First electric HGVs hit UK roads under Electric Freightway programme

We're delighted to announce the first electric trucks to be delivered under the Electric Freightway programme are now operating on UK roads. A.F. Blakemore & Son is the largest SPAR wholesaler in the UK and specialises in food supply and distribution across both retail and wholesale sectors. This family-owned business now has two Volvo FM Electric tractor units operating from its 175,000 sq ft Bedford Depot and, based on the success of the Electric Freightway programme, is planning to order more eHGVs that will directly replace roles performed by diesel-powered equivalents.
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[@coderider3022]

So this is just a really expensive trial funded by gov ?

[@stuartwood5448]

Not government- you

[@orionbetelgeuse1937]

the gov makes all sorts of trials with your money

[@reverendbluejeans1748]

I like the idea of these trucks, but it is not moral of government is involved

[@reverendbluejeans1748]

I wonder why they dont have cameras for mirrors. Seen a lot of trucks like that this year.

[@alexrobinson2281]

I used to deliver to Blakemore years ago , Wolverhampton or Willenhall , can’t remember , what I can remember was it was a shithole and all their lorries were scrap , you could sit there for hours , nobody gave a toss

[@samuelprice538]

Every time I see those huge warehouse style buildings without a single solar panel I cry a little inside. Now that they are running EV lorries maybe they will be extra incentivised ???

[@user-un1yb8bn5j]

Unfortunately most of those big warehouses are not owned by the companies using them but investment firms, pension funds etc. They have zero incentive to have solar panels.

[@markiliff]

@@user-un1yb8bn5j Fair point, but not exactly "zero" if they price the panels' output right

[@AndreiBiserica-wh8ge]

Look better, you will see the panels.

[@iareid8255]

Samuel, while it may sound counter intuitive, solar panels are a dreadful way to generate electrcity. This is true evrn in very sunny countries but in our latitude they are very, very poor. They produce very little for four months over winter when we need power the most. They generate when the sun shines but that does not match the grid demand. Not only that but it is necessary to have conventional capacity as well, i.e., two systems doing one job. Unfortunately we have a parliament that is universally technically illiterate and do not understand the negatives. One thing is very certain we pay dearly for these devices in our electricty bills.

[@madsam0320]

Solar panels have gone down a lot in price, most of the cost are in installations and more so with time. Now, that won’t be much of a problem for newly built warehouses and distribution centres. Maybe roofing materials can incorporate solar panels on them, they can also be sold competitively with the sellers getting a cut out of the electricity sold to the tenants and the grids. I think there was an American company doing that but they failed. Maybe it’s because of the high cost of solar at that time, plus they install the panels themselves on existing roofs. What I suggest is the company only provides the roofing/solar panels.

[@robwallace266]

I could do my job with one of these. It would be flat half way through the shift. I read somewhere that these had a range of about 300km if that. I Hope the drivers carrying night out kit. He will need it.

[@agentbertram4769]

AND the milage will fall with age.

[@kaybee5150]

So HGVs have a limit of 44 tonnes, does that mean they will have to carry less goods because of the extra weight of the battery? If that's so, surely they will need more trucks on the road, meaning more expensive free green electricity to charge them meaning food price rises. that will be paid for by the customer.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Green energy is cheaper tthan fossil fuel energy.

[@jondrizzle4554]

@@rogerphelps9939 absolutely bullshit

[@MikeTheBike58]

They do indeed carry less,so yes more trucks/runs required to deliver what a normal HGV can do

[@tdrv33]

Incendiary bomb on wheels.

[@adienowed6366]

It should be made illegal to cover perfectly good land with wretched solar panels-put them on the acres and acres of flat roofs of factory buildings and the like,which are already in place across the country.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Actually hey make very good sense on marginal land and a farmer can make more money from solar panels. Furthermore farming under solar panels is no precluded. Sheep will provide a free mowing service and the microclimate is good for many producs.

[@johnbishop4125]

Local skip company had one on a trail, it was 2 ton heavier so couldn’t carry as much, went flat in about 4 hours on local work. Charge time was about 3 hours plus They got rid of it very quickly 😂

[@MikeTheBike58]

My mate is a skip lorry driver and his firm are getting one next week...I doubt it will be there for long.

[@waynenash6008]

Can look forward to 24 he motorway closures when one of these goes up,🤔

[@thisisnumber0]

How many days will it take to extinguish a fire? How many days will the road be closed?

[@helpmelearn1181]

Where is the power coming from to “charge” all these vehicles?

[@simontemplarGB]

Fairy dust?

[@50mi55ile]

Electric tractor unit pulling a fridge trailer that is using a diesel engine to power the fridge unit

[@markpritchard]

How do you decarbonise the mining for the rare metals needed to make the batteries? I think batteries will be there one day but they are not there yet. One the other hand you have to live with less perfect tecnology untill it advances and they find more enviroment ways of making the batterys.

[@CastleKnight7]

Can’t wait to see these out on the road. 👍

[@keithslater7813]

But how much do they cost and what do they weigh

[@homertrix]

Good to see the progress. Would be interesting to hear the drivers' perspectives in terms of how it impacts their working environment.

[@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270]

Yes. A missed opportunity perhaps?

[@ramblerandy2397]

​@@foppo101If we base the driving experience on... say a diluted version of the Tesla Semi, I suspect that the driving experience is a damn sight easier than chugging through the gears, auto or not, of a traditional ICE truck. Steep uphills driven with ease, and steeps downhills should never present an issue again. And you get some power back, and no brake issues or runouts either.

[@user-rr8fm9ez8d]

@@ramblerandy2397I know Buses have a roll back button to stop them from rolling back on hills.

[@tommaguzzi1723]

This is not progress. How do you think the electricity for these things is generated?

[@homertrix]

@@tommaguzzi1723 in various ways with a rapidly greening grid. Even with a 100% coal based grid the emissions are lower compared to extracting, refining, distributing and burning diesel.

[@beau5757]

Ludicrous😩1/3 of the payload lost carting round a stupid battery. Are these people real

[@MikeTheBike58]

Indeed,most firms will simply not buy them.

[@ElliotsM3]

We got electric rigids 😂😂 has a 120 mile range

[@Dominik-ys6gb]

Didn't one of this two recdntly suffer frome thermal escape? I heard some rumors on the streets.

[@jimrobinson6362]

'funded by government' = another green project paid for by u n me

[@sic1038]

And I’m delighted that we are!

[@Jimmyd93502]

@@sic1038 Google "cobalt mine" and tell me you're still delighted.

[@busog97641]

*I'm not sure if this was a video about electric lorries or a bloody disco sound track!* Turn the music down... no, it DOESN'T need ANY music at all.

[@biggobmalc8118]

What a great publicity stunt, maybe it will work for a small and Insignificant number of trucks. Then the cost of building, maintaining, the infrastructure necessary just to support the charging of such a small number of units would be horrendously expensive, especially if you're thinking of double shifting trucks as outlined in the video. The amount of power required to charge these vehicles would be off the scale and comparable to a small town and would most likely outstrip any savings made on fuel costs, for decades to come if ever.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

Battery electric is the only way to drastically lower CO2 emissions, whether you like it or not.

[@biggobmalc8118]

@@Simon-dm8zv Is it what about hydrogen. Hydrogen is the most abundant chemical element estimated to contribute 75 % of the mass of the universe. We Need to invest in the technology needed the convert this abundant gas into a carbon free energy source. Battery power and battery technology may on the surface look exceedingly green and CO2 free. However, unlike Hydrogen, many of the component parts of a battery are derived from materials that are mined in far off distant countries, using mechanical excavators all powered by fossil fuels, creating unknown amounts of CO2.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@biggobmalc8118 As we all know by now, hydrogen will always remain far too inefficient for most applications. Raw materials required for hydrogen are also huge as we will need 3 times as many wind turbines, solar panels and other sources of electricity to power the same number of vehicles. Also, hydrogen fuel cell cars require platinum, lithium, cobalt and many other materials too. It’s a run race and has been for a while.

[@johnwenzel2003]

It will be interesting to see how the logistics evolve, best of luck.

[@rumpoh8039]

GUY FAWKES - PATRO N SAINT OF EV'S

[@nottmfunguy]

Whats the range? How long does it take to charge them? I assume at least a few hours? Not sure the average operator can afford to have trucks sitting around for ages charging, losing money!

[@CANC3ROUS]

Great work, but any chance you can reduce your public charging cost, they are extortionate

[@caljeff2427]

imagine the battery fire from one of those bastards

[@user-rr8fm9ez8d]

It’s really good but please can i ask if the HGV batteries will last the distance? I know that batteries on buses run low quite quickly.

[@billyray323]

I look forward to driving one some day soon

[@Wilem35]

They won't need drivers by then.

[@davidmccall2897]

You can't be serious, you need your head examined.

[@watchtheskies]

Very cool 🙃

[@dieseldragon6756]

Seeing that one of the partners in this is Hitachi, surely the „Oven ready“ approach would be to install 25kV catenary on sections of motorway where _charge in cruise_ would be practicable, and fit each of the eTrucks with the same pantographs they use on the Class 800s? 🚄⚡🚚💡😋

[@marvinsamuels1237]

Great work Sam and the team at GridServe 👏🏾👏🏾

[@user-gh2rk4st4o]

They are expensive and can't be used 24 7 as they will have to be changed up they won't last long and when the battery is knackered the replacement cost will be astronomical absolute garbage

[@watchmrcontent]

Great to see electric trucks coming, but at 2:06 - a great big roof, with precious little solar PV on it.....

[@paulsherwood6010]

It’s only carbon free if you use renewable energy..not gas powered electricity stations..all your doing is pushing carbon use on to another company 🤗

[@barrydavis3044]

More scrap bombs on the road. Biggest bollocks I've heard.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

Why do you think so?

[@LordClunk]

Electric trucks. Diesel Fridge trailers.

[@jontyrocks3]

Electric ones are slowly becoming available. Fridge trailers last many years so companies won’t want to scrap working ones with years of life left in them, they aren’t cheap 😂

[@Simon-dm8zv]

Even if that is the case, still a million times better. Fridge diesel consumption is tiny compared to drivetrain.

[@adienowed6366]

Another load of tomfool nonsense,in the vague hope that this notion on net zero will somehow materialise and 'save the planet'.

[@andrewwright8633]

Good morning everyone how come none of the political buses are electric. Can you answer me that . Thanks for reading .

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

i am a trucker and this is bs, they've been electric lorries in uk for a while now. i've seen them in the flesh. one parked next to me at spar no less at least 6 moths ago.

[@jondrizzle4554]

Junk Give me a good ol diesel with 18 manual gears Preferably a scania v8😂

[@Simon-dm8zv]

You like air and noise pollution and climate change?

[@jondrizzle4554]

@Simon-dm8zv the climate always changes and how much crap and pollution was spewed out the vehicles that mined the minerals out the ground for these piles of junk ?? Just because nothing comes out an exhaust doesn't mean its a green so called vehicle Diesels are extremely clean now Climate change is a tax The end

[@jondrizzle4554]

Hahahah what a clown So electric junk, how is it made ? Plenty of fossil fuelled vehicles mining the minerals out the ground to make it

[@jondrizzle4554]

@@Simon-dm8zv there is no climate crisis

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@jondrizzle4554 Haha I knew it

[@rogerphelps9939]

No Tesla cybertruck nonsense tthis side of the pond.

[@jimpackard8059]

Ryder , the truck leasing company in the States have just said that there is little or no demand for EV trucks. Surprise.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

Oh a truck leasing company in the US. Well then it must be true for the whole world!

[@jimpackard8059]

@@Simon-dm8zv no, for sure it is only relevant to the States but it is a massive market so is a big clue as to why the EV truck market has no mass market future. This research is not from You Tubers but hard nosed businessmen.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@jimpackard8059 Well, the EV truck obviously has a mass market value (also in the US), just not right now.

[@jimpackard8059]

@@Simon-dm8zvThe general view in the UK freight industry is that because the batteries are so much heavier than a diesel , EV trucks can only operate fixed routes with lightweight goods. Like Pepsi. There is no way that EVs can work for the general freight network. Battery weight will always be an issue.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@jimpackard8059 Battery electric is the most sensible solution, we simply have to make it work. And we will. Weight hasn’t been an issue anymore for a while. It mostly comes down to charging networks now.

[@jmckerral1]

What a joke, they made me wait 5 hours to unload and took 2 hours to then unload 2 pallets when I got on the bay....!! All this time my diesel fridge was running....!! Go figure

[@trs4u]

0:42 "decarbonisation" is a tragic error for UK Net Zero, which I hope someone in a suit will spot soon. There are lots of very carbon-intensive applications (aviation, marine, defence are good examples) which we should be NetZeroing *first*. The obvious way to do that is to renewably synthesise their fuels. Renewable synthesis won't be cheap (it'll be domestic instead of imported), but *price performance advantage* is what should be determining consumer choice instead of the soviet-style diktat we've got now. If we started with gas for our power stations, it would make EVs properly NetZero instead of 'pretend NetZero' while they're being charged from the output of fossil-fuelled power stations.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

Yes, some applications will require synthetic fuels, but it is not necessary to give priority to that at all. The vast majority of road vehicles will become battery electric because it is simply the most efficient solution. Every EV on the road directly saves hundreds of tons of CO2.

[@trs4u]

@@Simon-dm8zv It *is* necessary to give it priority because the EV saving isn't as great as it could be while we still generate electricity with fossil gas. The EV efficiency advantage over ICE isn't that great - we could have achieved a similar drop in CO₂ emissions in the UK by mandating slightly smaller/lighter cars. I doubt that would have met as much resistance (with consumers) as "you must have EV". The goal is NetZero, not NetABitLess. The better efficiency argument is undeniable - I think people who can realise it without added cost would have bought EVs anyway.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@trs4u EVs are considerably more efficient than combustion engine cars, even if compared to small combustion engine cars. So that wouldn’t come close at all. Making synthetic fuels with renewable energy that doesn’t exist in the quantities required is many times less effective than charging EVs with it. Synthetic fuels will be needed for aviation and shipping, but is decades away.

[@trs4u]

@@Simon-dm8zv "considerably" isn't nearly as much as some people think, often after they've had a look at comparisons based on model, global, or somewhere-else data. EVs are more efficient. In the UK the same reduction available from enforced EVs could have been obtained by enforcing lower kerb weights on vehicles - that's how little the difference is given that a large part of our electricity is fossil-generated in a way that's very difficult to reduce. UK has many, many times more renewable potential in offshore wind (and pretty much nothing else) than our entire economy needs. Closing the got-wind/burn-gas gap has an obvious answer.

[@trs4u]

@@Simon-dm8zv sorry I realise after posting I'm repeating myself. Forgot we'd already exchanged. Renewably-charged EVs are the holy grail, of course, but I think many people who can to any degree due to homegen are already making the switch. A large proportion of the remainder have no option but to charge with fossil-generated electricity, as industrial users no doubt (because their needs may far exceed their own' renewable potential) will. We've already eaten the best bits of the EV cake.

[@davidspencer7232]

Utter insanity diesel will win every time.

[@chriswilliams8607]

Nonsense, it's about time to get rid of diesel trucks. It is completely insane to burn valuable fossile ressources in cars or trucks, only morons would want to keep it that way. EVs save about 70% of primary energy, besides the facts that ICE cars and trucks are a disaster for the environment.

[@roddymcniven8734]

🙈

[@phatmeow7764]

unless the roads are peppered with ultra-high voltage chargers to cater to HGV electrics these would be an utter waster of time and money! only fit for short haul/distances..

[@jimpackard8059]

Everyone in the trade knows that they are only fit for lightweight loads on short haul. Even Tesla does not list the payload on their website

[@chriswilliams8607]

Yes, thats exactly what will happen, we need to build a decent charging infrastructure, but that is pretty cheap, compared to the huge costs of ICE cars and trucks, and their disastrous environmental impact. EVs save about 70% of primary energy compared to ICE cars, so transition will be pretty fast once people start realizing that.

[@simontemplarGB]

Can't wait to see the pyrotechnics when all that carbon footprint goes up in flames.

[@ZA26]

Good luck charging 60 of them at the services at the same time

[@timrothwell33]

I am always surprised that companies pay for experts to work on their projects when all they need to do is ask the opinions of a sad, unemployed middle-aged man living in a bedsit and hiding behind an anonymous account ID for the answers.

[@ZA26]

I only asked after seeing a HGV vlogger struggling to find a place at the motorway services and hearing how long it was taking to get a large grid connections. I wish electric HGV worked but I don't understand how you are going to charge them.

[@callumcurtis15]

​@@ZA26100% there are big challenges to making it all work, but it can work if people want it to. I think the main issue is that people are only looking at one solution, when it is a combination of energy storage and generation types that will make this change work .

[@kennshearer526]

Excellent effort. Yes it will take time to make things work but as they say you have to start somewhere. We forget how much pollution is caused by heavy transport moving our stuff around so let’s be supportive.

[@Wilem35]

@@timrothwell33 LOL

[@stevenkillington5041]

Way off what we want ev are not the future

[@Simon-dm8zv]

You are clueless

[@bertiewooster3326]

Explain to me why we need EV trucks ?these must be horrendous polluters

[@chriswilliams8607]

Is this a serious question? EVs save about 70% primary energy, and have a full load of other environmental advantages. Especially for trucks, as they have very high yearly mileage, cost reduction and reduction of environmental burden is a huge factor and it's about time to get serious to stop the insane waste of precious fossile ressources, powering cars and trucks with fossile fuels is completely insane, and still a ton of people just don't get it. Besides the fact that these ressources are valuable and limited (and will run out within 50 to 100 years!), an ICE car or truck uses only about 20 percent of the fuel it burns, the rest is going out to the chimney as heat. Overall efficiency from EVs is at least 3 times higher, in city or high traffic situations its more 4 or 5 times higher.

[@penlam]

@@chriswilliams8607 If EVs are so great why does the gov and the taxpayer have to subsidize your plans. Put a EV charging station on your lot and use the EVs for your deliveries where practical for your enterprise. If it's economically viable then great, if not it's on you and your shareholders. And let's be really honest, if the environment was in such a spot you should be cutting down on deliveries not trying to find ways to maintain or increase the distribution of volumes of useless crap from overseas.

[@chriswilliams8607]

@@penlam EV subsidies are a great myth, you people have no clue how much public money goes into oil, coal and nuclear industry. If EVs would get half of that, we would have 100% EVs by now. In general it is always a good idea to subsidise cutting edge technology, that is always very expensive at the beginning due to extensive developlment and research costs. Look at photovoltaik modules, they were a 100 times more expensive in the beginning, and now they cost almost nothing, that would not have been possible without public funding. We would live in the stoneage if we would not put money in useful and promising technologies.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@chriswilliams8607exactly

[@penlam]

@@chriswilliams8607 I did not say not to invest in technology and I never stated that I am against EVs. What I'm saying if the investment in this technology is such a wise idea, you pay for it. There are so many ways to reduce pollution and by replacing one infrastructure with another and continuing to advocate for imports from across the world is not going to do it. Why not focus attention on moving goods that people really need, not want they want or feel they must have. In the mean time the governments of the world are taxing their residents to pay for this green infrastructure and in the end may not actually provide for a better outcome. And thank you for lumping me in with the 'you people' category. On that note I disagree that any government should be underwriting these industries. Let the cost stand for itself and the consumer will decide their best options. But the reality is that one group, or company or government will find a way to pull the carpet out from under the other thus creating an unfair playing field. If vehicle fuel in Canada went to $3.00 CDN per litre or more there would possibly be a lot less Ford F150s on the road and more Honda Civics or bicycles. Much of the argument for personal EVs is the cost. But if the cost of the new infrastructure which ultimately the tax payer funds is not in the numbers then how can the consumer make an informed decision. This goes for the trucking industry as well. If those costs are buried, then the true cost will never be realized and we will continue to waste resources regardless of the energy source and the technology.

[@charliewood9070]

The first and the last electric trucks. Utter insanity.

[@chriswilliams8607]

Nonsense, it's about time to get rid of diesel trucks. It is completely insane to burn valuable fossile ressources in cars or trucks, only morons would want to keep it that way. EVs save about 70% of primary energy, besides the facts that ICE cars and trucks are a disaster for the environment.

[@colingaskell9571]

No thanks never battery electic

[@davidmccall2897]

What ever you do do not park near a truck from A F BLAKEMORE if one of those catches fire and they will then you had better stand well away.

[@jimpackard8059]

Yes, really scarey

[@JohnR31415]

More like don’t park next to a diesel truck - more likely to catch fire…

[@rogerhanbury677]

🤣🤣🤣

[@trevornelmes9331]

I cannot begin to quantify what a huge, monumentally poor decision this will be seen to have been. They will run out of charge somewhere very inconvenient, like a live lane on a busy motorway, or indeed any road or road junction. Who has the recovery vehicles to move one of these things when they break down? A mobile mechanic turns up, sees it is an EV truck, and says he is not qualified, trained or insured to touch it, and walks away. How long do they take to charge again? A 'fast' charge would require a massive current of electricity. What does the driver do while all this is going on? I can see these have tramper cabs, so what about the power drain all night? What happens when the battery pack in one decides to cook off? We had an EV car fire up the road from where I live (after an accident at a local black spot). It took multiple fire appliances over a day to 'extinguish' the fire. They were lucky, it happened less than a mile from the local fire station, but that is soon due to be converted to a 'part time' facility with no paid staff due to budget cuts fairly soon. It happened next to a brook that feeds the local river after a few metres, and all the pollution ran straight in to that. Three days before the road reopened, because the entire carriageway was destroyed for about 10 metres either side of the burning EV. Green washing in its purest sense of idiocy. Someone is going to lose a LOT of money over this, and people will lose their jobs.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

You are so clueless. Inform yourself, all scientific information on EVs and renewables is easy to find.

[@trevornelmes9331]

@@Simon-dm8zv So says an EV evangelist.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@trevornelmes9331 You are clearly not interested in reality so you can feel comfortable to keep everything the way it is.

[@trevornelmes9331]

@@Simon-dm8zv Reality is, we need to do something. Reality is, EV's and Hydrogen power is NOT the solution. And we are wasting time pretending that they are. Do YOU drive an EV? I do not. I bought a 10 year old non-running Kia Picanto, fixed all the faults on it for a small sum, thus saving it from being scrapped. I am retired, on a very small income, and cannot afford to buy an EV. I used to drive trucks, I know how that business works, and the demands on drivers, very well. Did you ever wonder how much of the earth was dug up and spoiled forever to make one of those new EV trucks? How much fossil fuel was used to make it and deliver it? How much extra damage to the roads the weight of the batteries will cause, or the increased number of tyres it will chew up, or the damage to tarmac those same tyres will cause? The huge cost to install all the cabling and sub stations to make chargers for those trucks? Where will that electricity come from? Fossil fueled power stations. Total insanity, if you add it all up. Did you know that EV car makers are losing up to £200,000 per car they make/sell? Who on earth is funding them, goodness knows. I fully expect to see this EV truck maker go the same way as Arrival. Arrival were once worth 'US$13bn' some say. I would bet they lost billions if you factor everything in. There is an economic and social reality. Now that the early adopters have bought their trophy EV (and since parked it on one side and have gone back to driving their petrol Range Rovers), real people simply are not buying EVs. Volvo EV sales down 67%. Tesla laying off employees in large numbers. Fields and fields full of unsold EVs, some well over a year old. Real people have household budgets and real lives, and cannot afford EVs, cannot afford the hassles, cannot afford the insurance (if they can find anyone to insure them) and cannot afford to write off the depreciation. Government can dictate all it wants. It cannot force people to buy these useless, soulless lumps of lithium and aluminium.

[@Jkreds]

Calm down 😂😂

[@ivortoad]

Lol

[@squishedfrog99-gp4qq]

Our motorways just became a lot more dangerous.

[@steve7535]

It’s great will be loads of sitting around all day charging I can’t wait

[@bst1623]

Tell us you don't know anything about EVs without telling us you don't know anything about EVs.

[@st-ex8506]

No need to charge during the day, except perhaps during the mandatory driving pause. The charging is being done at night, or in-between shifts in case of dual-shift operations. You don't seem to know much about EVs!

[@steve7535]

Dream on

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@bst1623exactly 😂

[@nottmfunguy]

@@st-ex8506 You also do know transportation of goods, which a lot of drivers prefer night driving. E.g. more use of battery resources. So when a driver is tramping and needs his parking lights on and night heater on, you are going to say what to him?

[@stevecrisell108]

EV's Green As Black.

[@terryevans7055]

Good luck. You will be out competed by diesel every day.

[@chriswilliams8607]

Diesel trucks will stand no chance once EV trucks are common, as they not only save about 70% primary energy compared to diesel trucks, the total cost per mile will be half or less.

[@jimpackard8059]

@@chriswilliams8607 the Tesla video showing a fully loaded (musk’s words) Semi was carrying only a third of what a diesel could carry. Nothing more to say.

[@chriswilliams8607]

@@jimpackard8059 Nonsense, battery truck weights 2,4 tons more than diesel, don't spread fakenews, fully loaded is 40 tons, so the difference is very small.

[@craiggreen4388]

It's a positive that our air quality will improve. But this video is a bunch of overpaid office monkeys speaking in riddles, whilst crediting themselves for coming up with a scheme to buy a few eHGV's. Surely the credit lies with the designers & R&D depts associated with actually creating the trucks?

[@storytimewithunclekumaran5004]

scam... green anything is a scam...

[@chriswilliams8607]

You slept the last 10 years under a rock? The whole world starts realizing that electric vehicles are much cleaner, much cheaper and require just a fraction of maintenance. Why do you think even in Africa they are starting to build charging infrastructure and trying to implement EVs? Beause every sane person who looks into it, understands that it is simply absurd to burn fossile ressources in trucks and cars.

[@storytimewithunclekumaran5004]

@@chriswilliams8607 enjoy the kool-aid Jim Jones waiting for you . its a scam.. I love tech but am smart enough to know the E.V scam is far from organic . greatest scam perpetuated on man after the KOOF ..

[@storytimewithunclekumaran5004]

@@chriswilliams8607 cleaner ..?? are u ill informed ??

[@chriswilliams8607]

@@storytimewithunclekumaran5004 No, but i live in reality, while you are living in bubble dreamland. If you seriously doubt that EVs are far cleaner, than you have no clue whatsoever, and are obviously falling for nonsense propaganda of some crap channels. Face reality, besides the oil industry and some legacy car companies that completely failed in EVs no nobody wants to stick with ICE.

[@speedbirdavation9832]

Lip service, false promises

[@jimrichards3916]

What a complete waste of money. We in the UK can't afford to go chasing after the Nett Zero BS. WE as a country are a pinprick in the world of emissions.

[@otto2468]

What a great idea if you have 5000 wind turbines so you can charge them

[@Wilem35]

We have abundant green hydro power to charge them. No windmills required.

[@stephenclay6852]

I love a cynic.

[@otto2468]

@@Wilem35 i guess you don't realize how much energy it takes to charge a truck battery.

[@Wilem35]

@@otto2468 I certainly do. Did you have a point to make?

[@backacheache]

I am not great at maths, but with these having between a 40 to 80MW battery and the average wind turbine producing 3 -4 MW I am not sure where the 5000 figure comes from

[@user-ge6dy1ru6x]

Can they transport a 30 tonne shipping container??? 😅😅😅

[@jimpackard8059]

No

[@chriswilliams8607]

Yes of course, Tesla Semi 40 truck has about 700km range in day to day operation, it can charge in 30 minutes to 70 percent and go another 500km.

[@chriswilliams8607]

@@jimpackard8059 why not? Off course, you can electrify evey vehicle, and it will always save about 70% energy compared to it's combustion engine counterpart.

[@jimpackard8059]

It cannot carry 30 tonne because Semi truck incl battery weighs about 20 tonne - empty. It would get great for shipping popcorn.

[@chriswilliams8607]

@@jimpackard8059 Tesla Semi weighs 2,4 tons more than conventional truck, fully loaded with 40 tons total weight this difference is very little. Tesla semi saves depending on mileage 50.000 to 100.000 dollar per year in fuel costs, why do you think they have advanced orders for many years?

[@jimpackard8059]

Love the idea of cleaner transport but these trucks will only work with lightweight, local loads. The theory is flawed. Go away and come back when you have a technology that actually works for the mass freight market. That is what we need

[@st-ex8506]

But electric trucks are already fit for the mass freight markets, especially in Europe... a bit less in North America, which allows longer driving hours! In Europe, a (well-engineered... not all are...) electric truck has an equivalent or slightly HIGHER payload than a diesel rig, and a range longer than what a driver is allowed to drive in a day!

[@jimpackard8059]

@@st-ex8506 sorry but EV trucks simply do not have payloads as big as diesel trucks. Lorries have a max total weight so the battery weight which is vastly higher than a diesel engine means that the load weight is greatly reduced.

[@st-ex8506]

@@jimpackard8059 Yes, the batteries are indeed heavier than a diesel engine. That much is true. BUT, they weigh about the same as that diesel engine plus its transmission plus a tank and 100-150 gallons of fuel, plus an oil system, plus a cooling system, plus an ignition system, plus an exhaust system, plus the extra metal necessary throughout the whole truck to sustain the vibration of said diesel engine, etc. When you consider everything, an electric truck, like the Tesla Semi, weighs no more than about 2-3000 pounds more than an equivalent diesel rig. As electric trucks are allowed a 2000 pound bonus gross weight in the USA, their payload is only 0-1000 pounds less than a diesel. But, electric trucks are given a 2 metric tons (4400 lb) bonus in Europe. So, their payload there is actually about 2000 pounds HIGHER! So, you are pretty ill-informed on what electric trucks really weigh! They DO have perfectly comparable payloads! Final note: very little... only around 10%... of trucking operations are at full-load... and those are mostly short-distance ones. So, payload is not even a major criteria for some 90% of operations!

[@homertrix]

@@jimpackard8059 I recommend you check the legislation on EV trucks and weight limits, along with the actual load factor of the average truck in Europe (inc. UK).

[@jimpackard8059]

@@homertrix I come from this industry and we all know that if you increase the weight of the empty truck, you reduce the payload. EV trucks are much too heavy for the mass market

[@robdavies6022]

Still charged by fossil fuel.