Fitting New Sails - Triton Osprey Refit Part 22

[@brucekratky7993]

Wow! She’s lovely with sails. Now we need to go out for a ride. 😊👍🏻

[@captainmike808]

I was wondering why you have it set up to do the reefing forward. Clean deck is nice.

[@UUBrahman]

About 10:20 there is narrative about the difficulties of routing lines to the back including the stepped shape of the coach top, penetrations through the dodger, extra winches in the cockpit, extra lines in the cockpit, and the necessity of still having to go forward to reef the mainsail.

[@Juppe50]

Very much in line with my own thoughts on sailing. I also have a removable inner stay for a smaller sail and the double preventers on each side of the boom. Great work!

[@georgebetar923]

Thank you for sharing...You have put a lot of thought into this sail design and I learned a few thibgs I will encorporaste on my next sail purchase.

[@growthandunderstanding]

Excellent video that provides a lot of insight on topics often neglected. Thank you!

[@EpoxyAndButylTape]

Another great video!

[@ukulelejazz1105]

Thank you so much! You've answered many questions I had about reefing. :)

[@patrickwentz8413]

Beautiful boat.

[@SailingSalsa]

So nice and clean. Nice job on the video, editing and everything. I hope to be passing through and see you in a month or so!

[@mainewoods5409]

Love your videos! Can you provide a ballpark price on a new mast, boom and rigging for a Triton? I understand there are many variables. Thanks!

[@atomvoyager]

Materials cost for new mast is about $4k, boom $1k, standing rigging $2k.

[@jackrabbit5047]

What a great boat!

[@tonysimi1776]

It's a brand new Triton I'm Jealous! nice

[@lenamaysail]

Can I ask why you didn't go with a loose footed main? Great video bu the way. - kevin

[@atomvoyager]

The main advantage of loose footed is it's easier to adjust your outhaul. Being a lazy and non-technical sailor myself, it doesn't help me because I keep the outhaul tight and don't adjust it. For one thing I don't want to be fighting with the outhaul in a rising wind so I set it and forget it. Being a conservative sailor I like the way boom slugs on the foot spread the load better on the sail and boom and if you have mid-boom sheeting then with slides there is less chance of damaging the boom in a gybe. Also, if the sail is ordered with slugs then you can always go loose foot later by removing the slugs. That said, the loose footed sail has become standard and it does make it easier to install and remove the sail alone and I have ordered them before for other boats. And if a reef clew line accidentally comes off under load then there is less chance of damaging the sail on a loose footed sail if the reefing lines, or nettles, pass under the bundled sail and not around the boom. In future I may go to loose foot for most boats since the advantages for most people outnumber the disadvantages.

[@lenamaysail]

James, its been two years now, do you know if your client is happy with his sails from Far East Sails? I have ordered mainsail and am considering a new genny as well. -Kevin

[@atomvoyager]

Due to a delay in retirement the owner has done less sailing than expected but no complaints about the sails. I'd order from them again. Another low cost sailmaker friends have used in recent years with no complaints is Rolly Tasker and they have had similar price and quality.

[@lenamaysail]

@@atomvoyager I'm currently in Australia and the local Rolly Tasker rep adds a substantial mark up. With FES I can order straight from the loft. Thanks for the reply. Cheers.

[@snakeplisken4278]

So, I am wondering if I can use my removable inner stay on my Island Packet 35 (without a front boom) for a storm jib, or is it better to hoist the storm jib on another stay behind like genoa as per your video?

[@atomvoyager]

Your removable staysail stay should be the right place to hoist your storm jib as well as a working jib if you have one. The only reason I'm attaching the inner stay closer to the mast here is because it is a smaller sloop rigged boat with a short foretriangle area and it works best that way.

[@phygital1]

Excellent video!!! I like your bottom up approach and explanations based on your experience and thinking. I like the Velcro pins but have 2 questions; 1) I noticed you only have one Velcro strap per turn buckle (cleaner, simpler for adjusting). I have always been told I needed 2 (top and bottom). Is it the case or is it a more of a matter of durability. 2) are they durable and stand up to UV, and the elements?

[@atomvoyager]

As far as I can tell the only reason to use two cotter pins per turnbuckle is one for backup in case the other falls out. But since that almost never happens and it would take a long time for a unpinned turnbuckle to unwind I don't see the need. One pin stops any potential rotation. I've had these velcro wrap pins on my boat for 5 years and they have begun to show some UV damage to the outer layer but still holding. I expect you would get 5-8 years out of them in the south and more up north. They are pricey so you could make your own.

[@davidseslar5798]

Looks like lazyjacks could be useful here when reefing and there aren't any battens to hang up on them. Is there a reason they're not installed? Also, would it be practical to hoist the storm jib with the inner stay in the aft position? Thanks for sharing your work and ideas.

[@atomvoyager]

I think the modest size mainsail on this boat makes lazy jacks unnecessary for most people. The problem of an unmanageable mainsail does not really exist here. They are just more clutter aloft when there are already the three reef lines up there. The headboard might snag under their attachment point to the mast when hoisting and shaking out a reef downwind. It already can snag under the lower shroud attachments so I wouldn't want to add to that. They may also get in the way of even a battenless sail in some situations. But some sailors with this size boat do manage to use and prefer to have lazy jacks so its personal preference. I have installed a Mack Pack with integrated lazy jacks on one A30 per the client's request. With the staysail stay in the aft position the storm jib center of effort is too far aft and not enough separation from the mainsail I think. But might be worth experimenting with in some situations.

[@Yeaitstemp]

Man wish I could get you to walk over my oday 28 tell me how you would rig it and how

[@MR-yp7mu]

Are there any advantages of the fixed footed mainsail like this one vs loose footed?

[@atomvoyager]

I have a slight preference for slides along the foot because that's what I'm most used to and found it works very well. I think the slides help spread the load better than having it all on the clew and takes some load off the outhaul and boom. I'm not a sailor who fusses with the outhaul anyway but if that's what you like to do then the loose footed sail may work better.

[@azoresmarine]

Obrigado

[@rouserigging1623]

I've got a triton in need of new sails, what's your opinion on the build of the far east sails?

[@atomvoyager]

They did a good job on the few sails I've ordered from them. There was some confusion ordering a furling code 0 because they seemed not familiar with the construction options but for standard sails they were fine. It's a discount Chinese sailmaker so don't expect any helpful advice - you need to know exactly what you want. When I need technical advice I order from North Sails but they are pricey.

[@ExileCinema]

Question... What is the blue circle with the white square in the middle of it on your staysail?

[@atomvoyager]

That's an old sail of unknown origin and that could be just part of the sailmakers logo.

[@ExileCinema]

@@atomvoyager hey thanks for the reply. I've seen that on a Yankee cut sail which is why i wondered. Good to know that it serves no purpose. Thanks again.