Fitting extra insulation in our Elddis CV 20 Fiat Ducato based Campervan

[@bencumpstone9483]

Thanks David , just ordered the recomended materials , will be fitting next week in time for our trip to the Alps

[@LeisureBit]

Hope all goes well with your install and have a fantastic trip to the Alps - worth insulating the back sides also, i did that recently and its made even more of a difference. All the very best, David 👍

[@bencumpstone9483]

@@LeisureBit Hi David , We were planning on doing rear doors first then sliding doors next . We love mountains (Pyrenees last year ) What other areas could benefit from insulation? I was under the impression that the body was insulated by Elddis

[@jimmurray6195]

Nice, tidy job David. I did the same and covered the door cards with cream faux leather as we didn't like the black and this brightens the interior. Keep safe and keep the videos coming.

[@LeisureBit]

Thanks Jim, appreciate the comment - did you manage to cover up the clips on the door with the faux leather? completely agree the door card could look much better. Thanks again, David 👍

[@jimmurray6195]

Hi David. We still have the black studs as we like the contrast of the black on cream. Another option could be to change them to cream but not finally decided yet.

[@Wizardinthewild]

Excellent job David. You took a lot of care over that. Made me feel bad I just bunged mine in. Very scientific to. Nicely explained. Cheers. 👍🧙‍♂️🚐

[@LeisureBit]

Thank you, really appreciate the comment, it definitely seems to have made a difference. Thanks again, David 👍

[@timw2973]

Nice job David, I did the same when we got our. I sprayed waxoly in the bottom of the doors to for added protection. I also plan to change the door cards and fit with 4 way stretch carpet for a warmer feel / appearance. Look forward to the next vlog

[@LeisureBit]

Thanks Tim - good idea to put some waxoyl in the bottom in case of any damp as I was a bit worried and was going to check to make sure not damp following - be great if you could get the 4 way stretch to hide the clips too - thanks again, David 👍

[@neilwr7442]

Thank you for doing this video. Can I please just ask why you didn't include a vapour barrier. The skin of door is now much cooler, so without any vapour check/barrier, I'd expect condensation to form on the inside of the door skin which could increase chance of corrosion 😢

[@LeisureBit]

Thanks for the comment, It's a really good point as I also worried about the same and have had the cover off numerous times to check, each time, dry as a bone. Probably worth putting some treatment on the inside, with all the lock mechanism not sure how effective it would have been to get a proper vapour barrier. Watching / reading some others, there seems to be mixed results in vans, the material is recycled plastic bottles so doesn't soak in moisture which I think helps. So far, no issues but sure there would be a more comprehensive way of doing it to reduce the chance of course. Thanks again, all the best, David

[@neilwr7442]

Thanks for the feedback David, good to hear you've not seen any issues. 👍

[@G.J..Journeys]

Nicely done. Thanks for sharing. 👍

[@LeisureBit]

Thank you - appreciate the comment - all the best, David 👍

[@BrianWood-bt9mg]

Very useful thank you very informative

[@LeisureBit]

Thank you - it really did make a massive difference Rachel & David 💕

[@libbysmith6557]

Done back doors and sliding door 😊

[@LeisureBit]

Brilliant - you will be all snug and warm now 😀 I still have me side door to do ☺️ all the best, David 👍

[@williamhurley8407]

Hi David thanks for you4 video, I will be getting our new van conversion hopefully end of September. I have purchased all the materials ready to be fitted. David have you had a chance to check out the sliding door yet. Thanks.

[@LeisureBit]

Excellent - I haven’t done the sliding door yet but it’s on the to-do list still I have however insulated the back corners and the space above the back door which seems to have made a difference. All the best, David 👍

[@williamhurley8407]

@@LeisureBit Thanks David, actually on reflection, I don’t think I would get access to the sliding door due to the kitchen. But I watched this video were the door had to be removed to get access, and there was no insulation inside the door. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHTOgaawjNGCgLM

[@caravanningmacs8009]

Hi David. Very interested in how thoroughly you tackled this one and thanks for all the extra details that ensure a really effective and tidy job. Can't understand why Elddis don't do this during build - it's not as if it's so time-consuming or expensive, but surely makes use of the van more comfortable. Looking forward to more. Thank you. George and Trish - CaravanningMacs.

[@LeisureBit]

Thank you George and Trish, appreciate the comment - I would imagine if you were used to doing it you could cut the time right down - the fiddly bit was cutting the sound deadening and getting the backing off 😀 all the best for 2022 - take care, David & Rachel 👍

[@salvothegermanshepherd4399]

Great video, I just wondered if tou could tell me how you removed the door button at the start of the video. Thanks for sharing this information.

[@LeisureBit]

The button just clipped out - I used the trim pulling tool on it and it came out no problem. Hope that helps All the best, David 👍

[@salvothegermanshepherd4399]

@@LeisureBit Thank you, it really does help as there's literally no information about it anywhere. Thanks again.

[@LeisureBit]

No problem at all - I was worried before I did the job but it just popped off and popped back in on mine no problem

[@LeisureBit]

I’m aware of an issue and have reported to KZbin where some comments are being left, I receive a notification then the comment is being removed. Sorry if you’ve left a comment and it’s not shown, will update when I know more. Best regards, David

[@BOOMEL12]

Can you tell me about the thermal camera you have please?

[@LeisureBit]

Hello, let me check the details of it and will come back, sorry for the delay. All the best, David 👍

[@tylerstravels0610]

Nice job there David, nice to see the mods are starting :-) Can't believe though that Elddis did not do this in the first place, for the sake of a few extra quid !!! Deb said thats one of the first things she wants me to do on our van. Also she wants a curtain across the rear doors, is that something you have planned??

[@LeisureBit]

Thanks for the comment most appreciated- ref curtain, yes but just working out colour scheme as was also going to put side window curtains in the back too - from what others have said I think that then removes any draft in the wind at the back door - good idea 👍 David 😀

[@chrisharris1527]

Have you had a look at the side sliding door ?

[@LeisureBit]

Thank Chris, It’s on my to do list as noticed it was cold there too 👍 definitely worth insulating I think. All the best, David 👍

[@ronecc2]

Can you get to the door tops to insulate those?

[@LeisureBit]

You can poke insulation up so far, you could remove the top panel I believe, you can get a fair bit up the side, to do it fully you would need the panel off - I’ve found what;’s one has done the job for us as made it MUCH better. All the best, David 👍

[@margaretpattison2016]

Do you know where to buy a new back panel. Please.

[@LeisureBit]

Do you mean the bit which covers over where I insulated? I believe Solway Camper Conversations sell them, else the Fiat dealer may have them too. Hope that helps, all the best, David 👍

[@MotoGoYo]

Good job. I've converted a few vans myself over the years and always paid careful attention to insulating and sound deadening. For ease, I'm thinking of buying a pre-converted van next spring and this is one on my list of possibles. I was surprised to see that there is no insulation at all in the back doors. Is there insulation in any of the rest of the van do you know?

[@LeisureBit]

Thanks for the comment and great question, yes there is insulation in the van but not in some of the voids such as the doors - perhaps not as much as if you did it yourself but there is some. The rear panels where the brake lights are etc I have recently added some too also. All helps doesn’t it. All the best, David 👍

[@chrisharris1527]

Hi, do you have a link to the thermal image device you used, thanks

[@LeisureBit]

Hi Chris, It’s similar to the one linked below but I paid no where near that but it’s the same resolution so worth looking around. Hope that helps ; 220 x 160 IR Resolution Infrared Thermal Imager, Handheld 35200 Pixels Thermal Imaging Camera,Infrared Thermometer with 3.2" Color Display Screen(Battery Included) www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BDJZ845/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_28Z2QA0D9D9K0WEBETGX

[@Tom-le2px]

Hi David, just finished having watched your video, thank you, did you notice a difference, any problems with condensation since insulating?

[@LeisureBit]

Thank you for watching & commenting. No, there hasn’t been an increase in condensation. I check periodically as it was on my mind but it’s been fine. The insulation has made a vast difference in the back doors. If you do go ahead it is worth while keeping an eye out & checking for increased condensation though David & Rachel

[@Tom-le2px]

@@LeisureBit I have Knaus Campervan and tbf it did have some form of sound deadening/insulation in place albeit small amount and it had come away from panels probably due to heat whilst abroad, the upgrade is much more substantial so pleased with end result. I will certainly take onboard you advice with regards to checking periodically for condensation. Thanks again, you guys have lovely xmas, look forward to more videos:)

[@regnbean67]

Hi David. Enjoying your videos. Do you have any plans to insulate the top half of the doors, around the windows? 👍

[@LeisureBit]

Hi Nick, really great question, I’m going to have a look at the installation generally shortly to try and minimise heat loss/gain. All the best, David 👍

[@regnbean67]

Hi David. Many thanks for your reply. We also have a professionally converted PVC - Fiat Ducato and are keen to improve the insulation. Certainly the rear doors, sliding door and cab doors are, I believe, generally known to be lacking in any form of insulation or sound deadening. I would be keen to learn of what you might next do in this respect. Keep up the great work. Thanks again, Nick 👍

[@cirkuscederstrom]

Great video! Have you experienced condensation in the gap between the rear doors? I believe this is a problematic thermal bridge but not sure what to do about it

[@LeisureBit]

Thank you - Interestingly, when away at the weekend and it was -3C the metal part in the middle was very cold. With the heating on I’ve not noticed condensation but it is very cold at that point when it’s cold outside. I will look to do something to cover that when I get chance but not sure best approach as yet as you say. There is definitely a noticeable difference with the insulation in the door but just the metal parts to consider. All the best, David 👍

[@ronecc2]

Is it just me, or is there a knack for getting the push button at the top corner, out. I cannot figure out how to remove it.

[@LeisureBit]

I used a trim puller and it just popped out and then pushes back in - you can prob do it with a screwdriver but I always end up slipping with them - it did come out easy enough for ref but always easier with the right tool - not sure if that helps… all the best, David 👍

[@ronecc2]

@@LeisureBit Thanks. I have now managed it, but it was extremely well fitted. I almost snapped the trim tool levering it. I used two, one each side and it made a loud snapping sound as it came out. Nothing broken though. Thanks for replying so quickly.

[@LeisureBit]

@ronecc2 crikey that sounds like it was tight - pleased you got it sorted 👍

[@ronecc2]

@@LeisureBit The second door was much easier. The button popped out very easily. The doors are now all padded out. The sliding door had some padding in, but it was just soft foam, so I have replaced where I can reach with the denser padding. I might do the two front doors when I can figure out how to get the Remis blinds off

[@brianridley1102]

I thought the Elldis was supposed to be Class3/grade3? Certified, that can't be true with no insulation present in the doors?

[@LeisureBit]

Interesting point - I could be off here but believe to get the certification the habitation area just needs to be able to hold a temperature with the heating on to pass the class 3 so the insulation fitter would likely cover that level (floor, sides & roof)

[@davidmason1919]

Jobs a good ‘un 👍

[@LeisureBit]

Thanks for the comment, most appreciated - All the best - David 👍

[@paulbenson7381]

Good job but you'd think the manufacturer or conversion company would do it

[@LeisureBit]

Thanks Paul. Maybe they try and keep the cost down but would have been good to have some basic insulation to save energy anyhow done now. All the best, David 👍

[@ghunt9146]

Yes, very shoddy manufacturing. Any self build would automatically use insulation. Paying a premium for these campers & then expecting you to sort it out. It's not on, Elddis.

[@brianridley1102]

Also I assume that insulation isn't a type that would absorb and hold water ? Thanks

[@LeisureBit]

Yes, that’s right it is great for not holding the moisture as it’s recycled plastic 👍

[@brianridley1102]

@@LeisureBit excellent thanks for that, great videos

[@petervanbeersel577]

Hi, how did you remove the rear door trim 180° button ? Thank you

[@LeisureBit]

It just clipped out with the trim puller - gently worked it out then it snapped out - it just clipped back in when you want to put it back. Gently ease it (worth keeping hold as it goes with a pop) - hope that helps, All the best, David 👍

[@petervanbeersel577]

@@LeisureBit Thank you very much ! We'll give it a go. 🙂