First look at the DeHavilland Canada DHC4 Caribou in Microsoft Flight Simulator

We take the De Havilland DHC-4 Caribou for a first test flight in Microsoft Flight Simulator - taking off in truly awful conditions at Boonville, then switching to a nice sunny day for a touch-and-go, followed by some radio navigation over to Ukiah. Wonderful aircraft!
NOTE - Apologies for saying the aircraft is free during the video - of course it's not free - but it costs far less than many other aircraft in the simulator!
#msfs #caribou #msfs #asobo #dehavilland #dhc4 #caribou #transport #stol #aviation #aircraft #flying #flight #firstlook

[@i.r.wayright1457]

I was stationed at Vinh Long Army Airfield in 1968 and 1969 as a member of the 1st Air Cavalry. We had a 3,000 foot runway and used to watch the Caribou pilots take off after they dropped their load. They would get off the ground at half the runway length, level off at 20 feet, clean up the gear and flaps, build airspeed, then stand the thing on the tail until they ran out of airspeed around 2000 '. It was standard practice to avoid ground fire.

[@jonbeckett]

Great story - thanks for sharing :)

[@patrickvolpe7508]

I like when Asobo releases these types of airplanes. It’s nice to have a vintage workhorse and fight against the weather. That’s some real flying.

[@mro9466]

there is a ton of classic aircrafts that needs to be included ! 707, DH Comet, C130 ...

[@jonbeckett]

It's good fun :)

[@jamesrothwell8693]

@@mro9466 Vickers Viscount would be interesting too.

[@user-lx6dk4xd4r]

I don't. Do you know why? I will enlighten you a little bit here. When Asobo release halfbaked addons, I mean half good....okish....you know....think....Serious 3rd party developers will not make those addons themselves because obviously too much of the market is already filled. Instead of having a good developer deliver us a study level dhc-4 caribou we have to settle with this...this dull flying on rails half ass half good product that you will get tired of in a week. Who would you rather have making addons.....asobo or milviz/pmdg etc? Ohhh, i think i know your answer....you prefer asobo addons.

[@MegaPeedee]

If one was a Vietnam Veteran "dull as dishwater" wouldn't be a term used. These are 'sacred' to those who flew in them and stir emotions, just as the Huey does. They were a great aircraft in military service and it was a sad day for veterans here in Australia when they went to museums or the scrapyard, although I believe at least one is still flying here as a heritage aircraft. I don't think anything has yet replaced the Caribou for fixed wing battlefield operations, due to it's amazing short field and off strip abilities. Thanks for your demo of this wonderful aircraft, and thanks to Asobo for including it. There may never again be the likes of the Caribou (the Buffalo was a derivative).

[@jonbeckett]

I love aircraft like this - which I think I said :)

[@DeanStalker]

You're in luck, HARS owns two flyable examples based at Temora. The C27J Spartan is technically the replacement for these wonderful old girls, but without the character or style.

[@sheriff0017]

@@DeanStalker They're based in Albion Park, not Temora.

[@DarthPlaya]

CTRL+E DOES *NOT* DISABLE THE GUST LOCK! I learned the hard way by pushing the throttle to full on TO and sunday cruising off the end of the runway at 30 knots multiple times 🤦🏽‍♂DOOH! Great review as usual Jonathan. Thumbs up given. 👍🏽

[@jonbeckett]

Yep - somebody else told me that earlier too :)

[@Erny_Module]

Definitely the right call to change the weather and show off this brilliant aircraft - that cockpit is a thing of beauty! You MSFS guys are really spoilt for choice these days and it looks like the quality is improving all the time. Excellent video too! - really enjoy these short demo flights!

[@jonbeckett]

Many thanks!

[@blainehankins]

Really happy to see you flying this area. I lived near Booneville for 40yrs (St. Helena) and rode motorcycles extensively throughout the region. It is one of the most beautiful in the US. You should fly west from there and up the coast to Mendocino. Amazing views!

[@jonbeckett]

I flew that way with some friends last week - amazing views, as you say :)

[@arclight4625]

The intro with the plane sitting on the tarmac in the low vis weather looks really cool. Flight sims have come a long way...

[@jonbeckett]

I agree!

[@D.Frasure]

I really enjoy this aircraft, have many hours in FSX and FSEconomy in one and was stoked when we got one for MSFS 2020.

[@cursecat111]

Cheers Jonathan. That gusset lock has got a lot of people like me.I've had the Caribou in older Sims and never had that gusset lock before to my memory anyway.

[@jonbeckett]

I think you meant gust lock :)

[@ralphconnell8163]

Thanks for this. I first saw it and was in two minds, mainly because it was an asobo product, perhaps a little unfairly. Having watched this and your usual detailed review. It's now at the top of my list. Thanks again.

[@jonbeckett]

Glad I could help

[@elj320]

Great videos ALWAYS Thank you for GREAT presentation and content 👍🙂

[@jonbeckett]

Thanks again!

[@dcnolde]

Very cool airplane thanks for the great reviews you do!

[@jonbeckett]

You're welcome :)

[@acomingextinction]

Been having so much fun with this model. The Caribou is a tough old donkey and it's a joy flying through bad conditions.

[@jonbeckett]

It really is, isn't it.

[@eduardogranja6418]

Awesome aircraft and great job with the video. Thanks

[@jonbeckett]

Many thanks!

[@VonDrinkoften]

I was hoping you had done a tutorial for this aircraft (you don't disappoint) Just what I was after. Very informative. Cheers!

[@Dagrond]

You may have noticed that your RPM and MANIFOLD along with lights were not working on the instrument panel. There are two covered switches for DC POWER that you have to turn on or they die with the battery or some-such. Just below the sign for flap limits on the copilot side.

[@jonbeckett]

I'll do a more detailed look at it soon - it's a bit of a struggle at the moment because there is no documentation!

[@flyingpedal]

Fantastic Aircraft with Fanstatic review.🙂 Thanks!

[@jonbeckett]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@markscars1069]

Yep will have to get this, looks impressive. Perhaps handy for nipping around The Alps.

[@S.G.A.R.C.O]

I was flying it and it started just going down for no reason I died

[@zeberdee1972]

great review , i must admit this is my sort of aircraft and i have already purchased and flown it and yes it is very good .

[@jonbeckett]

I love it

[@maddogmorgan1]

Aussie Air Force flew Caribous for 45 years, used to love watching them doing short field practice at my home airfield

[@jonbeckett]

Awesome :)

[@donaldholman9070]

Great video. I love the heavy weather. When visibility is low that is a time to rely on instruments or just sit on the couch. Lol

[@jonbeckett]

Well said!

[@abbynormal7389]

Thanks for your great sim videos. 😉

[@jonbeckett]

Glad you like them!

[@seanpinnell4806]

I agree, I think this aircraft is absolutely brilliant.

[@IhminenSuomesta]

You and a330 driver are the beat flight simulation channels

[@jonbeckett]

Cheers :)

[@johnb.3655]

Nice, have to get to your next video on this. But this was a nice intro..!

[@jonbeckett]

Cheers!

[@marshie1337]

My game has also been freezing for a few seconds, releasing and chugging fine after that. I'm guessing an issue with Nvidia drivers or some advanced setting defaulting back to off/on after a driver update (happens quite a bit). Also, I Booneville to Ukiah and that whole area is my favorite for GA putting around and idk why. Such a cool area! Great vid!

[@patrickvolpe7508]

I was thinking about this type of thing as well. I bought a lot of airports in Alaska and the northwest. It’s just cool to fly through the mountains in the low and slow but still have a decent airport to land it.

[@jonbeckett]

It's always done it - I'm inclined to think it's a motherboard fault of some kind. It's very odd.

[@kokoeteantigha389]

Did you say dull as ditchwater??? Not by a long chalk, mate; this is flying as it was meant to be! I'm ordering this soon as I can. Thanks for the presentation, Jon. Really appreciated.

[@jonbeckett]

Have fun

[@kokoeteantigha389]

@@jonbeckett Just picked it!! Yaaay!!

[@bankabled]

Very nice. Thank you.

[@jonbeckett]

Thank you too!

[@Sekuru_Dread]

Hi and thanks for another great Video. Is there a chance that you might do a settings guide or tips video for graphics and steady performance?

[@jonbeckett]

I just run on Ultra :)

[@Smokeyr67]

I'm looking forward to some enterprising and talented "painter" drawing up some RAAF skins - I spent a few days operating a BBP in the NT (in the late 80's?) and at that stage the Boo boos had all sorts of technicolour paint schemes :)

[@jonbeckett]

That would be cool!

[@mikecoffee100]

Stunning I can't beleive its Asobo and.... We know Your not leading us up the Garden path :)

[@jonbeckett]

I know!!

[@bailsoft]

Good video as always. I do have one observation / question though, was that an electrical failure at 27:16?

[@jonbeckett]

Yes - I need to go back over the plane and check the generators/alternators. Although it comes with a checklist, it's very lacking in depth. I will be returning to the Caribou for a proper "guide" type video - explaining what everything does.

[@ZiggyAir]

For me it is bluetooth related. I have a bluetooth keyboard that can control two different computers. When I change back to my game pc, it freezes like that. Splendid video, btw.

[@jonbeckett]

Yeah - bluetooth is off :/

[@patrickvolpe7508]

I see you use the little NAV Map. I haven’t looked into it yet, but it must be pretty useful.

[@jonbeckett]

Yes - it works well.

[@mikebakkeyt]

Did the binder in the back suggest it was ini who developed? That would make sense to me. Engines sounded a little anaemic, flight model looked slightly twitchy and I would have like to see some (very) visible smoke but for the money - seems fair value to me. Will probably get later.

[@jonbeckett]

Not sure who the actual developer is. As far as I'm aware Inibuilds (along with lots of other places) are just management companies - they contract developers to build the aircraft.

[@jayteeaitch]

@@jonbeckett I think you will find that it is Orbx

[@jonbeckett]

@@jayteeaitch yes - but I bet they didn't actually develop it :) I could be wrong of course.

[@raymondnardozza9652]

Hi Jonathan. I’m kinda like you when it comes to MSFS. Watching my computer flying a computer is not really my thing. I love the Caribou. Keep flying using VOR’s and NDB’s. Glad that the GPS unit is out of the main views. There is still something that is puzzling me. The instrument under the IVSI and to the left of the de-icing panel as a needle that I have no idea where it’s pointing to. I did some test flight changing VOR frequencies on VOR 1 and 2, NDB 1 and 2, but it doesn’t seem to affect it. Maybe you can help on that one. Tks.

[@jonbeckett]

I'll take a look next time I'm in it :)

[@Ubi-o]

I like that it doesn’t have ap. Kinda makes you have to fly it. This plane is a joy to fly. Slow but very smooth. See ya in northern Ca. 😂

[@jonbeckett]

Cheers :)

[@scotty6346]

Kudos to Asobo for creating and releasing lesser known aircraft, I've just spent the last 2 hours looking at this plane on youtube and i love it, I've just purchased it and would love to do a round the world trip in it! I reackon it could handle it? It cost me like £12! Why do PMDG and Just flight etc charge so much when you can get this for £12!!

[@jonbeckett]

It's a local legend - I think Asobo commissioned it.

[@whammo11224]

i don't know how to fly a plane without a GPS! That being said, excellent plane and video!

[@jonbeckett]

Use a compass :)

[@whammo11224]

@@jonbeckett Actually I meant autopilot! :)

[@dillank3240]

I will pick this up. It's right up my alley. Thanks! That was a great video! By the way, I don't believe it is free. Oh well.

[@jonbeckett]

If you read the notes on the video, I note that :) And the pinned note :)

[@dillank3240]

@@jonbeckett Oops. So you did!

[@MRJoos66]

I also have this aircraft in my hangar but have never flown it. A very good video. Maybe I'll also take a seat in the cockpit in the next few days. What happened at 27:10? Did you run out of power? Did you forget to start the generator? Or does this generator provide insufficient power at idle for all the lights that are turned on?

[@jonbeckett]

It was my own fault - in this first video, I didn't turn on the generators - they are in the middle of the instrument panel.

[@saren6538]

Really want to invest in a Bruner force feedback yoke .. it would be mayhem with this aircraft hand flying it !!

[@jonbeckett]

It really would!

[@yams900]

Well done Jon ! She's gorgeous :)

[@jonbeckett]

Cheers!

[@jonbeckett]

p.s. turns out you CAN reverse the propeller pitch. Use the 0-100 axis on the throttles, and set neutral to 50 in the sensitivity settings :) Also - it's NOT FREE. I mis-spoke towards the end of the video.

[@Dagrond]

You can also set a button to reverse thrust, or pull back on the actual handle in the sim which will force it into reverse. Its a pain though and doesn't seem to work that well. My problem is that little garmen just won't work.

[@dwlimage5209]

I thought that the "free" plug was a strange comment. Perhaps it's free to prolific producers of sim review videos? Looks great, but I won't be investing until somebody adds a basic heading / altitude hold AP. I'm doing a lap of Australia at present, and too much like hard work on the sort of leg lengths that entails. Thanks for a lot of great content, without the high pace and plethora of teeny, tiny verbal tics some other authors bombard us with....yeah?

[@GumperVanLier]

What a neat looking plane. The cockpit is a little messy, but with no autopilot, I won't purchase this. I wish they would at least add a altitude hold and heading bug like Just Flight did on one of their small planes. The AI works, but if windy, flies off course but does correct itself periodically. I don't need it to land. Jonathan, Just Flight has the Steam Gauge Analog Baron and Bonanza coming soon. That should be fun. Are you going to purchase and review the 715 Camair 480 that is now in the Marketplace?

[@jonbeckett]

Not sure about the CamAir - I will be looking at the analogue baron and bonanza though :)

[@ironmanballer4868]

What a wonderful aircraft I will definitely be learning to fly that! Anyone know what’s the requirements for that in terms of runway length to takeoff and land?

[@jonbeckett]

1000 ft according to online sources.

[@outdoorsdelmarva5691]

1200 feet my friend. Military needed that requirement for the missions it flew.

[@Beechnut985]

Made a static line jump in 1977 at Ft Bragg out of one of these.

[@jonbeckett]

Awesome :)

[@OscarDiaz-nn9ch]

Suggestion to showcase the Antonov An2 in Cuba once it releases as there’s lots of them there! The weather is always nice in the island.

[@AdamVonSzabo]

We also have plenty of An2s in Hungary. Can't wait to fly it in the sim.

[@jonbeckett]

I have a feeling the Antonov won't be out any time soon, because of the war in Ukraine

[@owainwright6055]

Love that cockpit. Almost worth reinstalling MSFS for :)

[@jonbeckett]

There are lots of great aircraft in MSFS now.

[@845SiM]

Loving this plane so far, just as a fyi, if you need a wing man for landing and flying shots i am free and willing most days.

[@jonbeckett]

Hah - I keep meaning to experiment with the replay tool in FlightSim.To - I'll get around to it at some point. It means doing post production to cut shots together though - at the moment i do none of that :) I'm like Batman - first time, every time lol

[@sammango5005]

like the sunroof look

[@jonbeckett]

Heh

[@mack9107]

I wish it had a A/P option. Overall a great plane to fly.

[@jonbeckett]

The real thing doesn't :)

[@FV4030]

Anyone else notice the tail nav light stayed in position when function testing the rudder?

[@jarheadcamel7462]

Potentially my favourite aircraft in the sim, now I just need a Hawker Siddeley Andover and I’ll be complete

[@jonbeckett]

Or a Blackburn Beverley :)

[@coriscotupi]

I'd love t see it's slightly more modern sibling, the DHC-5 Buffalo, in MSFS.

[@jonbeckett]

I have no doubt it will arrive at some point :)

[@k1ng5urfer]

Same! The plane that made me love planes. My Grandpa flew Buffalo out of Comox for RCAF442. He had pictures of the things and the ch-113 all in the red and yellow SAR, and we gotta to check a real one out and actually sit in it the cockpit (on the ground) lmao.

[@k1ng5urfer]

I've got the 90s SAR liveries on my ch-4 but it's just not quite the same. Gimme my 12ft props dammit! That prop effect is cool as on the ch5

[@peterbassey9668]

Are you telling me this is included in the latest sim update!?! By the beard of my sainted aunt, this is wunderbar!!!

[@jonbeckett]

No - it has been released alongside it. It's quite cheap though :)

[@dancetweety10]

You forgot to put on the generators. Good thing you only did a short flight. For the rest, it was a nice movie.

[@jonbeckett]

Yep - lots of others noticed it too :) In subsequent flights I pointed it out.

[@aceflywings]

what do you think of JATO planes for MSFS?

[@jonbeckett]

Never tried one.

[@AlpineWarren]

I wonder if default autopilot key mappings work?

[@jonbeckett]

Nope.

[@jep1103]

It's not bad I suppose for 12 quid, cockpit is very nice.....but the sound😣 for goodness it's a radial wish they would sort it out

[@jonbeckett]

How do we know that's not how the real thing sounds ?

[@AdamVonSzabo]

You said in the end that this is a free aircraft (that would be cool), but it 14.99$ in the Marketplace.

[@jonbeckett]

Yes - and realised immediately afterwards and wrote it in the notes. I knew people would notice lol

[@HercNav]

How are the avionics? Do they all work?

[@jonbeckett]

Most of it does, yes.

[@Robinbermann]

This plane not having an Autopilot has got to be the biggest letdown! Not even gyropilot:( Would it be technically possible to mod one in or is something like that not possible?

[@jonbeckett]

Yes, you can mod the files, but it's not SUPPOSED to have one!

[@kokoeteantigha389]

@@jonbeckett How about pressing Z to hold the attitude and all that? Does it work with this aircraft??

[@Robinbermann]

@@jonbeckett I get that, but I have to fly with a controller so most of my flights are on autopilot thats why. Tbh I only need it to hold/change the heading nothing more. But I guess then its waiting if someone makes a mod with an AP.

[@ironknobair]

Just bought it and took it for a spin. Pity no AP, short hops for this one.

[@ziepex7009]

Shame that!

[@jonbeckett]

Well... if the real thing has no autopilot... :) This is a similar argument to people complaining the CJ4 has no auto throttle :)

[@rays2241]

Any one know of a manual for the aircraft? I sure wish one came with it. By the way great video. I do love this plan.

[@jonbeckett]

Google is your friend... www.flightsimulator.com/aircraft-manuals/

[@userDFboeing]

why at 27:15 on final you lost electrical power ??

[@jonbeckett]

Because I didn't switch on the generators :) I cover it in a later video. They are not in the checklist!

[@pto200]

Is this all default scenery?

[@jonbeckett]

Yes

[@pto200]

That is nice. Blows X Plane clear off the table.

[@liortaylor5305]

lovely video! this is payware though, isn't it?

[@jonbeckett]

Yes. I noted in the video notes and in the pinned comment. Never listen to me lol

[@paulkirkland3263]

I love this sort of aircraft, but I think I should have watched this review ( and those to come from others ) before spending £12.49 on it. The lack of an autopilot is puzzling to say the least, and I can't really believe that the real-world aircraft lacks one. Just a rudimentary heading and altitude hold provided on a tablet would have been better than nothing - even Ant's Tiger Moth has that. The rest of the cockpit is good, and reminds me of the Aerosoft Catalina with all the glass around and above you. More functionality would have been welcome, such as opening windows, but I can live with that. Outside, it looks okay, though the dents and bumps are over done on the rear fuselage, and the textures aren't very sharp. I hope the modding community can gain access to the Caribou's innards, because while there is plenty to like about it, there's also plenty to wish for. 7/10 from me.

[@jonbeckett]

To be honest, Ant's tiger moth shouldn't have had an autopilot. Remember there's always the AI pilot. I actually side with the developers on this one - if an aircraft had no autopilot, it shouldn't be there in the game. And no, the DHC4 didn't have an autopilot :) You do realise you can modify the config file of aircraft to add an invisible autopilot? :)

[@paulkirkland3263]

@@jonbeckett I must say I am surprised the Caribou had no autopilot in real life - I would have thought they were a necessity for such an aircraft. How very odd. I was pleased Ant added the tablet 'autopilot' - it makes long distance flying in the Tiger Moth a bit easier for flight simmers, even if fictional. No, I wasn't aware that there is a config tweak to add autopilot functions - I will go and look that up. Thanks for the info!

[@Beery1962]

Wait. There's no autopilot in this? Surely the real aircraft had at least some kind of gyropilot.

[@jonbeckett]

Apparently not :)

[@Beery1962]

@@jonbeckett Blimey! I wouldn't want to fly this thing to its maximum range of 1100 nautical miles without at least an A-3 Gyropilot so I can nip into the cargo hold and grab a can of Coke and a packet of choccy Digestives.

[@jamesdouglas3631]

Freezes are from live weather refreshing

[@jonbeckett]

You think ?

[@KIA-MIA-POW]

Canadian flag with British registration?

[@NakedSnake-4ofClubs]

its no study level but thats ok for 15 euros but having listened to the real thing here on yt i have to say the sound of those two engines is somewhat lackluster when compared to the deafening deep roar of the real thing

[@jonbeckett]

Maybe somebody will release a sound pack for it ?

[@NakedSnake-4ofClubs]

@@jonbeckett yeah that'd be great

[@kenbarthSimAV8tor]

Gotta give this bird a go eh :)

[@jonbeckett]

It's good fun.

[@jeancolapierrearmande3326]

The engines starting doesn’t sound very realistic to me.

[@mrthomaslaux1]

Where the hell is is the asi ?

[@jonbeckett]

To the left of the attitude indicator - directly in front of the pilot.

[@PeterMatthess]

'a free aircraft' - I thought this cost in the marketplace?

[@jonbeckett]

On the notes and the pinned comment I note that I misspoke.

[@AlphaIndigo]

its not free but it is nice !

[@jonbeckett]

Yep - I noted that afterwards in the notes :)

[@hillbillyflyin613]

It sounds like a sewing machine

[@jonbeckett]

Maybe the real thing does :)

[@RobisonRacing68]

Jon, you're bad for my pocketbook. You keep making me buy planes. I had NO intention of getting this kind of ugly aircraft and 5 minutes into the video I'm checking my bank account to see if I can swing it. I'm regretting my subscription. LOL!

[@jonbeckett]

Hahaha - sorry :)

[@fernandomonramos1129]

Now that’s what I like to be able to shortcut e to start why these developers make planes when u can’t do that for Myself we don’t have the time to spend one hour later our learning everything I have a daughter and I wish airplane ward ward shortcut start at the same time would work with the world map planning I hate it when they make a plane and doesn’t work with the word Map or you can’t auto start

[@jonbeckett]

I actually prefer it the other way around :)

[@fernandomonramos1129]

@@jonbeckett ya that’s fine I meant to say keep both options because for example I bought the crj and I find it hard to do a flight plan with the atc on cuz I got two flight plans going at the same time simbrief and so on the game was advertised for east of use right so that being said they should make planes that work with both systems if you want to start it by pressing every switch ya that’s fine if I just want to start it it with the shortcut key then keep the options that come with the game not cut corners I don’t fly the crj cuz it won’t work with the world map i just don’t like setting like 30 to set up a plan then try to sync with atc and world map to fly I am sure not the only one I am just saying if others can do it then just flight for example and the hi fidelity developer can too

[@fernandomonramos1129]

@@jonbeckett I would of wish if a youuber dose a video about that because not everyone wants to switch ever switch

[@845SiM]

It’s a ugly bloody thing but….. it’s my kind of old school.

[@jonbeckett]

I love it :)

[@aaroncrump2696]

“remarkable for a free aircraft”. remarkable aircraft - yes; free -not so much. inexpensive but not quite free.

[@jonbeckett]

Yes - mis-spoke towards the end there :)

[@ilynx2008]

You have to pay for this ultra ugly,boring and ancient airplane? Thanks but no thanks,not even for free! (And of course with all the respect for those who like it!)

[@jonbeckett]

To each their own. I love it :)

[@ilynx2008]

@@jonbeckett Hi there,oh,abolutely! Sorry I sounded too critical,but yes,I agree with you! Its not that bad either,It was the way I expressed my opinion that was heavy!

[@para55a2]

is it downloadable via the MSFS store? Marketplace?

[@jonbeckett]

It's exclusive to the marketplace.

[@para55a2]

@@jonbeckett thank you

[@para55a2]

does it come with a checklist?

[@jonbeckett]

Yes. Quite a basic one, but functional.

[@user-lx6dk4xd4r]

Free?

[@user-lx6dk4xd4r]

I mean half good....okish....you know....think....Serious 3rd party developers will not make those addons themselves because obviously too much of the market is already filled. Instead of having a good developer deliver us a study level dhc-4 caribou we have to settle with this...this dull flying on rails half ass half good product that you will get tired of in a week. Who would you rather have making addons.....asobo or milviz/pmdg etc? Asobo ATR so called expert level. What a load of crap that was. Milviz cancelled their plans for making an ATR because Asobo/Hans Hartmann spewed it out in record time making that so called expert level ATR. Lmao. Here is also what I see microsoft/asobo are doing wrong in the long run. Sure they can make a ton of money making half good addons and lots of people will buy it cause they have a casual approach to flightsim. They prefer to flood the market with "crap" so only they will dominate the market. What do you think of the fenix a320? Why would microsoft hire inibuilds to make another half good addon a320? They want to have the market flooding us with "crap" and hurt the good craftsmen who actually knows what they do. I dislike microsoft asobo a lot for this reason alone. They have time to make shit addons but no time to give us season textures or a good ATC in the sim. Go figure. Wake up dude.