Fireworks license atf type 54 how to fill out the application

[@YessahBlessah608]

Got my type 54! This past new years we rocked the neighborhood in Florida at my cousins place! Was a good way to welcome us back into the New Years here in America after a long deployment in Afghan! Brother thank you for all your help. Type 54 was so easy to get! Pyro on everyone!

[@fynn8252]

That's awesome man! Mine won't be until later this year but all is looking good. I hope you are enjoying the freedom you fight for :) Thank you for your service!

[@MrAdambomb88]

did you get a mag or find storage? if so where at I am having trouble with that in central FL

[@YessahBlessah608]

@@davidmelo4771 yes. I called them and asked if i could. Most places that sell 1.3g will let you because they want your business

[@YessahBlessah608]

@@davidmelo4771 can u talk? Can i call u bro? I will discuss

[@YessahBlessah608]

@@davidmelo4771 short answer is NO no license needed

[@AF3PYRO]

I really appreciate you making this video. You made it easy for guys like me who aren't particularly good at filling out paperwork. Thanks brother.

[@fireworksphill6640]

No problem! When I was searching for information, there was nothing out there for free. I had to figure it out on my own. I decided to make this video so there was at least one free method out there!

[@k-boomfireworksdisplay1380]

Phil... thank for all your help and I received my type 54 license last week. Again, thank you and appreciate it a lot!

[@fireworksphill6640]

That's Great! Now the fun begins! I decided when I got mine, to make the 2 video's. How to get your license, and how to fill out the forms. It bothered me that some people claim to teach and help others about everything pyro, then wanted to charge you for information on how to get your license. Really?! Glad to hear about your success story!

[@nellynelly3609]

@@fireworksphill6640 hey phil im new to all this firework stuff so i was wonsering if you could help me.. i reside in florida so i dont know where i could get 1.3g fireworks like you can with ace since their located up north.. so i dont know who to put for contingency plan i tried looking at the storage site but it was confusing me was wondering if you could shed more light for me im trying to get mine before new years so any help would be appreciated thank you for your time!

[@fireworksphill6640]

@@nellynelly3609 try this link for storage: angryunicornimports.com/angry-unicorn-imports-1-3g-fireworks-storage/ When I was looking I just googled 1.3 fireworks in Michigan. I just did the same thing here. 1.3 fireworks in Florida.

[@eugeneharris838]

@@fireworksphill6640 wow i agree. All these pyro clubs offer to help you but just want money when you could just do it yourself. Im very happy i found this video cause i am going to do one way more in depth and visual for people who want to see how its done. Thanks again for this

[@kennycruz7757]

I put in my application last month I wonder how long it would take for them to contact me ?

[@YessahBlessah608]

Very helpful! I just printed out form and didn’t even know how the heck to fill it out! Came across this video and helps big time! Thank you so much. Shout out from Wisconsin! Can’t wait to get this going 1.3g here I come!

[@fireworksphill6640]

Good Deal! I decided to make a couple of videos after I received my license in order to help others. When I was looking for information, There really wasn't anything out there. I did find on guy who said he was all about fireworks and wanted to help others that were interested. When it came down to getting information about getting your license, He then wanted to charge for the information. That was why I made these videos. This way I hoped there would be others I could help. No charge. Hope all goes well for you.

[@YessahBlessah608]

fireworksphill thanks brother! I just got my photo from Walgreens today gonna fill out paperwork tomorrow. If all is well I will gladly send some nice cakes your way!!

[@fireworksphill6640]

@@YessahBlessah608 better yet, light them cakes off and post the videos! that way we can all enjoy them!

[@YessahBlessah608]

@@fireworksphill6640any videos on renewing license? Mine expires january next year

[@YessahBlessah608]

@@fireworksphill6640hey brother hope all is well. Just had a few questions on how renewal works and how itd work if you bought a new house

[@ronsokolowski1314]

1. The job box..what did you do to improve it to the atf regulations? 2. If you are storing more than 50 pounds or the particular 1.3g arent 50 pounds but are big or bulky and don't all fit in 1 box are you aloud to have more than 1 job box? 3 also mine will be outside so do i need it bolted down or is it ok to be on dirt? 4.it's in the open so do i need it hidden in another regular shed? 5 As far as distances it says 150 feet all around but you had yours 100 feet so are they leniant in that? A. So i live next to an empty feild, but it has a baseball diamond next to house of feildside but it is rarely used anymore. Job box will be in the northeast corner of my backyard. Feild is on the north and baseball diamond is on the west feild side but on the northside of the house the feild also has the airport on northside of the feild but distance is far from backyard. Theres a park on east side of the feild. And theres a hill going downhill to east and the street on the bottom of the hill where cars park for park and house next to park. The other sides are the front of house facing west and patio and garage next to backyard facing south with neighbors yard on southside of the garage. 6. Do you think they will be aggresive on the distances as far as the baseball diamond park and parking for tge park at bottom of hill. 7. Do you think it matters near a airport? 8. So the question is they aloud yours at 100 feet bexause maybe you have a lot of land even though it says its supose to be 150 feet but mine is not going to be the same all around with 2 sides maybe being good but with airport and park on otgerside and patio garage and house being in way of othersides Do you think theyll still be ok seeing hiw i dont think ill being storing them all year just before 4th and if i dont use for some reason ill either light tgem off somwe day after that or store until new years but definitely wont be stored all year until 4th the next year? 9. What are the state and city permits or munical places i need to check on...i live in wisconsin? 10. Also what are distances for lighting them off safely or minimun safe distance and with 1.3 can they break windows if there close ? 11. how do i fill out paperwork if they are being fired off in to different addresses and city with same countys just stored at 1 address...do i need a job box at other address as well or can i just bring them over the night of the shoot? 12. Does a person also need a insurance to light off 1.3 the otger address is in a non gated but couldrasack type area of holmes with certain rules...do i need permision from them as well or give notice of risk we already shoot fireworks tgere for past 10 years so they know and the blocks around shoot stuff off anyways but kind of worried on spectators houses safety plus we light on a walk path that borders a pond. The pond is a oval that is in middle with pathway arouns all of it with all the houses back yard on all sides of the pond? 13. Do i need to fill out on aplication for license that i may shoot off in 2 different places or is it only for buying transporting and where ill be storing?

[@tylertacy6991]

thank you so much for taking the time to go through his, very detailed. there's very little info out there especially anything made in the past 5 years. Will probably apply for the license after the 4th this year. thanks again!

[@fireworksphill6640]

My Pleasure! I wanted to be able to help other people get theirs without having to pay money for the help. After all, if every one was to help one another rather than be consumed by greed, the world would be a better place! In this case, maybe more people will be able to enjoy our passion of fireworks as well. Every time I light something off I can't help but crack up. It never fails to make me smile.

[@tylertacy6991]

@@fireworksphill6640 really appreciate it! My face lights up to every time a shell blows up in the air I love it.

[@Ab-iz9uv]

If I’m in California will the type 54 work for me or is California different from the rest?

[@gregwalker7105]

Thank you very much🙏 I’m in Columbus Ohio and filling out paperwork ASAP. Would love to connect.

[@joseramirez-cj2fn]

Thank you I've been trying to get mine for awhile

[@fireworksphill6640]

No Problem. I posted this to hopefully help others. Initially I couldn't find this kind of information out there unless you paid for it. Once I went thru the process, I decided to see if I could help others understand the process and maybe dispel any fears one might have. Good Luck, hope all goes well for you.

[@sting1111]

This is an excellent video. The only questions I have are about setting up a magazine for inside storage.

[@fireworksphill6640]

Basically make sure that it is lined with a non sparking material, secured in some manner that it just can't be carried away, use the proper locks and have it inspected.

[@libertyfireworks3416]

Great helpful video. I'm in process of getting my ATF permit and state license to shoot 1.3. Tell me more about the magazine you referenced in your video. Which one did you purchase, what kind of lock, and more info on the paint.

[@fireworksphill6640]

This is the box I used for my magazine. www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-48-in-x-24-in-Universal-Storage-Chest-48R-OS/300748574 I used flex seal rubber paint. It ended up being more expensive than other options, but it was what I had so I used it. Basically it just needs to be a non sparking protective coating. One guy used truck bed liner stuff. You can put the box anywhere except in your house. There are no table of distances for safety with the indoor magazine. You can only store up to 50# of pyro weight at any given time. The locks must have at least a 3/8" diameter shackle, and the have to be at least a 5 tumbler lock or more. most stores only stock 3 and 4 tumblers, so it will most likely be a special order. The job box instruction tell you the shackle height. To tall of shackle and it won't lock the box. I did a video a while back about answering 1.3 questions. kzbin.info/www/bejne/imibdXiXiN9mj8U This video goes over some of the forms and paperwork required for your 1.3 purchases and storage forms.

[@nativepride4491]

Am I allowed to have a magazine and a ATF FEL TYPE 54 License in the state of California?

[@RWD1993]

Working on my application now. Wish me luck!

[@fireworksphill6640]

Good Luck my friend!

[@ciphercraft6176]

How did it go? Got your license yet?

[@rblacktips1]

Is a shipping container consider magazine ll

[@Ottospfx]

Yes

[@patriotdrone9566]

The ATF type 54 application asks for local/state permit numbers before issuing you a permit. To get a local permit in the state of North Carolina you have your ATF Type 54 permit before applying. Talk about a catch 22. They won't give you an answer as how to circumvent this also. I guess you have would have to get your ATF 54 in another state before applying in NC for local permits? This is wild.

[@damonhooper8387]

DO you know what the difference is between the 2012 app and the revised app in november 2018?

[@ronsokolowski1314]

Does the license allow you to buy outsude of us and import to be shipped to your address or import to pjck up and transport

[@geoplays2225]

I am also having trouble figuring out the local and state laws needed for actually using these. I am currently in Oregon and am having trouble getting a clear answer on this. The other thing is do I have to add the people/business involved in my contingency plan on the responsible person(s) page?

[@fireworksphill6640]

to the best of my knowledge, you do not need to add the business that will do your contingency storage as they are already licensed to do so. The responsible persons is for yourself and anyone else that you want to be able to handle the fireworks for you. These are people who may have to handle the fireworks, but do not have the type 54 for purchasing. The type 54 license is for purchasing product only.

[@fireworksphill6640]

Here is a link I found. It appears to me that you need to take a safety course, and also get permits to shoot off your 1.3 product. They do allow you to light of some types of retail or consumer fireworks. This link should answer your questions: www.oregon.gov/osp/programs/sfm/Pages/Fireworks.aspx

[@dariuskittle007]

If I’m starting a firework small business selling fireworks do I need this ATF? Or any license at that

[@jimfisher9749]

I just got my fingerprints card done...i have a 2x2 pic also....when i go to mail it out should i put a money order in the envelope?....This is my first time applying for this....I also live in michigan.....Where do i mail the envelope to?....Any help is greatly appreciated.

[@ronsokolowski1314]

Do i have to get permision from an airport to shoot off in a feild thats next to the airport...even if the runway is further out from feild and they only come in landing that way

[@vanessasanchez4216]

Does anyone know if you need a permit or license for California ?

[@ronsokolowski1314]

If i get my atf for 1.3 do i need another license to purchase 1.4 pro line or will the other firework retailers that sell and ship 1.4 pro alow me to use ny atf license

[@brianvasey5492]

Hey Phil thanks for the great info. What if we do not have access to a magazine, and we just drive to pick up the fireworks, and light them off? Can we leave this blank?

[@fireworksphill6640]

That is what most people do. The place you buy them from will store them for you until you are ready to shoot them off. That is whats called "contingency storage". I would contact a seller of 1.3 fireworks in your area. Tell them you are applying for your license and you will need a letter of contingency storage. On the application, you mark contingency storage. Do not leave it blank. I did an internet search for 1.3 fireworks in my area. That is how I found my supplier.

[@curtislitsair1093]

Hey Phil, quick question... On question 22b of the application, I am planning on getting a magazine (Job box) but I do not have one yet. I can go out and get one tomorrow, if I need to. Also, I have yet to reach out to any places, to see if they can offer contingency and I live in South Carolina. Should my answer to 22b be a 1 and then go and get the job box and get it up to par for the ATF inspection and would you happen to know how I could find the nearest places for contingency storage? Thanks in advance!

[@fireworksphill6640]

Hi Curtis. I would locate a distributor. You can try to do a search for 1.3 distributors near you. Every 1.3 distributor should have contingency storage since they are already storing the product. The ATF will ask you where you will be purchasing from. They will also want a letter from the distributor that will show them you can store product there. Even if you have your indoor magazine, you will still need to buy them some where. A lot of times when I do searches for 1.3 product, there are very few places to buy. So far, I have purchased in Michigan and Indiana. TO find a distributor, I can suggest A) search the internet, B) Find a pyrotechnics club, then ask them. Some one in the club will know. C) try getting a hold of the ATF, as they are the ones regulating as well as inspecting all the documents for purchasing and selling. the 1.3 distributors will be in their system. As far as the magazine goes, it is nice to have it since you can store up to 50 lbs of pyro weight in it. It could save you hours of driving just to get product back to contingency. If you choose that route, you will also need to submit you plans for the magazine. You will need to draw a map of your property, make sure to show the street and all buildings on the property. It will need to have dimensions on it as well. You will need to show ho far away the buildings are from the street, how far apart they are, how far from your lot lines, etc. you will also need to notate where you plan on putting the magazine.

[@curtislitsair1093]

@@fireworksphill6640 Thanks Phil! I was calling around yesterday and I got ahold of a pyro company that puts on shows. He told me that you also need to have a CDL, which I do and your hazmat endorsement, if you're ever transporting 1.3, even if it's one shell. I guess it's not an ATF thing but rather, a DOT thing. He said that you can get arrested by the DOT, if you get caught transporting 1.3, without proper licensing and placards. He then, suggested that I work for him, since they need technicians and that I wouldn't have to even get the ATF type 54 license, or any of that. Since he has all the proper licensing and insurance already, I could fall under his umbrella and be legal. Just curious on what your thoughts are. Also, I don't think that I can have an explosives magazine at my home, since I live in a neighborhood with an HOA. My house is small so, no room inside and I have neighbors all around me, so I don't think an outside magazine would get approved, where I live currently and I don't think the ATF would want me to have the magazine on any property that I don't own, like my friend's property where I do my shows every year. I do like the idea of a pyro group and I'm going to look for one. Thanks again Phil!

[@benbeck3277]

Just to be clear since I’m in the process of getting a 1.3g firework license I wanted to ask a few questions.It seems like a magazine is optional as long as you have contingency storage.Does the ATF interview you after turning in your paperwork? And do you submit a email to your 1.3g provider approving you for contingency storage?Sorry about all the questions I just want to make sure I’m doing things correctly.

[@EngineerCatPyro]

Yes if you can't have an on prem magazine, you get a contingency letter from the place you plan on purchasing your 1.3g fireworks from. Just shoot them an email explaining your submiting the paperwork to obtain your Type 54 and will be looking to purchase product from them once approved. Send that letter in with your application. This is a very easy process as the vendor is always looking for new customers to sell to so they have no problem sending you the letter to provide to the ATF. Yes the ATF will schedule a visit to your home to interview you in person.

[@grillingwithwoos]

What are the requirements for type 4 storage if it’s inside a shed. Does it need to be a set distance from day a house? I’m on a standard 8500sq ft city lot

[@fireworksphill6640]

indoor magazines, type 4, have no tables of distance. They just can not be stored in your residence

[@ronsokolowski1314]

So are you aloud the next day to bring back to a contengincy storage . If the fireworks place is closed after you take them and dont shoot and have to go to work in morning are you ok Is it 24 hours from the time you pick it up...or is it 24 hours meaning i picked it up at 8pm monday and you have to have it there on tuesday But what if because 4th and there closed What if you pick it up 9am dont light it go to work in morning get out at 30m and then return it still ok even though it more than 24as more like 31

[@playakam]

Thanks for the walkthrough without the price I appreciate it. Also a Michigander and was wondering if you have to meet them before you get the license and if so where would that be?

[@fireworksphill6640]

After you send your application in, you will be contacted for an interview. In my case I was contacted by an atf agent 20 days after mailing in my application. The atf agents came to my house for the interview. Here is a link to the first video I did of the whole process. kzbin.info/www/bejne/on_GYnuMp6hjg5Y

[@playakam]

fireworksphill awesome thanks I seen it took a hour and a half long I wonder if it will be the same with all this going on. I’ll have to do some more reading up on the laws. What questions did they ask that might have stumped you?

[@benjaminbeck6378]

fireworksphill I plan on getting mine in two years once I turn 21.I actually am saving up a lot of money so that in two years I can put on a big fireworks show.

[@fireworksphill6640]

@@playakam Not many questions. Some of the time was just going over my application. There were a couple of things I left blank because it did not pertain to my situation. They had me fill it in with N/A, then initial it. Most of their time was informing me of the atf laws, office paperwork, things of that nature. They did ask every so often, why I wanted my license. they asked me that a few times. I was honest, I just wanted to buy some better fireworks for the 4th of July shoot. Nothing that would stump you.

[@fireworksphill6640]

@@benjaminbeck6378 That's exactly what I did! I already had my fireworks purchased for the year, or so I thought. I received my license then spent a few grand more!

[@HopeandSomeHandTools]

Great video thank you!

[@Lumber_pyro]

Could I still apply if Ariel’s are illegal where I live?

[@fireworksphill6640]

yes. the license is strictly for purchasing product. It has nothing to do with shooting them off.

[@HiighzmenPyro510]

I’m in California, where do I look for a contingency plan? Or can I just put the jobsite box in my shed? They do not explain too much or I’m just a little slow lol

[@fireworksphill6640]

Contingency storage will be from the place that you will be buying the fireworks from. I did a jobsite box in my shed. I painted the inside of it with a non sparking material, and bolted it to the floor. I also had to fill out the "magazine" section of the application. Once the ATF agents inspect and authorize your job box, they will give it identification numbers. after that, you can use it.

[@geoplays2225]

how much did your explosive magazine cost, I have seen them priced around 10,000 - 25,000 dollars online, seems expensive

[@fireworksphill6640]

I paid about $300 for it. It is nothing more than a construction site job box for storing tools on the job. It is considered a type 4, indoor magazine. I am limited to 50 lbs of pyro weight. Pyro weight is the weight of just the explosive powder. I painted the inside of it with a rubber paint and purchased the appropriate locks for it. It is only rated for low explosives. Here is a link to the one that I used. It currently is listed for about $400 www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-48-in-W-x-24-in-D-x-28-5-in-H-Universal-Storage-Chest-RB48/317120115

[@gregwalker7105]

Thanks for this 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@denniswm81]

Helped a lot thanks. Waiting for my call

[@fireworksphill6640]

Good deal! Keep me posted! I don't agree with charging others for helping. Once you get it, your going to be like a kid in a candy store! When I touched off my first 1.3 shell, it was a salute, and I couldn't stop laughing!

[@jonnyblazee1558]

What city ?? I’m in Cali trying to get my license

[@denniswm81]

I'm in Illinois and I forgot to keep you posted lol. But I've had my license for a year now.

[@chipilsen4817]

ight imma head out is it hard to get I live in Illinois as well Chicago

[@denniswm81]

@@chipilsen4817 no it was pretty easy

[@tylertacy6991]

Oh Phill if you don't mind I do have a question. Still learning everything. So after you obtain your license and have a ATF approved storage spot. Is a permit required every time you wish to use any 1.3 product or is it just some 1.3 product like larger shells?

[@fireworksphill6640]

depends on where you plan on shooting. I live in Michigan, and Michigan is pretty lenient. Michigan does not require safety certificates or shooters license to shoot. most states do. you will have to check with the local authorities for where you want to shoot. I would start with checking your state laws. then with the local municipalities of where you want to shoot. I have acreage, since I shoot on my own property, I am not required to get a permit to shoot. If I shoot any where else, I would be required to get a permit, which then would require insurances, safety plans, authorized help (atf approved personnel) as you will have more than yourself touching the explosives. Any one touching a 1.3 product has to be authorized by the atf. The permit would be for all 1.3 product. Last time I priced insurance, it was about $2400.00 for 24 hr period. That was based off of the fireworks I planned on lighting, and the fact that is was in the country on my own acreage.

[@tylertacy6991]

@@fireworksphill6640 really appreciate the response and how in depth it was. I'm your neighbor in Ohio, I've been looking into it a little more and saw some stuff about the safety plans and insurance etc. I'll have to make some calls and see what's required for me. Thanks again for your time!

[@77chrysler]

@@fireworksphill6640 Hey Phil just curious, I’m from MI and last I checked being on your own private property doesn’t exempt you from needed a permit from you local jurisdiction to shoot?? Correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s my understanding? I’m which case you would still be required to carry the appropriate insurance?

[@TrevorPotjer]

@@77chrysler I’m thinking youre right. Called Wolverine Pyro today and asked. They said you need one no matter where you are in Michigan.

[@paul9290]

I imagine this would be very difficult to obtain as a hobbyist living in IL.

[@fireworksphill6640]

Nope. It is very easy to obtain your type 54 license. You fill out the application, attach a passport picture, along with your fingerprint cards and payment. Many people think it is difficult. I thought so. One day I just decided to go for it. Glad I did. It turned out to be so easy. This is a federal license, so it is good in all the states.

[@rickreiff6750]

Thanks for making this video! Did you sign your original permit when you received it? Or just sign copies of it? I have heard people say not to sign the original only sign copies, not sure which is right or wrong to do?

[@fireworksphill6640]

I did not sign my original. Reason being if you sign the original, then you are not signing it in the presence of the supplier that you are registering with. Technically when you buy your product, you are supposed to sign it in their presence. Not sure if it really matters since you also have to give them a photo id as well. Every vendor that you purchase 1.3 product from will require a signed copy of your type 54 license as well as a copy of your photo id.

[@rickreiff6750]

@@fireworksphill6640 Thanks for the verification!!

[@jaunrico5]

When I applied it didn’t have the same address in your video. It’s said “ Portland OR” on my application is that the same??

[@fireworksphill6640]

I would guess that the atf probably has "regions". I would follow the instructions on where to mail it

[@stevensimonetta4160]

Hey Phil I’m in Indiana….do I need state’s licenses to shoot 1.3? If so what really is the point of getting it if you have to pay more fee’s just to shoot them?

[@fireworksphill6640]

You will have to check with your state and local authorities to see what is required. A lot of states require safety training as well as a shooters license. Your local restrictions may require a safety plan, fireworks insurance and possibly a show permit. The type 54 license is only good for purchasing your product. That is it. It is very expensive to legally shoot 1.3 product. However, if your into it, I would suggest joining a fireworks club if you have one near by. They typically will do various shoots per year, they make sure everything is legal. You can usually shoot your product off then.

[@therealdoodle]

The application has a Responsible Persons form with b) being "Position at Business"... What if I am just a hobbyist and do not own a business, what would be recommended to put in that box?

[@fireworksphill6640]

At 8:45 in the video, it goes through every box and what to put in there.

[@therealdoodle]

@@fireworksphill6640 I watched the full video and for you since you are an owner it's kind of a no brainer but I do not own a business or have a position at a company that deals with fireworks so that's where my confusion is. I was thinking I could just put Hobbyist in that box... what have others put there?

[@silentdragon162]

So when atf do their random surprise visit. What is it like? Esp if your doing contigency storage. Like r the entering your home do they ever do that?

[@fireworksphill6640]

I have not had a surprise visit yet. My license came up for renewal this year, and just like the first time, the ATF agent contacted me and set up a meeting. The original meeting, they came out and we did the meeting in my dining room. The second meeting, (for the renewal), they came out and we actually had the meeting in my garage! I just went into my office and brought out all the paperwork they wanted to see. pretty painless. The second meeting was pretty much the same as the first. My second meeting was actually early November, over 3 months before the actual renewal. My renewed license came about 2 weeks before my old one expired.

[@silentdragon162]

@@fireworksphill6640 thank you for your help and time to reply!

[@socalpyro562]

What questions are asked in the interview?

[@fireworksphill6640]

They really didn't ask me that many questions as I assumed my back ground was already vetted before my interview. They did ask several times why I wanted to get my license. I was just honest and told them I wanted it to be able to enhance my personal fireworks show that I do on the 4th of July. The bulk of the interview was reviewing the explosive's laws, going over the paperwork required, storage, things of that nature. I have a clean past so very few questions.

[@chipilsen4817]

Is it hard to get if I live in Illinois

[@chipilsen4817]

Also If I get approve I will have the storage in a basement at my in laws house will that be fine?

[@fireworksphill6640]

@@chipilsen4817 It is a federal license, and is considered a "shall issue" license. Basically the way I understand it is that when you get vetted and interviewed, it is to determine if they need to deny you a license, which is different than approving some one for a license. By that I mean if you were not to receive one, it would be because of a felony or something like that. Approval is different in the respect that you would need to have training and pass testing to get one. I had no training and they did not test for anything. I received my license and then took safety training.

[@fireworksphill6640]

​@@chipilsen4817 You will not be allowed to store any fireworks inside of a house or living quarters. They have to be stored in an atf approved storage magazine. There a certain laws that must be followed for storage. All laws regulating fireworks are in the 2012 explosives laws. here is a link to a download version of the laws. www.atf.gov/explosives/docs/report/publication-federal-explosives-laws-and-regulations-atf-p-54007/download

[@kurtsutherland8803]

Hi Phil, I am currently working on my class 54. I had a question for you.. I am currently located in Michigan - question is: do you need to have a permit to fire 1.3 from local townships etc? I am not doing anything big just putting on a better show for friends and family.

[@fireworksphill6640]

I shoot on the 4th of July, on my own property. If you are on public property, you are supposed get a permit, which then will require notifying the local authorities as well as the local fire dept. You will need fireworks insurance, set up plan as well as a safety plan. All that gets really expensive. just the insurance alone will be a few thousand just for 24 hours.

[@MetalHeadPyro510]

What if you have a felony resisting arrest charge 10 years ago but got an expungement and have not had any police contact since your arrest? You think ATF will care about that? I basically cleaned up my act and just want to attain a permit so I dont have to pay a $1000.00 fine every 4th of July. I hate it here in California. ☹

[@fireworksphill6640]

I would definitely apply. Just be honest about everything. Right now, you do not have it. What's the worst thing that could happen?.............they say no and you don't have it. Yes it is harder to get with a felony, but not impossible. Like I said, I would apply. You never know unless you try. Once you fill out the application, they will have to follow thru the process. Just be polite during any contact with them. "Yes sir, or ma'am. No sir or ma'am." When they come out and interview you in person, it definitely helps if you, your clothes, your living arrangements are clean. Part of being a licensee is good house keeping. I.e. especially if you get a magazine. It is in the code book to keep your storage area clean and free of hazards.

[@MetalHeadPyro510]

@@fireworksphill6640 wouldnt I have a better chance obtaining one in georgia as opposed to California where all fireworks are prohibited?

[@fireworksphill6640]

@@MetalHeadPyro510 It's a federal license. they will send some one from the closest atf location. My application was sent to Georgia, but the atf agent came from the Detroit area for my interview

[@MetalHeadPyro510]

@@fireworksphill6640 That's funny because I'm moving to georgia soon where I plan to submit my application. 👍🏻

[@FrankieC922]

Hey phill. I’m in pa and I have a medical marijuana card. Does that exclude me from get my class 54?

[@fireworksphill6640]

Sorry, I do not know the answer to that one. If I understand things correctly, would mean that In Pa, there was a state law passed allowing for medical marijuana. There for the state says it's legal, but the federal government still recognizes it as illegal. Although I'm not sure, my gut tells me that since the type 54 license is a federal license, they would also look at the state law as a federal violation, however one of those laws that the federal government just isn't enforcing. That being said, my understanding is also that the type 54 license is a "shall issue" license. By that I mean when interviewed, they are not looking to interview for the license, rather they are looking for things to deny you the license. Not sure if they would see that as a reason for denial or not. One way to find out, is to contact them and ask them directly.

[@carlrapp6075]

I live in New York State and my wife and I plan to start a business doing fireworks displays is I'm thinking this permit will not work what else do we need , ins , container , license etc.?

[@fireworksphill6640]

This license is to purchase 1.3 professional fireworks. Most states, (but not all), require a state license to shoot, which will entail proof of insurance for your shoot, and atf approved storage if you can not set up and shoot the same day. There are many safety protocols to follow when ever you shoot. Some states require proof of safety classes as well.

[@jonnyblazee1558]

Do you think they are still accepting application due to what’s going on right now ?

[@fireworksphill6640]

I would guess they are. Don't forget, you are mailing the information in. I have to believe the atf would be in the essential category. What may get delayed would be your actual interview. However if they follow the covid 19 guidelines, wearing a mask and keeping social distancing, you may still get an interview. If not, your information will already be vetted and just waiting for your interview.

[@armandocr786]

Would I be able to get my atf license if I’m in California?

[@fireworksphill6640]

Absolutely. it is a federal license. Keep in mind that the type 54 license allows you to purchase 1.3 fireworks. That's it. Doesn't mean you can light them off. I believe in California you will also need to take a safety course as well as a shooters course and get certified to be able to legally shoot them off. I would research your local municipality for proper certification needs to legally shoot them off.

[@fireworksphill6640]

@@geejay7118 California has to have some place to buy 1.3 fireworks. When the city does the displays, they are 1.3 product. I would check with some fire stations as a lot of times they do displays. They will most likely be on display shoots for fire safety and there for should be able to direct you to a local company.

[@welcome2cali946]

@@fireworksphill6640 does This mean if i buy other fireworks 1.3 .1.4 items from different state i can bring them back to California such as Minnesota or north dakota and bring them back to California if i have a storage

[@fireworksphill6640]

@@welcome2cali946 If you have your personal atf approved storage, you can. I do it. I have an indoor magazine that was approved by the ATF. I can store up to 50 pounds of pyro weight in it. Roughly figured is 25% of cake weight, of 50% of shell weight. So if you have 100 pounds of cakes, then 25 pounds would be considered pyro weight. If you have 100 pounds of shells, then you would have 50 pounds of pyro weight. If you have ATF approved storage that is not an indoor magazine, that weight jumps up greatly. But, the requirements for that type magazine requires distances, special construction, etc. It's a little more involved than an indoor magazine.

[@chipilsen4817]

I live in Chicago Illinois is it hard to get

[@fireworksphill6640]

no. it is very easy. just follow the video.

[@RedOne91]

You're in MI?

[@RedOne91]

🤦🏾‍♂️ Still watching video... You're

[@fireworksphill6640]

yes

[@RedOne91]

@@fireworksphill6640 getting my ducks in a row right now.

[@k-boomfireworksdisplay1380]

Are you owner business for ace pyro? As u know, I been working for pyrotechnics for three as exhibitior assistant. I m plan doing get my own show in my hometown for next year but will it hard to get on type license?!

[@fireworksphill6640]

No, I'm just a customer of Ace Pyro. I called them one day and talked to them about getting my license. They told me about their site, and that they had a sample application filled out. I went to the site, followed their directions, and got my license. Very simple process. Most people don't realize how easy the process really is. Basically, you send for your fingerprint cards, get finger printed, Usually a sheriffs dept will do it. get a 2in x 2in passport photo, fill out the application with payment, send everything off, and you'll get a call from the Atf, get interviewed, and get your license. Once you get your license, you can purchase pro fireworks, However, you will most likely need to get permits and authorizations for shooting off the fireworks.

[@k-boomfireworksdisplay1380]

@@fireworksphill6640 thank you for clear up. I hope I get it the license. I ll doing get permit once when I get license first. And also, I apply for exhhititor license, too.. not assistant since I been for three year on exhibitior assistant..

[@bryannicely2506]

Dumb question i know ahouldnt ask but what if ur a felon for something stupid... just say no i cant lol