jibskii1201]

The nurgle hate is unwarranted he actually loves his followers, I mean yeah we're putrid but we feel no pain and our plague father treats us like grandchildren

[@JebblesJunior]

In all fairness, I hate the rest as well.

[@onettresident]

may 267th 🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@tomyorke3412]

I own a Laslock for colonial planetary defense, just as the God Emperor intended. Complete with triangular bayonet, to charge any remaining rapscallions just as the god emperor intended. Tally ho lads!

[@insertnamehere6659]

I'm going to say it right now - Games Workshop doesn't deserve your money.

[@JebblesJunior]

Honestly, I've been flipping pages going on a week now, and they've not interfered in my interest at all. I'm far more concerned with the companies like saber interactive that are going to be designing the new game, as I've got no interest in the tabletop setting.

[@insertnamehere6659]

@@JebblesJunior That's fair. My biggest issues with GW are their insane model prices and their extremely hostile policies on fan-created content.

[@JebblesJunior]

@@insertnamehere6659 I can understand keeping tabs on fan stuff in efforts to keep lore straight. However, they are likely doing it for some fashion of monetary gain.

[@herosupport1606]

game workshop has basically said to its built in fanbase f off if you don't like our current day direction you wont be missed. from what I've heard about the lore the stuff before Slaanesh and other chaos entities took over the hobby was pretty fun.

[@JebblesJunior]

I see this ending in one of two ways. One, they backtrack, and things sort themselves out by the time I get invested enough to even know about what was going on. Two, some other, larger, gripe comes in and overshadows whatever they're doing before I'm able to get invested in the issue.

[@DropBear2099]

Congrats on dipping your toe into 40k. I would strongly suggest the audio book, Hellsreach. After that, I will almost guarantee you'll be one of us lol

[@Phillip_Viera]

AMR and DCS headshots are very satisfying

[@DiegoJimenez-mx4bk]

Did you beat that cow in a fist fight tho?

[@JebblesJunior]

We ended somewhere in a happy medium.

[@DiegoJimenez-mx4bk]

@@JebblesJunior Respectfully humble I see

[@Davernn]

Your comparison of Halo and Helldivers being mini-Warhammers is pretty true lmao

[@NoHands46]

One thing that I'll say is that if they do reduce patrol spawns when we get rid of outposts, then bot drops and bug breaches should be more severe. Someone suggested this change and while I can't remember their name, I think it would be a good change to make. Would be a good reason to not engage in patrols too

[@JebblesJunior]

I think it's a fine method to even things out like that. Maybe more time in between calls because it would take longer to burn through all those troops.

[@nelson8360]

I gazed at his magnificence, my vision completely filled with his glorious girth. All around me was flesh and smiling flies. Within his bulk I spied lesser minions, suckling on his leaking entrails. At his feet pools of pus and other bodily fluids gathered, in which his children splashed and played with glee. It was a blessing to behold such glory and joy. It was with great sadness that I awoke into a world filled with Imperial dogma and admonitions. I knew then the path I must walk. That doesn't appeal to you @Jebbles

[@JebblesJunior]

I hope someday you see error in your misdeeds, and atone for your heresy.

[@AzureIV]

Right now the game changes so rapidly that things flip incredibly IN JUST ONE WEEK! They are trying to play catch up on a timetable that is impossible to do with a small team. But they definitely need to fix planet decay rates, patrols/bases, and update every single gun that is under-performing to be at least semi-performing.

[@NicNewson]

lol! 😅the patrolling increasing as you complete missions is ridiculous lol 🤣, Why Arrowhead, just why?!

[@snipercommando9]

I definitely recommend Arch Warhammer (Now known as just Arch) for your Warhammer lore fix. His Siege of Vraks series is masterfully done.

[@GnarledStaff]

It makes sense that destroying objectives causes the enemy to bring in more forces as a response. However, I think there needs to be a different feel to those new forces. Instead of feeling like just a difficulty increase it should feel like the enemy is responding to the loss of those positions. I think part of the issue is how close the patrols spawn to the player. I think destroying the bases should make enemies spawn farther away. Maybe reduce bot drops/breaches and have patrols head directly from other bases instead of spawning around the player as much. That would allow the players to draw forces away from existing bases and manuever around enemy reinforcements in order to make the next objective easier. That would pair well with making main objectives harder. The risk is that many helldivers, especially new players, would stand and try and fight back the waves of forces investigating the lost outpost. That would lead to lots of deaths and disgruntlement because most people arent smart enough to just leave the area. The biggest complaint I’ve seen leveraged against other helldivers is their relationship unwillingness to disengage once a fight begins. I am certainly guilty of that as well. To combat that there would need to be some sort of information flow. Either a loading screen message that mentions enemies move from heavily defended positions towards destroyed outposts, or something in game that would telegraph this to new players. I also think the devs should group similar mission types within operations. Not necessarily the same mission type, but thematically similar. People who like one mission type often dislike the opposite type of mission and the operations feel like a random group of missions that has at least one type of mission someone on the team would rather not play. But if you grouped them… Let people choose whether to live out the fantasy of being a defender by selecting operations with defense oriented themes and gameplay. And let others live out the fantasy of being hit and run elite strike team by expertly taking out objectives before the enemy can respond with its full force. And let those who want to play as avengers rack up the kills in missions designed so that meeting the enemy head on is aligned with the mission objectives. Maybe add some flavor text to operations so they feel like one step in a larger war. Like an operation with defend assets, evacuate civilians and activate ICMB being framed as a defensive operation where the goal is to save what can be saved from a region and maybe hinder the enemy advance a bit. Where another operation with a 12 minute bughole/factory raid, and 2 destroy structure missions could be phrased as helldivers weakening enemy held areas before a major assault. Having an exterminate, ICBM, bug nest, etc operation could then be phrased as either the main assault or a distraction for the main assault… which could open up the operations to feel like they are connected to what other players are doing. This will also make it easier to come up with new types of missions as you figure out a theme and then add missions to fit into a that theme. Lots of potential here. For example, when the termicide stricture missions were added a lot of people didnt enjoy playing them in every operation. But having operations framed as drawing enemies away so others could activate the towers could have added a sense of meaning to the other missions while allowing those who did not want to raise the tower to feel like they were still part of the effort to do so and part of the team working towards the objective. Of course, I’m not sure how well these suggestions would work with game limitations and they would need to be adjusted for balance, but ai feel there are at least a couple useful ideas here.

[@Thunderray5687]

I was in a game with jebbs and he literally spewed Warhammer for 25-30 min straight. I later asked if he played the games or read the books and he said that he only watch a few videos over the last few days. Nice job jebbs. As of the extract talk that he was having he was still talking about warhammer

[@rollerfanboy]

yo helldivers and 40k. space marine 2 has been on my radar since its announcement. for super earth, for the god emperor of man kind.

[@ObliviousNaga]

Are you going to play the first Space Marine? It pretty good

[@JebblesJunior]

I'll be playing the new space marine game in september.

[@ObliviousNaga]

@@JebblesJunior it's the second one in the series but it's up to you

[@ionmedicaldesigns8122]

Pretty stoked for the new 40k game not gonna lie! I hope I can do my Iron Hands army - the flesh is weak 🤘

[@jalontf2]

FWIW I loved your loadout/archetype vids, they were inspiring. Recently developed "The Big Guns" - both mechs (need to equip with glitch), orbital laser, and HMG Emplacement

[@JebblesJunior]

I think I'll be doing something in regard to the mechs soon because I actually enjoy them.

[@michaelklim1971]

The chytac is awesome! I hope they do put something like that in the game

[@John-ii6he]

5:03 I would love to hear more about this, if it isn't too much of a bother one day.

[@JebblesJunior]

It may have an appearance in the future.

[@QuietFanOf40k]

Warhammer pog!!!

[@darkgravystains]

You believe what he said about grandpappy nurgle?

[@JebblesJunior]

I'll do it again.

[@Arcterran]

Per base busting, as somewhat of an objective capping/base assault specialist YES! Now for Warhammer (40k) good news is there's a lot of games here, some classics, some good, some not so good Personal recommendations are, Space Marine 1 being one of the most slept on character action games ever, Dawn of War 1 and 2 and their expansions (1's Dark Crusade ESPECIALLY) are RTS classics, and Mechanicus is a weird turn based strategy game with one of the best soundtracks ever There's also fantasy, personally I like Vermintide 2 over Darktide despite it being the closest thing I'll get to being in the shoes of a guardsman (Guard being my favorite 40k faction) and Total Warhammer has a STUPID amount of content and basically covers nearly all of WH fantasy Personally per tabletop the models are too pricey to really justify, Especially as someone who loves the guard which requires a stupid amount of models in both amount and to be viable (they are a horde army after all!), I've drifted around systems and found a few I like, but finding playerbases for em is a pain so I left Tabletop gaming as its basically 40k, historical oldbeards (nothing against these guys!), or Uber niche titles.

[@JebblesJunior]

From the angle I'm currently taking it's likely going to be around September that I start with the new space marines games.

[@Arcterran]

@@JebblesJunior Sounds good! (I also forgot to mention I'm also not a fan of the tabletop rules too, its....convoluted and I'm not a fan of its pacing)

[@jeremyharris3616]

I've always looked at the spawn and patrol rates after the primary objective is completed as the enemy in the immediate surrounding area of the planet responding to the chaos you're creating as opposed to anything else. As a team you are in such a small section of the planet, but the enemy is far more numerous than you are. I think it makes sense and it's one of the easiest ways to represent it.

[@JebblesJunior]

For me I consider them more slowly mobilized forces. I do think it's fair enough they increase upon completion of the main objectives even if I'm not fond of it. I want there to be more of a point to breaking outposts instead of a detriment to the squad. They could in future design patrol rates around liberation or defense percentage.

[@jeremyharris3616]

@@JebblesJunior That right there: designing patrol rates around liberation or defense percentage is a fantastic idea! I would love to see that.

[@arepupu]

I really like listening to your videos, they're nice!

[@NicNewson]

WTF is a NERGLE?🤨

[@JebblesJunior]

Look, all you need to know is that he ain't right in the head.

[@QuietFanOf40k]

Nurgle is kinda weird, but slanesh is weirder. Papa nurgle loves you both, Nic and Jebbles. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!! Khorne is the best.

[@Somethinorother.]

yeeeeeah bolt action woooooo

[@Zarken26]

I am also looking forward to Space Marine 2 & hoping its going to be good. I am a long time fan of Warhammer 40k and have to say it has one hell of an interesting setting. Regarding gatekeeping you wouldn't need to be concerned with that, the only people genuine Warhammer fans are trying to keep out of the hobby are politically obsessed woke cultists who keep trying to force their politics in to the hobby & then gatekeep out the existing fanbase by demonising them. There are some really good lore channels out there, my favourite is Arch he does really good Warhammer & Warhammer 40k lore content. If you think Nurgle is bad, take a look in to Slaanesh lol.

[@JebblesJunior]

Honestly my only regret in this video is revising it and taking out Slaanesh because she was right next to him. I think her followers are just despicable horny.