FIRST LOOK at the ASKAR V - CRAZY Modular APO Telescope for ASTROPHOTO and Visual!!

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Cuiv, The Lazy Geek

Cuiv, The Lazy Geek

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@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
So what are your thoughts on the concept? Details on the new ASKAR V! www.sharpstar-optics.com/Products_1/75.html Preorder here: bit.ly/3GLuyR8 or bit.ly/3Imoq2M Support me on Patreon!: www.patreon.com/cuivlazygeek My EQUIPMENT ZWO AM5 Mount: bit.ly/3BAS8x5 or bit.ly/3JeVUkn iOptron CEM70:bit.ly/431Ii2U (successor of my mount) MiniGuideScope: bit.ly/3MyUJhn Celestron C6: bit.ly/3ocePVs Hyperstar C6: starizona.com/products/hyperstar-6 Mini Computer (newer version): amzn.to/3LQTgTJ and amzn.to/3K6x2vy Cable management: www.etsy.com/shop/SmartComponents Camera: aliexpress.com/item/4001359313736.html IDAS GNB filter: idas.uno/space/en/IDAS/gnb.htm Flocking paper/Felt paper: amzn.to/3zASgvu or amzn.to/3m94zwa
@photogazer
@photogazer Жыл бұрын
I love the concept. It gives far more options for framing and exposure. I plan on buying one for both my astrophotography and my astronomy outreach program. It also looks like it might be a good match for the ZWO AM3, whenever ZWO decides to release that new mount.
@JonnyBravo0311
@JonnyBravo0311 Жыл бұрын
That's a great concept and implementation. Gets you quite a few wide field focal lengths. Even at it's longest f/7.5 isn't too bad. No, it's not terribly fast, and sure, there are options with more aperture, but I definitely think it's a good compromise. I might have to sell my GT81 and pick this up!
@derektion2
@derektion2 Жыл бұрын
Looks very promising and very cool to have so many options in one telescope. I wonder though, can the dew shield come off the 80mm lense and be installed on the 60 ?
@JonnyBravo0311
@JonnyBravo0311 Жыл бұрын
@@derektion2 it doesn't need to. The lens in the 60mm objective is recessed... effectively creating a dew shield that way.
@mycarolinaskies
@mycarolinaskies Жыл бұрын
I believe the concept is sound especially when the added extender, flattener, reducers are all useful(definitely you'll need to do a battery of tests on the same target with each at each aperture). The overlap is minimal and while you could use the 60mm with the extender and see it as duplicating the 80mm that's really the only 'odd-man-out' scenario really. As long as each of these performs at the same high quality when swapped it's a win x 6. Here you're looking at an F/6 vs F/6.5 native so each of the 3 accessories should have enough tolerance to do well. Since you won't be shooting at full-frame we won't know if there are any issues outside of the APS-C frame. As I wouldn't expect constant swapping of aperture sets, the screw in concept is solid. Recall the old Pentax lenses were all screw on and they had far more often lens swapping than I'd expec the Askar would be 'asked' to undergo! Haha!. Perhaps the only thing I'd like to see engineered better is the Vixen dovetail holding system, making it attach from the top which would allow easy no-removal adjustment of the position on the dovetail.
@gloomiehoodie
@gloomiehoodie 21 күн бұрын
Great idea, I always wondered about a modular scope. I wish it was an 80/120 or at least 80/110. Aperture is king.
@Deliverator80
@Deliverator80 Жыл бұрын
The concept is extremely appealing, for a whole slew of obvious reasons. I'm very curious to see how well it performs and especially what it's like to live with for a while. Hopefully we get more reviews of it's use over the next few months.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
It also will depend on how long Askar lets me keep it hehe
@stuartwilson5772
@stuartwilson5772 Жыл бұрын
If the quality of the optics across the focal range holds up this could be the bargain of the century for we astro geeks. I could sell my Redcat and my RVO Horizon 72ED and have all their capabilities and more in just one smart case. Another advantage would be only requiring one EAF permanently attached to the focuser. No more tearing down/rebuilding or dual purchase of EAF, Power box etc. 'Hello Santa is that you?
@Sidecontrol1234
@Sidecontrol1234 Жыл бұрын
Yes it's looking like a winner!
@jeremyhorst
@jeremyhorst Жыл бұрын
and slap on a new asi2600mc duo on a am3 and your set for life!
@simonpepper5053
@simonpepper5053 Жыл бұрын
Haha I was thinking the same the Redcat I said I would never sell could be going up for sale after all! Can’t wait for the follow up video showing the results!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Gotta say I'm not so sure about the Duo, especially with dual band filters!
@stuartwilson5772
@stuartwilson5772 Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Yes I saw ZWO quoting performance with 7nm bandpass which is pretty wide these days hmmmmmmm
@AstroLaVista
@AstroLaVista Жыл бұрын
Great overview Cuiv! I first heard about this new concept scope by Askar Monday, so it's cool to see an overview already! Askar are fast becoming my favourite brand of imaging refractors; they think of everything and their fit and finish should make companies like Takahashi sweat.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Hey Astro! Yes Askar has nice scopes - and now their scope are even rebranded by ZWO!
@richardkelsch3840
@richardkelsch3840 Жыл бұрын
What a great concept! Thanks for bringing it to our attention and doing a great job of giving us the overview. This scope looks like just what I was looking for in a small, high quality refractor. Can't wait to see the results of your images with this 'scope!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@FAstroHD
@FAstroHD Жыл бұрын
I think it's great having options, will I ever use all of them, maybe not but it is certainly nice knowing you can if you want. You provided fantastic info mate, thanks heaps. I am really looking forward to more videos with this scope.
@lukomatico
@lukomatico Жыл бұрын
Really interesting to see this scope Cuiv!! Looks like you've got a lot of work ahead testing out effectively 6 scopes now though, oh man!! Wishing you the clearest of skies!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Thanks Luke! Fingers crossed I can get this done :D
@Tony-Elliott
@Tony-Elliott Жыл бұрын
So many options , looking forward to seeing what the images look like , let's hope you get a nice long run of clear skies
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I hope so too!
@user-yd1zl1tv8x
@user-yd1zl1tv8x Жыл бұрын
As a professional photographer I love this scope. Having multiple focal lengths are a great advantage to seeing and photographing different size nebulas. Can't wait for additional videos. Great job Cuiv!
@whites08
@whites08 Ай бұрын
Great review… scopes and mount I’m currently using are all second hand.. I’ve watched a few reviews of the Askar V but I keep coming back to yours…I’m sold and ordered mine yesterday….first light coming soon 👍👍
@perrydouglas7944
@perrydouglas7944 Жыл бұрын
Great review Cuiv. Look forward to your upcoming hands on test. Could be a little gem.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@perry3928
@perry3928 Жыл бұрын
Sounds promising. Looking forward for updates. Thanks Cuiv.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Updates soon to come :)
@fenice319
@fenice319 Жыл бұрын
neat, I was trying to find more infos about it so this video is perfectly timed
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@briankotak403
@briankotak403 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Now that is innovative and tempting! Hope the optics deliver. What a great idea. The scope looks really classy too! Dr B from Manitoba, Canada 🇨🇦
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@simonpepper5053
@simonpepper5053 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see how it performs I was hoping for the “magic of KZbin” and to be transported to PI with some results. Guess we will just have to wait! Keep the videos coming Cuiv!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Sorry about that :) it was already a long video!
@Chorge1972
@Chorge1972 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting concept! Next week I‘ll go for the ASKAR 103 with all 3 Flatteners/Reducers… So I will get at least 3 scopes. Not exactly as flexible as the V but I will keep my RedCat51 for 250mm…
@sgyeolily
@sgyeolily Жыл бұрын
I’m intrigued! This looks like a great travel scope. I could check in the tube and put the 2 objectives in my cabin luggage.
@radioparisment628
@radioparisment628 Жыл бұрын
Hi Cuiv. Thanks for this video. I'm waiting for spot diagrams and first imaging results of course.
@adityasoni6185
@adityasoni6185 Жыл бұрын
looks so luxurious. Excited to see the optical performance.
@ldipenti
@ldipenti Жыл бұрын
Looks super premium! The FL overlap between some of the options makes me think that the use case is for people that want to take it for trips as you said, I'm not seeing other use case for it. I own an Askar FRA400 and the build quality is really nice, so glad we have these not too expensive options! Thanks for the review!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Exactly - the 60mm lens with flattener or extender makes sense when traveling!
@davidschaeffer5322
@davidschaeffer5322 Жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful scope!! I love all the options and at that price WOW!!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
It really is!
@TheMje1963
@TheMje1963 Жыл бұрын
That's a sweet looking scope, I love the Askar scopes. I have the FRA 400 & 600... I avoid ZWO EAF, I use the Primaluce focuser and it goes on the fine tune side. It's about time someone puts a gauge for rotation. Not even my High end ota's done have that. You mentioned that the adapters are 48mm thread. I would prefer 54mm for use with full frame cameras
@YYZSQL
@YYZSQL Жыл бұрын
I'm super excited about this scope! I'm ready to graduate from my budget 80mm ED doublet and this seems to give options similar to a super zoom for my D500 DSLR 🙂
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Let me check the optical quality first :D
@Si-fp2ij
@Si-fp2ij Жыл бұрын
Love the concept, Just bought the Askar 65 so interested to see some images from the different focal lengths Great video Cuiv 👍🏻
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Will come soon!
@Si-fp2ij
@Si-fp2ij Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Look forward to that 👍🏻
@alexevans7916
@alexevans7916 Жыл бұрын
I love it..I was not sure about Askar but I took the plunge and according to advice from the Post Office my my new Askar 130 should be in my hands by lunch time...I already want one that you review in this video....just so many decent features...and I love the fact it has baffles of course.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Wow that's going to be a massive scope! Enjoy!
@wzuhl
@wzuhl Жыл бұрын
This looks like a really fun scope! I'm looking forward to seeing your results with it.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@spz5687
@spz5687 Жыл бұрын
Need one! Looking forward to your further updates on the scope.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Coming soon :-)
@dumpydalekobservatory
@dumpydalekobservatory Жыл бұрын
I think we can call this the Swiss army knife of telescopes!! It looks a nice piece of kit & look forward to seeing the first 6 first lights!! Clear skies & good luck.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
But will each of the swiss knife tools work well?
@RazorChrist
@RazorChrist Жыл бұрын
Man, I am geeking out super hard on this refractor! I love modular designs in tech and this is just a really cool idea. I do hope the final version has different colors. I'm not a big fan of white tubes, but I love the silver accent color. It would be nice if they included a built-in Bahtinov mask as well, but that's not a super big deal.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
The WO Redcat included Bahtinov mask is a bit garbage though compared to a proper 3D printed one... So I'm kind of fine they didn't include one!
@ffwrnais
@ffwrnais Жыл бұрын
Fascinating concept and a great review, thankyou, Cuiv. One thing concerns me maybe - the 60/80 internal adjusting tube changes length by screwing a thread but I can’t see that this had any form of lock to prevent inadvertent rotation and possibly a bit of a ‘wobbly’ joint? I probably worry too much but seems that in astrophotography making everything as rigid as possible is beneficial. Looking forward to the sky testing!
@marvinwhisman3333
@marvinwhisman3333 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing how the scope performs. A very interesting setup at what seems like a pretty good price point.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed Marvin! I got raw frames yesterday so I'll check them soon :-)
@bazpearce9993
@bazpearce9993 Жыл бұрын
Now you know what it's like to get a Sharpstar. That's a gem of a scope. Can't wait to see the results.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I had the 61EDPH II but that's a different league
@deep_space_dave
@deep_space_dave Жыл бұрын
Hey man saw this video on Patreon, here for support ♥
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Dave, as always!
@satoshimuny31
@satoshimuny31 Жыл бұрын
Congrats offered review by Asker!! So interesting design, but honestly with two diameter option, I assume most used backend is reducer for many people I would be appreciated extender is integrated similar to takahashi FOA-60Q so it can be used for both imaging and visual observation
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Thank you Satoshi! True, first instinct would often to just use the reducer - but I'm currently using it with the extender for galaxy season!
@wesleydonnelly2141
@wesleydonnelly2141 Жыл бұрын
Could be a game changer, this setup Cuiv, and the price, I think the price is amazing considering all the extras that come with the 'scope! Definitely good for the hobby, because us amateur Astro-nuts have been paying extortionate amounts of money for our gear for years! One example, last month I bought a simple metal adaptor for my guiding camera to fit directly to my SW 50mm finder scope, and it cost me £33 UK money ( almost $42 USA money ) with postage!? That's just for a simple piece of metal with a thread inside it!? Ridiculous!!?? So anything that helps us save some hard earned cash is definitely welcome! Awesome review Cuiv! Love the channel! Wes, Liverpool UK.( Bortle 9 )
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Yep, the astrophoto tax is real - and no economies of scale...
@JanHavel
@JanHavel Жыл бұрын
Cool. When Dwarflab was sending question form about what they will do next maybe I did sugested them more modular design too. Im not sure how much is possible but I have feeling this approach to astronomy telescope was not yet full explored and I would love to see what they can do with bigger budget :) .. for now Im upgrading my old wagly Celestron Powerseeker 80EQ but one day I would love to get something still transportable but more modular and automatic so its spared from human movement inflicting the view on larger magnification so much :) ... and also something more approchable ... optics is so hard subject ... too much math and physics :D
@thepapatech2067
@thepapatech2067 Жыл бұрын
Being a geek myself...just the idea of this is exciting. As you said, I am not sure how many times you would change it, but it would be nice to have choices, and the ability to easily change to visual as well. I hope the clouds clear soon there (and here in FL as well). I look forward to seeing the 6 different results.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Coming soon :-)
@andrew_marrone
@andrew_marrone Жыл бұрын
Looks like a really good option, as a travelling scope it's a really great idea with dual lens option and the adaptors. I only recently bought the WO GT81 Mk IV, starting to wish I held off a bit longer! The GT 71/81 come with a focuser cap which threads on plus the 81 as of the Mk IV also comes with the indexed rotator as standard and optional accessory for the 71. I guess the only trade off is the ED glass against WO's FPL-53 but for around USD$120 more that really is good value considering what's in the box. Would love to see if that extender fits the GT.... 🤔
@KhanGhilzai
@KhanGhilzai Жыл бұрын
Wonderful review sir... Thx
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Just a preview for now ;)
@fontyfamily7788
@fontyfamily7788 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Cuiv. Looking forward to your detailed review. Hopefully, you can explain some of the star shape graphs Askar provided on its website. Not sure I am reading them right.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I've done some testing under the stars, although I don't directly compare with the star shapes on the Sharpstar site
@psuaero100
@psuaero100 Жыл бұрын
Very cool idea. Can't wait to see some star field images and your judgement of it's performance. Doing many things just OK it's not as good as doing one or two things really well. That said... with a good modular design and high quality components it certainly could be the Swiss Army Knife of modern scopes!
@jasonpatterson8091
@jasonpatterson8091 Жыл бұрын
This, but again, a Swiss army knife isn't a particularly good pocket knife, saw, etc.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I'll check the optical quality
@viewintospace
@viewintospace Жыл бұрын
Great video Cuiv! I think no matter if it will be a success or not - I like the innovation! Especially with telescopes we do not see a lot of innovation and ZWO offering now rebranded Askar scopes as their big thing kind of proves my point.... So great Sharpstar for showing what real innovation looks like. On the downside as a photographer my experience is that the more complex a lens is, the lower the overall quality e.g. Zoom vs. fixed focal lengths.... So quite curious what your experience will be when shooting with them....
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sascha! Yep, and agreed on the ZWO scopes - I'll have optical results soon!
@sssdeecee
@sssdeecee Жыл бұрын
Thank you for yet another great presentation! I have an Askar V in my shopping cart, ready to buy but I've been hesitating because I cannot find a use case for the 60mm objective. But I do love the modular design! I am building a travel scope kit and I am looking for portability AND as much objective as possible. *IF* Askar offered a 110, 120mm objective option, then I think this scope would suddenly be extremely appealing because 80mm is useful for travel and 120 (or even more) would be useful for home viewing. The Askar V is beautiful... thank you for showing me, but I may actually purchase the SharpStar 94EDPH Premium APO S Triplet Refractor.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Decisions decisions :D
@TheCassese
@TheCassese Жыл бұрын
Really interesting, thank you for sharing Cuiv. Using Stelarium or similar software one can overlay all the FOV combinations of focal length and camera(s)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Good tip!
@azzaqmb
@azzaqmb Жыл бұрын
Another great video from the not so lazy geek LOL I quite like the idea of having one case with one OTA with 6 different lengths, ok you can do the same if you got all the right parts but, then you would end up with more parts sitting around taking up space that you may or may not use again. As other people have said could be a nice grab and go case, I could see it at a few star parties. I will admit when you test it out I would like to see you do the same target for the same amount of time, with the same camera. There are a lot of people just starting out that may only have one OTA and camera, and this one setup would give them more to choose from, plus I think it could show more of the problems with the system if you do less matching of the OTA/target/camera.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Yep, same target for same amount of time, same camera and post-reducer/flattener/extender imaging train
@gregerianne3880
@gregerianne3880 Жыл бұрын
I have to hand it to Sharpstar/Askar - they are very innovative and creative, and their products are extremely well thought out!! That is such a cool scope. Let's see if they extend the concept and make larger, modular scopes. Yes, the machining of their scopes is really excellent. I was totally impressed with the quality and fit and finish of my 107PHQ, and the optics are excellent as well. Are the clouds and wind that come with the scope modular as well? 😋 You know, I thought the cover for my fine focuser knob on the 107PHQ was just for shipping and protection. Never thought to use it so cables don't get snagged! Duh!! Thanks for that, Cuiv. Great review!!! Love the design of that little scope. Dying to see how it performs when you test it out.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Definitely an innovation (although Borg has done it for a long while, the innovation is to have made it simple)
@gregerianne3880
@gregerianne3880 Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek See, I learned something else today! I've never heard of Borg (in my VERY limited experience) until you mentioned it and I looked them up! You're just a font of infogeekness. 😅 Thanks, Cuiv!
@DinoDematteis-wx9ou
@DinoDematteis-wx9ou Жыл бұрын
I own two Askar ota's and as of right now I won't buy any other brand, they think of just about every option and part. The quality and function is exceptional!
@JVRost
@JVRost Жыл бұрын
A very interesting concept, it has been asking for a long time to come to astro photography from a simple classic photo
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you still around Volkov! Always a bit worried... But yes this does look like it fills a gap!
@JVRost
@JVRost Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek
@JVRost
@JVRost Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thanks for the concern Cuiv, I'm not shooting stars right now as I'm building an observatory in the attic of my house)
@N4GW
@N4GW Жыл бұрын
Interesting scope. Thanks for sharing. cant wait to see if it works well. Wish it was Petzval
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Yeah I wish it was Petzval too!!
@Apagadorable
@Apagadorable Жыл бұрын
Really interesting scope. Might be a great travel scope with that modularity. You can pack it in pieces in your carry on luggage and in your family's carry on luggage 😊 Who needs anything else, when they can just carry on some optical equipment...
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
That's true too!
@DSOImager
@DSOImager Жыл бұрын
60 with reducer, 80 with reducer, 80 with extender... I think those would be the 3 most common setups. Interesting scope. I can see this working for some.
@robertvanvugt3371
@robertvanvugt3371 Жыл бұрын
That looks great! Always wondered why manufacturers do not make both flattener and flattener/reducer both for their OTAs. Seems a no brainer to me to give more options for FOV and being both a 60mm and 80mm makes it great and very flexible providing the correction by flattener and reducer provide pin point stars to the corners . Will be watching for actual use review especially field correction performance. Thanks for the video preview!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Coming soon for the optical quality!
@givemespace2742
@givemespace2742 11 ай бұрын
It would be very handy for trips away to a dark site. Just throw in the whole case. If the optics are reasonable it's a versatile option at a decent price to give you essentially several scopes in one.
@PRASTRO
@PRASTRO Жыл бұрын
hooooo men those ASKARSare amazing I have theFRA300 and is sharp as hell excellent OTA👍🏻!!!!!
@redabdab
@redabdab Жыл бұрын
This looks like a super nice scope! Thanks for telling us about it because I’d not heard about it before. The rotational angle scale is a nice feature (even my Esprit 150 doesn’t have this). I only have long FL scopes (1050 and 2350) but I’m now seriously tempted to buy this for larger targets as the price point is amazingly good! Very much looking forward to your optical tests. Not entirely sure why you would need a reducer without a flattener, but maybe visual astronomers would use that? I don’t know because I only do astrophotography
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Oh the reducer also acts as a flattener!
@deltacx1059
@deltacx1059 2 ай бұрын
Cool as a concept but you could get a reflector with a reducer and a teleconverter instead for a similar price and have way more aperture.
@guyjordan8201
@guyjordan8201 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a very big challenge for you to thoroughly test each configuration to prove its value. Not a lazy behavior at all… Options are cool and I can see the geek out opportunity here. Would you Please address the back faucet issue. I’m trying to wrap my head around what’s necessary to have the full field Infocus in that regard. Thank you
@guyjordan8201
@guyjordan8201 Жыл бұрын
Back focus not *faucet 🙄
@MrMidiman
@MrMidiman Жыл бұрын
Great overview, thank you. Are the reducer & extender flatteners as well? If not then can you have both the flattener and either reducer or extender attached at the same time?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I should have been clearer, yes the reducer and extender are flatteners as well!
@allenbaylus3378
@allenbaylus3378 Жыл бұрын
do you think that they may make a 100 lens to go along with the 60 and 80 - to give a longer focal length - something over/around 1000mm?
@alexanderreinders4009
@alexanderreinders4009 Жыл бұрын
How about collimation of the optical axis? Any imaging results? Tilt seems to be necessary, not as an option....
@jaedinthompson1845
@jaedinthompson1845 Жыл бұрын
Askar is doing a great job undercutting premium refractor brands in my opinion. All I'd love for them to do is make a copy of the vxd 100 f3.8 but for less money (maybe as much as their 600 model)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Yesss a copy of the VXD would be awesome!
@phcalama
@phcalama Жыл бұрын
Small FYI - the AT72EDII also comes with a cap for the fine focuser.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I think the old WO Star71 as well! I'm not sure exactly of the purpose :)
@garyrear
@garyrear Жыл бұрын
Pre ordered mine yesterday ❤
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Nice! Where is it available for preorder??
@garyrear
@garyrear Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek i can't leave a link but I pre-ordered from all-startelescope in Canada. My 2600mc pro will pair well with the higher focal lengths. What would be a good camera for the 270mm and up to the low 400mm FL? I just pray for round stars around the edges. I've struggled with the William Optics z73 reducer for too long.
@ntaylorblanchard
@ntaylorblanchard Жыл бұрын
Interesting scope. My only concerns would be about how well the threads hold up with use and how sensitive the optics are to exact positioning. If the reducer, for instance, isn't precisely set at 80 (or 60) or the objective isn't on as tight as possible does that throw the image off?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
The threading actually stops at the mark, so there's no guesswork to move from 80 to 60 or vice versa!
@richards3192
@richards3192 Жыл бұрын
Looks nice but any data on the lenses? Glass types? Collimation issues when swapping components about? Chromatic abberation (which was terrible on my only Askar?). There's also little point using the flattener or extender on the 60mm scope as this is covered by the 80mm? I'm not convinced.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
No idea on glass type - I prefer to just check raw frames in each of the configurations. I agree on the 60mm flattener and extender - as I mentioned in the video, I think it's more in the event of travel!
@valentinotera3244
@valentinotera3244 Жыл бұрын
The grace of a elephant at holding gears.
@przemyslawbrys
@przemyslawbrys Жыл бұрын
I'm shopping for some refractor right now. This one looks tempting, just wondering when it becomes available.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Not sure, I hope soon, it really is a very nice scope
@cmahar3
@cmahar3 Жыл бұрын
Askar sees they're going to have to compete with the new line of ZWO refractors, which are very similar. Notice that there's not a single bit of anodized red aluminum anywhere on it. I love how everyone is adding handles/finder brackets. That was a long time coming. Easy ergonomic thing that makes handling much more pleasant.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
The ZWO scopes are Askar scopes :-) it's a collaboration between the two!
@cmahar3
@cmahar3 Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Aha! That's why they look alike.
@angelriper20
@angelriper20 Жыл бұрын
that sounds really cool
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Yess!
@WilliamBlakers
@WilliamBlakers Жыл бұрын
I could imagine if you have some other scopes already you might very well just set the Askar up in its mist useful combo to you, but if you only want one scope this could well be a winner.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Exactly, kind of The One Scope to Rule Them All, and in the Interstellar Darkness Bind Them!
@deepskysanctuary
@deepskysanctuary Жыл бұрын
This is so cool! I’m in the market for both a ~60 and 80mm refractors, so maybe this will kill two birds with one stone! Askar is doing great in bringing fresh competition to the hobby and I’m all for it!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Hey that would work! :)
@Sidecontrol1234
@Sidecontrol1234 Жыл бұрын
That's such a smart idea having interchangable lenses for telescopes.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
It already existed (Borg for instance) but the ecosystem was very intimidating...
@StarlancerAstro
@StarlancerAstro Жыл бұрын
Love the look of it, give me an 80/110 version and I'm in!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
That would be really neat!
@DoktorApe
@DoktorApe Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering what the use cases for the 60mm objective are, given that its focal length is very close to the 80mm with the reducer (360 vs 348). The extended FL of the 60mm is somewhat shorter than the 500mm fl of the 80mm, but it feels like you'd only use the 60mm lens with the reducer when you want 270mm wide field?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I think the dodgiest offerings are the 60mm + flattener and extender, and they're already covered "better" by the 80mm. But the 80mm version is significantly bigger so for travel I do see a use-case
@LogansAstro
@LogansAstro Жыл бұрын
Looks like a beautiful scope. Seems like too many variations maybe? So if there is a field flattener provided and you can only use the other reducer or extender without the flattener , does that mean those two options don’t have a flat fields? The proof is in the imaging so i will be really interested to see your follow up video(s) of what the image quality is like. I’m liking what Askar are producing and love my Askar 65PHQ. Clear skies.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I should have been clearer, both reducer and extender also include flattening elements (as you'd expect for such a scope!). Optical results coming soon!
@LogansAstro
@LogansAstro Жыл бұрын
Ah ok, thanks, makes sense.
@ExoPhotography1
@ExoPhotography1 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting modukar design, and by the looks of it, very good mechanically. But - What kind of glass? Strehl ratio? How is the optical performance? Any info on that? /Daniel, Exo Photography
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
No idea about glass or strehl ratio, but I have star field tests coming up!
@Neanderthal75
@Neanderthal75 Жыл бұрын
I almost dismissed the video saying "not another $3000 scope that I won't buy, but that price they are selling and including both flattener and reducer- I won't even mention the interchangeable main objective lens - this is very appealing! In comparison, people should look at the prices of various other scopes when you buy one and then realize that the flattener for it is not available or available at some ridiculous prices like $700. Or what if I don't want a reducer, but only flattener, and the telescope just don't have a simple flattener for it? I've seen that too. I don't think you can go wrong here. I also have a small Askar scope. I keep mixing it up with Sharpstar, but these 2 brands - Sharpstar and Askar are becoming my favorite ones lately, with high quality gear and well corrected lens.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Exactly - when everything is in the box at that price, it makes a lot more sense!
@markschultz1606
@markschultz1606 Жыл бұрын
Can I use it as a spotting scope.
@marcusa3177
@marcusa3177 Жыл бұрын
that focuser looks *veeeeerrrrryyyyy* similar to what the Svbony SV550 uses. Down to the use of a cap LOL. And that blower? That's for all the felt fuzz that the lining will shed over time loljk I'm not really a fan of that thick single telescope ring ie single point of failure. That swooping foot is probably an acquired taste (I like my scopes to look traditional) but eh, at least you won't need risers anymore. Given how similar the FL/f-ratio values are when you mix and match reducers/extenders and objectives, I think they could've gotten away with selling one or the other objective lens in the kit (and a smaller case, consequently), then the other objective as an add-on. But eh, what do I know - Askar most likely crunched the numbers and figured this approach is the best for them. Let's see. Love the small quality-of-life things like the built-in rotator, really long plate, and dew shield lock though. Wish it had a bit more red; y'all know red paint makes your rig go faster LOL Clear skies, clean, fuzz-free glass!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Agree on the single ring, it didn't occur to me as I was filming the video
@briandiaz3758
@briandiaz3758 Жыл бұрын
the big problem with those OTA are the quality of the reducer.
@beatsntoons
@beatsntoons Жыл бұрын
this is so cool :)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
It is! Now does it perform optically? :)
@DrawsACircle
@DrawsACircle Жыл бұрын
Sight for sore eyes 😍 The Swiss army knife of telescopes, wonder if the can keep up with the demand - it’s gping to be a super seller if the optics are top notch (why shouldn’t they)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I'll test the optics soon!
@DrawsACircle
@DrawsACircle Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to it @@CuivTheLazyGeek. I’ve started planning how to tell my wife I need to increase my 2023 astro budget considerably - any good ideas how to get an easy acceptance? 😂
@astroberg4774
@astroberg4774 Жыл бұрын
I use to have a Takahashi FS-60C which was also modular. With a reducer or extender it went between 270mm to 600mm. I found it a little pointless as although the 270mm was great and fast, the 600mm was not enough for galaxies.
@JemCruz
@JemCruz Жыл бұрын
"...ah it's a really nice feeling to pull it in and out. there's definitely a lot of resistance..." - Cuiv
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
It is very tight after all 😆
@ten101337
@ten101337 Жыл бұрын
So that's flattener, extender and reducer. I'm guessing extender and reducer also have flattener built in?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
You are correct! I should have been clearer in the video!
@filup7419
@filup7419 Жыл бұрын
People always talk about the perfect "grab and go" scope and I think this is it. If the optics are even half-way decent, the versatility and light weight of this scope would be on the top of my list for a "grab and go" for both simple visual and some astrophotography. In a way, I hope it isn't any good because I will buy it otherwise.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I'm checking the optics now and I think your wallet might suffer... :p
@hyperboogie
@hyperboogie Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use both the reducer AND flattener at the same time? Do they thread one into the other?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Nope, but there's no need - both reducer and extender also flatten the image
@alcosound
@alcosound Жыл бұрын
Quite a nice combination, like a Swiss army knife of optics. I wonder how well it performs optically and in astrophotography compared with conventional designs.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I'll check it optically speaking and post a video/raws
@alcosound
@alcosound Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek by the way, with the slew of ZWO announcements, I was quite astonished. The Seestar S50 looks like a very interesting scope
@astromatt75
@astromatt75 Жыл бұрын
William Optics will need to up their game
@TheAntibozo
@TheAntibozo Жыл бұрын
Maybe while you wait for clear skies, Cuiv, you could see how it works in daylight for wildlife.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
True! But from my balcony the risk of being mistaken for a creeper is a bit too high 😨
@jimzielinski946
@jimzielinski946 Жыл бұрын
I did a quick check of their web site. I don't see any mention of exactly what glass types they use. I know I'm being fussy, but I'd like to know. The versatility and included accessories for this scope make it extremely attractive.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I have no idea either - I don't care if the results line up
@jimzielinski946
@jimzielinski946 Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek my understanding is that synthetic fluorite (FPL glass???) and some LD glass can supposedly produce clearer more contrastier images. Such glass should also limit blue/violet fringing or out of focus blobs. If the glass can pass some near UV, it would open up the opportunity for using (probably just the 60mm) lens for UV flower photography... at a distance, of course. Versatility is good!
@astroimagers
@astroimagers Жыл бұрын
Telling my wife - "Honey, it's like having a shoulder purse that can convert to a satchel and a tote in one! Isn't it cute?" May I get one for father's day?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Mwahaha good arguments!
@arthurwiegman5512
@arthurwiegman5512 Жыл бұрын
How much is the weight of the telescope and are they different using the externer, flattner and reducer?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
You can check all the details in the official page linked in the description!
@paulfgreen6644
@paulfgreen6644 Жыл бұрын
Can it be used for solar pictures with a Hershel wedge
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I can't speak for Herschel wedges, but since it's air spaced it could be a good choice for the Quark eyepiece (without reducer/flattener/extender)
@TheAstrocast
@TheAstrocast Жыл бұрын
this looks incredible. if they can pull this off for ~1700 USD it will be my next telescope. Assuming optical quality is up to par!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
I'll check :)
@heliczer
@heliczer Жыл бұрын
ZWO/Sharpstar (ASKAR) Merger....? With ZWO bringing out scopes that look very similar to the ASKAR, the new 2600MC dual camera, and AM3 mount - perhaps this partnership is a possibility...
@luboinchina3013
@luboinchina3013 Жыл бұрын
I had the idea of Dual Camera long time ago and it is nice to see that somebody thought the same, or somehow the idea got to the right person.😊 However, it is questionable if it can find star with the narrowband filter...
@johnmheaton
@johnmheaton Жыл бұрын
It's been done before with a CCD camera evidently
@bokvaj
@bokvaj Жыл бұрын
the "new" scopes by ZWO actually ARE branded Askars. Look at the specs and compare them with Askar PHQ line.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
At least collaboration for now (confirmed in FB comments by ZWO that the ZWO scopes are PHQ rebrands)
@learningastrophotography5162
@learningastrophotography5162 Жыл бұрын
My only question is does the extender and reducer also flatten the field?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Yes they both flatten the field
@pederp5749
@pederp5749 Жыл бұрын
This is very cool. But for me it would be 4 scopes in one. Not 6. It would only make sense to use the 60mm with the reducer. I would never use a 360mm f6 when I could build a 384mm f4.8. Or a 446mm f7.43 instead of the 495mm f6.18.
@stevenbarousseii7331
@stevenbarousseii7331 Жыл бұрын
I initially came to the same conclusion, but because the 60mm configuration is smaller, it has some niche use in portability for hiking to dark sites. Only reason I can see using the 60mm w/flattener or extender
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Yep, I agree if at home - when traveling though it starts to make sense
@nuforuk
@nuforuk Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh I like that 😅
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын
Me too :)
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