LOVELY bit of film. We too often admire clips of these magnificent machines in action without offering proper tribute to the skill and very hard work of the fireman that made it possible. The split screen, showing both the train in motion and the work on the footplate, is a most effective presentation. Oh yes and back in the steam days, the "runners" would only have one fireman. He probably wouldn't work the doors, but would have to lift and lower the flap which covered about half the opening, as well as seeing to the water feed, dragging coal forward on the tender as necessary, watering it to keep the dust down and a lot of other jobs. True heroes.
@graemebdh21723 жыл бұрын
I found the explanations of what was happening most interesting. Thanks.
@markbasaj68203 жыл бұрын
@Judson Dash WOAH THATS CRAZY! I DONT CARE
@steamgent45923 жыл бұрын
Just got to LOVE the sure footedness of GWR locos even the big driver locos!! Its alot like the sure-footedness of American steam heavyweights only these are more beautiful pieces of engineering artwork!!
@stephensmith7992 жыл бұрын
Apparently Robinson’s ‘Black Pig’ 4-6-0s were extremely sure footed. One footplate guest noted that on departing (I think from Leeds) the driver shoved the regular right open ‘to the roof’ and then took up a stance resting his elbows on the edge of the cab looking ahead for the signals. He was totally unconcerned that the loco might slip violently… and it didn’t.
@simonsadler9360 Жыл бұрын
Had a holiday using the Cornish Riviera Express ,at times double headed King's!
@tomtroszak3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I don't think I've ever heard another British loco bark like this before! Magnificent.
@rogercantwell36222 жыл бұрын
This is a double chimney King. They would have been louder with the original single chimney.
@tomtroszak2 жыл бұрын
@@rogercantwell3622 Wow! Was there ever any film footage (or sound recordings) made of those?
@stephensmith7993 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the toughest firing turn in the age of steam: a King from Paddington to Shrewsbury and BACK the same day back in the early 1960s...
@83GrailwayProductions2 жыл бұрын
London Paddington to Plymouth on a king was pretty rough I’ve heard. five hours with three tough gradients
@stephensmith7992 жыл бұрын
@@83GrailwayProductions You’d have to have come up through the links to have the sheer stamina to do that. It would be good to have some more articles by present day main line steam crew who have to fire without opportunities to build up and maintain muscle strength, cardiovascular fitness and all the skill needed. How they rate different classes would be good to know too. What I notice is that Bulleid’s Pacific’s are never shy for steam. When I look at the sectioned Merchant Navy at the NRM, the whole layout of the thing LOOKS free-steaming. Ironmongery it may be, but it’s magnificent! I’m reading ‘The American Steam Locomotive in the Twentieth Century’ (a hellish expensive but fantastic book) and the thinking that’s gone into steam has been very ingenious. As you can see, I’m a steam diehard! Try the ‘Mackwell Loco’ channel here on KZbin for a water-tube wood burning boiler alternative future for ‘sustainable steam’. Recommended.
@johannessilver865314 күн бұрын
In Finnish locos there were a pneumatic door opener ...no need for the doorman. Kylälä was also a Finn to invent the double exhaust system which was a vital reason for Mallard to record speed. Thanks for the video.
@robinforrest76803 жыл бұрын
What a monster! Magnificent.
@andrewwilliams23532 жыл бұрын
Yup, the Kings and Castles could be Monsters al right - but very Elegant Brutes
@shidzngigglez2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely thought that the King was being fired! He's only just got the job! 😂
@mattyrallye4 жыл бұрын
Makes the hairs on my neck stand up
@thetman00683 жыл бұрын
Wow. Those great heaps of coal literally being sucked from the shovel into the fire is a tremendous sight!
@ExoVyper3 жыл бұрын
I laughed a little reading this thinking it was a 'dramatization'... but no, it was utterly spot on. To see the coal sucked off the shovel is shocking!
@jacobwoods87383 жыл бұрын
@@ExoVyper If you work a loco hard enough (and it is big enough) it will suck the shovel from ones hands if not careful. I know someone who lost a shovel into the firebox in his younger days.
@bobcannell76033 жыл бұрын
I nearly lost a shovel into the fire in Poland. Was using it as a mask to look at the fire and the driver opened the regulator. Was pulled out of my hands. Managed to grab it . Most engines carry a spare for that reason. Fireman has to buy big drinks all round if he burns a shovel.
@stephensmith7992 жыл бұрын
@@bobcannell7603 I read of a driver who was about to leave Derby on a GW loco after the gauge glass had shattered. The gauge glass try-cocks had been shut without scalding the crew. The driver was hell bent on maintaining the schedule even though the crew could not know with much accuracy what the water level was. The fireman argued back but the driver opened the regulator and began to move the train. The point of the story? The fireman had the presence of mind to throw the shovel out! The driver was as furious as he was crazy. But the fireman absolutely did the right thing!
@arthurrytis60102 жыл бұрын
@@stephensmith799 .Too right. I could never understand why GWR persisted with only one gauge glass on a loco
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53294 жыл бұрын
That king is making a loud noise and I can hear the echoing in the background at this clip outside Stratford upon Avon
@theoldar3 жыл бұрын
A hundred years ago this happened thousands of times a day, all over the world.
@bussesandtrains12182 жыл бұрын
not quiet 90 years ago, sure
@RogersRamblings2 жыл бұрын
Much less than that, steam didn't disappear from the BR main line until 1968. Steam continued on the Vale of Rheidol narrow gauge railway until 1989 when the railway was sold.
@chriswilson24313 жыл бұрын
Superb. A great match of skill on the footplate of a very experienced competent driver and an efficient fireman. I had no idea the draw from the fire was strong enough to suck lumps of coal that size from the shovel. Wow.
@Isochest2 жыл бұрын
The downside to using a loco firebox as a barbecue!
@richardananedickinson4812 Жыл бұрын
I was an old oak common fireman back in the I never got a chance to fire a king but you must remember they would never to fireman on the footplate and if you are firing working the doors you would be doing that by yourself and working the injectors as well normally the driver would not be standing it would be on that some head very clever inventions where they would bolt on a padded seat to the wooden one and not get off it until we had reached our destination or we were getting relief
@kristinajendesen71113 жыл бұрын
Makes me appreciate what my colleagues went through at Salisbury. I would have loved to have done it though despite the poor pay and conditions.
@BrianClark-m4t8 ай бұрын
When I was a fireman at Cardiff Canton in the early 1960s I never had a 'second fireman' I had to do it all myself. We normally used the firehole flap and rarely used the doors. I noticed the fireman did not put any coal in the back corners - this usually burnt the back of your hands. As for the driver wearing gloves - whatever next. That said wonderful video and long live the GWR,
@julianmorris99517 ай бұрын
My old man used to work in Barry in the 80s , last off on valleys lines treherbert, not sure where he was before Barry but got picture of him in Neasden London in the 50s and a nice picture of him with his mate in front of a steam locomotive numbered 6695, the old man sadly passed away in 2008, Marcus morris.
@leroyholm90753 жыл бұрын
An amazing video!
@harrymurray25153 жыл бұрын
There was another version of this by PSOV.
@gibb2535 ай бұрын
without the narration-unfortunately it got taken down
@harrymurray25153 жыл бұрын
Railtour name: The Mothering Sunday William Shakespeare Express
@zeppo7238 Жыл бұрын
Desperation is the English way! On most steam locos around the world the driver could operate seated with finger tip controls. This is unbelievable to see how you could possibly give full attention to the signals and tracks ahead. Shovelling from the floor of the tender..! That is absolutely back breaking, nice loco but so archaic.
@TheSorub Жыл бұрын
well it is nearly 100 years old
@ex48bw Жыл бұрын
More specifically, a 100-year-old Great Western Railway engine. The layout of the GWR's engines barely changed since about the year 1910.
@royceorville23 жыл бұрын
"Sire you have been fired" "What" "What"
@arthurrytis60102 жыл бұрын
Royce Orville. Well. Fire me again. Serf !
@peterdollins36103 жыл бұрын
There is no 'second' fireman. One fireman an engine & you are using the flap as you fire.
@OlanKenny3 жыл бұрын
Who's t'other fella then?
@peterpullen9583 жыл бұрын
This loco has THREE CREW
@picman19863 жыл бұрын
Curious myself, I spoke to a gentleman in my family who was on the railways for many years and had the privilege of driving Kings before electrification. He said that it wasn't uncommon for there to be 3 crew on the King Class on particularly hard climbs. The first fireman would feed the boiler with coal continually while the other would work the airflow via the firebox doors and regulate the water injectors to keep the engine at ful steam. They would then switch over so that the feeding fireman wouldn't be knackered come the top. He did say that the King class of steam engine could be a joy to drive on flat rail, but an utter pig if not fired right up a climb. I hope that helps clears up the question :)
@ivorwiddison86783 жыл бұрын
@@OlanKenny A BR inspector, helping out.
@robinforrest76803 жыл бұрын
The driver used to open the fire doors for me
@andrewwilliams23533 жыл бұрын
seeing the coal drawn off the shovel by the blast reminds me of a tale my Grandpa told me. He was firing a GWR 28xx goods train which was waiting in a passing loop for the express to pass. He thought he'd use the wait to have a bite of breakfast. The bacon was put on the washed coal shovel and put into the firebox. However, the signal came off, the driver started the engine and the bacon went up the chimney !
@elliottube20083 жыл бұрын
Nice one, thanks for that.
@steamfandan96823 жыл бұрын
Remember that happened on top gear back in 2009 when Clarkson was firing Tornado
@andrewwilliams23533 жыл бұрын
@@steamfandan9682 Serve him right ! Pity he didn't go after it !! Only joking.
@steamfandan96823 жыл бұрын
@@andrewwilliams2353 though have known other funny footplate cooking failures like someone tried cooking pork chops on the shovel then someone putting the blower On full
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329Ай бұрын
I saw that on dvd of the British steam railways with flying Scotsman
@The8224sm11 ай бұрын
Power and majesty, a sight to behold. It's a good piece of driving to catch that slip, the awful wheel slip of Peppercorn A2 Blue Peter shows how a wheel slip can turn into a disastrous tragedy.
@harrycooke63493 жыл бұрын
Amazing thanks for posting, we should never forget how vital the loco was to this country 🇬🇧
@JamesWarrior3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and informative video. Thank you.
@andrewjohnfox2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed all the comments about firing a King. On the Wolverhampton to Paddington run there was only ever a crew of two. i.e. driver and fireman unless they were being inspected as part of routine assessment. But unlike the LNER locos the GWR locos had deep fireboxes which could be filled up to the door at the back with usually about two tons of coal on for the start of the journey . It was hard work though, especially to find the front of the very long firebox. Filling the firebox could keep the engine going for a long time. At the London end of the journey the firebox would be be filled approaching Princess Risborough about 15 miles before Paddington to avoid excessive smoke in the capital city. On arrival the loco would then go to Old Oak Common shed for servicing and about four hours later with no more coal having been added, would back onto a train at Paddington for the return journey. To bring the fire back to life a long bar was inserted into the firebox and used to lift the fire and it would suddenly come alive again. Then the fireman would be hard at work again on the shovel for the return journey.
@Aaron-uf3sl4 жыл бұрын
Is there video without the narration?
@likklej82 жыл бұрын
What line is that King on? The foot bridge doesn’t too GWR
@HenryDover-Porter4 ай бұрын
Raw power 💪👌
@ollywelsh11983 жыл бұрын
'Effing wonderful!
@danguinan72384 жыл бұрын
Where is this footage from?
@ragusaboy964 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid it's from PSOV Mainline.
@ex48bw4 жыл бұрын
@@ragusaboy96 This particular clip actually comes from a DVD+magazine series called 'British Steam Railways' (or something to that extent) - PSOV Mainline used to have this as a stand-alone video, but that channel has vanished from KZbin for some reason.
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53294 жыл бұрын
Psov mainline
@simonsadler9360 Жыл бұрын
Has the stupid rail system in the Un -United Kingdom had the sense to use the sand boxes ??
@BeingRomans829ed2 жыл бұрын
Now that’s the way to fire a boiler; have you a flunkee to handle the doors for you.