First Time Reaction to Let 3 - Mama ŠČ! | Croatia 🇭🇷 /// Eurovision 2023

[@josipmaksimovic6728]

This is the deadly serious song about the deadly serious things...

[@UsernameUsername0000]

It’s a tongue-in-cheek song that’s pretty much political satire (almost each line and motif is a reference, and you can look more into that if you want). It’s unstructured, it’s random, it’s clunky, but it’s absolutely won me over. It works because they laugh with you and not at you. Seeing how seasoned the band is, and how spectacular they are live, I’m confident they will qualify.

[@awicca3079]

It's very much structured. It's structured in acts, it seems as pure chaos, but like in any real war there is clear structure taking place.

[@awicca3079]

Have you noticed the flow of the music? Starts with a boom, an idea. After the introduction "Mama kupila traktora" is repeated for quite a chuck of the song. One could interpret that as a repeatment of the history, the society grooming phase, and the cold war in Ukraine. The stuff that happened in the background, while the rest of the world wasn't really affected. Then comes the electronical bit, the brainwashing phase after which you ecstaticly emerge excited to go to war! This goes well with alphabet analysis, and if we look back the Russian kids were excited to go to war, but never really understood what it meant. I remember this from the early begining of the war. After this we have a musical part, glorifying the cause, excitement, proclaiming to your country that you're going to war! All of this under the influence of the moron that the mother loved, moron turned psychopath, now ever clear for everyone to see. After that, we got the same tune as the one from the beginning which represented grooming, except now it's assemblement. And it's done swiftly! Finally, we get back to the musical part, which slowly transforms into a dramatic moment that explodes at the end. The dramatic bit included undressing, revealing the true self, there is pain, but there is no hesitation. One could say they are fanatic. It's really interesting, this is a piece that lasts 3 mins, but it's analysis can indeed be two hours long.

[@MsSwap2009]

Croatian music was best at 1970-2000 the best voice - JOSIPA LISAC & INDEXI - O jednoj mladosti (live 1995.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4eynoOdjMR8jKM Massimo - Sjaj u tami kzbin.info/www/bejne/anOWY6aDgKaehdk Gibonni - Projdi Vilo kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaesY62oZtmEqdk Let 3 feat folk opera Ero kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6OQe2Wsm9-Zn8k Darko Rundek - Ruke kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIachntrrpJomLs Silente - Terca na tisinu kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ2ziJmtqJeKqcU Valentino Boskovic i TBF - Adio, Trafikonte! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn-adKZ3ja2DaLc Goran Bare & Majke - Teške boje kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZemg3Sai6mVrpo

[@patroden]

Added them all to the list, thanks!

[@ivankos3305]

.From CroaŠČia..........Hidden in a plain sight. This is a superb ‘rock-opera’ anti-war parody with powerful visuals. Tractor is a reference to Belarus president Lukashenko's birthday present to Putin. In the song Putin is described as a "vile little psychopath", the vocalist represents Stalin, and the guy with nuclear rockets has NINLE on his forehead (word play: Nin-Le=Lenin) and is dressed in monk's outfit, like Rasputin. Insertion of a dominant, sinister, dark Lenin, who came way before Putin, points to a much deeper problem. And those TWO nuclear warheads; after all we all know who dropped the A-bombs! At the end of the video, on the nuclear missile, it is written "pajČu", an anagram; "Čupaj"- pull out. Trajna nina nena’ is Croatian song for little kids; ‘Trajna nina armagedon nona’(grandma) speaks for itself. Mama ŠČ is a metaphor for Mother Russia (ŠČ is a letter of the Russian alphabet, also old Croatian Glagolitic). The Cyrillic letter Shch Щ was derived from the Glagolitic (Croatian script) letter Sht Ⱋ. Coincidently, the sum of letters Š and Č gives Z (25+4=29) in Croatian alphabet, and Z is a military symbol used by Russian Federation to mark their military vehicles in Ukraine. The chaotic part of the song represents repeating the same mistakes from history, and not learning anything. It plays Croatian alphabet in reverse: Ž(Ж/Ⰶ), Z(З/Ⰷ), V(В/Ⰲ), U(У/Ⱆ), T(Т/Ⱅ), Š(Ш/Ⱎ), S(С/Ⱄ), R(Р/Ⱃ), P(П/Ⱂ), O(О/Ⱁ), Nj(Њ/Ⱀⰺ), N(Н/Ⱀ), M(М/Ⰿ), Lj(Љ/Ⰾⰺ), L(Л/Ⰾ), K(К/Ⰽ), J(Й/Ⰺ), I(И/Ⰻ), H(Х/Ⱈ), G(Г/Ⰳ), F(Ф/Ⱇ), E(Е/Ⰵ), Đ(Ђ/Ⰼ), Dž(Џ/Ⰴⰶ), D(Д/Ⰴ), Ć(Ћ/Ⱋ), Č(Ч/Ⱍ), C(Ц/Ⱌ), B(Б/Ⰱ), A(А/Ⰰ). Visually, there are a lot of subliminals with multilevel meaning. Crocodile is a terrible drug popular in Russia, that makes people act like zombies. Guys are dressed in military uniforms but in pink and bright colors and are wearing dresses; making fun of all warmongers and military establishments, proponents of chaos. Side image shows roses sticking out of their asses. Preposterous, or superb description of the present time? Main exclamation is ‘mama idem u rat’- mommy I am going to war, a cry against the forced mobilization, and sending young people to kill each other. Are we ever going to learn?!

[@patroden]

What a great comment. Thank you so much for all of the education!

[@danijelamehkek7086]

Odlično objašnjeno.Iako su naš Let 3 pomalo ludi,poslali su jasnu poruku protiv rata.

[@LaplacianDalembertian]

It actually reminds me that wars are all because somebody has different alphabet over this "language-nation" concept. And yet every alphabet is essentially the same because every one of them contains "A B C" in different ways. So it means that all wars are over nothing, having no meaning. Also I can feel that smell of Yugoslavian wars somewhere deep in that song. Really jams somewhere but I cannot pinpoint it.

[@patroden]

I disagree strongly. There has been many wars from peoples with the same language...

[@Rikki_Rik]

You are absolutely wrong!!! The song is about Zelensky. It is he who runs around in military clothes and asks for weapons. The tractor in the song symbolizes a Polish tractor that was hit by a Ukrainian rocket. But the most important thing is the phrase: "krokodilski psihopat", it is consonant with zelenskiy, a crocodile of green color, and in Ukrainian green sounds like zeleni, i.e. it is a hint of Zelensky. It all fits together. It was Ukraine that fired at a nuclear power plant on his orders, this is hinted at by missiles with the radiation sign. While the performers are afraid to talk about it, but they will definitely tell you later))))

[@crobrazilac]

hahahaha Let 3 literally broke Chat GPT hahahah Great reaction BTW.

[@patroden]

👐

[@AlcatrazHR]

ChatGPT: ""Mama ŠČ" is a song by the Croatian alternative rock band Let3. The song was released in 1995 as part of their album "Peace," which is known for its provocative and controversial lyrics. The song "Mama ŠČ" is known for its explicit and provocative lyrics, which contain explicit sexual references and profanity. The lyrics are sung in Croatian and use vulgar language, which makes it difficult to provide an accurate translation without compromising the explicit content. The song is often considered as a form of social commentary or satire, challenging societal norms and pushing the boundaries of artistic expression. The song's lyrics are known for their shock value and have been interpreted in various ways by listeners. Some see it as a critique of traditional gender roles, while others view it as a commentary on societal taboos around sex and sexuality. Overall, "Mama ŠČ" is known for its controversial and provocative nature, and its meaning can be open to interpretation based on the listener's perspective. It's worth noting that Let3 is known for their unconventional and avant-garde approach to music and performance, often pushing boundaries and challenging norms in their artistic expression." LOL! Not even close! :D

[@petarperic1411]

ŠČ❤

[@ivankos3305]

You were watching the video instead the live performance.........................................

[@Gea2222]

Yeah live performance is better

[@auroraborealis2709]

Napravili su dar mar😂😂😂😂Let3❤🇭🇷

[@Cestvache]

krokodil is a street drug allegedly popular in Russia, derived from codeine. That sound they keep making is their version of щ, a russian consonant. (like "sh" but up the top of the palate). There is a lot more in it, but I thought I would just mention these two.

[@patroden]

Thanks for the info!

[@tomislavb.5470]

@@patroden You have official english lyrics in video, just press CC

[@Marcellogo]

@@patroden The two letter used is typical of ( a latin letter) slavic language so to translate an unique russian letter they took two (almost) unique croatian letters. So, better leave the translators turned off. Trajna Nina, Nena is a lullaby, Krokodril is a drug (and a satirical soviet magazine).

[@melitavolf7409]

Poštovani.Svidjela mi se Vaša prva reakcija na pjesmu : šok,nevjerica, ali zarazni ritam je i Vas ponio. Euroviziji treba ovako nešto : malo pomaknito, izvan svih normi i pravila,šokantno,bizarno...lp I uživajte ŠČ

[@patroden]

Hvala vam puno na vašem komentaru! Ovo mi uljepša dan :)

[@MissCiklama]

You listen song once , twice and then it is under your skin forever …. Šč !!!

[@compaq6715]

I love the fact AI can't understand it. The lyrics are cryptic but very meaningful, I will write some interpretations but they officially said it's an anti-war song and that ŠČ can be different things such as a sound you make when you cum 😆. They exist as a bend in Croatia for over 30 years now and they are always making some performances like this to shock people and they are very liberal. According to the interpretation, the letter ŠČ doesn't exist in the Croatian language as a letter or a word but Š is number 25th in the alphabet, Č is the number 4, and when you add it together it's 29 which is the letter Z. Russia is using letter Z in the war even do it's not in their alphabet. This is why singing the whole alphabet also makes some sense. On the rockets in the live performance, there is written "NJIN-LE" - LE-NJIN (meaning Lenin), PAJČU - ČUPAJ (meaning Pull out but since everything is upside down it's actually Put-in!) Also, drag dressing as military soldiers can be interpreted as mocking all of the dictators who are not LGBT-friendly usually. Their taking of the clothes at the end of the live performance can be interpreted as "the king is naked", referring to a person who is so vain he does not see the truth about himself, but the world does. ;) Now, the lyrics' interpretation can go as follows: Mother ŠČ (Mother Russia) Mom bought a tractor (Mother Russia bought a Belarus - Belarus is a model of a tractor and Lucaschenko purchased a tractor for Putin's 70s birthday) Armageddon granma (Armageddon SSSR) Mom loved a moron (repeating) (Russia loved Putin, Lenin, ...) Mom, I'm going to play (for Putin this is a game, but kids are dying) Mom, I'm going to war (he will go to war, but he said this is not a war for him it's the liberation of the territory) Mom loved a moron (Russia loved Putin) That little psychopath (Puttin is short) Wicked little psychopath Crocodile psychopath (Crocodile tears - fake tears, also a drug used in Russia which makes people act like zombies also Boris Johnson said dealing with Putin was like "a crocodile when it's got your leg in its jaws" ) Hope you will understand now better the whole concept of the song. It's brilliant on some other level :)

[@patroden]

Wow! So much information! I learned a lot with your comment

[@dancansubito8250]

@Toni I never heard that the drug crocodile would be popular in Russia. I think crocodile in the song should be interpreted as dictator making zombies from the people like this drug is doing with them.

[@inganodieva7510]

Bravo!!!Magnifique!!!Strange,but is the best!!!This show is the standard for all !!!!!

[@helenanalis522]

Poslušajte druge pjesme LET 3, Goran Bare iMajke. Pozdrav iz Hrvatske.

[@patroden]

To bom storil! Najlepša hvala za predlog, velik objem!

[@kyrinasenci]

a bunch of mature males sing about all stupidity of the war, because the wars are lethal for children as well as the elders. This is an antiwar song and it's lyrics are satiric.

[@miroslavpendelj9685]

Trolling Stones! Made in Croatia.

[@tinasustic6504]

What they have on their head - glad (hunger), smrt (death), rat (war), kuga (plague) - the four riders of apocalypse ... tought you should know.

[@ivanmacanga2223]

yello - queen in the middle....unique guitar riff.......so fresh

[@danieleclementi3310]

If you'd like to check more croatian music, check the band Detour's song Master Blaster who were competing to represent Croatia this year but let3 won, or dok nas nema by Nika Turkovic

[@patroden]

Thank you Dan! I will check those out

[@sanjica_666]

@@patroden these are boring songs. better check other let 3 songs

[@dstaric1]

ŠČ!

[@Gea2222]

ChatGPT dont know about dadaism haha

[@TheKvale]

IT CAN'T BE LOWER THAN THIS!!! The abyss of morality, the nation, the State and all human values !!! Disease and depravity in the foreground and then we find it strange when a CHILD commits a massacre 😢😢😢😢😢 NE MOŽE BITI NIŽE OD OVOGA !!! Ponor morala, nacije, Države i svih ljudskih vrednosti !!! Bolest i izopačenost u prvom planu i onda nam je čudno kada DETE napravi masakr 😢😢😢😢😢

[@miroslavpendelj9685]

Very ŠČandemic!

[@zarkokomljenovic4865]

The melody kind of loosely reflects the Macarena, IMHO.

[@katicabrisevac3954]

❤❤❤❤

[@mariomarino3020]

"traj - na - ni - na - ne - na" is a phrase typical of traditional songs in NW Croatia where Let 3 a re coming from, it was used as a bridge between verses and meant the same as la la la la... Let 3 replaced traj - na - ni -na - ne - na with traj - na - ni -na - armagedon nona

[@ivanagruda3506]

when he takes off his cap and waves it while his bald head shines, it's such an Izet Fazlinović moment (popular Bosnian series - Crazy, confused, normal). 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Odeliya460]

Hey 👋🏼, you can react to idan Rachel music or idan amedi or hope 6.. we have in Israel a lot good music

[@patroden]

Oh, interesting, gonna check!

[@PeoplecallmeLucifer]

PERMANENT NINA HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA XD Trajan-nina is basically a filler line from the Region of Istria BTW "Trajna" DOES mean permanent but NOT in this case XD Also I would suggest you check out "Dubioza kolektiv" for some balkan music yo ucan understand (they have songs in english [space song, no escape from balkan, USA to name a few])

[@patroden]

Thank you! Gonna add those to the list

[@tomislavloncarek786]

PORUKA JE PRENESENA

[@arctic_haze]

There is a Russian letter which reads shch. So "Mama ŠČ" is obviously "Mother Russia". The rest is obvious 😀

[@AlterEgo-13]

Please, check out my favorite song from Let 3 "Sam u vodi".

[@slobodansepak5417]

Search for AZRA

[@patroden]

Okay!

[@gorki61]

još jedna s ovih prostora bivše države ...tvoja je bar ostala cijela kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIu9e5iDgK-Jaa8

[@belmordok3661]

Considering the actual content and the context of the song Mama ŠČ (Momma ShCh), this should be the closest, if not the actual, translation of the song. Greetings from Croatia ✌ º This is the anti-war song with sarcastic lyrics and irony ¹ It refers to when Belarus President Lukashenko has bought a tractor to the Russian President Putin as a gift, so since Russia finances Belarus, basically Russia bought a tractor to itself ² Šč (Щ) is a letter of the Russian alphabet (Russian azbuka), and the nickname for Russia is Mother Russia ³ Singing of (nuclear) lullaby (sarcasm) ⁴ Croatian Alphabet, in this case a little bit rearranged for the sake of the song Lyrics: ¹ Momma bought a tractor ² ShCh! Momma bought a tractor ShCh! Momma bought a tractor ³ Try-nah-neen-ah, Armageddon-noun-ah ShCh! Momma bought a tractor ShCh! Momma bought a tractor ShCh! Momma bought a tractor Try-nah-neen-ah, Armageddon-noun-ah TRACTOR... Momma's kissing a moron ShCh! Momma's kissing a moron ShCh! Momma's kissing a moron Try-nah-neen-ah, Armageddon-noun-ah ⁴ A, b, c, č, ć, d, dž, đ... sss (A, b, c, č, ć, d, dž, đ, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, i, j, k, i, j, k, i, j, k) I, j, k, l, lj, m, n, nj, OOOOO (o, p, r, s, o, p, r, s) (š, t, u, v, z, ž) Momma, momma, momma I'm gonna to play... Momma, I'm going to war!!! That little psychopath (W-w-war, war) A mean little psychopath (W-w-war, war) Crocodile psychopath (W-w-war, war) Momma, I'm going to war!!! TRACTOR... Momma's kissing a moron ShCh! Momma's kissing a moron ShCh! Momma's kissing a moron Try-nah-neen-ah, Armageddon-noun-ah That little psychopath (Mama, we're going to war) A mean little psychopath (War, war) Crocodile psychopath (Mama, we're going to war) Momma, I'm going to war!!! That little psychopath (Mama, we're going to war) A mean little psychopath (War, war) Crocodile psychopath (Mama, we're going to war) Momma, I'm going to war!!! Momma, momma, momma That little psychopath (Mama, we're going to war) A mean little psychopath (War, war) Crocodile psychopath (Mama, we're going to war) Momma, I'm going to war!!! ShCh! P.S. In 1997, the band released their fifth album, titled "Nečuveno" (translated as "Outrageous or "Unheard-of"). It was distributed as a CD, but it had nothing recorded on it. Nonetheless, 350 copies of the album were sold. The album had a video "Nečuveno" with just an empty blue screen. In 2000. Let3 made an album "Jedina" (The only one) in just 1 copy which they refused to publish, but when they did in one of their next concerts around that time, the band burned the copy in front of everyone without playing a single song from that album. There's more, but then again, google it. 😁😂

[@patroden]

Wow! An entire documentary in a comment. Thank you so much!

[@belmordok3661]

@@patroden Hahah, well, happy to help. 🙂

[@miroslavpendelj9685]

Krokodil is Russian drug.

[@patroden]

Isn't it done in the south republics and then inserted into russia?

[@LaplacianDalembertian]

There is deeper meaning with "idem u rat" which means "I am going to war". I can feel both current war and Yugoslavian wars combined. Also "traktor" means not just vehicle, but tank - because all "tractor factories" were mass producing tanks in WW. Also "traktor" means money which are given to families as compensation for lost soldiers. You can literally google it "white lada kalina" news report where russian family says they bought a car with "death money". This deep meaning is not funny at all. Very serious song. But on the surface it is satire because people understand it most easily.

[@slobodansepak5417]

Look for AZRA

[@marijastanisic5190]

They singing about crazy Putin...about war...bla bla....

[@MrKopi79]

At first I thought this was a humorous song. But when I read comments, this is apparently "a serious subject of death". Unfortunately, in my opinion, the video has failed because the video looks like a pretty comedy. And worst of all, most of the audience thinks the same, i think. Good still that you take a stand on the important thing, Respect and peace ❤️

[@diyzona]

OMG. So much wasted time. Google translate?

[@miroslavpendelj9685]

See photos of Krokodil used persons! Horror. More than horror.

[@patroden]

I remember seeing that like 10 years ago! But I couldn't do the connection with the song while doing the reaction. sorry!

[@biserkasertic1208]

@@patroden One of the explanations that's reference to Boris Johnson's claim:"When you negotiate with Putin, it's like negotiations with crocodile who have your one leg in his jaws"

[@tomislavloncarek786]

DECKI SAMO TAKO

[@damirb8031]

ŠČ!