First signs of autism

[@cjkadar2832]

I see a future figure skater. My eldest does that and she loves it.

[@Urfav_addisonxx]

❤❤❤

[@simonea2233]

Just my thought! Give him a pair of skates and let him bloom🎉

[@bodhiswayze1892]

I came on here to say the same thing. That would be just the ultimate spin! ❤

[@wendyvermette9095]

that's the first thing I thought of

[@naturalscratcher9498]

That’s exactly what I thought about when I saw him spending around with his tablet! He’s going to be pretty great!

[@anonymous5583]

Wow.... This is actual talent..... Could you imagine this on ice? He'd win medals... Hands down no issues that little boy is born to be a figure skater.

[@anonymous5583]

@@Michaelyay34 LOL pretty much, my ex was a professional figure skater for 22 years he literally had a spin block for him to keep up spinning at home, it's not as *easy* as you think.... And Just because you're uneducated on the talent some of us see doesn't mean the rest of us are, so I highly recommend if you "don't understand" what you're talking about, it's probably best to just stay quiet 🤣🤣

[@anonymous5583]

@@Michaelyay34 also if you think it's *not that special* get up and do it without throwing up, falling over, getting dizzy or feeling vertigo 👌👌👌👌

[@anonymous5583]

@YourFavoriteRoach a little bit of research goes a long way 👌👌👌

[@genevieve.celestine]

@@Michaelyay34 don’t be so pressed buddy, my parents and family were already planning an athlete life for me when I was 2 and when I was 7 they found out I was super athletic and had naturally great stamina and were putting me on sports like figure skating and gymnastics

[@ilikealotofthings731]

​@YourFavoriteRoach why are y'all so pressed? Is it because you're an absolute failure in life and can't see the potential in others so you have to express your hate to hide your insecurity that you will never achieve anything in life?

[@AlexisNouvel-zn6vf]

I'm an Aspie and I did this all the time as a kid, yes you do get so good you start avoiding obstacles 😎 *stims are the result of excess energy that needs to be released. Being on the spectrum should be embraced, well done mom!

[@todayisabellalearned]

GET THAT KID A PAIR OF ICE SKATES!

[@ambernectar3158]

Noooo. You will have to create a safe space. It is challenging as a Special Needs Teaching Assistant and exhausting as well as I will admit boring. The love and pay helps. As a mum.....love and patience.

[@hippychick420]

​@@ambernectar3158 yes so make them not do shit due to disability bc YOU found it boring.

[@mrssmurf55]

​@@ambernectar3158 I think you should reconsider what you do as a career for the sake of the children you work with!

[@ambibambi1021]

@@ambernectar3158 not doing something because it takes time and effort? Thats what we teach kids NOT to do where I’m from but go off I guess?

[@ambernectar3158]

@@ambibambi1021 not sure whete you are coming from or going. Never mind. Peace ✌️ ☮️

[@ZoeF.O]

*stim/s (It stands for stimulation). He has such a specific way to be adorable! It was a GREAT idea for starting with stretching his little body at 6-ish years old. Brava mamma! ❤

[@hannah_963]

My nephew has autism, and I can't describe the surprise we had when we were watching him spin and spin and SPIN without runing into anything! He even stops immediately if he felt like he's running into something or someone! He has a really impressive balance and energy!

[@360decrees2]

Yes, it's impressive that he can stop without becoming dizzy. As a kid, I used to spin around on the lawn for fun but when I stopped, the surroundings seem to spin. I'd fall over sideways on the grass but it felt as if the ground had tilted up to meet me. An acrobat I was not.

[@TheAutisticFrog]

Dang, get em’ into ballet!

[@janettesweet6087]

I believe it is from a past life. It is really perfectly done.

[@joan.nao1246]

​@@janettesweet6087 like the Whirling Dirvish

[@staeriix]

this is my younger cousin! id definitely recommend him into something like ice/figure skating.

[@amandarucker8242]

Girl get him in dance classes and ice-skating . He will get 🥇 gold medal. Praying for you n your family.

[@obikenobi9775]

What are you praying for him? There is nothing wrong with him.

[@VeraDonna]

​@@obikenobi9775 did you not listen that the kid has autism and ADHD? Do you realise how many obstacles neurodiverse people have to face?

[@vchafab]

@@obikenobi9775 I have an autistic little brother and it has been very hard on my family, and especially my parents. He is low functioning and has immense anger issues and will need to be cared for for the rest of his life.

[@nugget-]

@@obikenobi9775 As the other people said, ADHD and autism separately can already be challenging, and to have both leaves a high chance of obstacles. However, praying for people doesn't necessarily mean they're praying for problems to go away, it's equivalent to "I hope you have a good day" in a lot of scenarios. So in any case, if your comment was rhetorical, it was pretty unnecessary.

[@fishyfishyy]

​@@vchafab I understand that your situation must be extremely difficult, but the original comment was phrased the way some people may understand as trying to cure him, when neurodivergence is not a curable thing.

[@juliemiller9258]

Years ago, I often volunteered in a class that was mostly autistic kids. Yes, they all loved spinning. From what I understood, the spinning seemed to give them a sense of normalizing their brain. They don't get dizzy like non autistic people do. I made that them a low, spinning table that was covered with soft carpet and was octagon shaped so it was easy to hold on to. This piece was attached to a base with a disc with steel ball bearings so it could be spun quite fast. Once seated, we would ask the kid to hold up a finger and that is how he would hold onto them to spin them. If they had enough, they could just put their hand down. A kid with Down's Syndrome or Fetal alcohol syndrome would only last a few seconds. But the Autistic kids would just want to keep spinning. While being spun, they could sing all the words to songs and do math problems that were hard to do when just sitting still. Might be something you would like to build for your child.

[@ticcitoasty]

im not sure if you’re saying autistic people can’t get dizzy at all, but incase you are, that is not really the case. what’s happening when autistic people stim through spinning (not everyone does but it is fairly common) is they’re self-regulating. it’s not immediately uncomfortable as it sort of balances out the underestimulation they’re trying to cope with. i’ll compare it to loud music as it’s something i stim with. i’m generally very sensitive to loud noises of all kinds, but in these moments of underestimulation, certain loud sounds such as music are very fulfilling. on the other hand, allistic people would usually find it uncomfortable. even weirder, if im not understimulated and/or the loud noise/music is not mine or expected, it “hurts” more to me than allistic and some other autistic ppl around me. massive rant ik but just interesting to think about

[@warriormamma8098]

Not ALL ppl on the spectrum love spinning to stim. I have a good 16 yr old ASD and ADHD and she is more into pacing around dining table or when little riding a trike around it.

[@elizathory287]

As a 33 year old autistic woman I would say that’s not true. Every autistic child/adult are unique in their own way and we all work very differently. I find it rather annoying when people put us all in one cup. We see the entire world in a different way compared to non autistic people, aswell as every object and human being. I myself am absolutely crazy in touching everything. I need to know how everything I see feels like. If it feels different compared to something else then I instantly need to read about the material that item are made of. We all have our thing in our way and we all feel different within doing things. We all unique.

[@theresaakins2317]

@@ticcitoasty I'm still learning about autism and what does "stim" and "STEM" mean?

[@theresaakins2317]

@@ticcitoasty are you autistic? If so, you are very self-aware which alot of autistic and others with brain challenges are not.

[@hannibanani13]

They are called stims, but so glad you are so attentive to his behavior! We need more mothers like this 💗

[@Sometimes_i_eat_rocks]

@@ewankerley4840 she actually said stems in the video :)

[@maryblakley3590]

I don't think she writes the captions, it's just how KZbin hears it.

[@laura121684]

@@Sometimes_i_eat_rocks It does sound like "stems."

[@NightmareAwoken]

She did pronounce it as "stems"

[@DefcomBrown]

She is def saying ‘stem’ and the word needed is ‘stim’. Not a big deal but it did make me quickly Google if there was a British / American difference but there isn’t.

[@w.i.t.c.h.1330]

Just an FYI it's Stim , not stem. Stim is short for stimulate ! He loves his jolly jumper ❤️❤️❤️

[@deef.l.6847]

Thank you! I was seriously looking for this comment! For those that don't know what stims are, it's short for stimulating. It helps regulate themselves.

[@billiejeanbaccus159]

Ok so what you knew what she meant.🤷🏽

[@cassandratimm]

Thank you

[@torinong8417]

It’s clearly not an accent. She pronounces the /i/ in ‘spin’ just fine but pronounced ‘stim’ as ‘stem’ - and while we might have understood what she was saying it’s important to get the terminology correct.

[@justathought88]

Thank you for clarifying. I had no idea what "stem" was! Tbh, I wouldn't have known what "stim" is either. So your explanation helped.

[@fable8335]

I was the exact same as a kid. Super bouncy and spinny. My parents ignored the signs, and would just make me stand still in a square and make eye contact. It's nice to see parents encouraging their autistic kids :)

[@TziporaRaphaella]

Just curious because I was also a spinny, bouncy kid (and honestly still have my moments as a mid-30s adult lol). But we’re you also into hanging upside down? I used to even read books like dangled off my bed because I just loved that feeling of blood rushing to my head. I’m certain it’s a rather similar sensation, or a means of extreme physical sensation seeking that’s a lot like spinning. For that matter, I wonder how many of us who grew up with these particular stims are the sorts to be hypo sensitive to pain and rather unaware of our bodies? Like the way we’re wired, it took that more intense physical input to help us feel our own bodies. And agree. I love seeing encouraging parents. I also got lots of criticism and shame for my stims growing up. And had a bit of a laugh at all the put him in dance class comments. Everyone told my parents the same thing. And eh I guess dancing all over the place was more socially acceptable and in some ways I’m grateful for that. But also, just let autistic kids be themselves. I’m a bit of two minds on the dance or figure skating thing since it feels like masking in many respects but can also be a positive way to channel that energy and need to move.

[@johanneabelsen1644]

Spinny.🥰

[@Isabella404]

@@TziporaRaphaella same with me! I still love to spin, I spin whenever I can! And just like you I hand upside down whenever I can, I’m always looking for things to hang off! I get that same feeling that you were describing and I would do anything while hanging upside down as long as I was hanging upside down I felt happy

[@Nezumi_Yasu]

I like walking in circles when I'm hoted😢

[@yttriumm]

​@@TziporaRaphaella in the type of person to spin in circles and hang upside down, but at the same time im hypersensitive

[@alienatedd]

30 yo autistic woman here. And I still love spinning!!! Nice to see a parent that embraces it rather than shame it. I was scolded so much that all my stims turned harmful, holding my breath, tensing all my muscles including my jaw - constantly, biting my lips, inside my mouth at my cheeks and picking the skin off my fingers because my healthy stims - like spinning were ridiculed. Stimming needs room and acceptance, so it’s nice to see this. I hope more children can grow up embracing their stims instead of being shamed and forced to turn to things that self-harm because they’re “discrete” and “acceptable” Keep on spinning 💛🥰

[@kritzelklotz198]

Well, I don't want a child like that next to me in the restaurant if I really want to eat in peace. But let me guess, you would also let your child jump over all the tables because they have to be "busy" and "live it out". People like you and your children are the worst.

[@SpeakUrMindShareUrWords]

I can see him in the Olympics as a figure skater doing incredible spins that last much longer than anyone else!!! Our internal gyroscope aka semicircular canals in our ears are responsible for maintaining our balance. Any change in the levels of the fluid filled tubes causes dizziness, nausea, vomiting, etc. I’m glad you found something that he really enjoys n you’re able to keep him safe. It’s a great activity to really meet his needs!! Good job, Mom!!💐

[@debrashort2265]

I love this! He is adorable! Just a heads up, though: it's "stim", not "stem".

[@TheNameDragon]

Yeah-he’s not in a STEM school yet

[@Lili-ey1nd]

It’s the captions

[@keystone9920]

​@@Lili-ey1nd the narrator is clearly pronouncing it "stem" as well and I believe these are manually typed captions

[@jl63023]

​@@keystone9920 Yk accents exist?

[@chezsrandombs]

​@@jl63023 She doesn't have it when pronouncing every other word that has a soft i

[@PartyOf8Please]

Bless his heart - I’m dizzy just watching the boy! Thank you for being such a great Mom to Sawyer and your other children!

[@ellenh5060]

Gosh, please give him some ballet shoes or ice skates or roller skates. He has some potential and a rare talent with the right guidance.

[@lollipoplolly3925]

It's not a talent it's a disability,. 😂

[@Serene80]

Seeing STEM in the captions several times nearly killed me...

[@LumpyBumpylou]

We have established that its stim... It nearly killed you? Why so dramatic?

[@skunkpigeon]

​@@LumpyBumpylou they are just voicing their thoughts. No harm is done by it.

[@strawberrycosmonaut7387]

@kimxiggores2158 you probably think people's asses actually fall off when they type lmao 🤣

[@SandreyTooniez]

​@@LumpyBumpylou man forgot people are allowed to correct others

[@Yoodledoodle]

@@SandreyTooniez man forgot there’s multiple ways you can correct someone. Man forgot he’s correcting someone for correcting someone else for correcting someone else. The hypocrisy

[@ch33sych3s]

I have autism as well, and I am almost 18 years old and I also enjoyed spinning (and also rocking!) To see this is absolutely adorable and It brings me joy to see him so happy.

[@karensandler7526]

Put him in ballet class, seriously!! He would love it 😍

[@ashleighrose8115]

He's got autism and ADHD not saying he couldn't learn but it's very difficult for someone with those two things to take directed classes.... It's one thing to spin in your living room it's another to have to sit still and follow directions.

[@emmaabbott8227]

@@ashleighrose8115 well I see an awesome dancer and a very inspiring story

[@elisa4822]

No

[@Ali_D_Katt]

​@@ashleighrose8115 He is very young but his classmates will be as well, none of them at that age want to sit still. I think if they looked around for the right class with the right teacher and let the teacher know the situation he could participate. It looks like he has siblings, maybe see if one of them would want to do it with him. If group classes are too overwhelming there's always private lessons. I don't think it's fair to rule out an activity solely based on his disability. They'll never know what his limits are if they never allow him to challenge them and just assume he can't do it. I taught swimming lessons for years and had lots of special needs kiddos. Accommodations can be made and with open, consistent communication between parents(or guardians) and instructors a lot can be accomplished.

[@bagchifamily6860]

@@elisa4822 why?

[@rexix]

as another person with audhd, i spin too haha!! i didn’t get diagnosed until i was about 14, so i thought it was normal to like the feeling of being dizzy hahaha. edit: also, they’re stims, not stems :)

[@audreydoyle5268]

Rolling down the Scillion in Australia was one of the best dizzy moments of my life, next to my uncle spinning me super fast on a spin pole. It's a great feeling

[@hazelsolaria]

Wait is that actually a symptom of autism? Because I have diagnosed adhd, plus autism runs in my family, and I used to spin all the time as a kid because I liked the feeling Ps I’m not trying to self diagnose I’d just like to learn a bit more about this sorry if it seems like I am

[@bootyandthebeast8365]

@@hazelsolaria just so you know, self dx (with proper research and thorough education) is widely accepted in the autistic community because of the IMMENSE lack of resources and barriers in obtaining a diagnosis, especially if you are not a child. I am not going to explain every single barrier in obtaining an autism diagnosis, but if you do some quick research you will understand. In regards to any of your possible autism traits, I'd honestly just say if autism runs in your family it's worth getting tested if you're able? Most of the time when it is that prevalent in a family it doesn't seem to miss people much (not saying scientifically speaking, just from my personal experience.) But to actually answer your question, I'm not the original person you asked, but spinning could be considered a trait of autism if it is a regular stim for you. The difference between regular things that any person would do versus autistic traits is usually frequency and intensity. If you like to spin on thr occasion, you're probably just fine, but if it is something you like to do very frequently, or even if you just enjoy it much more intensely than other people, then that would be an indicator. This can apply to any trait as I said; you shouldn't self diagnose yourself based on something you occasionally experience, but if you do research and find that you have many autistic traits that impact your life significantly then it's worth looking into. It's important to understand that even if you have one autistic trait that significantly impacts you, that alone isn't an indicator of autism. For example I have severe sensory issues surrounding the textures of food that make it hard for me to maintain a healthy diet. I have other autistic traits as well; but if my sensory issues were the ONLY trait I have, I'd be more likely to have something like ARFID or sensory processing disorder than autism. Sorry for the long comment, it's past 4 am where I am and I am not good at being concise. But I hope my comment is helpfil

[@IGotEatenByTheAutismCreature]

I also love spinning lmao. I just get dizzy easily 😢 good thing is that in June I'll finally figure out if I have adhd and autism :D

[@rexix]

@@hazelsolaria it is, yeah! especially if it runs in your family, i’d recommend tryna get an assessment if you’re able!! also, as someone replied, it’s okay to say you might have it- i wouldn’t really consider it self diagnosing :)

[@TheQueenOfDreams]

One of our daughters has autism, and she spun herself silly as a toddler, too, so we put her in dance classes. We didn’t know then what it was, we just knew she was different, and that she liked to spin! Around age 4, she graduated from spinning to what we called pogo jumping, and hand flapping, and other stims like compulsive lip licking, and though she grew tired of dance by age 7, she has always walked only on her tippy toes. She’s developed other, more subtle stims now that she’s 26, but they are still there. It’s nice that there are resources like this available now to help parents recognize it early. Ours wasn’t diagnosed until age seven, when the pediatrician noticed that she would not make eye contact with anyone, and absolutely recoiled when anyone touched her, other than me or her daddy. There are a lot of subtle but telltale signs when you know what to look for.

[@Lindatiger71]

Was it after the MMS vaccine that she began spinning?

[@misselle1430]

​@@TheQueenOfDreamsI've read about this 18 month vaccination trigger for the spectrum theory. And am so scared to get my kid this particular vaccine tbh. 😢

[@misselle1430]

@@TheQueenOfDreams ty so much for this. The vaccine seems to be a trigger. Did you go at exactly 18 months ?? It seems that if you wait till theyre older its better for their little bodies. However these issues also seem to be mostly in the 1st world countries only just like the Sids and allergies. Until I migrated to a 1st world country I hadn't even heard of these things let alone even know a handful of people with these things happening to them. And we alllll took vaccines as well. So it's all something to think about which doesn't make sense.

[@TheQueenOfDreams]

@@misselle1430 yes, we adhered to the required schedule perfectly. We went at 2 weeks, 4 weeks, 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, 12 months, and 18 months with our second child, and her reaction that time was immediately apparent. She cried for two days and had a fever, that we treated with Tylenol and tepid baths, but by the time the fever broke and she stopped crying, she was no longer speaking. When she started spinning and hand flapping, we thought it was part of her every expanding non-verbal vocabulary. She did start speaking again in her third year, and is very bright in many ways, very gifted musically and artistically, but she has a lot of difficulties and lacks a lot of what people would call common sense and (ironically) understanding non-verbal language cues. She still stims, still walks on her tippy toes, and has a lot of issues with external stimuli (noise, lighting, textures in food and clothes, etc.) They’ve changed the way these things are labeled, but her original diagnosis was Asperger’s Syndrome with Sensory Integration Disorder. Now they just say she’s on the Autism Spectrum.

[@TheQueenOfDreams]

@@misselle1430 to make an interesting point about SIDS, they reported last year that parents were not going to well baby check ups for vaccines during the lockdowns, and while infant vaccinations drastically declined, so did the incident of SIDS. Meanwhile, adults were quick to get the new mRNA “vaccine” as we started seeing a new phenomena called “Sudden Adult Death Syndrome.” It doesn’t take a genius to observe the truth and connect the dots. And in regard to allergies, they are in fact an auto-immune disorder, one of many links to vaccinosis. If you can get your hands on the vaccine inserts from a pharmacy or doctor’s office, I’d start there. A lot of these reactions are documented in those forms, but most parents never read them!

[@marikon3]

The intensity of his spinning is just amazing!! 😮

[@c0m3tt__]

sawyer is such a wholesome little bean. bless this childs heart. hes so cute.

[@HMMC101]

Don’t ever let him give that up! Stimming is great for us to get all of that excess energy out. I’ve had to retrain myself (from masking it so much and not even realizing) to accept that is is *good* to stem and to not hold it in. It only leads to meltdowns, shutdowns, and dysregulation. As long as he is safe, spin away sweet boy!! ❤ He’s precious!!

[@TheMazinoz]

Human equivalent of zoomies?

[@emilIzer11]

​@@TheMazinozI guess? But that feels like a very degrading way of putting it.

[@dawnvega383]

Isn’t it stim, short for stimulating? Curious!❤

[@icasuallyexist]

I’m autistic, she probably mispoke*, because you are correct, it’s stim

[@1RandomMiss]

Yes it’s stim or stimming.

[@stardustgirl2904]

I don't understand why parents feel the need to jump on the Autism band wagon, it does so MUCH HARM, to LABEL your children just because some so called Doctor decided to say you're child has Autism ❗🚩 My sister in law, let me and my hubby go to the beach 🏖️ she said her boy's would absolutely hate the beach because the both have Autism ❗🚩🚩 🏖️🏖️🏖️🤔💜💜We didn't treat the boys like they had something wrong with them, we let them be two brothers playing on the beach 🏖️ and they actually Loved💜💜💜💜 the beauty of the beach and the sand, they had a great time because we didn't label them all day long like their controlling Mother! Let KIDS be kid's, don't limit their potential ❗❗❗❗🙏🏻🕊️💜

[@stardustgirl2904]

​@@icasuallyexist I don't think kids should be labeled, I don't think 🤔💭 people should limit their potential ❗ Why would anyone be in such a hurry to limit their children and label them! I don't think people realize how harmful all of this labeling is ❗🤔💭

[@icasuallyexist]

@@stardustgirl2904 it’s not a label it’s a medical diagnosis. It’s a fact, I’m autistic, which really just means that my brain quite literally just works differently than allistic folk. It’s important for children to receive autism diagnosis young because often times if an autistic person don’t get it, leads to problems flourishing in their environment and can lead to something known as autistic burnout which leads to a blatant inability to function and it often times leads to autistic people ending their own lives. Autism awareness is important and it’s critical that if you suspect your child to be autistic you see a specialist because without a support system, it’s very hard to live with such a hard disability. In this case labeling can be a life saver . I went undiagnosed until I was 17, and it has had massive negative impacts on me and my mental health and I still don’t get the support I need because autism is so stigmatized in my community.

[@averizimmermann4387]

This was me. My family thought I was so weird, all I wanted to do was use my sit n spin or go on a tire swing, or spin around our apartment. I still love it 22 years later. It’s SO satisfying and fun.

[@natividadnazario1381]

We are all different different passions On our souls the from there We run out life's with the help of Our parents teaches how to navigate on a safe envuelves. Is fun Learn the meaning of Modification that is a rehabilitation Term Modify transfer from bed to chair With a peace of wood.

[@izzie2312]

glad he's in a family that actually allows him to do what he loves to do!

[@ch3ck_mat3]

Awe, he's so cute. He could definitely be a roller skater or an ice skater with this spinning talent of his, plus I'm sure it'd make him very happy too.

[@tinachandler3091]

There’s a little circular hammock you can hang from a support like the jump up. It’ll help him with the stimulation he needs. I have 2 autistic/ADHD children and finding ways to help, especially when they’ve gone ballistic, has been challenging. It took 7 years and 4 years respectively to get diagnosed

[@patriciabaxter6923]

Thanks for sharing...up date on teenager with Autism

[@marsfeathers]

I love spinning so much too!!! I'm also autistic and ADHD, 22 now but I only found out about the autism at 18. Im the youngest of 4 and my mom is a psychologist so idk how she didn't see the signs, I was DEFINITELY a spinner as a kid. I get so much joy seeing your kids so unrepentantly happy and themselves, it's so much work but the way you and your husband support them is obvious in every smile!!

[@meowmeowmeow300]

same i am autistic too & i adore spinning!! it's so fun, tbh for me it has the same vestibular relief as deep pressure

[@PanRiddle1]

About your mom not recognizing the signs, in my country we have a saying that goes 'the cobbler's (shoemaker) children have the worst shoes', meaning that the shoemakers do a great job for customers/strangers, but they overlook the people closest to them, like their own family because they have no 'distance' to them. Kinda like another saying: 'not being able to see the forest through all the trees'😅 does that make sense in english?

[@servraghgiorsal7382]

Your Mom is the Queen of Denial.if she's that dysfunctional she can't see it, I feel SORRY for her paying clients

[@servraghgiorsal7382]

​@@PanRiddle1 absolutely. I'm not sure but. I THINK Denmark and Sweden have government supported group cottages so similarly challenged person are not bullied and victimized by people.

[@mama2pokemon]

I'm also an autistic person, with autistic kids, and a degree in psychology (class of 1998). They did not teach us about autism back then. That's likely why your mom missed it. Sure, it was mentioned in passing, but they only brought up the most severe cases. I too missed my kids' and my own autism until many years later, when it became more well known.

[@solala1312]

get him into ice-skating once he is old enough. there you can spin a lot and even be faster.

[@thatdo0d]

@@Michaelyay34 I have both adhd and autism and started ice skating when I was 5-6, that said it requires a lot of patience and perseverance from parents as well as making it into something casual with little to no pressure etc, and I enjoyed ice skating which probably played quite a big role too, however it’s not impossible or anything haha

[@charlie2.048]

​@@Michaelyay34 That's the age that most rinks start taking students.

[@solala1312]

@@Michaelyay34 I used to do ice skating (the speeding one) when I was younger through a school program. figure skating starts ages 4 and up. so if the child is capable to arrive properly clothed then it should be fine for the first couple sessions. the rest you will learn with time anyway;

[@sam-ib6lk]

@@Michaelyay34 that's you tho, not everyone with autism/adhd are the same. You cant dictate what will or will not work for someone just cuz you cant

[@KatieM786]

​@@sam-ib6lk💯

[@ice12984]

I love things like hammocks and those spinny bird chairs and swings. I honestly wish I tried that spinny thing when I was younger.

[@literallyegg1820]

He woke up and chose beyblade and I commend him for his great act.

[@jbgra2566]

Lmao 😂😂😂

[@Trippinfallin]

Future ballet dancer to figure skater 😮

[@capy4765]

@@Michaelyay34 whats u getting so mad for? they are just saying that bc figure skaters spin alot its really not that big of a deal, no one is tracking him down and forcing him to figure skate

[@elisa4822]

Eh

[@davidwilcock4313]

@@Michaelyay34 you’re dramatic

[@Ebunoluwa13]

​@@Michaelyay34 Did you achieve the ebarassment you were looking for yet?🙄

[@wonderful5861]

​@@Michaelyay34 Yeah he is like 4, is not like he is gonna watch this video, let alone read the comments

[@elliesIsland]

Me personally I have been diagnosed with adhd and I autism spectrum disorder and I am an extreme tiptoe walker. Tell him to never stop being him x

[@heather355]

Get him a spinner when he's older!! It's a piece of materiel (wood or plastic) that is curved slightly and Spins under your foot due to that slight curve. Figure and artistic skaters use them for one footed spins when off-skates. Highly recommend for a 10th birthday or something!! Waiting to get mine too! Sending love

[@WhyAreYouHere.]

I would fall. PURE TALENT

[@TorisTerrorTime]

I wish I got diagnosed sooner. I was diagnosed with ADHD towards the end of 5th grade [although I showed obvious signs but I won’t rant about that right now] and I just got my autism confirmed last month. I’m glad people are finally starting to accommodate neurodivergents! 🧡

[@nikaylamordue488]

Take him to ballet lessons, he'd probably love it. ps he is so adorable

[@courtnrysalamone7677]

I loved spinning and sitting upside down. I still do, especially if I'm at a playground, I'm a full adult and I'll still put my chest in the seat of the swing, spin it as far as it'll go and lift up my legs and let it swing all the way back in a circle. That shit is unmatched

[@shadowkyber2510]

How do you sit upside down? I've always be scared of being upside down, even as a kid I was worried I'd snap my neck

[@courtnrysalamone7677]

@@shadowkyber2510 I used to do headstands for a long time as a kid but for safety purposes I don't anymore, but sitting upside down, I would put my legs on the part of the chair your back goes on and my back on the part of the chair your but goes on and let my head dangle off of it towards the floor

[@johanna5688]

I know a boy, when he was 2, he used to lie on the sofa and twirl around. He was always jumping about. He was diagnosed as having ADHD, not autistic.

[@luns486]

You need to get this boy into a ballet class.

[@natividadnazario1381]

Gymnastics

[@desertrose3511]

@@natividadnazario1381 he’d hate that, as a boy you don’t turn or spin in gymnastics. You do in ballet

[@_Yombo]

Or you know... ice skating...

[@steampunkemo9211]

Get that kid into ballet or figure skating, for some reason he looks so majestic and balanced on his feet

[@hereforthechaos7614]

As an autiszic person myself, spinning does feel really nice, even as an adult.

[@SweetOnyx]

Same

[@ashleighrose8115]

Dang he's fast! Idk how he doesn't get dizzy id probably get sick spinning like that lol. But hey whatever brings you comfort and makes you happy baby, you spin to your little hearts desire! ❤😊

[@Kimber2011]

I'm an adult woman who only recently figured out I might be autistic. I have lots of indicators but one is how I stim using spinning!! When I was little I had a Sit n' Spin and I used that thing waaay past the weight limit/it's expiration date lol. Then I used to spin in office chairs. At home and even at work when I got older. If I do it juuuust right there a euphoric feeling that shoots though my brain, it's really hard to explain

[@misterl100]

This boy is learning some Spinjitzu, If he watches Ninjago later in life he'd be yelling "Ninja...Go!" all day.

[@tresdj]

I did this soo much as a kid, as well as sitting on my knees and shaking my head wildly til I felt dizzy.... often, I loved to spin and quickly lay down 😅

[@JustLetMePerfectIt]

SAME

[@RetroMonkey1999]

Same

[@samanthaboutan8109]

1000% relate. I’m a college student and still spin like crazy whenever I get the privacy lol

[@ace_____XE]

I have a feeling he’s going too love the teacups ride.

[@HunnyBudders]

My brother would do that too when he was younger, though bigger circles instead of just in one spot. After a while of his physical therapy appointments, he traded the spinning for repeating himself and later movie quotes. He still can recite movies word for word and is now 27.

[@TVFreak624143]

My grandmother was deaf and my sign name was just my initial spinning in circles 😂 Diagnosed with ADHD and Autism as an adult.

[@King_Cheshire]

I have autism too, and I love spinning!💖

[@juhuna3296]

He is so adorable I couldnt stop smiling

[@firefliesinajar_]

ugh i wish my mom noticed all this stuff as a fellow autism + adhd kid even though i'm professionally diagnosed with both of them, she still won't take a step back and realize that i'm actually autistic you're a great parent

[@Dbb27]

As long as you recognize it and understand your coping mechanisms. There’s such wonderful online information now as well if you don’t have any resources. Good luck to you!

[@firefliesinajar_]

@Mp-wc2ch i personally don’t believe in or desire medicine of any kind for autism, but thank you for the thought

[@cookiescott2165]

He's so cute. Not everyone can spin. If he's happy then let him.❤

[@lisamoore6335]

If anyone's interested, I would say this is less a stim, or stimming pattern of behaviour, and possibly more to do with seeking proprioception which is another hidden sense that humans/animals have. Proprioception is about being aware of where our bodies and limbs are in space. People with autism can sometime have reduced proprioception and so they need more input to get the same experience, hence the spinning. Spinning puts us a bit out of balance and makes us tune into where our bodies/limbs are more. It's great that he gets that input to develop his senses but just be careful that it doesn't make him too hyper around bedtime or just before he needs to sit still, like for car journeys etc. You could try getting him to rock gentle back and forth/side to side or push against a wall with his hands or feet to get the same input and awareness of where his body is at those times when spinning isn't appropriate. Hope some of this info in interesting to people and might help people with autism! Btw I'm an occupational therapist student currently doing a placement in a children's setting so definitely not an expect on this and people should do their own research but this is just information I've learned 😊

[@crestfallensunbro6001]

just a point of curiosity, but wouldnt that count as stiming because it would be "stimulating" the sence of proprioception that you mentioned

[@lisamoore6335]

@@crestfallensunbro6001 so as I've said, I am by no expert but the way that it's been explained to me is that yes, while stiming is to get stimmulation, it's more for comfort or relaxation than sensory input. That's why people with autism who stim tend to do so when they are anxious or irritated. When people with autism have "meltdowns", really what they are experiencing is strong negative feelings, usually unease, irritation or unhappyness, and stimming helps regulate these emotions and self sooth. Put simply, it's lowering their emotions by focusing on one repetitive action.. Seeking proprioception input is done to heighten the senses and tends to increase feelings or emotions. Hope that makes sense, I find the topic really interesting so love this discussion!

[@LoveAlways1002]

I'm a Social Worker and one of the Teen parents I work with, her son has autism, he looooooves to spin!!!! At 35 it makes me super dizzy but I always try to pick him up and hug him while spinning him when I see him once a week, as a greeting ❤❤❤❤❤

[@justaguymaybe]

As an autistic ADHD figure skater, I second the figure skating. It's spinning and structure, and super healthy- With friends and fun. ❤️ We have an excellent Learn to Skate coaching network spread wide across the United States. FAST spinning!

[@natalielawrence8809]

This is one of the most beautiful and impressive things I've ever seen. What a truly gifted child. Well done, Mummy 🙏

[@king_of_nothing1808]

I have autism and adhd too, I'm 18 and still enjoy swinging around too. I also enjoy rocking myself (when around close friends, just a stim) and making strange noises. Please keep him safe, this world is horrible

[@timekeeper88]

Sawyer is amazing! What a cool talent!!

[@bunnnniii6321]

my first stims was toe walking and spinning. interesting to see how good he’s gotten at it lol

[@SirPhrogie]

As someone who has autism myself, this was both relatable and wholesome

[@rainin4184]

So I used to do this to a degree, does this mean…

[@emilIzer11]

​@@rainin4184No.

[@janettesweet6087]

Past life. Ballet dancer, figure skater. Kids relive their past lives often with amazing behaviors.

[@Elzie-Nou]

It’s also quite a common thing in children without autism. I remember Myself and my friend talking about how we used to do that as kids

[@TheMazinoz]

I loved the playground roundabout!

[@izthistle6196]

Spinning is just fun in general. More people should be doing that more often

[@kevintanner5307]

I wish you a wonderful life I wish the best for you God bless

[@xxiv8841]

That kid is gonna be the best snowboarder alive

[@CourtPari93]

He’s been training to be an ice skater since birth 😂

[@e.1766]

Looks like a future professional dancer or ice skater; I can just imagine the spins he could do!

[@baileygranger7956]

It's called stim, not stem. But spinning is a very good stim as it's about the space and how their body moves in it

[@Scruffy32]

The origin story of the greatest figure skater to exist right here folks

[@blandcoffeeamv4107]

Definitely something sportive where he could do that would not only be fun but rewarding as well. I wasnt even thinking of figure skating but dancing. There are so many creative ways where he can actually use that skill. ❤

[@paulamartinas7503]

You are some amazing parents, first to recongnize the signs, then to comfort and support your son ❤

[@gailasprey7787]

Your child is a little fidget spinner and he knows it. 😂 Bless him!

[@unicornhypnotist]

Those spins are so graceful!❤

[@ciaranhickey563]

Damn, Sawyer can ✨spin✨

[@miyavialva7157]

Your son is adorable😭

[@LatinaCreamQueen]

As an autistic adult, thank you for letting him stim freely. You have no idea how liberating it is for us. You guys rock.

[@6ftwalka783]

I see a Professional Ice Skater!! ❤

[@jamsanger]

It's a 'stim' - short for self stimulation.

[@s.0.d.a.]

Honestly spinning was my all time favourite stim, still is, and always will be. Let your inner crash bandicoot out!

[@madds.lifestyle]

as a figure skater he would demolish a scratch spin, get that kid in some skates and lessons

[@liaderose3760]

It's also called a 'Johnny Jump Up'.... I am impressed by how fast he spins....in one spot, too! Maybe dance class would help him? Much love all! 💜💕

[@bouchratj3963]

look at his feet!! This is an upcoming talent in ballet or skating

[@Supersnipergirl1]

That boy would make a prima ballerina ❤

[@dancedivaforchrist]

This makes me nauseated just watching. But I am glad he has a relatively safe stim that meets his sensory need!

[@lexi_2021]

He is doing it with great balance. It's amazing. Thank you for this video. It helped me differenciate between typical toddler spinning and atypical spinning. Thank you for uploading.

[@saragog]

My daughter is the same, we let her do it because it really does help her and she doesn't get dizzy, she also likes to hold something and spin looking at it from the corner of her eye.

[@shiningwhitelight9710]

He's a little whirling dervish ❤

[@leighstevens1075]

For my grandson its jumping. Took him to an outdoor play centre with sooooo mcuh to do. He spent the entire 4 hours jumping on a giant bubble. Need an hours break...point him toward the trampoline. He is an absolute blessing❤

[@leighstevens1075]

@yuqinglee7583 Thats good to hear. Its hard work, that people dont often understand but I have found once you can recognise some of the triggers, you can divert his attention and avoid melt downs. Finding ways to allow them to focus, be it colourin, climbing or jumping to the moon and back...every day comes down to whatever qorks in the moment

[@Markovets]

This might sound silly, but please don’t force him to stop- I was like this and when I was forced to stop for 3 years (three years no spinning whatsoever after spinning everyday) I become dizzy very easily compared to rarely dizzy while regularly spinning 👍

[@Poppy-xm9zx]

Sorry I'm so late replying to this) Anyways. When I was around 10 I started stimming, however I showed signs way earlier. My parents always told me to stop. My stim is flapping hands or "happy arms" as people call them. It started happening a little, and progressively got worse. It it quite aggressive now, but in year 7 I had a teacher who had ADHD. I had a fidget toy, and when I stimmed because I stimmed so aggressively, the fidget toy would slap onto my hands and cut me. That teacher helped me so much, he always tried to help me "control" and distracted myself. He bought me fidgets every week and was such a legend. I still stim now, it's still aggressive. But I'm working on it, I do have wrist problems from it. But it helps me self regulate so I think its alright. ❤

[@Alli.yassssssss]

My guy turned into a helicopter 💀

[@CHEEEEEEEEEEJ]

Nah bro is Britney spears

[@I_am_not_stable_]

I pace a lot because I have autism and ADHD as well and I stim and spin Friend at party: okay everyone time for a announcement Everyone else: *sits down* Me: *starts pacing an spinning for no reason*

[@daisymelville1002]

Get that kid into ballet! The control is incredible

[@Mossy_Rock]

Spinning is still one of my favorite STIMS.

[@BotchuLeeSim]

I have autism and adhd too. Your kid looks like an angel

[@beeboy509]

you guys say get him in dance or skating but stimming is to regulate the body there's no need to see every kid with a spinning stim and say put them into a class, that could take away the helpful part of stimming

[@consume_arsenic]

thank you!! stimming is for regulation, it's not a hobby.

[@Iluvhorses122]

I saw your daughter CRMO video. Have you ever tested her for lymes? I know you live in NY where it is very common. The two conditions are similar

[@foofookachoo1136]

They live in Colorado now. I think they have there for 2 and a half years now. But yes, prior to Colorado, they lived in upstate New York. Lovely family!! Parents are great!!