First Blackfyre Rebellion | House Of The Dragon History & Lore (Reign Of King Daeron ii Targaryen)

[@Spongebrain97]

This might just be me but I always thought the First Blackfyre Rebellion was more interesting than the Dance of the Dragons

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

I definitely agree

[@yaboyed5779]

@@aegorbittersteel2154of course you do. 😂

[@yaboyed5779]

Same, pretty interesting since it was the first conflict without dragons.

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

​@@yaboyed5779and if most of the Blackfyres are pretty good people but end up being killed dishonorably it would add another dimension to the rebellions. Especially with the succession crisis after Daeron's death if the Blackfyres would actually make a good option not only in universe to readers as well it would be so much better and more grey than Targaryen good Blackfyre bad.

[@marlenamaria3847]

I agree, I hope HBO does a series on this era.😊

[@thedragondemands5186]

I’m so curious about this because we know little of the specifics other than that most Blackfyre supporters were in the Reach and Stormlands - because apparently Daemon Blackfyre was doing so well that at some point he _minted his own coinage._

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

I would give so much money for a King Daemon Blackfyre the 1st coin.

[@NRV0]

Probably his supporters idea and not his own.

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

@@NRV0 Yea probably

[@rakshithanand8262]

Minting coinage does not by itself a strong support base make. Rather, it is in universal acceptance of that coinage and/or the ability to trade it with other currencies at favourable rates that make it worth something. Daemon being able to mint coins shows that his supporters possessed gold and a mint with that, but it doesn't mean much by itself, since we don't know to what extent his coin was used or how much he made. Likely it was valued equivalently to a 'standard' Gold Dragon thanks to identical materials, but given the fact that no Lords Paramount supported Daemon, it could not have been used outside of lands he already had sway over (and thus could not serve a purpose to extend his influence). The fact that his coins were similar enough to Daeron's as to pass entirely unnoticed by the smallfolk shows that his intended target was literate lords who could use the coin to show support. Overall, Daemon minting coins is much like Daemon wielding Blackfyre- a useful symbol and a way to reinforce his legitimacy IF he wins, but not a show of strength by itself and not a factor in the overall cause of House Blackfyre. I am reminded of the time Liu Bei minted his own coins during the Three Kingdoms era and succeeded only in crashing his own economy.

[@trogdoar149]

100% not Daemon's fault. I will always blame Aegor, Peake, and Bloodraven's paranoia. I don't think Daemon was ever really interested in rebelling until his hand was forced by others.

[@madambutterfly1997]

"Red or Black a dragon is still a dragon" a very immature sentiment to say the least, considering the two dragons may share the same blood but they represent two different things and putting a Blackfyre on the throne can never be the same as putting a Targaryen on the throne regardless of the fact that they are both descendants of Aegon the Conqueror

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

At at some point once you get far enough down the line it doesn't really matter like as much as I love King Daemon Maelys is not him just like how the mad king is not Daeron.

[@redadmiralofvalyria867]

Especially if one of those dragons LITERALLY & TRULY united the kingdoms via a Quill, NOT A SWORD

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

@@redadmiralofvalyria867 That was undeniably great still favored Dorne a bit too much tho.

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

Happy Blackfyre Friday. 1st to take the Black for House Blackfyre!!!!! Long Live House Blackfyre True Royal Family and holders of Blackfyre The Sword of Kings🗡 I still think they tried to arrest Daemon Blackfyre before he himself actually did anything.

[@bigdave2884]

Best soiaf KZbin channel

[@isaiahdaddys9379]

Love these videos. The quality has really improved over time, cheers bro.

[@Vanic00]

Long Live Daemon I Blackfyre!!! The True King of Westeros!!! Hail the Black Dragon!!!

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

HAIL THE TRUE KING🗡

[@Daemon3rdBlackfyre]

HAIL THE BLACK DRAGON!

[@Aquelequedesconhece]

Hail the black dragon!

[@madambutterfly1997]

Is there a rebellion was built on two things the fact that Daemon had The Sword and the long dead belief that Daeron was a bastard of Aemon the Dragonknight. For the former part a sword by itself cannot be seen as the true symbol of a Targaryen king and the rightful heir to the throne because of the simple fact that that's where it could easily be in the hands of a complete nobody does that nobody become the rightful heir to the throne just because they have a sword. It was clear that they were grasping at anything, now that there were no more dragons and thus no more Dragon Riders that one thing that could prove legitimacy by virtue of only individuals of Valyrian ancestry can ride dragons The latter part was fucking stupid, since Aemon is nothing like Jaime. Yes he loved his sister but he was clearly a better man. Jaime was an impressionable child who practically set up for failure when he joined the Kingsguard

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

I don't know I could believe it nothing like what Jamie did but more like one night of finally giving into passion. Also while it might seem silly the sword was held by every King before and it was more about who King Daemon Blackfyre was as a person I doubt if Blackfyre was given to Bloodraven or Bittersteel the people would call for them to be King.

[@madambutterfly1997]

​@aegorbittersteel2154 if the Dragon Knight had did that he would have shown to be no better than his brother. I'm pretty sure Aemon had standards regardless of his love for Naerys.

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

​@madambutterfly1997 Let's be real even if Aemon was with his sister every night he would still be better than Aegon and Aemon is a great legendary but that doesn't mean he can't make mistakes to regret love is the death of duty.

[@madambutterfly1997]

@aegorbittersteel2154 not all Kingsguard were oathbreaking trash.

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

@@madambutterfly1997 Very true but breaking an oath out of love really wouldn't make him a bad person especially if was once and something he regretted.

[@pattonramming1988]

There exists no greater evidence of the ineptitude of AegonIV than the Blackfyre rebellion

[@JoseGonzalez-pn5zl]

House Hightower giving Daemon support huh no surprise there.

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

I don't know if that's a statement against King Daemon Blackfyre but if it is they supported Daeron as well.

[@pattonramming1988]

I'm suprised that the Hightowers were openly scorned by the great houses for their part in starting the Dance of Dragons

[@JoseGonzalez-pn5zl]

@@aegorbittersteel2154not at all I’m just saying the Hightower had mad influence even when the Targaryens had there dragons..

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

@@JoseGonzalez-pn5zl True good point they have so much soft power.

[@JoseGonzalez-pn5zl]

@@pattonramming1988 I know right hard to believe there a banner men of the Tyrells they have a lot of strength.

[@lawrencereid2767]

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[@aegorbittersteel2154]

Are some of these hearts for House Blackfyre as well as WoW

[@lawrencereid2767]

@@aegorbittersteel2154 yes mi lord

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

@@lawrencereid2767 Excellent

[@samalvey8168]

They can romanticise it all they like, but treason dressed in pretty words is still treason.

[@chuckpeterson8374]

I still believe Aegor wanted to be king, but knew that would never happen, used Daemon to declare for king so that would hurt Daeron and Bloodraven and maybe Daemon would be a semi puppet for Aegor

[@NRV0]

Make sense that Daemon Blackfyre side would win a lot of the early battles as he had more support from the Knights and more martial inclined lords. Maybe the King should've summoned his brother to come to court to discuss matters instead of trying to have him arrested. If he refused that would've gave him a legitimate reason to act. Either way, such a shame things came to this for Daemon Blackfyre and King Daeron ii. I wouldn't be shocked if George had the rebellion kicked off from a mistake. I also lean on the side of Daemon being the brother that Brynden loved.

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

The War was tragic Daemon and Daeron both seem like really good people that's why I like the Blackfyre Rebellions it has so much potential to have both sides be understandable and very humanized. Especially if most of the Blackfyres follow King Daemon the 1st lead actually being pretty good people considering most of them get get killed this dishonorably.

[@FireCat34]

@@aegorbittersteel2154 your right Blackfyre rebellions was a tragic it's show best and smartest people foolish actions cans leads to war what one things that makes Blackfyre rebellions great learn about

[@liamcollins9183]

I hope in the future after House of the Dragon finishes, we get a show about the lead up to and the Blackfyre Rebellion, perhaps from the dual perspectives of Bloodraven and Bittersteel as the key behind the scenes movers and shakers.

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

You just described basically what I dream about every other night. I need you to become a producer or something and make this happen.

[@liamcollins9183]

@@aegorbittersteel2154 Maybe if we both pray to the Lord of Light and sacrifice a loved one or two it might happen, George might even finish the second volume of Fire and Blood 🙏

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

@@liamcollins9183 😄😄😄 I am ready if you are my only request is you give the Blackfyres some love when you become a big famous Producer.

[@TheMerit]

My ideal ending is Aegon 3 siting there being all happy that he’s got two heirs and his brother has two sons and things are concluded on a happy note. That way only is true nerds will know just what is about to come

[@liamcollins9183]

@@TheMerit since when was Aegon III ever happy? 😂

[@daemonblackfyre3238]

The beginning of the war seems odd. Send people to arrest someone because you think he will declare himself king? Also someone notifying the person who is to be arrested.

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

So true, my King, it is very suspicious.

[@Daemon3rdBlackfyre]

Your grace, one day your blood will sit the iron throne, this I swear!

[@jeffcordova9633]

First to take the black for house Targaryen

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

Black Dragon Better🗡 and you are so fast I worry all the time you will beat me to it😄

[@lawrencereid2767]

@@aegorbittersteel2154 same here mi lord

[@jobobtargaryen1258]

​@@aegorbittersteel2154you ran away bro!

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

@jobobtargaryen1258 was ordered by a false king and didn't take the oath, so that doesn't count.

[@FireCat34]

I very sure that trying the Blackfyre siding in 2nd and 3rd Blackfyre rebellions was far more justified to join then 1st because Daemon Blackfyre was so good getting people on his side that why 1st one was biggest

[@DragonE15]

They should really make the first Blackfyre Rebellion into a series.