Fishman Fluence MODERN VS CLASSIC Open Core Shootout | ROCK & METAL Humbucker Demo 2023

[@gabriel_guitar]

So... which one sounds best? Fishman Fluence Modern set or the Fluence Open Classic set? On that note, which one would you keep, the LTD EC 1000T or the EC 1001T CTM? Timestamps 👇 In a mix: 00:00 Intro 00:06 Clean 1 Modern Middle Voice 1 00:12 Clean 1 Modern Middle Voice 2 00:17 Clean 1 Classic Middle Voice 1 00:23 Clean 1 Classic Middle Voice 2 00:28 Rock Riff 1 Modern Bridge Voice 1 00:34 Rock Riff 1 Modern Bridge Voice 2 00:39 Rock Riff 1 Classic Bridge Voice 1 00:45 Rock Riff 1 Classic Bridge Voice 2 00:50 Rock Riff 2 Modern Bridge Voice 1 00:56 Rock Riff 2 Modern Bridge Voice 2 01:01 Rock Riff 2 Classic Bridge Voice 1 01:07 Rock Riff 2 Classic Bridge Voice 2 01:12 Metal Riff 1 Modern Bridge Voice 1 01:18 Metal Riff 1 Modern Bridge Voice 2 01:23 Metal Riff 1 Classic Bridge Voice 1 01:29 Metal Riff 1 Classic Bridge Voice 2 01:34 Metal Riff 2 Modern Bridge Voice 1 01:40 Metal Riff 2 Modern Bridge Voice 2 01:45 Metal Riff 2 Classic Bridge Voice 1 01:51 Metal Riff 2 Classic Bridge Voice 2 01:56 Metal Riff 3 Modern Bridge Voice 1 02:02 Metal Riff 3 Modern Bridge Voice 2 02:07 Metal Riff 3 Classic Bridge Voice 1 02:13 Metal Riff 3 Classic Bridge Voice 2 02:18 Metal Riff 4 Modern Bridge Voice 1 02:24 Metal Riff 4 Modern Bridge Voice 2 02:29 Metal Riff 4 Classic Bridge Voice 1 02:34 Metal Riff 4 Classic Bridge Voice 2 02:40 Lead 1 Modern Bridge Voice 1 02:45 Lead 1 Modern Bridge Voice 2 02:51 Lead 1 Classic Bridge Voice 1 02:56 Lead 1 Classic Bridge Voice 2 03:02 Clean 2 Modern Neck Voice 1 03:08 Clean 2 Modern Neck Voice 2 03:13 Clean 2 Classic Neck Voice 1 03:18 Clean 2 Classic Neck Voice 2 03:24 Lead 2 Modern Neck Voice 1 03:29 Lead 2 Modern Neck Voice 2 03:35 Lead 2 Classic Neck Voice 1 03:40 Lead 2 Classic Neck Voice 2 Isolated Guitars: 03:53 Clean 1 Modern Middle Voice 1 03:59 Clean 1 Modern Middle Voice 2 04:04 Clean 1 Classic Middle Voice 1 04:10 Clean 1 Classic Middle Voice 2 04:15 Rock Riff 1 Modern Bridge Voice 1 04:21 Rock Riff 1 Modern Bridge Voice 2 04:26 Rock Riff 1 Classic Bridge Voice 1 04:32 Rock Riff 1 Classic Bridge Voice 2 04:37 Rock Riff 2 Modern Bridge Voice 1 04:43 Rock Riff 2 Modern Bridge Voice 2 04:48 Rock Riff 2 Classic Bridge Voice 1 04:53 Rock Riff 2 Classic Bridge Voice 2 04:59 Metal Riff 1 Modern Bridge Voice 1 05:05 Metal Riff 1 Modern Bridge Voice 2 05:10 Metal Riff 1 Classic Bridge Voice 1 05:15 Metal Riff 1 Classic Bridge Voice 2 05:21 Metal Riff 2 Modern Bridge Voice 1 05:26 Metal Riff 2 Modern Bridge Voice 2 05:32 Metal Riff 2 Classic Bridge Voice 1 05:37 Metal Riff 2 Classic Bridge Voice 2 05:43 Metal Riff 3 Modern Bridge Voice 1 05:48 Metal Riff 3 Modern Bridge Voice 2 05:54 Metal Riff 3 Classic Bridge Voice 1 05:59 Metal Riff 3 Classic Bridge Voice 2 06:05 Metal Riff 4 Modern Bridge Voice 1 06:10 Metal Riff 4 Modern Bridge Voice 2 06:16 Metal Riff 4 Classic Bridge Voice 1 06:21 Metal Riff 4 Classic Bridge Voice 2 06:26 Lead 1 Modern Bridge Voice 1 06:32 Lead 1 Modern Bridge Voice 2 06:38 Lead 1 Classic Bridge Voice 1 06:43 Lead 1 Classic Bridge Voice 2 06:49 Clean 2 Modern Neck Voice 1 06:54 Clean 2 Modern Neck Voice 2 07:00 Clean 2 Classic Neck Voice 1 07:05 Clean 2 Classic Neck Voice 2 07:11 Lead 2 Modern Neck Voice 1 07:16 Lead 2 Modern Neck Voice 2 07:22 Lead 2 Classic Neck Voice 1 07:27 Lead 2 Classic Neck Voice 2

[@JayDoge]

Instead of switching pickups, couldn't a EQ pedal do most of the job? What are the Pros & Cons of either?

[@gabriel_guitar]

@@JayDoge I suppose it could get similar results in terms of sound, not sure it can replicate compression and how the pickups feel when playing. In terms of Pros & Cons, I'd say the Fluence Modern is virtually noiseless, some people say it's one the quietest on the market in terms of noise, in terms of voicing it's very much geared towards metal, high gain and they're very focused on the mids, you wouldn't necessarily need a boost pedal for metal with these pickups. I personally prefer the Classics, love all the voicings in particular the PAF voicing, and the split coil tones are great too. In this instance like you mentioned with a bit of EQ and an Overdrive Pedal I can get similar tones to the Moderns and much more.

[@JayDoge]

@@gabriel_guitar I also love the Open core tones, especially the PAF voicing. Obrigado por sua visao Gabriel!

[@gabriel_guitar]

Indeed, they're awesome! De nada amigo 🍻

[@leadguitarmiked]

This is awesome, thanks for doing this comparison! I have classics in my SG and this reaffirmed the classics are my favorite!

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you so much mate, appreciate you checking the video out. Yeah, me too, I'm becoming increasingly partial to the Classics, they really can do it all and also seem to have extra clarity!

[@leadguitarmiked]

@@gabriel_guitar voice 2 on the classic neck just blows my mind every time I use it

[@gabriel_guitar]

It's awesome for sure mate, I can imagine the classics sounding awesome on a Gibson, thinking about transplanting them to my Les Paul Standard, as much as I like the burstbuckers, it'd just make the guitar so versatile specially with how usable all the voicings are.

[@JacobNates]

I REALLY like voice 2 of the modern bridge on my LTD, but don't really care for voice 1 a ton... might have to try out the classic!

[@gabriel_guitar]

If you like voice 2 on the moderns you should definitely try out the classics mate 🍻

[@Fishman_Music]

This is an awesome video! 🤘

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you very much, appreciate you checking the video out 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@LucasLeCompteMusic]

Nice job man! this is really well done! I know these types of videos are a pain in the ass to edit lol.

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank so much you Lucas, really appreciate it mate 🍻! Ha, no doubt, these videos are very time consuming to edit. Just watched your Fishman Modern set vs the Tosin set comparison, awesome stuff as always, need to give the Tosin set a try, they do sound excellent on your video!

[@voa.aquino]

Excelente vídeo! Um dos melhores reviews que já vi. Mostrou exatamente o que eu precisava saber, sem dizer uma palavra!

[@gabriel_guitar]

Muito obrigado Vinícius! Feliz por gostares do video. Valeu amigo, é verdade às vezes basta deixar os instrumentos falar 🍻

[@catcancrunch7260]

Thanks for doing this, great track and playing

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you mate, really appreciate it 🍻

[@simon66766]

These are always a pleasure to listen to dude. Thank you. Hard to decide on this one personally.

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you Simon, really appreciate it my friend! Same here, hard to decide :)!

[@makethat4coffins856]

Ah thanks for doing this video dude, I want this Charvel Tele I'm looking at for playing predominantly metal, and I wasnt sure if the open core pickups were gonna be as good as the modern ones, but they sound really good! They're definitely more versatile

[@gabriel_guitar]

My pleasure mate, awesome, those Charvel teles look awesome and indeed the open core classics can do it all, even for the heavier stuff I kinda prefer the added clarity they provide 🍻

[@makethat4coffins856]

@Gabriel Moreira yeah man nice one, this video has made my mind 👍

[@IniresMirrors]

Man, I once was sure I wanted Classics, but I’m still torn, now. The Moderns in my Agile Chiral Nirvana blew my mind (and I’ve never liked active pickups), but I keep thinking about the Classics for my Schecter Omen. They do sound every bit as good as I’d expect Fishman pickups to sound, either way…

[@gabriel_guitar]

Hi mate, yeah, fishman fluence pups are excellent. If you already have metal covered on your Agile, I'd definitely give the classics, as much as I like the moderns I feel that the open core classics might be the most versatile pickup set out there, there's not much it can't cover.

[@serendipityrecordco9380]

I would pay extra if I could 'roll my own' with these voices. Setting 1: Voice 2 of Modern, Setting 2: Voice 1 of Classic, Setting 3: The new Inner/Outer Single Coil sounds from the Modern OC

[@gabriel_guitar]

Nice one mate, that'd be a killer combination for sure 🍻

[@rathoquarter]

You are a beautiful man and an incredible player. Also these videos are so thorough and solid. Voice reveal at 1000 subs?

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you so much bro, means a lot coming from you. Voice reveal is on the cards for sure :D

[@Hazardteam]

This is beautiful. I like the classic more somehow.

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you very much mate, same here, I do prefer the classics too

[@gustavoloebel]

I loved the Classic one for rock, amazing tone and vintage!

[@gabriel_guitar]

Yeah mate, fantastic pickups for sure! 🍻

[@paulrenevos]

And that just proves that the higher the gain the less difference in tone. no person in the audience is going to hear the difference, they are both great, though I like the single coil sound on the Classic

[@JohnDoe5-jy4nt]

I had this hunch too although I never heard them in person

[@BuddyGuy0621]

Good information, thank you

[@tonyy.8852]

That's a great comparison!! Still can't decide on what i want tho

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thanks Tony, appreciate it! It really depends on your playing style mate, for heavy riffing and if you’re into active, more compressed sounding pickups the modern set is probably the way to go, for everything else I’d probably go with the classics, even though I really like them for heavier tones too, they’re just a bit more “open” and dynamic sounding.

[@tonyy.8852]

@@gabriel_guitar I see, for now I really like the sound of the EMG 57, but I really like the different voicing on the fluence.

[@ChrisPuckett]

I just bought an E2 Eclipse with the Classics, and in my heavy gain Amp set up they sound amazing. I want to switch to the Fishman open core moderns, but I don’t know if I really need to because they sound amazing. I play heavy progish metal.

[@gabriel_guitar]

Hi mate, that’s a tricky one, I haven’t played the open core moderns but from what I gather they’re like ceramic moderns just with improved singlecoil/split tones. I much prefer the tone of the classics even for metal, the only disadvantage is that they’re a bit noisy in comparison to the moderns. 🍻

[@ChrisPuckett]

@@gabriel_guitar I’ve used Dimarzios for years and coming over to the Classics, it’s like night and day with the noise, the Classics have almost no noise for me in my practice set up. I haven’t put them through loud amp yet though.

[@gabriel_guitar]

Ha, for sure mate, in comparison to most passives, the classics are very quiet 😁

[@SteveMcT]

Great video! Makes me so sad that silverburst ctm is so hard to find. I want one with the moderns

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you mate, appreciate it! Stunning guitar for sure. I have the feeling they might release it again at some point, they have the silverburst Phoenix with fluence moderns now, hopefully they’ll realise it’s a missed opportunity to not have an EC version in the line-up.

[@corytaylor8673]

Classic bridge and modern neck for me. But id say keep both!

[@gabriel_guitar]

Nice one Cory, that'd make an excellent pairing for sure, unfortunately already sold the LTD with the Classics, but I'm sure I'll come across another set of classics at some point. Cheers for Checking the video out 🍻

[@Venemoth666]

Any chance to Old fluence Modern vs new Modern Open Core? Btw one of best comparision i seen on Yt😁

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you so much mate, really appreciate that 🍻! That’d be an awesome comparison for sure, need to get my hands on another guitar with Fluence moderns so I can feature and compare active pickups on the channel more often :).

[@titan_codes]

The classics sound killer

[@gabriel_guitar]

They do indeed 🍻

[@matsonhill3646]

This is really cool and a great “song”. I give the Classics the edge on the crunch and that’s why I put them in my guitar about a year ago. I’m curious what’s your gear setup for Rock Riff 2? Love that sound. I have a JCM 800 Combo I bought in 1989 and a Boss SD-1. Hopefully get it dialed in. I need a load box to bring out the essence of that amp. Great playing technique BTW.

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you so much for the kind words my friend, really appreciate it! For this particular demo I used ToneX, and the rock riffs are a capture of the Friedman BE100 going into greenback impulse responses. I wish I had the real amp tbh, but for now this is very convenient :). Nice one mate, a load box is indeed very convenient for amps like the JCM800 that sound the best when they’re cranked, I have a powerstation by fryette and highly recommend it 🍻

[@Ethersis]

Nice dude!

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you my friend, really appreciate it 🤘

[@glendoggett9670]

What exactly are the voices in the custom versions in the current Epiphone Prophecy line? I like that Honey Burst you have there!

[@gabriel_guitar]

Hi mate, it includes a modern active voicing (position 1), a vintage PAF voicing (position 2) and a single coil voicing (position 3), somewhat similar to open core classics just tweaked I believe. Yeah man, the Honey Burst is a sweet guitar for sure 🍻

[@DreidMusicalX]

I have to say I like the classics better. Both are very good, but the classics are just more brighter at cutting though to me. But not by much.

[@gabriel_guitar]

Yeah mate, really like the classics as well, much more "open" sounding.🍻

[@serbianwarrior4876]

how would you say the fluence modern compares to tim hensons new fishman signatures? one of the best pickup comparison vids ive ever seen btw, great content.

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you so much mate, very cool of you! I haven’t tried the Tim Henson set yet, but on paper the humbucker voicings seem to be closer to the fluence classics on voice 2, so probably with less output than the moderns but for the single coil tones it seems to be its own thing and I’d expect a lot more clarity and brightness there, hope that helps🍻

[@Dawid-bp9km]

Which voice of Classic’c you would use for metal rhythm guitar(drop c/d)?

[@gabriel_guitar]

Hi mate, I really like the PAF voicing (voice 1) even for metal, it just has more clarity.

[@Dawid-bp9km]

@@gabriel_guitar Hello, I'm asking because I was wondering which voice would work better for sounds such as trivium or bullet for my valentine

[@gabriel_guitar]

@@Dawid-bp9km if metalcore is what you're looking for in terms of tone, voice 2 seems more appropriate, it has more output.

[@Semideiapranome2]

Particularmente não ouvi muita diferença entre os captadores, poderia dizer se pessoalmente a diferença é maior? Ou se tem muita diferença na sensação ao tocar ? Dito isso, excelente vídeo, seus vídeos de comparações de captadores são os melhores do KZbin!

[@Semideiapranome2]

Porque eu estava pensando em pegar uma LTD com os fishman open core classic, e eu gosto muito de tocar metal e tinha medo de que o classic não fosse o ideal para isso, mas pelo vídeo me pareceu ótimo.

[@gabriel_guitar]

Muito obrigado, feliz por gostares das minhas comparações de pickups! Em termos de feel os classics são muito mais dinâmicos, o som também é mais “aberto”, não é tão focado nos médios como os moderns. Eu pessoalmente prefiro muito mais os classics, em termos de pickups activos são possivelmente os melhores pickups que já toquei, inclusivamente para metal, a voice 2 ajuda bastante nesse sentido. Os moderns são bons também, mas muito menos versáteis e têm muito mais compressão. 🍻

[@PrakharSrivastav]

Excellent playing man, love the demo! I have the moderns but would love to get the classics in another EC at some point! What are you using for tones? Your mixes sounds epic as well

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thank you so much mate, very cool of you, really appreciate it. For tones I used a ToneX EVH stealth capture for the metal rhythm section and a capture of the Friedman BE100 for the rock stuff. Cleans and Lead Tones are the Neural DSP Soldano plugin. Happy to share presets if you have any of these plugins 🍻

[@PrakharSrivastav]

@@gabriel_guitar amazing! Thank you!

[@liametoh]

I own a Epiphone Prophecy with Epiphone Fishman Fluence pickup (stock one). How do you compare the epiphone fishman fluence with modern set?? Is it worth to change to modern set?? Actually modern set come with a single coil mode (third voice)! That sound interesting. Thanks!! Good and nice video!!

[@gabriel_guitar]

Hi mate, thank you. I actually really liked the Epiphone Fluences, personally I wouldn't change it. I like the moderns but much prefer the set that comes with the Epiphone Prophecy, voice 2 on the Prophecy gets quite close to the moderns if metal is what you're going for 🍻

[@liametoh]

@@gabriel_guitar Thank you so much. I really appreciate your answer.

[@epade]

Modern for me!

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thanks for checking the video out mate, the Fluence Moderns are awesome no doubt 🍻

[@gaetanmottin1703]

assomme thank you

[@raspillade6027]

I like the Fishman better

[@Nick91Wolf]

Good job! Someone told me Fishman Open Core CLASSIC do not really work well with thicker strings like 12-56 for instance. Did you have an opportunity to check that out? What gauge do you use with these pickups? Thanks

[@gabriel_guitar]

Thanks mate, really appreciate it! Unfortunately I haven’t tried lower tunings and thicker string gauges with the Open Core Classics yet, I have a regular set of 10-46 on that guitar. I’ll report back if I get around to change the strings for something heavier 🍻

[@Nick91Wolf]

@@gabriel_guitar thanks for reply, hope to hearing from you. Good luck in your future endeavours!

[@david-no]

Nah that's rubbish. I have them on a 7 string and they work very well.

[@trumancarter1299]

I'm wanting to try something different with my Wolfgang which has the USA Wolfgang pickups in it and I'm thinking about the fluence classics..think I'll be happy with the switch?

[@gabriel_guitar]

Hi mate, I think they'd work great, very versatile pickups that feel great to play. Used to have a Japanese Wolfgang with the American pickups too, I ended up replacing the bridge pickup with a Dimarzio Crunch Lab, but looking back the classics would have been a better option. 🍻

[@trumancarter1299]

Thank you very much for the response..I'm a metal player primarily and your video sold me on the classics..I'm going to order the set and throw em in the Wolfgang..I uses to have a Wolfgang with Crunchlab also lol..also a nice pickup

[@gabriel_guitar]

@@trumancarter1299 haha, that's quite the coincidence! Right on man, the crunchlab is a really cool pickup too, very tight sounding. My pleasure mate, let me know how it sounds on your guitar when you get them installed 🍻

[@thegeetarmann]

🤘😎🤘

[@gabriel_guitar]

🤘🏻🍻🤘🏻

[@simonsmith2642]

Clasics for me..

[@gabriel_guitar]

Nice one mate, super versatile pickups 🍻

[@TudorAdrian]

I think the Classics kill it overall

[@gabriel_guitar]

Agreed mate, as much as I like voice 2 on the moderns, the classics just sound a lot more open.