"First Internet Artist" - M.I.A: From Refugee to Rebel, Paper Planes, & Beefing With Oprah | Ep. 443

[@halitst1]

I met her a while ago in New York and she was very very sweet. I was her waitress and she came back to tip me extra. She had a light in her eyes that I will never forget. I’ve met a lot of celebrities and she was one of the kindest. God bless her!

[@Roulettegrl67]

Love this! Such a great story!

[@MrBlaxdiemenz]

😊🎉

[@MrBlaxdiemenz]

9🎉😮🎉🎉😢😅😅😢😢so 😢

[@JordaineArrieta]

Who was the worst? ☕️

[@SamanthaBaker8]

JLo

[@Cee_Cee8]

I'm from the UK, I absolutely love this lady,.her music and her authentic nature. she just oozes sincerity, kindness and passion. I'd support her no matter what industry she was on ot works she released. she's just amazing

[@Garrett_Bear_Stap]

Here music is honestly years before her time. Her old music sounds like bangers today. Love her.

[@Anfernee3355]

She has been my celebrity crush for so long. She has called stuff out for so long and had so much style doing it. So happy she is able to get a platform to talk in long form here!

[@Kick_Rocks]

Now this is the type of content that I love. Culture, and politics. Not just political commentary all day. Great show!

[@ptpxy]

An authentic woman, a fearless human, and a lady who was ahead of her time. Remember when 'Paper Planes' came out? It was refreshingly original and groundbreaking.

[@Mara_143]

I like how she says God isolates you to give you a plan.

[@Itsyaboy88]

Amen Mara

[@Mara_143]

@@Itsyaboy88 🙏🏽💞🌞

[@CamElRodriguezSnrJnrIII]

I'm currently in isolation mode right now in Sydney Australia. I just have to be patient and things will start panning out for me I know it

[@Mara_143]

@@CamElRodriguezSnrJnrIII ✅️✅️✅️

[@BlessXNinja]

How does that work

[@chanelegant]

She seems so based in reality. its also SO nice to see a woman with. her natural face. She's not overdone, over made or false. Just beautiful

[@calmsine7767]

Crazy she’s 3 years OLDER than him. Aura feels younger

[@chanelegant]

@@calmsine7767wow I would have never guessed that

[@amesruth33]

Oh man! She really try not to say much but her long pauses and body language was saying more than meets the eye. Sending so much love to such brave woman. Hopefully, we can hear her full story one day🩵

[@ailolan]

The fact that she's 5 years older than the host 🤯

[@Mahmoodbanafe]

That's crazy I had to look up she's 49!!!

[@Lilstarshine]

Whaaaat??? She's like a young girl/young woman and he's like an old man 😂 good looking man but still I would think he's soooo much older! Sorry 😂❤

[@thedude1982]

She's still got it 🔥

[@MrAshep123]

The power of Asian😊😅

[@MERCERENiTY]

👀😲

[@prettygirl-pq9ny]

Thank you for getting her voice out there at this time. Prayers go out to her.❤

[@sn0_]

i wish she could speak without the fear of something happening w her son

[@Mara_143]

🎯🎯🎯🔔🔔🔔

[@sn0_]

regardless there is way more to the jayz bronfman story that i hope we find out one day mia is a legend in my eyes was always a big inspiration

[@kevinshanrajathurai8920]

her son grandpa is richer than anybody you know

[@thedude1982]

Yea I got that too. Must b some very powerful ppl

[@wheatbread2002]

Jay z is the devil. So is her ex husband, and his father. He was so off brand for her.

[@dknj2164]

She’s not only wise and beautiful, but she’s also extremely well educated, wether it’s from living life or schooling…she’s very intelligent and has a kind thoughtful heart as well

[@opposingshore9322]

she is just a fantastic human being. i’m not sure exactly why she agreed to be on this show, but i’m very glad we got a chance to hear her in long form and to witness her vulnerability and internal struggle. there is a hard spiritual climb between being a victim of narcissism and power structures and taking your power back, not to beat them or to ‘win’ but to return to your spirit’s purpose and to LOVE. it is to also realize they never actually ‘win’ because of who they’ve allowed themselves to be. nothing false can end well. “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.”

[@stayy_lokeyy]

what an eye opening interview. i recall hearing the “paper planes” song as a kid but i had no idea who she was or anything about all of this. it’s so tragic and she is so beautiful and genuine. the hardest part about listening to this interview is the reality that history is once again repeating itself. thank u for such an incredible interview and i pray her and her son are protected and blessed & more people are open to listening to stories like this and perhaps we could have a chance to shift before it’s too late.

[@vaniam2528]

she is everything one should aspire to be: global wisdom, love and respect... may she know how protected she has always been.

[@monicaalira1]

Might not agree w everything she says but always love someone who fights for what they believe in and isn’t afraid to lose the fame or support of others because of it. Can’t wait to see what the future holds for her.

[@kevinshanrajathurai8920]

she knows so much stuff that we outsiders will never know. in this podcast we had glimpses of what we need to know. She cant risk her life for a podcast… this is one of the keys video to hollywood

[@kaynesworld4900]

Yeah some of the answers about the music industry was terrifying even though she didn’t actually say it Jay Z an evil man

[@APR944]

I remember falling in love with M.I.A. and her music first seeing her video for “Bucky Done Gun” from her debut album 💿 Arular in 2005. She is such a brilliant artist.✨✨

[@imheem9045]

If you love M.I.A please check out her album MATA. It’s her latest & it’s a solid listen on a nice summer day.

[@protectiondogsecured7504]

She is crying because she know we who understand how powerful she WAS and Still is can see she has been comprised....it's so obvious keep it real the Brofmans were gangsters and still are and she is a hostage.....didnt quite know what she signed up for ........Get back to fighting M.I.A and get off the depression medication

[@buddhajohnsonpanda7890]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@kimmi8389]

1 plus 1 is still 2. As soon as I saw they owned Seagrams in the 1920s I knew. Generational gangsters

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

What evidence are basing she’s on depressing medication ? Or is that just conjecture on your part ?

[@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm]

MIA is one of the best performers I've ever witnessed. I'm 47 years old and I've been to hundreds of concerts. I saw MIA in Austin Texas and was able to get up on stage and dance with her and the crew. I'll never forget that day!. I'm So grateful she found Christ! God is good! 🙏🏻

[@aaronrus]

Stop with the bs.

[@mikestar7326]

jesus you need to go see real artists

[@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm]

@@mikestar7326 My first concert was Jethro Tull. I have seen Rush, Metallica, Alice in chains and Beastie boys several times. I went to Lollapalooza and 92, 93, 94 and 95 though also seen hundreds of electronic shows. You have no idea who I am or what you're talking about. Maybe you should think before he make a statement you know nothing about. I follow talent over topic. I don't know of anyone that has seen the diverse talent I have witnessed in my lifetime. God bless you. 🙏🏻

[@anacc3257]

@@mikestar7326 Name some better artists then? Her music is epic and she's good at putting on a show. I don't even agree with her opinions

[@sameersheriff7078]

@@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm Diverse talents hmm..then you must be rather following k-pop soy boy stuff instead !!! 😂

[@motivationalwisdom891]

MIA is one of the most Important figures of our time. PBD always brings on someone we wana hear from. Thanks PBD 🥇

[@Nome_utente_generico]

😂😂😂😂

[@JacobTimothyM]

As a Tamilian I can say she's right about 90% about what she's talking about the language Tamil and its relation to the middle east. Not sure about the stuff she talks about Jesus on the cross

[@marmary5555]

@@JacobTimothyM lol I guess education has failed you. There is a lot of discrepancies in this tale. No. You are not related to that very vague and geopolitical neologism non-existent place that is called 'middle east'. First thing you need to know is that 'middle east' corresponds to the levant and the Arabian peninsula. The cities of Uruk and Suse ARE NOT even located there. The languages of the Elamites and Sumerians are not even Semitic. So MIA and you, and Tamil "nationalists" should change your narratives and concentrate on your South Asian rich heritage instead of attaching yourselves to places and people you know nothing about. Because you start sounding like the African Americans descendants of west African slaves claiming to be related to ancient Egyptians. It's pathetic.

[@Rudy-j1m]

Thank for for having her on!

[@TheLoneWolfShow]

Her answer about her kids father was ......he must have made her life extremely difficult because she didn't wanna answer the truth on how she feels.

[@vamptowngirl6922]

😢

[@rahuldahoob]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@samattwood6748]

PBD please do more live podcasts brother. We enjoy these specials, but we LOVE the home team pods. Anyway let’s see how this one is 🙂

[@garthmanuel5701]

huh?

[@mikestar7326]

eww why the audio quality is horrible the chemistry is bad live this way better

[@kilnmaster]

Yeah. I don't watch these to the end. More pop culture, which I hate.

[@wisetv9132]

He’s doing a agreat job because pbd giving us a lil bit everything politics, music , sports ect… if it was just one niche it would be boring

[@wisetv9132]

@@kilnmasterwe getting a lil bit of everything bro

[@mariaholbrook1906]

Gods love her she's a mother that loves her son and is protecting him at any cost that says a lot about her 💞

[@TzBurton]

I didn’t know who she was at the beginning but yeah, I am on board with her.

[@SamanthaBaker8]

She’s A Real One

[@wheatbread2002]

Paper Planes. Classic song

[@X13T91]

its wild lady gaga was at her concert on the same label even before gaga got famous. mia was miles ahead

[@Honeycomblife]

Gaga copied M.i.a ,, gwen Stefani, ,Bjork , Christina Aguilera, Michael Jackson & madonna

[@STOPLISTENANDTHINK]

​@@Honeycomblife and her friend who mysteriously died. Lady gaga copied her

[@artemuliashkevych7892]

@@Honeycomblife Róisín Murphy too

[@ToNY-zl4qp]

Yooooo Miaaa.. much respect to you From Tbilisi.. thank you for highlighting. Next time you come, we make sure you enjoy it more❤

[@elainelinares3047]

She did a whole word salad she obviously has been threatened 😗

[@ALGreeneHTown]

AHHHH.. LIME WIRE... WHAT A TIME.. LOL

[@sameersheriff7078]

Patricks aiming for asian audience to boost his views bruh..!!!

[@rickyfernandes1]

before that i was using kazaaa , it was really big that time , napster was before that but internet speeds were not that good , but during kazaa filesharing became really big

[@Thumper68]

Limewire was good. Kazza was the best though.

[@randomhobbies5796]

Damn we old 😅

[@cdv190]

Was it a music video? or a Cartel b-heading video? "double click to find out"

[@mikewyckoff1123]

BIG FACTS around 1:28:00 min mark! That's the real conversation.

[@fz7694]

Wtf?! Are you high?! Without exaggeration, dumbest guest so far! Jesus spoke Tamil, she doesn't know what capitalism is, fashion will change the world, her son has swagger bla bla. Who even cares what this internet celebrity has to say? Thanks for wasting my time! I was about to skip this whole thing but I clicked on your timestamp thinking you might be an average smart internet user. Use the time stamp responsibly next time!

[@Copa20777]

MIA is the definition of growth... that a real bad girl bro❤

[@seanohalloran384]

She's the real deal and the music industry couldn't handle it. I hope she never changes. Great video!

[@julieruin8453]

Thank you PBD! I really appreciate you taking time to sit down with MIA ❤ She is amazing.

[@pool2785]

Long way for her to say "the industry is sick"

[@sameersheriff7078]

Just cuz she couldnt make it doesnt mean industry is bad or what ever !!!!

[@BOZ_11]

@@sameersheriff7078 she couldn't make it? She made it. Billions of views on social media. That residual income means she's rich

[@sameersheriff7078]

@@BOZ_11 ​ What about her songs though hardly heard any of it and has just handful of views and now shes more into podcasts taking crap about expanding consciousness and shit promoting drug use 😂 !!! Maybe a track in nfs hot pursuit which was "born free " I guess other than that not much !!! Her song called time traveller was trending on social media some months ago that's how I came to remember her other than that there are loads of better artists than her and this whole interview is to pander to asian audience to boast views !!!

[@BOZ_11]

@@sameersheriff7078 " has just handful of views" Handful. Stop writing, just go to her social media accounts. Tens of millions PER video

[@antoniorios3910]

Initially, The US kept her banned from the US Market... They wanted to call her a terrorist. Kind of like when the US Banned the (Aboriginal American)Red Bone song, " we were all wounded at wounded knee"... Shitty US Government... US Governmental Terrorist calling People Terrorists...

[@paulmoore3280]

This podcast should have way more views... Insane 🤯

[@Adam-rc9mf]

The secret service lady bout to get grilled.

[@mariaalexander427]

🎯 Now that's the real headline.👍🏽 We MUST stay focused on what matters!

[@franko8572]

Oh, you didn’t hear? Apparently she’s not even secret service. They shorted his secret service detail so much that homeland security was actually there making up the vacancies. That’s why nobody had any idea what to do and it looked so unprofessional.

[@ryancrozier7674]

You mean the lady who couldn’t chase down a doughnut if it was on a turtles back? 😂 so sad that there is aaaaany excuse for such a physically inept person to be the position she’s in.

[@Johnny-ge7zs]

really

[@JohnJames_23]

@@mariaalexander427ha focus on that distraction

[@1future797]

I totally understand her line about no sleep = better because there’s no words wasted

[@RobertRicetti]

PBD dope interview. I think hands by far you are the best podcaster. Everything that you do and put out is amazing and just wanna give you ur flowers cuz you deserve it .. MUCH RESPECT

[@KingdomofTara]

I saw MIA at le nef in France 2008, Amazing artist, sending blessings ❤

[@auntipenelope]

Ooo I have been waiting on this one! Hi MIA from my daughter and my sons and myself! It’s been awhile and they miss you and your talent girl. ❤ your story… remarkable. 100% w/you. Take care and God bless you 💐🙏🏼 Us little people care much, much, for you darling.

[@jackanderson9609]

I’ve really enjoyed your podcasts PBD. I’ve been a listener for the past year or so and truly think the future looks bright. Are there any hopes that the home team podcasts will increase the closer we get to election? I much rather come here to get my news than any other outlet.

[@Cee_Cee8]

I dl feel for her, Her Babby daddy is from an elite family she knows how much they can destroy her and her sons life if she says the wrong thing so I understand why she deflected on the subject. moral of the story is becareful who you sleep with as some families have the power to silence even the strongest warriors amoung us

[@Biggums_Tyrone]

Then why bring it up at all? What’s the point either tell it or don’t

[@Cee_Cee8]

@@Biggums_Tyrone so true

[@fz7694]

What are you talking about? For those of us who skipped this low IQ conversation.

[@induhgo_]

@@Biggums_Tyronemuch easier said than done when trying to be vulnerable and give insight to us people on to what’s going on.

[@annettethomas3740]

I had no idea who T.I.A was before this podcast. I was totally mesmerized listening to her. I couldn't turn my ears off. Thank you PBD! You and your team are amazing!❤

[@SamanthaBaker8]

MIA or Maya

[@jordanmoreno7001]

I can’t believe she is 49 years old

[@jordanmoreno7001]

She’s literally 4 years older than PBD

[@princeroyal195]

Ikr! She looks half her age

[@sameersheriff7078]

Some deageing cosmetic surgeries might've done the trick !!!

[@texasstrong9605]

Not her, she's all natural​@@sameersheriff7078

[@zitabozic]

Or it's called a good indian skin​@@sameersheriff7078

[@MR.F30]

Been listening to her music since 2005! I knew her style of music would connect with me.

[@Easyenglish003]

Hello PBD i'm from Georgia and i love ur podcast 💥 Thank u MIA Georgia loves u.

[@GK-dafunk]

no one in the corner has swagger like us lolol

[@NovellaNovice]

M.I.A. Has been my musical role model since 2009. God bless her.

[@alekriscast]

Holy cow she’s 49 years old…. She looks so good!

[@johndymond6588]

Never heard of this person, and don't care about her music nor the industry. But it meant a lot to PBD and from other comments, it meant a lot to many of you. In any case, I hope her future is bright!

[@sxynomi]

M. I. A. is her name. Maya is a whole other person. She tried to gently correct you but you weren't listening. Unfortunately it's clear you are not familiar with her.

[@kevenpeoples]

Isn't her full name Mathangi "Maya" Arulpragasam?

[@Mombal5]

M.I.A is her stage name not her real name. Her name is Maya.

[@Imustbefromanotherplanet]

I really truly appreciate and enjoyed this show!!! Thanks PBD for having MIA as a phenomenal guest!

[@jason13stomberg]

Great to take a break from politics! Great interview!

[@Vonte-on1br]

PBD protected her. A lot of respect to you.

[@JordaineArrieta]

She can’t say everything plainly. She has to be smart especially with power. She dropped a lot of hints for ppl to do their research and wake something up inside. She didn’t fed into the industry past drama that would be all over the Internet and then the establishment would use it against her (again) to stop her future endeavors. Always a fan of Mia. Her fans are the true intuitives

[@arkoobi]

I'm so grateful to her, as her music and existence empowered my teenage self to become an unapologetic defendant of refugees. She's the real deal, a Rebel Saraswati. She deserves all the love in the world. Love to Sri Lanka! என் இதயம் தமிழ்

[@objectivelyrealrealityobje7084]

M.I.A. big fan here, love your music

[@FriscaRios]

I simply adore M.I.A. especially the remix she did with T.I., Lil. Wayne, Kanye with the lil role she played her voice made it! She looks the same - as if she doesn't age - simply beautiful...

[@Op_01]

When you can’t tell straight there’s something being covered up

[@tmbam7821]

I adore M.I.A. May God continue to draw her near to His heart.

[@Takoda9721]

Great work PBD keeping it respectful, future looks Bright

[@ChasRStar]

They can never make me hate you MIA. she’s so real for this world and considering what’s going on with the music industry and business side of it I believe what she’s expressing 💕✨✨💕💕

[@mangoqueen1681]

Haha, PBD singing eechak dana beechak dana is so awesome 🥰 That song is a part of my childhood.

[@thefitchfamily988]

I loved listening to her and her history! Please have more in depth conversations like this

[@randelswift6421]

She has heard and knows a lot of things about the industry and society in general. Never compromised and dignity still in check but she def knows a lot of things🤔

[@IndigoWisdom1]

I'm a Day 1 fan of MIA back in her Bucky Done Gun and Galang Galang days. Back when I was a liberal (benevolent liberal not like these crazy/malevolent ones running around today). She's the post-2000 RATM. After she came out I noticed artists like Beyonce, Nelly Furtado etc copying a LOT of her style & mode of expression. She's right she didn't truly need a deal. They definitely galvanized her organic popularity. If she just hung in there into the smart-phone age she would have still went big. Maybe even bigger. . She is a creative genius in her own rite but humble and down to earth. Her fans are True fans. Praying for spiritual protection for her as she continues forward in her own journey. 🙌🏾🩵🩵🩵

[@CyberRican]

Loved this, we need a round two

[@hiskiff24]

MIA is incredible.

[@staciemarino7891]

God Bless MIA , love her, have since the first song I heard of hers forever ago. Paper Planes is one of my all time favorites

[@dominofxgroup]

M.I.A. I fly like paper 🎶 that was my jam

[@anacc3257]

Borders is also great

[@amosdamon]

Always Liked MIA's music. Didn't know much about the back story. The interview is really hard to follow without knowing about the history of what they are speaking about, I'd suggest going and looking it all up before watching.

[@Dynasty19]

She’s one of the most unique artists of the last 20 years

[@UrbanKizBeast]

She's got so much charisma. Feminine magic. Thank you ma'am.

[@christianjacques1635]

I kind of wish that you guys did a longer podcast. It was a little tough at times because she’s a kind of beat around the bush kind of girl what It was a delightful conversation. She is definitely one of my favorite artists and I loved getting a glimpse into her brain.

[@GgWhyfye]

wu tang Pharrell and Kanye made me weird . but when m.i.a dropped PaperPLanes.... it gave me full and absolute confidence too live my life as an ODDBALL/outlier/risktaker/tastemaker . thank you girl I shot the music video for the first remix to paper planes on youtube

[@ambig1]

8:12 song Ichak Dana Bichak Dana, thanks for this series man; so much to learn here from real life experiences of real people

[@eagleeye2930]

Man, at the end of the interview it got rough with how disengaged PBD was. It's disrespectful to be looking at your phone, not giving verbal or physical cues to the person you're having a conversation with that you're listening. Clearly he wasn't. It's fine to switch subjects, but you need to have finesse about it, the lack of interest he showed in what she was saying towards the end was so embarrassing.

[@erikaterrasas9111]

Because she didn't deliver. What did she think this was going to be about??

[@buddhajohnsonpanda7890]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@ingridbergman-vz7go]

He's looking up information on the phone. Either that or his laptop. That's what interviewers do nowadays. It's normal procedure. He's not checking his social accounts.

[@Biggums_Tyrone]

I would be disinterested too she was talking a lot but not saying anything this entiiiire podcast my criticism is him not ever not stopping her & asking wtf she was going on about

[@x-heat2666]

She talked like politician, she's definitely being controlled or fearful

[@tammyhagger1460]

Admire the diversity of these podcasts and a little break from the events happening in America

[@MaxPayne.]

One of the best concerts I’ve ever been to … MIA

[@yourboymaleko]

M.I.A is a pioneer and legend. Thanks PBD!

[@glitchtv4279]

Don’t let soldier boy find out she’s saying she’s the first😂😂

[@sarahalderman3126]

I mean the truth does hurt the best of us at times😉

[@widerthanpictures]

Who?

[@taydiggs5740]

Facts! 😅

[@adambuckle333]

@@widerthanpicturessoldier boy!! Know your pop culture!

[@Ethan2Tone]

​@@sarahalderman3126 The truth is Soulja was the first internet star. He came out in the early 2000s releasing songs on illegal music sites. and mia came out in the 2010s

[@Hispanicwoman]

I love you even more now that you had M.I.A on, PBD! 💪🏼

[@tommyboi0]

PBD gets us. Swag

[@kyle6781]

Just returning from listening to paper planes real quick, man, bring back memories and its still such a banger

[@SELKCOMM]

Amazing guest. Thank you

[@NatashaVincent]

PBD, these jump cuts during the intro are 🍌. Ironically, MIA helped teached my kids how to spell 🍌 with one of her songs 😂

[@albertbelilos3276]

He kept a global artist in a concrete cell

[@FriscaRios]

Extremely informative about her as a person. I am actually admiring, and about the music industry.

[@sigmawolfclips]

PBD was like a lawyer with those direct questions about the industry, she was dodging those direct questions like neo from the matrix....should have just said I plead the fif....

[@rodney_allen]

I am her. She is me. Thanks PBD. Keep ‘em comming.

[@SanthoshGeorge-pg4ms]

Tamil is a classical language. Old as Latin . But she is linking Aramaic to Tamil..

[@_wokeweaklingscryoverwords_]

Tamil is older than Latin. Aramaic is native to Ancient Mesopotamia.

[@Johnpranu]

after 1000 years from now on people gonna say the same for someone's speech in the future ,, she is linking korean to tamil LOL

[@Mskoiyasrandomconvos]

Paper Planes is still my jam!!!!! I wish her the best ❤❤❤ Good always overcomes evil ! stay strong luv ❤❤❤❤❤

[@crispybacon5378]

Love this woman

[@ianharrell7775]

PBD…FACTS. Sometimes in life you been through so much it’s hard to explain.

[@libertypickers2780]

I’m 39 minutes remember everything she was talking about when she came on the scene. I’m not sure if she has a podcast but she should. We need leaders.

[@Sabrina-g1h6d]

PBDs watched Bollywood film. Nice one 😊 he’s a well rounded person

[@Judy-mw7mo]

Please have her on again for Part II...starting point from, "Now we can have the real conversation.."