First Impressions: Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro vs. DT 990 Pro

[@5wappy]

Follow up video now live - "1 Year Later: Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro vs. DT 990 Pro" @ kzbin.info/www/bejne/joLHfmmphLqXf9k

[@AlpacaV2]

Hey, I have DT 990 PRO and I have a mixer that doesn't power my headset properly I got the 250ohms version wondering what mixer do you use for it thank you!

[@5wappy]

@@AlpacaV2 I used a schitt audio dac/amp compo to power my headset.

[@devonpulley1689]

I've been using 990s since my freshman year of college in 2016. I use them for everything at my pc. Thousands of hours through them and they're still an amazing set of headphones. 10/10

[@5wappy]

They truly are awesome.

[@AmperahGaming]

German headphone magic :)

[@badgerjeff6081]

Nice review. This is a good example of entering the "diminishing returns" level of headphones. DT 990 Pros, while polarizing, are a great headphone for the prince. The DT 1990s are better, but not 2.5 times better than the DT 990s. A better amp can oftentimes make these differences clearer - bass slam, instrument separation, sound stage, etc. I agree that most people will be very happy with the DT 990s or 880s and $300 in their pocket rather than the DT 1990s. I have all three! Nice review.

[@5wappy]

I couldn't have said it better!

[@laggmonstret]

Yeah, and You also must consider what content you're gonna use them for. Games and compressed audio from KZbin? Well then maybe not worth the price gap. I myself returned mines and using the much cheaper Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 R (what a name lol) because they felt way more comfortable mostly due to less weight and clamping force but still gives me good enough sound. They're also open back and do seem to have better build quality then the DT 990's, never owned a pair though.

[@Princeton_James]

880s with an EQ like the Loki (if you're into that) and you are set.

[@badgerjeff6081]

@@Princeton_James Can't argue with that recommendation!

[@Princeton_James]

@@badgerjeff6081 I just got some K712 Pros today and they'll be going back. That's a $400 dollar headphone and I compared them to my 880s. Once again the 880s destroyed them.

[@AroundtheHouse]

Really good thorough review. Appreciate the honesty

[@5wappy]

Thank you so much!

[@stewwytim]

Thank you for your review. I appreciate that you went straight to the point of your comparison.

[@5wappy]

Thank you!

[@dmytrotarasov9477]

You can wash those pads and pinch them around when they're wet to restore the cushion thickness. I do that once every month or two and they're still like new.

[@5wappy]

Nice, I didn't know that.

[@KingdomKey57]

Good review! I have the Beyerdynamic T1 Gen 2. It would be interesting to redo the review using a different DAC/Amp. For example, I used to use the Magni/Modi 3 for the 600 ohm T1's, but switched to the Asgard 3 Amp and noticed a significant difference in sound quality. It is quite possible the dt1990 requires a bit more juice than your current setup is allowing. I also think it is worth mentioning not all the dt990's are the same. The different ohms versions of the 990 all sound a bit different (32, 80, 250, 600).

[@5wappy]

Thanks! I have no doubts the quality and power of the amp will make a difference. I noticed the sound got better when I moved from my GoXLR to Schiit Magni 3+.

[@dreamstatee]

I just bought these for 420USD. I have the 990s as well. A little worried now as you said the difference is so slight, but very excited to see how they turn our for me :) Appreciate the honest review!

[@5wappy]

I would love to hear what you think of them after you use them for a bit.

[@demon-ll9eg]

so im in market for 1 should i get dt990 or should i go for dt 1990 ?

[@kaukey]

I loved the DT 990s. All the reviewers trash them. I returned numerous 600$ + headphones in favor of these. (HD 660s / Audeze Mobius..etc). I also had the DT 880 600 ohms...which had a bit more clarity in the highs/mids...but lower bass. I returned those too because the minor clarity boost just wasn't as good as the 990's. I just got Focal Clears for a whopping 1500$ 2 days ago. They are very good and certainly an upgrade. (Bass is great and everything is beautifully clear) but I certainly question the price tag and will probably return these too. I also need to EQ the Focals or they sound strange (everything but bass sounds dampened) to me. For a reasonable price I can't find a good value upgrade to the 990's. The 1990's were a set I haven't tried yet..so I am glad you posted this.

[@5wappy]

Dang you buy more headphones than me. I still love the DT 990s too, they are the best value out there for excellent open backs. I do really enjoy the 1990s but haven't listened to much HI-FI yet, it's on my todo list. :-)

[@Googahgee]

Fun fact: regarding 2:40, most of the "openings" in the 990 really only reach a round plastic shell with a hole in the middle, so it's barely as "open back" as people usually assume it is. The real power of open-back headphones come from the extra air supply for the speakers as well as the way the sound reverberates/escapes the enclosure, and *not* necessarily the fact that you can hear more through them. Even if you could hear your voice decently loud enough through the headphones I would still recommend doing the "one can off" method for recording, if doing vocal work.

[@5wappy]

Wow, I didn't know. I figured since I can hear outside noise so well it's do the open back nature of the headphones.

[@fzsty]

Great review, had my dt 990 pros for 2 years now, recently broke because of the wire, wanted to upgrade to 1990s but I think I’ll just buy another pair of 990s!

[@5wappy]

I would recommend to buy the 990s. I do love the 1990s, even more now that I've worn them for over a week, but its hard to argue that you can buy 3 990s and still have left over money for the price of the 1990s. The 1990s are better in almost everyway, but only by a small margin (to my novice ears).

[@fzsty]

@@5wappy yeh that is true, ive just ordered a new pair of 990s and gone ahead and bought a new amp along it it :) awesome review once again! keep up the great videos

[@5wappy]

@@fzsty Nice, which amp did you buy? I just got a Schiit Magni 3+ and I really like it.

[@fzsty]

@@5wappy went ahead and bought a Fiio K5 PRO, was looking at the schiit magni but they don't ship to the uk im pretty sure heard good things about the fiio hopefully lives up to its words

[@eyang7]

Bro, there's plenty of videos on how to replace the wires on KZbin.

[@eg8160]

Thanks man i’ve ordered the dt 990 pro and it still not delivered tho thanks on this review you comforted me because i was going to blame my self for not taking the dt 1990 pro when i saw it on the thumbnail

[@5wappy]

Hey, I'm glad I could help. You will love them!

[@bateraum]

The thing is, you really gotta give them some time for your ears to adjust. Once they are used to it, when u go back to the 990 the resolution and detail level of the 1990 is far superior. Not 3x superior as the price of course, but damn. Also the 1990 has a lot more enjoyable sound to my ears too, much more full and engaging, as the 990 seems kinda steryle tbh. Something else to consider, is that these characteristics of the sound, such as detail, texture, etc really does come to life depending on the production of the songs. Tool has a very "analog" feel to it, sounds very "dirty" and full (in a good way of course, its their artistic choice). But if you take a listen to more precise sounding songs, as an example the latest taylor swift album, that has an out of this world production, especially the songs cardigan and exile, the 1990 clearly shows its vast superior detail capabilities. I'm a metalhead and I'm listening to a lot of taylor swift recently just because of the production, its fucking amazing lol

[@5wappy]

These are really good points. You can't judge headphone (or most things) with only a few minutes of use. That's why I titled the video first impressions to try to lessen the focus on sound since I need multiple hours/days to really determine the difference. I'm a secret Swifty (well not anymore), so I will give her new album a listen to see if that helps isolated the differences between the two headphones.

[@bateraum]

@@5wappy taylor all the way everyday hahaha

[@kaukey]

LOL @ Taylor Swift.. I will have to try that too!

[@cutedoggo4419]

@@5wappy i hope you make a video update!

[@5wappy]

@@cutedoggo4419 What type of information are you looking for? I'm not an audiophile so my advice there won't help much. I really do like the headphones, but honestly I don't get everything out of them since I don't listen to much hi-fi music. I mainly wear them for gaming and they are great too, but for the price I would recommend the DT 990s for gaming.

[@liasfertis2309]

They're bigger! They're deeper! Yeah that's what she said! Great video mate, really informative!

[@5wappy]

bahahahaha! Thanks man.

[@tfmtech1725]

Was not expecting to see 50 subs you got 51 now 👍🏼 great quality video

[@5wappy]

Hey thank you so much! Did you expect more or less subs, hahahah?

[@tfmtech1725]

I thought you would have way more haha we should do a collab when we get bigger 👍🏼

[@playpaetscher]

Same, thought the same haha

[@Varosee]

Amazing review! I honestly thought you were a bigger channel, Got my sub and like !

[@5wappy]

Thank you so much!

[@iRsopp]

From your comment replies it looks like you’ve been using the 1990s quite a bit. Would be great to know how you would compare the two now you’ve had more time with them

[@5wappy]

Overall I like them better but hard to justify the 3x cost for my use (mainly games and listening to MP3s).

[@BobKarnowski]

If you can do basic soldering or have a good electronics repair shop in your area you can easily replace the cable.

[@5wappy]

Good to know, thanks!

[@TheBaconbush]

Watched the full video. Then realised the low subscriber count!! That is criminal. This video was great :-) You way deserve more subs

[@5wappy]

Thank you so much. I'm new to this so hopefully will continue to grow.

[@sniperlif3]

Look into Dekoni pads, you can adjust the sound changing the pads. I want a bit more bass and less highs from my 1990 pro, so I changed the pads to get what I want. I will say, both of these headphones are being held way back with the crap quality coming from the Goxlr. The goxlr is easy, not good.

[@5wappy]

Thanks for the recommendation on the Dekoni pads, I will check them out. I'm now using a Schiit Magni 3+ amp to power the headphones (coming out of the line out of the GoXLR). It does sound much better.

[@millenwagon]

Glad I watched this, it helped me decide to cancel my order on the new 900 x. They’re around £100 more than the dt 990 and they’re supposed to be in between the 1990 and 990, but as you couldn’t hear any drastic differences between these 2 headphones I can’t see the 900 pro x being greatly different from either of these. I’ll wait until there are more reviews on them before taking the plunge!

[@5wappy]

Glad I could help!

[@terraincognitagaming]

The pads in the 1990 case are 2 different sets. One is "balanced" the other "analytical" which gives a different sound.

[@5wappy]

Yup, I'm using the analytical now for gaming. They have less noise isolation which I like so I can hear myself better than the balanced ones.

[@dcime1]

Excellent review - the price difference is also a MAJOR factor, big difference!

[@5wappy]

yes, it's hard to ignore the price difference.

[@ShockingPikachu]

I personally think for $200AUD the DT990 are built exceptionally well. Honestly think they're an amazing deal considering some of the headphones I've seen that are worth more money sound just bad and are built worse (looking at you beats by dre).

[@5wappy]

Totally agree, they are the best value out there for excellent sounding headphones.

[@SuperPalese]

After listening and reading so many reviews on these two headsets I was undecided until now and your review. I love these 990 PRO for my gaming and music as well. Thanks

[@5wappy]

So glad I could help! I love the 990s as well and that is mostly recommend just on pure value for the performance.

[@ybsamurai2803]

Thanks man great video

[@5wappy]

Thank you so much!

[@WhenFearsFail]

Break in period is a very real thing. Give the 1990s a couple of weeks and check back in later for comfort, sound, etc.

[@5wappy]

They definitely sound better after a month of use, but they are still on the tight side for size.

[@demon-ll9eg]

@@5wappy so its been 3 month now can u update me because im in market now and buying 1 of them 990pro vs 1990 pro

[@5wappy]

@@demon-ll9eg It depends on what you primary use will be. If it mainly gaming and spotify listened then you can beat the value of the 990s. If you are going to be listening to HiFi music then the 1990s extra cost may be worth it (I'm not an expert). If you don't care about cost I like the 1990s more, with the build quality and sound are better. But if you aren't listening to hifi music it's hard to justify the 3x additional cost of the 1990s.

[@pascalleroy6744]

Merci , depuis la France , bonne présentation !

[@5wappy]

Merci !

[@LemonWatermelon]

Did adding the Schiit 3+ to Goxlr line out make a huge difference.. or is the Goxlr good enough to power 250 Ohms 🎧 thanks dude, enjoyed your video and the comments.

[@5wappy]

I would say it opened up the headphones a good amount. The GoXLR does a decent job but just doesn't have enough power hear everything. I feel I hear more detail down with the better amp.

[@gregory2421]

Great review, are your Beyerdynamic DT 990's 250 ohms or 80 ohms? P.S How are they for watching movies I'm looking for a good pair of Home Theater headphones?

[@5wappy]

Mine are 250 ohms. I haven't watched many movies with them but the wide soundstage would be a benefit.

[@Daryki]

is the sound coming out of the 990 PRO loud enough to screw my microphone recording? I'm afraid to be recording a video and instead of taking only my voice, the sound of the game will be captured as well

[@5wappy]

I have never had that issue, but I've also only used dynamic microphones.

[@officialWWM]

You need the 770 pros.

[@tuunaes]

Do you play without keyboard and mouse? If not noise from those is far bigger problem. (or you're trying to kill your hearing)

[@MDArcticX]

I have the DT990 Pro and a Fifine K678 Mic. I can tell you one thing, if you add a noise gate and suppression to the mic input on OBS you wouldn't have to worry about game audio being captured or even keyboard and mouse sounds (unless you mash super hard and your mic is directly beside your keyboard)

[@gabrielcarneiro2976]

ia daryki, vai dar comida para o Maurício ?

[@Bolling0]

Amazing review. Quality looks extremely professional and nice. I can't believe you only have 273 subs you deserve way more. Definitely subbing :)

[@5wappy]

Thank you so much for the kind words. I have another product review coming out in in the next week or so. Stay tuned.

[@liro213]

Nice review, been doing my research into mid- high end headphones and I'm curious to hear your follow up on the 1990s

[@5wappy]

Thanks! My general recommendation is if buying mainly for gaming, then get the DT990s. I love the DT1990s, they do sound a little better for gaming but are much better for music when powered with a good amp. But hard to justify the 3x cost if mainly used for gaming.

[@shelly6482]

Have the dt990 edition 600ohms and love them. Great honest review 👍

[@5wappy]

Thank you so much!

[@phattemu2070]

What amp are you using to power them?

[@shelly6482]

@@phattemu2070 Beyerdynamic A20

[@5wappy]

@@phattemu2070 At the time of the video it was a GoXLR. Now I use GoXLR line out to a Schiit Magni 3+ Amp. Adding the amp definitely improved the sound.

[@5wappy]

@@guyoninternet7015 I'm really enjoying the Schiit amp. Really makes a difference, even coming out of the GoXLR. I would love to try one of their amps, but with my GoXLR setup for my mic and mixing it's not easy to configure.

[@AlpacaV2]

Hey, wondering what mixer do you use to power you 250ohms DT 990 pro thank you!

[@e30Birdy]

From stuff I have seen the Dekoni Elite Velours are supposed to drop some of that Beyer Peak and make them a bit more flat by picking up the bass a bit.

[@5wappy]

oh nice, will have to check those out.

[@GP-qb9hi]

If all you do is gaming or watching youtube, you don't need a better headphone than a 990 Pro... but if you actually sit back and listen high fidelity music with a proper DAC/AMP, the DT1990 Pro is just a COMPLETELY different level.

[@5wappy]

Could you hear an immediate difference when listening to high fidelity, or is is a learned skill? I swear once I added my Schiit Magni 3+ amp the headphones sounded better, but I can't pinpoint why.

[@jaredferguson2999]

@@5wappy I would try a sine wave with your new and old amp and see what stands out. Sometimes it's an easier way to pick out distortion

[@5wappy]

@@jaredferguson2999 Thanks for the tip, I will look into that.

[@howglucosemoves]

@@5wappy after noticing the difference with the use of an amp, would you still recommend the 990 over the 1990?

[@5wappy]

@@howglucosemoves depends on what you plan to use them for. If for gaming, you can't beat the value of the 990s, if your an audiophile and you play high fidelity music then the 1990s. Gaming on the 1990s is a little better, but not worth the 3x higher price.

[@Micouniverse]

Thanks a lot for taking your time to make a nice review. 🍀🖖🏽

[@5wappy]

My pleasure! Thank you!

[@GraybeardGiffTech]

Good info and valid points! I'm also a stout guy with a big, bald head (7 5/8 hat size) and was wondering how they fit, feel on your head now that you've had them a while? Do the pads on either pair pinch the tops or bottoms of your ears? Thanks!

[@5wappy]

I wear between a 7 3/8 and 7 1/2 hat and they still put more pressure on my head than I would like. I wear them during a working day around 10 hours and it does bother my head from time to time (couple times a week). But I would say they are getting better the more I wear them. I also never had this problem with the 990s.

[@GraybeardGiffTech]

@@5wappy Thanks so much! Do the round pads clip your ears at all?

[@5wappy]

@@GraybeardGiffTech My ears complete fit inside, if that's what your asking. They are really comfortable except for the pressure on my temples.

[@jordanotter9702]

yeah but what are they plugged into...?? kind of important :-/

[@5wappy]

When I did this video they were plugged into a GoXLR. Now my GoXLR line out goes to a Schiit Magni 3+ which does make both headphone sound better.

[@xXxoFreeman]

Thanks man, very helpful. I have 990 and will stick with them.

[@5wappy]

Glad I could help

[@Scared_of_Public_Toilets]

Hiya! Looking from some new headphones for my gaming/streaming setup and having been looking at both of the headsets you are talking about in the video. I do have a question for you, you said you use the GOXLR with the 990's, do you use anything else or have you just plugged them straight into the GOXLR without and amp ect? Cheers! PS: great video!

[@5wappy]

Thank you! For about a year I've had the 990s running only through the goxlr mini. It has enough juice to power them and get fairly loud. I just purchased a Schiit Magni 3+ amp and have it going out from the goxlr line out and it makes the 1990s sound better. Haven't tried the amp with the 990s yet though.

[@Scared_of_Public_Toilets]

@@5wappy Cheers for the reply! Ok, i now have another question for you, have you tried the 1770 pro which has a closed back? And if so, how do they compare? Keep up the good work my friend! :D

[@5wappy]

I haven't tried the 1770 pros, but since I love my 990 and 1990s I will likely pick up a closed back variant later this year to try.

[@HansTheGeek]

You can buy a replacement for mostly all parts of the dt990 Pro. They are also easy to disassemble and fix. I fixed broken cables on dt770 pro and dt990 pro's a couple of times now.

[@5wappy]

That's great to know, thanks!

[@BluD]

if you already had the 990 pro's would you pick them up? im either looking to upgrade or get a new set of pads as mine are super gross and worn out. i was also thinking about the HD6xx or the 600s or 660s but ive heard mixed things about gaming

[@5wappy]

I absolutely love the 990s and would buy them again. I only bought the 1990s to see if they were that much better. Overall the 1990s are better but really depends on what you use them for. Gaming I would stick to the 990s, they are amazing.

[@realandrews_714]

Love this!

[@5wappy]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[@sinslap_]

Is there a difference between the 250 ohm and the 80hm is the 80 less quality but louder ?

[@5wappy]

I’ve don’t know for sure on quality difference, but have heard there is a little. The main thing with Ohm is what type of devices can power it. 250 ohms means your phone won’t be able to well.

[@interwebvacuum]

Great review thank you!

[@5wappy]

Thank you!

[@aledsionwright]

Did you end up keeping these? Any long term comparisons of the two?

[@5wappy]

I did keep them and love them. But only recommend them over the DT990's if you have money to spare and/or you use it for listening to hi-fi music. If just for gaming you can't go wrong with the DT990s.

[@kc-ug6gu]

i currently have dt 990 pro and i love it do u guys think i should upgrade to dt 1990 pro

[@5wappy]

It really depends on what you plan to use them for. If for mainly gaming I would stick with the 990s, you can't beat that value. If you also listen to hifi audio and/or you have the money (and a good amp) then the 1990s are a solid choice.

[@kwansheensiow5169]

Will ur mic pick up the dt990 pro noise leakage if using the goxlr? Despite noise gate, the lack of noise supression on the GOXLR means it picks up alot of the background as well.

[@5wappy]

I'm using a dynamic microphone (first Rode PodMic, now Shure SM7b) and haven't had any problem with picking up noise from my headphones. With the noise gate dialed in I rarely even hear my keyboard.

[@gray.dog6]

Question: I thought the GoXLR only went up to 150 ohms(may be different, but I remember them replying to a question on Twitter saying you can’t do 250 ohms). Do you have a amp also hooked up? If not, have you had any problems with it?

[@5wappy]

I can't remember where, but they did officially state it can power the 250 ohm at a specific volume. It worked fine for me but wasn't super loud. I have since moved to a Schiit Magni 3+ amp to power my headphones.

[@gray.dog6]

@@5wappy oh, kk thanks for letting me know

[@ericarcentals2548]

Hey man I got a question for you how you have your amp set up to you goxlr if you do not mind me asking

[@5wappy]

I use the line out from the GoXLR that goes into the input of my Schiit Magni 3+. That way I can still use the mixing of the GoXLR and hear it through my headphones.

[@JackAdams0]

Hey about the DT 990 Pro: I've heard from other reviewers that they are great for gaming because they have high treble. However they also said the treble is too much sometimes...like they're bright. you said that these are good though but did you notice anything like that?

[@SugaFree2387]

Depends on the person, but they’re brighter than average. I personally love them, but I can’t listen to them at high volume, because that’s when they start becoming sibilant.

[@5wappy]

Same, I love them. the tremble doesn't bother me at all for games or music.

[@MattL4J]

After reading some of the comments to see where you stand after some time...how much of a difference does the magni3+ make on the 990? Does the sound get equally better on the 990s as it does the 1990s? I’m looking to get a new pair of headphones over my hd6xx, and beyer seems to be a good buy. The 6xx is worse than my 598 for gaming by far, so I want to see where better highs takes me.

[@5wappy]

I just started wearing the 990s again to see how they sound with the Magni 3+. Will try to remember to update you after a few days.

[@oceanman7868]

Nice review, but one thing to add 1:00 you do get a bag with the dt990 , you said "no case or anything like that" i know what you mean and that anything like that is a saying but just wanted to add this.

[@5wappy]

It's been so long I forgot, thanks for the info.

[@elliotandersson8302]

Should I go for the dt990 pro or the sennheiser HD650? The real choice is the 990s with a decent amplifier or the HD650s with the cheapest amp available. What headphones are going to sound better the dt990s with a good amp or the hd650 with the cheapest 50 dollars amp? If it's better to go for the 650s what amplifier for 50 bucks do you recommend? And if you think the 990s are better what amplifier do you recommend in the 200 dollar range? Btw: my budget is around 400 dollars!

[@5wappy]

I'm a huge fan of the DT990 Pros but never tried the HD650 so can't really answer. But the 990s with a decent amp sound great.

[@elliotandersson8302]

@@5wappy thx for your opinion:) I have decided to go for the dt 770 pro 80 ohms cause it's closed back and I chose 80 ohms because a lot of people say that the highs sounds worse on the 250 ohm. But I'm struggling to find a good amp and dac! When I look things up the fiio E10x seem to be a good dac, but I cant find a good amp! And the amps I do find is not available in my country! What amp and maybe dac do you recommend? Is the fiio E10x a good choice for a dac? Btw I also have difficulties trying to find instructions on how to connect your dac and amp to your phone. Maybe you know how?

[@rastAsia]

I returned mine for the very reason. Not worth the extra mula even for my line of work for music mixing. Returned and got a 2nd 250ohm 990 instead.

[@5wappy]

I'm glad I kept mine after I learn and really listened to both closely with different genres of music I could clearly hear a difference. Now is it worth the 3x cost...depends on how much you like music. For me I'm happy with the purchase.

[@-Jorgito.]

NICE video!

[@5wappy]

Thank you!

[@uselessoldman7964]

The DT990 Pro are GREAT value for the buck, I absolutely love mine. Are the 1990 worth over 3 times as much? The 1990s cost ALMOST the same as my set of Adams T7Vs, so one has to take that into consideration and perspective. I have a relatively expensive Hi-Fi system do I find listening to a mix brings out extra over the Adams or for that matter the 990s? It depends on the music genre style. I make and listen to rock music, NOTHING and I mean NOTHING beats listening to Rock on a pair of Marshalls, none of them sound better. You cannot beat the real thing, something about those Vintage 30s those G12Ts and G12Hs. I now have a pair of 4x12s in the corners and a Bass speaker, who cares about clarity cos it matters NOT, except for acoustics and solo

[@5wappy]

For gaming, I can't justify the 3x cost - go with the DT 990s. For HI-FI, I'm not the right person to ask as I don't use them for that. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Sounds like you have a dup setup thou!

[@melantus]

So this video was 3 months ago. Any update on if the 1990 have won you over the 990?

[@5wappy]

I love the 1990s when powered by a good amp (using now Schiit Magni 3+) and wear them everyday for work and gaming. I primarily use them for gaming and some spotify music, so definitely not getting the most out of them. If you are planning to use them mainly for gaming my recommendation is the 990s due to the value and quite honestly they are amazing for the price.

[@melantus]

@@5wappy appreciate the reply. I actually purchased the 990 figuring it was the better value. Unfortunately, the high treble was hurting my ears and I had to return them back to Beardynamic. So I'm still using my 598 for gaming and music.

[@5wappy]

@@melantus ah that is a bummer the treble was too high. I actually like a little brightness as it's better to hear sounds in games vs. the pounding of bass.

[@freddynystroem3669]

Hey, is there any difference between using the smaller 3.5 connector for something like the go xlr or the bigger one soundwise? Like does the bigger one supply more power and therefore they are louder or is it the same, just a smaller form factor? Would help me a lot!

[@5wappy]

From what I've read the 1/4 may a bit more rugged and is usually what is used by higher end amps but other than that, no audio difference.

[@Tiger24kicks]

You need a amp for the DT 1990 pro for gaming I'm using the Sennheiser GSP 600

[@5wappy]

Agreed. I use a Schiit Magni 3+ for the past few weeks and really like it.

[@Tiger24kicks]

@@5wappy Enjoy them I will soon get them for movie watching they are amazing headphones.

[@WanderinWizard]

Try the sennheiser hd 800s or the hd 800xx i would be very interested in your opinion. Great vid thanks for the honesty from a gamers perspective.

[@5wappy]

Thank you. I will keep that in mind if I can get a hold of a pair to try.

[@zoomozcommercials6616]

The 1990‘s are for mixing&mastering ! If you are‘nt a mixengineer you can‘t understand and hear the difference and importance of these headphones. So , 1990‘s only for professional audio work.

[@5wappy]

I can see that, it definitely sounds better after connecting it to a proper amp

[@frannydog94]

Just picked up a pair of 990s, in terms of longevity my dt770s just broke at the wire. Good news is though I’ve had them since 2013 and they have been amazing up until now. Ran over the cable with my computer chair, RIP lol

[@5wappy]

You will love the 990s, you just can't beat the sound and sound stage at that price point. Ouch with the 770s, but they had a good run.

[@eyang7]

Again, lots of videos on wire replacement on KZbin

[@rippo4333]

That always happens to me with my chair it’s really stressful

[@bateraum]

As for gaming, they both are monsters

[@5wappy]

Completely agree.

[@tsanket2564]

Is ifi Zen DAC V2 capable enough to properly drive DT990 Pro (250 ohm)? I was told by a seller that it wont drive to the full potential

[@5wappy]

Sorry I don't know much about the Zen DAC v2 and won't be able to help answer.

[@giuseppefoto]

Hi from Spain. I have the 990 PRO and the AKG k712 pro. Do you know if I can put something to reduce the high frequency on my 990pro? Something like foam or similar covering the driver. Thanks a lot.

[@5wappy]

Wow Spain, so cool!!! The only thing I could think of is try different ear pads. With the 1990s I noticed a difference in highs and lows when I changed from the well-balanced to analytical. The analytical had less bass the highs stood out more.

[@vasiliychernov2123]

You can try EqualizerAPO. It's a systemwide audio processing tool, there you can adjust an EQ to reduce highs.

[@giuseppefoto]

@@vasiliychernov2123 thank you. I am trying Morphit plugin

[@charliedalencour5141]

Would love to see a full updated review once you've given them enough time

[@5wappy]

Thanks, not sure I will do one though. I don't think I have the right ears to really do a sound comparison (and give the 1990 a proper review) which is what most would want in a full review.

[@charliedalencour5141]

@@5wappy that’s fair enough

[@teemuvesala9575]

A lot of reviewers falsely claim 1770 and 1990 Pro are almost all metal. Literally have them myself, most of the black parts are high quality plastic. The decorative material on the cups, the black part of the cups and sliding mechanism they are all PLASTIC. Only thing that's metal is the actual headband itself just like in 990s and the metal grills under the plastic decoration in 1990s. I much prefer 990 Pro apart from not having detachable cable. Then again, I can buy 4 or 5 990 Pros for the price of 1 1990 Pro so there's that...

[@5wappy]

Good info, thanks for sharing.

[@СтаниславМосин-щ6ф]

Hello. Can you please recommend DAC for DT 990 pro? I wanna buy it with earphones just for music and games. Now i'm looking for smth for avg. 200$ (for DAC). Thanks in advance :)

[@5wappy]

I don't have a dedicated DAC, I use GoXLR for that, but do use a Schiit Magni 3+ AMP and would definitely recommend them if you are looking for DACs as well.

[@СтаниславМосин-щ6ф]

@@5wappy Thank you for your advice

[@Sanibaerchen]

I use the Topping E50 DAC (~260€) with the Topping L50 Amp (~230€). This stack works extremely well with my DT 1990 Pro. It's very clean, precise and has good dynamics. I added +5db below 75 Hz and +2db at 100 Hz with Equalizer APO to give it a bit more punch. Can't describe how much I love it.

[@TerrorFahrer]

what u can say about the dt1990 after a few months? are they worth the money or is dt990 better value for almost same sound?

[@5wappy]

I love the 1990s but for pure value the 990s are better. I only recommend 1990s if you have a high-end setup (dac/amp) and listen to hi-fi music.

[@TerrorFahrer]

@@5wappy ok thank you. can you maybe tell me whats better for gaming dt990 or tygr300r? and can you recommend a good headphone amp?

[@5wappy]

@@TerrorFahrer sorry, never tried the tygr300r before so can't compare.

[@nuke4duke167]

Great review

[@5wappy]

Thanks Nuke!

[@donsudan]

Hi ! what do you use for your background light ?

[@5wappy]

It is an RGB LED Flood light - here is the newer model - www.amazon.com/Changing-Bluetooth-Floodlights-Waterproof-Equivalent/dp/B07T1B5S58/

[@snehanjan5230]

Sir, can I use this headphone, with my gaming laptop, Lenovo legion 5, or on Xbox series X without any external amp?? Because it is 250ohm headphone.

[@5wappy]

I doubt it, most laptops don't have enough power. Not sure about the xbox.

[@anon343]

Thanks for this man, I think I might pick these up after my DT 990s break but until then I will just leave it. I am driving my 990s with a JDS Element II and honestly switching to lossless music and a decent amp/dac really brought another level out of these headphones.

[@5wappy]

Anytime! I've moved to a Schiit 3+ and they definitely sound better.

[@anon343]

@@5wappy nice one man, I would have gone Schiit but living in the UK JDS is so much easier and cheaper.

[@cianbrady1557]

Great review!

[@5wappy]

Thanks!

[@Stereo8000]

Hey, i Produce music with Beyerdynamik.. first on Dt 770 pro and now updated to 1990 pro.. and the 1990 are three times more detailed, and a Little Bit louder.. and very precise too ... i think it Stands for Music Production.. and things like that....one Little minus for the Comfort.. over longer times.. the 770 pro and 990 are More comfortable. But now a Big Fan for the Pro 1990 . 👍🏽

[@5wappy]

I love the 990s and 1990s but for different reasons. For gaming though, 990s all the way mainly due to value.

[@enterthevortex5883]

What about the bass? More or less detailed than the 770's? And what about sub bass? More defined and present or less?

[@Stereo8000]

@@enterthevortex5883 its overall More detailed.. it came with two different pairs of earpads.. the One Pair have More Bass the other is more flatten.. the prize speaks for it self… Test it and have a listen. I Love them in combination with Sonarworks Headphone Edition. 👌🏽

[@revelationsoundstudio]

Why didn't you play music in both headphones for at least 10 min's before making a judgement.

[@5wappy]

I actually did, just misspoke in the video and forgot to fix it 🤦‍♂️

[@ojmaliuanag]

me, browsing for reviews for 990 vs 1990 sees this, "hey i like this guy" then mentions sound testing with tool's sober... no wonder i like him

[@5wappy]

Tool is my favorite band, hands down. Seen them live a bunch of times.

[@select20]

You would probably need a different mix between them to really tell a difference. They are studio headphones which need a good eq imo.

[@5wappy]

Oh I'm sure. I know I'm not using them to their fullest capabilities. If so, I do really enjoy wearing them everyday, they sound amazing.

[@carlosdinero6692]

Is 600 ohmm sound better than 32 ohmm or not?

[@5wappy]

Not necessarily. More ohms doesn't mean better, just means it takes more juice to power them. But often if a company sells the same set at different ohms then the sound may be different between them.

[@ron2291]

Bro are you serious?? lol What are you using for a dac and amp? There is way more bass in the 1990s. They make the 990s sound like they are lacking

[@5wappy]

When I did the video it was only connected to GoXLR mini. I now have a Schiit Magni 3+ and I do hear more of a difference.

[@ron2291]

@@5wappy The schiit stuff isn't bad, right now I use a su-8 and a thx 789 from drop but there are better things out now for about the same $$ but yeah when you said that I was super confused lol. Not to tell you how to do review style stuff but if your doing headphones especially better ones like these I would highly suggest having a decent dac/amp. Also some headphones are terrible in the way they only sound good on some dac/amps like the hd800.

[@5wappy]

@@ron2291 Thank you for the info. I likely won't do a lot of high-end headphone reviews. I was really excited about the 1990s since I loved the 990s. I'm really happy with the 1990s so don't see buying another pair for quite a while.

[@TheTreZZa]

Nice review! Save me some $$!! Thanks a lot!

[@5wappy]

Glad I could help!

[@mariagutierrez3018]

Great review I have the DT990 250 OMS they sound amazing with The IFI Hip Doc amplifier use to play music on my iPhone 11 I would like to buy the DT770 the DT1990 are to expensive for my budget the High and the Mids are more important to me am not a bass head

[@5wappy]

Thank you! I like some base, but since I use for gaming don't want to a lot of bass and it fatigues my ears quickly.

[@TruthSeekerAi]

I had them all the 990 is the best for the price only bad is the cable but that can be hacked but the 1990 is just built stronger but sound the same

[@5wappy]

The 1990s do not sound the same.

[@MaybeTiberius]

Im kind in a dlilemma atm. i got my dt770 80ohm this weekend and i kinda like them, sound is nice but i need to return them since they are unusable for me while gaming. Because i cannot for gods sake talk properly when i cant hear my own voice. i get louder and quieter, i stutter and breaking up words even. its rediculous. So i have 3 options now, get 990s get 880s or save a little more and get 1990s. I think the 770 have a little too much bass and treable but i fear the 880s might have too little bass since i dont want completly flat stuff either.

[@5wappy]

For gaming I highly recommend the dt990s. Though do note if you get the 250ohm you will need an amp. You will love them and you won't have any of the speaking issues since you will hear yourself just fine. I had your exact problem when I used Audio-Technica ATH-M50X which were closed back as well.

[@MaybeTiberius]

@@5wappy I ll roll with the 880 edition 250 instead. see if i like them. But from what ive heard and read, they should in theory fit me better than the 990. I like it to be a little more flat instead of vshape. treables on 990 sound really harsh. Thats actually something i dont really get with people. i listen to alot of bass heavy music (not just) and people keep saying: 770 is awesome for that, but what ive experienced is the exact opposite. imagine you eat something super spicy. What would create a more well rounded dish? if you add something a little sweet to it to make it to balance out or if you add a bunch of wasabi to an allready spicy dish? And thats exactly how i felt when listening to bass music on the 770. I could not stand it at all without heavily EQing the bass down because it was simply to much. But on the other hand if you listen to something that has not alot of bass, those bass heavy 770 will balance that out really well.

[@msym.]

What microphone is that?

[@5wappy]

That is a Rode PodMic.

[@saltypancreas5866]

Can you connect, the headphones to an amp than to a roadcaster I’m speaking about the 600 ohm

[@5wappy]

I don't know much about the roadcaster, so can't be much help there.

[@hellureitaalla5224]

i think you should try different earpads on dt 990... makes them feel and sound better...

[@5wappy]

I love the 990s as is, but do you have a recommendation for earpads to try?

[@hellureitaalla5224]

@@5wappy not an exact pair but soft fabric inside and leather outside pads are nice.. i have noname cheap pads since i just tryed them for fun and then i just kept them on...

[@MrAknur]

please tell me at what size are you wearing them? (how many “dots of size” do you open) i have strange pressure below my ears

[@5wappy]

I open them up 4 clicks/dots on each side. I've also been safely/slowly stretching them out a little bit. They are feeling more comfortable now.

[@holongwong6479]

I guess you probably notice that the analytical pad is softer than the balance pad.

[@5wappy]

Yes! They feel more like the 990's pads.

[@MrJason9142002]

did you even use an amp and dac?

[@5wappy]

When I recorded this video, no. But I have been running a Schiit Magni 3+ amp now.

[@msd5808]

I can't judge headphones that fast. It usually takes me at least a day to get a good feel for their sound.

[@5wappy]

Completely agree, this is just my first impressions.

[@judmcc]

I have both, and I don't the difference in sound is worth the difference in price.

[@5wappy]

I tend to agree. I only heard a few differences for my use and doesn't warrant the 3x cost for the 1990s. I love both of them but depending on your usage the 990s are probably the best.

[@blackdaan]

friend of my has the dt770 what you can find in many studios world wide.. i own the 1990. and for 350 euros less... i must say the 1990 are good for the price.. but its insane what you get for 130euros buying the 770 lol

[@5wappy]

For sure! great value in the 770 and 990.

[@blackdaan]

@@5wappy super true. i was always was a sennheiser fan.. you get what you pay for in every price tag. but i always knew beyerdynamics was also that kinda brand. but a 130 euros sennheiser beats beats by dr dre flawess.. but dang dt770 beats that sennheiser .. it always was a special series.. so many studios have them its insane..

[@phobiedufromage2433]

​@@blackdaandt770 is pure dogshit what 😂 880 is like the only okay headphones beyer made. Others are 🚮

[@blackdaan]

@@phobiedufromage2433 uhmmm no..

[@explodingheavens]

1990 should be more capable in low end bass, 990pro distorted at hi volume lvl which was quite bad as I listen at hi volume a lot.

[@5wappy]

The 1990s have much better bass. I cover this in my 1-year follow up video coming out later today. I haven't noticed the distortion on the 990s but I also don't use it at super high volumes.

[@explodingheavens]

@@5wappy I plan on buying 1990 250ohm but only because I know of deconi elite velour pads that fill the "hole" and cut the "mountain" present in highs. Since 990 experience I'm at loss finding right basshead audiophile headphones, sound pressure level of most is too low, 94dB is not enough, but I got wome cheap ones with 112dB and they do not distort at hi volume. Well, its not like I can afford audeze lcd4 with 130dB spl, so beyerdynamic got my best dynamic driver alternative.

[@nickl.2565]

does anyone know how to make the cups swivel more harder, right now theyre moving too easily...

[@5wappy]

I don't know a way.

[@norulestv2010]

So I’ve looked at the frequency response for the worn in (old pads) on the 990s vs the 1990s, and it would appear that they have a flatter and more preferred response (dt 990).

[@5wappy]

That is interesting. Now that I've been wearing the 1990s for a few days I will have to go back and test again to see if there is any difference (even though the 1990s are fully broken in yet).

[@rez3594]

the DT1990 are much more neutral but with a bigger peak in the highs

[@5wappy]

Is neutral similar to balanced, I feel the 1990s are more balanced, with either ear pads.

[@rez3594]

@@5wappy Bass Response mids low highs are nearly perfekt but There is that fucking Peak around 9-10khz thats really Sharp :/