FIRST THINGS FIRST | He is being disrespected! - Nick rips Joe Schoen for disrespecting Mahomes

FIRST THINGS FIRST | He is being disrespected! - Nick rips Joe Schoen for disrespecting Mahomes

[@BoxChildFilms]

lol Joe Schoen tricked the Giants into thinking he was a GM

[@reneewilliams5777]

They thought he would be a good GM because he worked under Brandon Beane when he rebuilt the Bills from irrelevance to yearly playoff contender. Clearly he didn't learn much from Beane. I thought he'd be a good GM too. Honestly surprised

[@BoxChildFilms]

@@reneewilliams5777 Joei s a great AGM and Daboll is a great OC

[@Que____G]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheCephalon]

Didn’t burrow make a Super Bowl getting sacked like 8 times a game. I don’t want to hear it

[@brycehoward4139]

lol yea they beat my titans Becuase Tannehill forgot what team he played for

[@justadude1065]

@@brycehoward4139defense played a hell of a game but it’s a known fact still coming out victorious with those number of sacks and pressures is unheard of literally. It was an NFL record. Burrow still threw for I believe 300+ yards and made some clutch plays.

[@johng9675]

​@@brycehoward4139by the logic mahomes got lucky vs the the ravens and 9ers last year then

[@vktor5730]

Burrow also had Chase, Higgins, Mixon to throw and give the ball to, so not even close to the same situation that Daniel Jones had with practice squad receivers. Also, the Giants OL BROKE A SACKING RECORD last season.

[@sapasui]

Jones holds on to the ball too long.😊

[@martinwalker4320]

We glossing over the fact that Tommy Devito looked decent in some games behind that same o-line or nah??

[@vktor5730]

It was not the same oline, they change linemen throughout the season, plus the teams were easier later in the season. Y’all just be saying shit.

[@hinata365247]

Thank you! That's all that needs to be said. Giant fans were rooting for Tommy more than jones😂

[@hinata365247]

​@@vktor5730why didn't they do that for jones? They did have a good o-line. Daniel jones just ain't it.

[@Y2K2PointO]

It’s totally true. Mahomes looked like trash when his OLine got hurt before the Super Bowl. NOBODY can play behind a terrible O Line

[@margcan]

The old line thing is true, but it wasn't on my homes.Those balls were right in the chest of his receivers.They would have won every game this sheriff.His receivers would have caught the ball.I mean , that's what lost a most games

[@CalebM-Music]

Against one of the greatest d-lines of all time.

[@wizlb]

Mahomes receivers were dropping the ball, he believed in them and they won the Super Bowl

[@robertschoelerman7496]

Mahomes skill is way higher then Daniel Jones skill is that matters

[@thatstheway2429]

@@robertschoelerman7496this is the biggest understatement of all time

[@wizlb]

Schoen paid someone $160 million.. because they won one playoff game..

[@sisilotau2185]

How many playoff games did Trevor Lawrence win? How much did he get paid? With the recent contracts the DJ contract looks like pretty good value ecspecially since it has an early out if he can’t finally figure it out this year

[@CheeseWheelEnthusiast]

​@@sisilotau2185Same with Kirk Cousins. How can people have issues with Danny Dimes for getting a bag after winning a playoff game while people like T. Law and Kirk Cousins are out there doing the exact same shit. Make it make sense lmao.

[@bradleyhoward9638]

Pat was down starting RT in week 5 of 2020, starting LG, RG, and backup swing tackle were already out before then. The Chiefs lost 1 game before the SB and played nearly all backups vast majority of the season. The wheels fell off when the LT went down at end of afc championship game. Even then Mahomes made great plays under duress all game in the SB, but the receivers dropped them.

[@daking2855]

i swear analyst just love talking and love pushing personal agendas. The giants had either the worst oline or near worst oline in the last 10 years. hell the past szn has proven that the giants oline was 2nd worst of all damn time. Put anyone behind that line your getting the same or worst result.

[@RYANOLDO23]

you have to either have A) bad online but have good weapons and a good offensive coach to help get the ball out quickly. B) good o line but just okay weapons to give them time to get open. you simply can't have a bad oline, no weapons, and just a decent offensive coach.

[@NickWestcoast]

The best WR or TE the Daniel Jones has had is either Kenny Golladay(who promptly is OUT OF THE LEAGUE) or Darren Waller(who’s planned on retiring for 2 years straight). Daniel Jones has had Saquon, a bad Oline, and a bunch of JAGs

[@that_dudemr1286]

I just like to say this…..Giants always been that sneaky ass team that win a ring in every decade since the 80s if they don’t win here pretty soon I def think they will early 2030s

[@jmwasp]

I swear none of these so called experts have ever watched a Giants game…

[@rm1596]

Joe Burrow has Higgins AJ Green and Chase from his rookie year. Purdy lived on the threat of the run game and having a defense to rely on. DJ makes a mistake it's game over. Look at the Vikings game it was a shootout.

[@WayneHouser-i8t]

Completely disagree. Daniel Jones had the worst oline all year period. Give Daniel Jones Travis Kelce, a good defense, decent wide receivers, all of which Mahomes has had every year and see how good Daniel Dimes does. These analysts don't know shit.

[@rohanshah7559]

Tbf Zach Wilson had an equally bad o-line compared to Daniel Jones, but he had Garrett Wilson and Breece Hall. I think if a line is trash enough, it doesn’t matter how good the skill position players are, you won’t be able to function

[@jakkeday1]

⁠@@rohanshah7559 No he did not!!! The Giants O-Line was the 2nd worst in the history of the NFL! Last season, they gave up 20 more sacks than the next worst O-Line!

[@DEVILS_advocate05]

Your right first round exit.

[@outhereq1]

Jones is not good and hasn't been good his entire career.

[@ernestlloyd2134]

Yeah right

[@wizlb]

No one wants to hear the excuses of the Giants

[@arod077]

It is not excuses. They are FACTS. Look at Brady years when he had a bad o line. He did not do good.

[@Packman2397]

In fairness when Mahomes “didn’t have a Oline” they got smacked in the Super Bowl. So no.. no QB can win behind a trash line

[@davionnebrantley6609]

Big ass facts

[@kevinstewart8054]

But they went to the Super Bowl. The Giants have been trash since Jones got there.

[@dreisland6115]

True we had no oline but mahomes still was making plays n putting the ball in the wr hands they just kept dropping first downs and TD’s it could have been a close game if riek, kelce n the rest had hands but it was a bad day

[@pedrobello6049]

​@@kevinstewart8054 they have been trash since before he got there. 400 sacks given up since laat superbowl win!

[@Packman2397]

@@dreisland6115 no I’m not blaming mahomes for the loss but losing by 20+ means as great as he was and is he needed help. Trust me I get it I went through the same thing with Rodgers in the 2010s

[@Electric_Croc]

You don’t need to be a nfl or qb guru to know that daniel jones is not an elite qb that can carry your football team when needed

[@shmeet942]

Crazy blaming DJ and comparing his o line to Burrow and Mahomes when their O line has never been that historically bad

[@greatwhitesufi]

Burrows had a bad O line

[@demonslayer-ds9vo]

@@greatwhitesufiburrow also had way better receivers to throw too

[@justadude1065]

@@demonslayer-ds9vothose WRs are useless if you can’t read the defense mid play or get the ball out to them…what are we talking about here? Burrow would already be a SB champion if it wasn’t for his ass oline and that’s a FACT.

[@sisilotau2185]

@@greatwhitesufitrue but his worst o line was still way better than the Giants lines in recent years and Burrow had top tier receivers. When you have 1 of if not the absolute worst o line and no true number 1 receiver you’re going to struggle on offense, doesn’t matter who you put back there. Obviously Mahomes and Burrow would have done better and no one is arguing against that. The argument is no 1 would have consistent success with that offense regardless of talent. And frankly it’s better to try and get the o line fixed before you go get a new QB because throwing a rookie back there is going to derail their career.

[@williamallen7984]

What the what? I’m a chiefs fan and I’m here to tell you Burrow has yet to play behind even an average O-line. They’ve been trash his whole career lol

[@marceld8961]

I thought San Fran literally had one of the best O-lines in the league lol.

[@berkle]

They have one of the best o lineman but as a whole it's middling

[@marceld8961]

@berkle Oh OK.

[@DanielEusebio-i1n]

To add to what @berkle said, they also help their o-line by running the football.

[@johnnybuchananjr9344]

Best left side I would say

[@KVR-u9q]

DeVito 38 sacks 9 games

[@cenanation123456]

Burrow had a bad O Line, there is a reason why he gets injured

[@wizlb]

Mahomes won the Super Bowl

[@swoldier8516]

Did you listen? He said behind the bad O line… when he went to the SB against Tampa with the bad line, he got destroyed

[@marcusyoung9249]

This is why they haven't won anything!! Let talk facts!!They made eli retire 4 or 5 early than he was supposed to!! Now years later same problem dumpster fire!

[@johnny7600]

It doesn’t take a genius to realize Joe Schoen has absolutely no idea what he’s doing.

[@tigers7834]

He's the GM doesn't he pick the players? That o line was horrible but they also have no real weapons like the Bengals have

[@justadude1065]

Weapons mean NOTHING if you can’t win in the trenches and DJ is no Joe Burrow. We already know Burrow would be a year two SB champion if it wasn’t for his oline.

[@vktor5730]

@@justadude1065So, who’s the Jamarr Chase & Tee Higgins equivalent in the Giants?

[@justadude1065]

@@vktor5730 equivalents don’t matter. Use your brain and understand games are won and lost in the trenches and defense wins championships. There is no saying for elite WR talent and weapons a QB has at their disposal. If your line isn’t winning in the trenches and your QB doesn’t have time to read the field, go through his reads, and deliver a pass on time and accurate…your weapons are rendered useless. Please learn ball and stop playing semantics and making excuses. The most important asset to a QB is the big men up front making sure he stays up right.

[@kevinstewart8054]

@@justadude1065would be huh? Yall just follow blindly even knowing that mahomes is still the man to beat in this league.

[@justadude1065]

@@kevinstewart8054 …considering Burrow beat mahomes to go to the SB and is the only active QB to win against mahomes in the playoffs…yes he would be..if his oline could actually block… do y’all use your brains before you flap your gums or are y’all incapable? What an ignorant statement you made.

[@TheCephalon]

Mahomes got to the superbowl with no offensive line. Forgot the giant’s line, he had no line

[@vktor5730]

The Giants oline is literally bottom of the league every year.

[@Shot007]

what happened to mahomes in that SB without the Line....he got demolished against Bucs

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

@@Shot007That was against a great defensive line as well.

[@davis2k1234]

@@goldenageofdinosaurs71922020 defensive rankings Bucs 8th Chiefs 10th Brady was the best QB in the NFL in 2020 that’s why Bucs won

[@jakkeday1]

That O-Line was the 2nd worst in history! Chris doesn’t have a clue and Nick putting Schoen on the board is absolutely ridiculous. Wildes summed it up perfectly with the Giants - Cowboys game and Mahomes in the Super Bowl.

[@TheCephalon]

Mahomes made a Super Bowl against Brady with no line. Worse than the giants. Worst in history. Giants talking about 3 injuries, mahomes was missing 4 linemen

[@vktor5730]

@@TheCephalonWhere’s that data on that?

[@DwainWilsonJr]

​@@TheCephalon3 OLine actually... and it was due to covid

[@JayNazz94]

I would put andy reid #1, #2 defense, #3 kelce, and #4 mahomes the reason why theyve been winning. Still cant believe they gave the super mvp to anyone other than the defense last year.

[@michaelhurns9269]

Chris Jones would've been a good pick for MVP in the Super Bowl.

[@andrewmbaba7608]

All of those things were there before Mahomes and they won nothing... but sure.

[@caydenantrim2156]

I don’t think Jones is great, but you can’t say he is awful or bad with that trash o line and those WRs. Evan Neal might be the worst tackle in the nfl and the worst I have ever seen.

[@wizlb]

Mahomes won the SB last by beating the bills and ravens on the road and the 49ers in Las Vegas

[@robertschoelerman7496]

Bills 3rd string defense was playing KC facts

[@jamescarter8361]

People still go on about that face mask ball, missed interception stuff (I would like to point out at this point I am NOT a 49er's person), but no one talks about the little yellow flag that is thrown prior for PI, which incidentally must have been against the defence otherwise the face mask catch wouldn't have stood! I am just not sure why people like to use it to knock the kid? And when did we all stop loving the fact that a dude picked last took a team (yes with lots of talent) to the SB? Surely, that gives hope to everyone being picked late that, given the chance they can go on to do great things, isn't that what the American dream is all about? (I am also British so happy to be corrected on that last part). Anyway, rant over.

[@Taj-ex2oo]

Reading the comments I’m glad some of y’all aren’t GM’s. Super bowls are literally Won/Lost based off O-Line/D-Line 😂

[@kevinstewart8054]

And a superior qb. Average qbs don’t win super bowls anymore. Your two outliers are Nick Foles and a washed Peyton manning.

[@JonathanKeys-f3m]

But there offensive line has been bad since Eli was there. Why cant you produce a competent/descent o line, let alone a good one. Daniel Jones is not good behind a bad offensive line. Some quarterbacks can stand in there and make throws and not look at the rush. Burrough doesn't seem to mind getting hit. Hit him, he pops up and throws a dime. Some guys get rattled under pressure.

[@AnthonyLucas-or9lw]

Exactly

[@AlanRiley-s4d]

Lol, the Giants suck so bad that I thought maybe they were to cheap and didn't have a GM. Now that I know Joe is their GM, he is a joke of a GM. I wonder when he will learn how to draft and put a real NFL team on the field? Maybe the next GM will know how to GM so the great Giant fans can be excited about their team again.

[@anthonyspankysmuchwano8907]

Nick wright only grew out his hair so that Patrick mahomes could have something to hold on to 😉

[@seanc6754]

Bruh for fkn real.. God forbid anyone dare open their mouths to say anything about mahomes.. God I hope it the ravens that send the Chiefs home in the playoffs

[@ratio9595]

@@seanc6754why are you so mad about a bit 😂 but Lamar could never beat Mahomes, be fucking fr

[@bfraze9658]

@anthonyspankysmuchwano8907 said the butt-hurt 49ers fan. Man, take the TWO SB L's against Mahomes and move on.

[@bfraze9658]

@@seanc6754 Hope is maybe all you have, Bro. Lamar had the perfect opportunity last year - AT HOME. And he still peed down his leg. When are you going to accept that 15 is inevitable?

[@anthonyspankysmuchwano8907]

@@bfraze9658 it's not Patrick mahomes that I have the problem with its Nick Wright.. maybe if you would read the comment and not go buy your own lust for Patrick mahomes

[@deebrown9263]

Well the Texans had one of the worse o lines ever with Deshaun Watson n put up stats

[@jeremy95ize]

He also had D hop

[@marcusyoung9249]

Let's not forget they didn't pay Barkley who was their whole offense!! But traded for a defensive players and made him the highest paid tragic!!

[@DJJessie37]

Bears aren’t going to be as good as anyone thinks cause they all think they’re going to the playoffs.

[@Theearsamala]

Daniel jones never had an offensive line and never had an all pro receivers

[@miamimercenary9623]

What player has ever said nah I don’t think we can win?? Everybody says this year is their year. Such a stupid question

[@JonathanKeys-f3m]

I really hate that every time they talk about the Giants it's so bad. Why are we so trash?

[@jeromemaida4933]

Yeah, Mahomes almost never gets sacked because the refs legalize holding when he plays.

[@YourFocusYourReality]

Is Daniel Jones still in the NFL? I guess I lost that bet.

[@MAURICIOGUILLERMOGARZA]

I love how everyone in the comments is so positive and supportive!

[@shaquilleking904]

Daniel Jones is getting more grace than Lamar Jackson

[@Really-ej8jt]

Umm....nobody thought Mahomes played well against Tampa.

[@Really-ej8jt]

@@siilucoo so? He got his team there, so did Purdy. The point is that a trash offensive line doesn't do any qb any favors. David Carr was sacked so many times that the guy couldn't put his plant foot down before getting blasted. Look at Brady when his oline went down in flames. Daniel Jones was getting smoked before he had time for a three-step drop.

[@ernestlloyd2134]

He did

[@Really-ej8jt]

@@ernestlloyd2134 sure he did

[@ernestlloyd2134]

@Really-ej8jt 🤣🤣🤣 let's be honest danel jones man stop it

[@Really-ej8jt]

@@ernestlloyd2134 did I say Daniel Jones was a good qb? I said that he had a trash o-line and every qb that played behind a trash o-line didn't play well or not very long.

[@eddieb7001]

Patty Cake Mahomes has the refs in his back pocket and you know it. Mahomes gets all the calls at the right time. All the Chiefs have to do for the majority of the time is keep the game close then the refs will run a few plays with him and then wala!! the Chiefs win. They are not legit as an elite team in history of the NFL .

[@ne0n1nja247]

Every day Nick Wright makes me root against the chiefs harder

[@romerissevans5790]

Yet you keep watching lol

[@ne0n1nja247]

@@romerissevans5790 I mean I like rooting against the Chiefs tho. This just like my Anti Hype man. lmao

[@bauerpower83]

100% . between him and mahomes wife they both make me hate him more and more.

[@nknknk07]

LOL ! As a Chiefs fan, I can’t help but love them

[@mikejames1347]

He went to a Super Bowl with a completely decimated O-line……

[@skipg73]

That man is not lying, you people need to stop it. Mahomes couldnt have done what hes doing now on about 29 other teams in the nfl. To try and pretend he wasnt elevated by Reid, Kelce and landing on a winning playoff team is asinine.

[@margcan]

While the real people that know football don't believe this.He had the most receiver misses this year.His offensive line was horrible the first few years and Mahome still did it now.Is he getting better?I don't know, but the guy is not only good good.He is coach minded. Not sure he'll keep winning.He's going to have to step it up each year

[@andrewmbaba7608]

Tells others not to lie, and then proceeds to make up your own lies lol... Mahomes on the Bills would be SB champions; same with Dolphins, Niners, Philly, Bengals, Cowboys, etc.... Making things up to defend DJ is truly the epitome of fandom.

[@skipg73]

@@andrewmbaba7608 Oh yeah you picked a team with the #1 defense for years. Now would Mahomes win a Super Bowl if he was on the Jaguars, Jets, Panthers, Falcons, Broncos, Titans, Giants, Commanders I could go on. And don't ever disrespect Joe Burrow like that again he turned a franchise around from the bottom Mahomes didn't and can't do that as a matter of fact he rode the bench his rookie years as the other QB took them to a playoff victory. The best is about talent not how good a situation you landed in bcuz top QBs coming out of college are tasked by being drafted to the worst teams, Mahomes was never under any metric considered the top QB by anyone coming out of college. I'm no fan boy like you who feel the need to lie for a player I'm no Bengal fan and Joe Burrow is the best QB in the NFL go argue with yourself about.

[@andrewmbaba7608]

@@skipg73 Live in delusional land all you want to; if Joe Burrow was the best QB in the NFL; he'd be a SB Champion; too bad he isn't. Would Burrow be what he is if HE was on the Titans, Giants, Commanders, I could go on.... keep lying to your self and pretending you're not a Closet Burrow Fanboy.

[@Curlyhedmason]

You sound slow😂😂

[@DoughnutDavid]

Keeping the dream alive. Nice job Ngyun Nhoab

[@random9727]

Says more about him as GM than his coaches

[@Nick-r8g]

The Giants need to just tank and take a shot on Deions boy n hope hes another stroud. Otherwise, keep Mahomes out ur mouth

[@vicecityJ305]

Don't complain about the the Bengals picking Chase over the oline. Tell Joe to just make it work lol

[@marceld8961]

That's true, but Joe still made it kind of made it work by reaching a Super Bowl and then the following year making it to the AFC Championship the following year.

[@vicecityJ305]

@marceld8961 yea but some qb with bad lines don't have tee and chase and mixon.

[@justadude1065]

@@vicecityJ305weapons do not matter if you have a shit oline. This is common sense. The QB has to be good enough to overcome that and clearly jones isn’t.

[@TOoLoUd89292]

Daniel Jones ain't it not even a backup 3rd string at best

[@bsmith8943]

What a joke of a franchise. This is why they suck.

[@David-j9h9g]

dont dis my QB..wah wah!!!!

[@Livinofflaughter]

Whatever you gotta tell yourselves giants

[@RaulGuzman-jo3nr]

Life is good

[@mikediao15]

funny how Tyrod Taylor and the Italian kid operated okay with that O-line. lol.

[@AnthonyLucas-or9lw]

And what was they're record I'm not saying Jones is good Qb but that O-line is trash and who was he suppose to throw it to himself he couldn't throw to Barkley on every play

[@dbmagee21]

Love the board!

[@mrb532]

Mahomes is the most overrated player in history. He wouldnt even be a pro bowler on the Giants

[@RRL28]

You sound restarted

[@aidencook774]

Chromosome check

[@TheCephalon]

Please seek professional help good sir.

[@danmorse2002]

Bro…. You can’t call yourself a football fan with that ridiculous take. I’m not a Mahomes fan really but come on…. He’s the most skilled player we’ve seen in a generation.

[@krisw5860]

Drug test now

[@asobstoryforeverysong9853]

Without Andy Reid Mahomes would be ranked between 8-10 in QBS. Watch when Reid retires or drops dead

[@michaelramirez9483]

Lol mahomes has field vision, has survivor vision. Once they lost Tyreek Everyone had the Chiefs not even going above and beyond (even with or without Kelce)....somehow they got to the superbowl Andy Reid is the director but mahomes can stay alive unequivocally as opposed to Belichick with Brady

[@keemboogie9155]

That’s what u waiting for ….

[@vanillatornado8390]

Classy. And if/when that doesn't happen you'll be ghost. Reid wasn't a HoF HC pre Mahomes. He was fired in Philly and blew a ~28 point lead in the playoffs in KC. They need each other, like every QB/HC duo ever. Brady picked a stacked roster and won one without Bill. Look at what happened to him the next season. He got beat by Dak in round one. Reid has great schemes. Simultaneously, Kelce gets open by not running Reid's routes, and Mahomes regularly has to play backyard football because Reid's play call didn't work. It will heavily depend on who replaces Reid. It sounds like you hope there's a fall off, but no one knows until we get there. Most likely he'll have the best offensive minds in football clambering to coach him. The most similar situation I can think of is Montana. The mid career coach change didn't slow him down.

[@secondchance5080]

Drop dead is crazy

[@asobstoryforeverysong9853]

@@vanillatornado8390 LOL he went to 5 (FIVE) NFC championship games with DONOVAN MCNABB, and compiled a 130-93-1 record - again, with DONOVAN MCNABB!!! Maybe you didn't watch the NFL then. Basically McNabb was at the same level as Danny Dimes. He also went to a SB with him and lost on a FG to the GOAT with his best player (Owens) playing on one leg. look it up and do some research. We all saw how shit Mahomes was last season when Reid wasn't able to scheme Kelce WIDE OPEN. Once he adjusted and Mahomes had receivers getting wide open again his numbers went up. These are facts, go back and look. When he tried to carry the team early in the year he played like shit and wasn't even close to being in the MVP conversation.