First Descendant Ultimate Vs Regular Descendant : Does It Matter?

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[@admiralalyssa]

We all know the only reason people are shelling out 100 USD for Ultimate Bunny is for the cake, not her stats.

[@Canseeyt]

😂😂😂

[@Darklord-Anubis]

It's actually $50 for just the skin. $100 gets u extra perks. Spawn skin. The non nude skin. 2 prestige crystals and a energy reactor. With some xp boosters

[@simonshura9144]

Supporting i would rather call it hun, if you cant afford 100$ disposable income fun money that is lol 😂

[@oBergerr]

they should just farm her, its not that hard. got mine by farming in like 2 to 3 days

[@haseo8162]

Proudly bought this skin. Got her set up so far hitting 1.5mils. Love it. Best Farming character in the game. ( My wife hates this skin ).

[@ESTalesTyrone]

Ultimate grants the booty buff so it’s worth it

[@user-ui8be2hk6l]

🤣 Bunny become Butty.

[@Zefrone]

Fucking weird community

[@keagcrafter5697]

That booty helps a a lot

[@ODSTCodaith]

Atlas be like; 6k armour? Nah 7+k armour base. Bunny: shield, HP and Booty

[@HCIbn]

And $100 real money too.

[@zzzzzzzzzPP]

I need to keep my regular bunny sadly, My mom walks behind me sometimes

[@mrtire-12]

Ok. This is a good reason to buy a micro transaction for a skin. Imma do that.

[@foaduk9118]

Naah fr my mum sometimes just randomly comes into my room without knocking or any warning

[@user-th5vl6ef1l]

You are a good guy

[@MedicalBillz]

I got Ultimate Bunny and immediately got a skin for her for the same reason, don't feel bad

[@slide-bytim3762]

I bought the tree skin so my girl won’t walk in on ass

[@rafael.c2077]

Bunny Ultimate is the one that matters the most, we all know that, and we know why, no need do discuss it

[@roberthill6738]

Yea that ultimate bunny mod go crazy 😉

[@DonCarver.]

Just wait for Ultimate Valby, we will see if this stays true. 😂

[@zerofighterkicks2041]

Of course the high voltage module! She is foldable regardless.

[@JagofettEXE]

Why?

[@fantasee1]

Question: Does it matter? Step 1: Open up Ultimate Bunny in the shop Step 2: Rotate her 180 degrees Step 3: Zoom in Answer: Yes, it matters

[@duyhung2528]

Lmao THIS^^^^

[@breezy3176]

And then screenshot

[@osama9501]

Nah i don't rotate, i just zoom in

[@fantasee1]

@@osama9501 To each their own. I respect it.

[@AlastorKing-sk3cq]

My honest reaction: 🗿

[@pwnomega4562]

I noticed an ultimate bunny player pretty much nuking the local zip code everytime they double jumped while running a mission for thunder cage parts.

[@blackhat8518]

If you are a warframe player, so many rules from warframe can apply to this game. Just use your knowledge of that, and you'll be fine.

[@richardsmith9615]

Difference is a huge bottleneck on Potatoes. The droprates for Activator blueprints is pretty harsh, even with the crafting requirements

[@vroom221]

@@richardsmith9615 i think the difference is the bare fucking ASS

[@kalebwalker6557]

numbers don’t scale the same so no. but some concepts are the same

[@NeightrixPrime]

Definitely matters for Lepic, that defense makes him a lot more flexible on external components.

[@Aggro224]

Ok nerd

[@taylorsps12]

not really. its basically not even noticable in the end. anything over 15k defence is overkill.

[@kevynduran2659]

@@taylorsps12you should try for 20k

[@Sxraj]

Getting the Ultimate version is main problem. I’m trying to get Ultimate Gley and I don’t think ima get get anytime soon. 😭

[@Ijustpullingeneral]

Only a handful of players got it legitly… It’s gonna be a grind N a half 🤣

[@Sxraj]

@@Ijustpullingeneral If I had the funds right now I’d buy lol

[@alexandreribeiro1402]

i just finished grinding for ulti bunny and let me say what pain it was im f2p not a single penny used and let me say 2 days just for faming blueprints (i got unlucky) and got helped by friends to speed up de progress

[@menmauzumaki5931]

​@@alexandreribeiro1402 Do you know if there's a visual difference between a bought n crafted ultimate? If not there should be. We need to flex our hours/days of torture lol

[@mayasamsara]

Can you use high voltage from Ultimate Bunny in regular Bunny which is fully maxed with catalysts? That is the main question.. Forget the skin.. Because do you have to make a whole new ultimate bunny with the catalysts.. Or do you have to do the while grind fest again.. No one answers that...

[@MarcosLugao]

Ultimates versions have exclusive mods, just for this matter

[@Jo_nii_san]

most exclusive mods are not meta or can be just as good without them its a faster way to hit meta numbers but considering the grind and money putting all the money u would spend on ults and putting it into the normal version u can get more polarity and dps and match meta numbers much faster

[@alexd1811]

@@Jo_nii_san The ultimate bunny mode is nuts.

[@carnage9536]

@@Jo_nii_sanultimate bunny, lepic, and Gley mods are very powerful.

[@rx71102]

@@Jo_nii_san cope

[@wben7833]

Cope with what? ​@@rx71102

[@BilabaLabiba]

In bunny’s case it matters. And you know why

[@0rderSol]

These buffs are kinda huge given that DEF and HP mods are mandatory.

[@peagames2002]

You would be kinda wasting mods to boost Defense. 5-10k is least you need. HP matters more.

[@iFatey]

​@@peagames2002 no lol. My Ajax has 70k defense and 17k hp and he literaly cant die

[@peagames2002]

@@iFatey I have 17k on my bunny, and she can't die either.... and she has 500 defense.

[@matytu899]

@@iFatey defense doesnt matter after around 25k for everyone except maybe ajax cause he scales with def iirc, but hp is more important

[@iFatey]

@@matytu899 ehh, my hp does nothing lol. Spent hours doing diffrent mods and trying stuff out, my ajax is just built diffrent. Im still missing a transcendent module for it aswell which is gonna make the build even crazier

[@Y4ngCP]

A ajax one is huge too since u wnt to build him into defense...

[@lynchh270]

ajax gets what 2k defense nearly, thats huge since he normally gets like 500% defense

[@itsreapernecrosis2215]

Ok idk why the most important part of this wasnt mentioned but mods multiply based on your base stats. So put simply in a theoretical manner, if a base descendant has 1000 armor, and the ult character has 1500 armor, its only a 500 armor difference. 500 wouldnt make a difference in the long run. Now lets slot in some defense mods, most people get between 25k to 40k def on their avaerage descendant when they slot those in. So lets say our theoretical base descendant manages to get to 30k defense. Now we slot those mods into our theoretical equivulant ult character. Their armor would end up being 45k. 15k armor difference there. Thats the kind of difference we are talking about. Its all percentage based and multiplied. If an ulti has a stat 20 percent better, extrapolate that into the tens of thousands and you'll see a huge difference, because the true diffence comes when theyre modded, not just looking at their base stats. HUGE difference.

[@JuncoHat]

Except, the defense that's added by external components is much greater than the descendant's. Since the the sum of those two is what's multiplied by defense mods, the base defense doesn't have that great of an effect.

[@slim608]

Good video! Would revisit the math. Ajax for example, you get 1200 more base defense, which compounds to a lot more value when you put defense mods on

[@night9246]

Theres nobody thats not gonna go for bunny for the cake but besides that her Mod that changes the moves is nutty for bosses ngl

[@devibezshow]

Just keep applying the mod discounts signs on your main. We definitely have ultimates at home.

[@NigelDRealest]

Yes, all of them matters for those who care to min/max, especially the bunny. Once you reach endgame and hardmode you realize every Hit point matters. TBH, I put so many catalyst on my regular bunny, there is no way im getting ultimate and starting over. My regular is far more capable than a stock ultimate

[@Groove-Master_Hendo]

At some point it will make sense to do so. You're just like an investor who bought at the top before a crash. Now you have to hold the bag (your bunny (your L)) until you get the resources to take advantage of ultimate.

[@Fackletard]

@@Groove-Master_Hendo I'm not so sure 90% of the people in this KZbin comment section can even comprehend what you just said. Love it.

[@davidvelasquez7075]

Im buffing my regular bunny just if necessary, im keeping my catalyst and stuff once i get ultimate bunny and max her, bye regular bunny, hello ultimate bunny

[@Groove-Master_Hendo]

@@davidvelasquez7075 bro up there locked in on regular 🐰 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@wraithhe]

Bruh moment, never hyper invest into the normal variants cos the ultimates/primes will always be better and have better exclusive mods, just look at ultimate Bunnys high voltage mod it takes her from mobbing to bossing and then there's ult lepic with firearm master. Don't make that mistake

[@DrunkDjinn]

I fell in love with viessa in the beta. Then I looked into it and her drop rates are abysmal even compared to other ultimates. So I just said screw it and bought her. It’s like 2-3h work for me anyways and I’m saving myself from weeks of farming.

[@ODSTCodaith]

Your telling me. At a 20% drop chance... After 20 tries I can't get her code to drop.... It's a 20 min mission. She has 3 pieces and a blueprint and is essentially a "main," (being easy to acquire) character..... Devs were lying somewhere and it's obviously within the drop/reward rates. If not it's Blatantly obvious that it needs to be a higher drop rate by atleast 10% across the board. 8 hours for one piece X3 =24 hours plus the combination to make the character is 18hours. That's 44 hours. That's a standard work week...... That's just not okay. Cut it down to 1/10th that total time.

[@azureeyes]

​@ODSTCodaith well thank god you don't play warframe that's 12 hours for each part and 72 hours to make the frame first descendant times don't look that bad to me

[@HCIbn]

@@azureeyesGet a real job!

[@azureeyes]

​@@HCIbn I have a job what's that have to do with crafting times. Starting the crafting go to work shit will be done when you come back

[@epicbrofist6531]

​@azureeyes Warframe is much faster paced and you can craft all the basic warframes within a day and just wait it out till they finish since you don't have a crafting limit.Last I checked a 20% drop rate is 1 in 5 but that clearly isn't the case

[@wave5201]

So long story short I I’ve been farming 100 relics for bunny code just for absolutely no reason

[@jordanmeredith4680]

I got 2 parts first time and the other by accident while farming xp 😂

[@critter7667]

No, ult bunny has a mod that only her ultimate variant can use and it’s a dps monster. Keep grinding it’s worth it

[@dubzero8401]

it’s just for the high voltage mod

[@collynjohnson2220]

Unpopular opinion i fucking love the low drop chances. Brings me back to 2010s with stuff like borderlands farming for rare items and drops

[@a_green_snake6451]

Considering ultimate versions have access to awesome mods their regular versions don't, I say it is absolutely worth it... The issue is getting the mods, and the parts to craft the ultimate version, to drop

[@leonesenpai]

The Ultimates are Prime Frames, so that should tell you that they're worth it. Also, stop getting mad because people choose to buy them instead. We literally do the same thing in Warframe.

[@rezaruki3912]

I mean yes Warframe also have prime access with its bundles etc

[@gameworldintel9924]

This was extremely helpful man, Thanks bro 😎👊🏽

[@SrChr778]

Ultimates also have exclusive modules. So, there's that to consider.

[@JerBuster77]

I hope Ultimate Freyna will have a Poison Ivy like skin.

[@Ui_Raizen]

My problem with this game is the grind for the ultimates for such little stats compared to warframe where you can obsoletely see the difference in regular vs prime frames

[@pumpalies1711]

All that grinding for a small gain is insane.

[@davonmoultrie32]

Facts. Which is why I’m just sticking to my regular viessa. 😂 I’m not doing all that rn. It was already a pain forming for out bunny. I have ptsd from it lmfaooo

[@bryanteo9046]

You missed out the abilities difference. If i recall Ulti Bunny has a shorter Cooldown on her V .

[@gagongflip389]

Lol! She go all day.

[@BoBurnham69]

Yeah of course it matters, cause of the exclusive High Voltage module *alone* makes Ult Bunny better than plain old bunny

[@zer0026]

Ultimate Bunny actually has noticably thicker thighs. I actually laughed when confirmed this whem i did a side by side comparison with another players Ultimate in the hub area.

[@hank5111]

Dame it gley ultimate is a must, double the defance state, mean more focus on health buffs.

[@Cryosimorgh]

Def stat has major diminishing returns, 1 or 2k does not matter unless you are just starting the game

[@Crypticcord]

I would say it does because you need to remember this is baseline before mods this could straight up save you a mod slot that would be armor and let you take duel stat armor mods instead to hit the softcap meaning just as tanky with better abilities

[@frankauc6023]

No it wont save you the 200% def module lol. At best it will let you put a health external component instead of a defense one

[@DaithiSan]

It’s crazy how gamers talk shit about game prices but drop 100 quid on a fucking skin

[@du6z]

dude ive been searching for a video like this for so long thank you so much

[@reckless5834]

Same everyone's just doing build guides. All I want is the stat differences was that so hard lmao.

[@du6z]

@@reckless5834 fr

[@jgfswazey]

I’m tired of farming and not getting anything and I’m for damn sure not about to buy the ultimate descendant. It was fun while it lasted lol

[@EnVee215]

I wish it just turns the regular into the ultimate and have everything carry over that you grinded for.

[@boki1693]

If the ultimit version was $25 I would buy it. At $70, that's just crazy talk.

[@supSuicide]

Grinded out my parts in around 6hours. It’s not bad enough to even contemplate buying

[@trystandayton5292]

it’s $55

[@naoxehn3318]

To be fair knowing I invest in something that has a slightly better version and therefore is a better flex would hinder me from investing. In case of Gley though the ultimate is worth it, with the modules you will be running those extra 1.7k defense easily turns into extra 7k defense.

[@leSmokySmoke]

Yes, farm the ultimates. Invest into them. Do the regulars later just for mastery

[@XirogaYT]

Imagine how it would be an ultimate Jayber...

[@tetiitet]

Yes it's matter, better cake = better come :)

[@Adrian-us7zc]

Ive seen where ultimate lepic is significantly stronger than base because of his specific mod...

[@Raynolds007]

the amount of time you are going to spend on farming Ult's you can most definitely get 12+ Catalysts and make the whole farm a moot.

[@mavzdog]

As someone who grinded ultimate bunny (took around 15 hours of grinding) I would say she is far better than regular bunny. The main reason the the High Voltage Mod which absolutely shreds

[@d3masher294]

Wish frayna had a ult, love poison builds

[@dennyg697]

She will get one in the future, i also love playing freyna :)

[@BohrokKiller]

Well, I got good news for you.

[@josephdefrang5976]

Yeah she's coming in Season one, like a week from now

[@rafaelgalindo4794]

I finally got my first Ultimate, Lepic. I know he is probably the easiest to get but I feel proud. I starting now farming for Ult Bunny since she is my main and the one I invested the most. I wish I was rich to just buy the ultimate bundle but, oh well....

[@flavbeatz7127]

Gotta do a part two to show if there are changes to skill dmg if any because in warframe thats a big reason to buy prime/ultimate, if no changes to base skill power than absolutely no reason to buy other than fanfare cheeks

[@supermaybdo]

the fact that devs only made slight boost to defensive stats makes it. ok for me. if they had higher offensive powers, that would be a problem.

[@L337Koala]

They have access to special mods that only work on the ultimate. Some of them are busted af.

[@supermaybdo]

@@L337Koala devs said in an interview that ult mods are not any more powerful than non ult ones. Even if they were op, ppl can farm ult descendants for free so i still think game design is fine

[@wraithhe]

​@@supermaybdoI mean the high voltage transcendent mod for bunny is absolutely insane cos it takes her from a mobbing beast to a bossing beast so idk about that "higher offensive powers" cos that's what ultimates absolutely are, almost all ultimates have exclusive transcendent mods that make them nuts

[@critter7667]

Long story short, get the ultimate version. It’s always gonna be better, and you need it for mastery rank anyways. Some characters have mods only they can use. Ultimate bunny for that matter as a mod that makes her a dps monster that normal bunny can’t utilize

[@billy_cross5580]

. I’m not gonna listen to much more, but the fact is if the ultimate character gets better stats that matter to you then it’s going to become hyper important when you start modeling out that character specially things like increased or things that give you a percentage increased to your baseare going to a lot when you’re looking at 23 modules getting you like 300% increase on some stat that’s going to be way more useful when the stand itself is higher. I haven’t looked at them on each of them but anything saying it’s increasing a stat by a percentage is going to be much more important if those base stat is higher to begin with.

[@jonsmith3122]

Wish the base version I’m using for Valby which I have 10 module sockets on would transfer to the ultimate version. Exactly the same character… of course when ult Valby releases in a couple weeks :(

[@saverx1775]

Kinda figured they would get a bit more mp or skill scaling along with hp but i can see that going for these is overall useless unless they have a busted transcen mod

[@Rrr20058bvsc]

Bunny mod is absolutely broken, the one for her aoe attack, man I just cant bring myself to spend a full price game fee for one character its insane.

[@McLoven-vm1ck]

You can earn them through gameplay but the grind is real​@@Rrr20058bvsc

[@foaduk9118]

​@@Rrr20058bvscgotta grind for it then. The materials arent hard but the ultimate bunny 3% drops are absurd

[@Derrad333]

Finished grinding ultimate ajax, its in the oven cooking, some of the grinding is kind of BS, but its not unsurmountable

[@gamemasteraj05]

Oh it matters. To make extreme min/max builds possible. A pure defense build with 1 hp on Ajax could be the tankiest in the game

[@dkking787]

Nah you’d have to rely on shields that’s more for Kyle

[@dkking787]

Ajax scales on def and Hp there’s better modes for the job

[@ilikecats45648]

getting ultimate is a pain in the ass and not allways worth it. For my bunny for example, the only real difference is that i cant use the cool dmg ult mod with regular, but im doing perfectly fine without it so far. The deff stats dont really matter

[@SenseofNoneYT]

So the stats for the abilities are the same? I think that's what matters to me more. If an Ultimate Descendant's abilities have bigger numbers then it's definitely worth it. But if not then yeah, it matters less.

[@Slaydra]

not sure if it applies to all of them, but some may have different CDR's but its not 100% known on scaling since I dont have all ultimates and the site doesnt show any changes (bunny ulti has 3 seconds less CDR on ulti but not sure if it changes on transcendent mods)

[@GokuBlackRose978]

My goal is ultimate Ajax (I’m a Ajax main)

[@yxngband3356]

You obviously want the ultimate versions pick to either buy it or farm it but you Need it

[@rellwalker8624]

Um I kinda think we all just want the skin for it. It looks so cool for all of them.

[@kurogiri8397]

I am a Gley main and i will never play the ultimate because the default skin from the normal is better!

[@JeovahLovesYou]

Same. I got the navy blue trench coat! It looks great

[@wraithhe]

Copium

[@TheUltimaFortuna]

Ultimate Lepic matters alot due to his transcendent mod Firearm Master. Its a 40% skill power buff.

[@lorzkotzros]

Yes i got that yesterday as lvl 30 viessa. Guess i try to craft him

[@fluffyfeetbmf]

For the most part, it doesn’t make that much of a difference. Bunny Gley, and Lepic. The rest don’t matter.

[@lenknox23]

The devs made the price points for buying stuff so high to deter ppl from buying things and forcing u to grind for it which ultimately keeps people playing the game longer although I lowkey hate it its actually very smart on the devs to do that cuz like I said it keeps players coming back and having things to grind/farm for rather than paying for it playing a little bit and then quitting because they have nothing else to do

[@g4377]

Yet when I play I feel like I'm wasting my time if I'm not playing on an ult. I've bought 2 decendants and some cosmetics which I thought the mtx was fine in this game aside from buying colors for your outfit. Then today I find out this ult thing isn't just cosmetic now everything I've invested into these two are a waste. Grinding for guns, cosmetics, upgrade materials, regular decendants, and modules are enough

[@ipostlamememesallthetime953]

Ay, hold up! 😂😂😂 I had no idea I just picked up this game because I had a friend who recommended this to me. When I heard this guy's voice, I thought I was gonna hear about Yu-gi-oh! deck building, future promos or support cards, and banlist predictions. Unfortunately, I'm on PS4 and my game crashes at least once a day. Guaranteed :( Kappa123

[@lelouche25]

Me dropping a hundred dollars on ultimate bunny bundle: stats?

[@pazmaster59]

Lol

[@frosy1180]

skill issue

[@utaa25]

​@@frosy1180lmao skill issue😭

[@DatBoiZuess]

@@utaa25 lmao fr its not even skill tho it’s more of the grinding but instead of grinding you just cheat your way by buying it🤷🏽‍♂️

[@lelouche25]

@@DatBoiZuess nope, just wanted to support the game cuz I like it. Farmed ult gley, and currently crying over farming Viessa ult. Because fucking mandatory stealth for 097 anomaly. Got ult laepic in the oven should be done soon.

[@musanetesakupwanya1050]

I knew my choice to bu...i mean...acquire Ult Gley was smart................ Nothing to do with the outfit at all!

[@Weird_guy79]

what gives a 300-400% difference in stats, nothing that I know of.

[@gregmorrell2792]

I finally got my ultimate bunny part number one i got on launch day without even trying at that point in time I didn't even know ultimate characters were a thing in this game. Part number two was sneaking with Sharon got an amorphous that had another 3% for a different part and went why not spend 15 minutes getting void shards and fighting a boss etc hit it first try. Then went back to forgettense and hit the third on the 8th try . . . The fourth meant either sneaking with Sharen who i have built around duration and not survivability and haven't minmaxed her as ive been pouring everything into Min maxing Gley. And im not even close to frostwalker and so i was in the swamp for 32 hours straight. Met a new gaming buddy and we had a system down we went to an outpost he would sneak in with his on the spot basic sharen and once he did his thing i nuked the boss with Gley on a 10% drop rate it took probably 10 hours there to get the last blueprint and there was more echo swamp defense in between 56 hours in total for that last part was brutal but now i just need her materials after the servers come back up thank you for showing the stats!

[@MrFox-xr9cc]

Sooo... considering you get to use ultimate mods with the ultimate versions, have higher stats AND a (in my opinion) cooler base skin, is there any reason not to only farm the ultimate versions, considering there is a limit to 10 descendants?

[@Gurgleplops]

You would be missing out on the mastery xp from the base version. Other than that, no.

[@Y4ngCP]

​@@Gurgleplopsfarm the bse, level it to 40, then take the ultimte 😂

[@deubie0211]

Just like warframe getting primes won't make you a better player, neither will getting an ultimate.

[@SNUSNU4U]

55 hours into farming ultinate viessa. Still not a single drop. Decided to just put my catalysts into bunny for now

[@billy_cross5580]

Play Vesa and and Bonnie that’s the gist of the ones are going to compare. Those isn’t all of them.

[@darkfluoresce1915]

Me see bigger number. Me go farm now.

[@jessesenpai6473]

I just got 2 pieces of ultimate viessa from farming for a weapon lol

[@stormempire51]

Ultimate viessa is probably one of the easier grinds, i got her after i think 20ish hours and you have alot of farm options

[@sussy_61]

funny thing is, if you bought this bunny, you lose interest to play

[@Slaydra]

what do you mean, i want to see her move in her new armor ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@conniemeerman2156]

I want ajax ultimate so bad but from what ive seen he is the most time consuming ult to get (not the hardest tho)

[@PeaceDeliverer]

I don't get it I'm running transcendent module that says ultimate ajax exclusive and AJAX exclusive, i don't have ultimate, some kinda scam to get a bit extra stat power and skins for a lot of money or long grind..😮

[@supremevato5297]

No one wants to bring this up 😭

[@Loukingree]

Thanks for this!

[@Danny-zw7sw]

It matters because of the High Voltage mod simply being locked to Ultimate Bunny only. Scummy move but yes it matters for that single reason.

[@LordMungo]

Are you talking aboit the skill mod? Sure I jave it from juat farming.

[@Danny-zw7sw]

@@LordMungo it drops from hard Pyro boss only and it can’t be used on normal Bunny, only Ultimate Bunny.

[@frealsolidusauxil5873]

Yup some skill augments are locked for ultimates only makes it necessary to get them.

[@jrod7929]

Honestly I don't see it as "scummy". Personally I like having something to work towards. Even if it takes a few weeks.

[@Y4ngCP]

​@@jrod7929this... its better having a goal them hving everything easy

[@juakored]

I think this is an issue that basically nobody is really talking about. Locking mods to ultimate descendants is just beyond scummy. Specially when the grind for them is so absurdly frustrating. Comparing this game to Warframe, the prime Warframes are basically skins. Ironically they're usually easier to get than their counterparts to the point where you're oftentimes better off waiting for the prime version of a Warframe instead of going for it's regular alternative. I honestly hate this, and can see myself quitting the game in the near future because of it.

[@Fackletard]

So just quit now.

[@TheTudius1]

Thanks this was very helpful

[@peagames2002]

You all go for ultimate due it's cake. I go for her ultimate due her increased MaxHP. That cake would take any kind of punishment if given proper mods.

[@lonsmith2791]

FYI the way you show finding certain reactors only works in hard mode. Normal mode does not comply with this clip.

[@rafaelgalindo4794]

I am sorry, but for the amount of time it takes to farm for an ultimate, they need to buff ALL OF THEM at least in the stats. Needs to be way more than normal characters. Either if you are buying one or farming for one, its time consuming/pricey. They need to reward us more for an ultimate.

[@jeffrey778]

ult toons have 8% more hp,def, shield. also its mastery exp you cant otherwise get. i would be pretty sure they are essential for reaching max mastery is people care about that thing.

[@stephenparsons-st6lp]

I wouldn't spend that kind of money for a ultimate or normal character it's not worth it I wouldn't even spend that kind on a full game

[@fall5923]

Will the game be balance more towards the ultimate character? If so I'm quitting ahead.

[@potatopc9205]

but farming ultimate in this game is bullshit nexon want the players to buy it farming is impossible you cant get all ultimate bp in this game cuz the drop is 0% the 3 - 6% is a joke

[@Blubs91]

Impossible? Not at all. But it does take long time. I got the ultimate bunny after 70 hours

[@wraithhe]

Idk man it's all rng, I have all the ultimates in the game except Ultimate Ajax and I only played like 2-3 hours daily

[@lorzkotzros]

​@@wraithhedayum. I am still in campaign tho haha

[@thomasearl3864]

wow... i thought the difference would be clear and day like warframe where stats across the bored were better..

[@mayasamsara]

Can you use high voltage from Ultimate Bunny in regular Bunny which is fully maxed with catalysts? That is the main question.. Forget the skin.. Because do you have to make a whole new ultimate bunny with the catalysts.. Or do you have to do the while grind fest again.. No one answers that...

[@jordanheath7353]

I don’t believe you can use high-voltage on regular bunny because it’s ultimate bunny exclusive. One of the reasons I’m leaving the game.

[@Y4ngCP]

​@@jordanheath7353leaving a grind gme because of grind 😂 thats new

[@jordanheath7353]

@@Y4ngCP I like grind games, but if you’re trying not to spend all your money and mid Max this grind is way too brutal. a beast of a different kind from other grinding games I’ve played. But I get what you’re saying.

[@ii_Duzzy]

Those differences are huge imo

[@Coldskin1]

I got an 10k hp bunny and i saw an ultimate bunny get one shotted by minnons 🤣

[@christopherlancop3386]

Viessa is pronounced Vi-Essa. They literally say it in game. COME ON!

[@ragingstiffy926]

Na bro it's visa

[@khaosterminator]

I think people are forgetting that you add the stats these characters get from prestiging . If ult bunny starts with 2 more sockets than bunny, then level bunny enough that you use 2 catalysts on her. then check what the base stats and compare.

[@supervegha7958]

R u saying formaing a descendent buffs their stats at lvl 40?

[@DrunkDjinn]

Can you explain this a bit more? I’d like to understand.

[@calceus2640]

he is clueless and saying nonsese when you reset and re lvl u will always get the same stat

[@wraithhe]

I think what he's trying to say is, Ultimates come with 2-3 Catalyzed slots compared to the single Catalyzed slots on normal variants, basically giving you a pretty good boost for mod capacity from the beginning

[@kerrykiehl6386]

What website are you using to see the difference? Can you link that?

[@jada_9827]

prime warframe are virtually useless apart from prime Volt and a couple others, but ultimate descendants are Sadly more powerful... gotta farm or swipe :(

[@waffleking9317]

Ultimate characters are just a scam. $60 to buy it or a 50 hour farm for the parts is not worth it for a slight buff in stats. A good build and weapon melt bosses. There is no need for a little bit more defense when the boss dies in 30 seconds.

[@darthvocrum5719]

Not worth the money