Five 2023 KTM 890 Adv R's In Deep Sh!t - The Tiveden Adventure

With 5 KTM 890 Adventure R's, our team had fun days at the Tiveden Spring Tour 2023. Again we gathered for a ride like we did to Poland last fall. Then 5 guys with a mix of 790's and 890's, now happy campers with the refined 2023 KTM 890 Advenure R's. How did that happen... (We could call it the @biketrollhattan4412 team) Anyway, this adventure started with me and Ari-Pekka finding our route to te event thru testing a beta version of the new app stegra.io/ the route i made took us thru very nice gravel roads to Askersund and the event location. The app is actually genius for travelers that quickly want to make ad adventure route. See more on the latest episode on ‪@nordicadvtv‬ where we interview the team behind the app and walk thru the details and future plans.
At Askersund we met up with the other 3 guys in the team and as well all other adventure riders, which some where old good friends. Nice to see all again!
This video has no music since i wanted you to just experience this as is with some voice over.
I also make some comments on the Mitas E07+ tires that comes as OEM on the new KTM 890 Adventure R.
Yes, You bet we alot of fun!
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[@NomadSweden]

Great storytelling and a fun ride for sure. Didn't know you were that poetic :D FYYFF!!

[@Braapncamp]

Aaaahahahaaa, You are such an nice influencer in this case Rob 😂🙌 With out You.. i may not have tried so hard 💪😂. Thanks, see You buddy!

[@JohnDoe-xm9ql]

You Mattias... They do make paddle tires. 😂

[@Braapncamp]

Wish i had them on the mud trail part! Happy trails JD!

[@JohnDoe-xm9ql]

@@Braapncamp I would ride often in sand dunes Pismo Beach California...had cr 500 back in the day. Lot's of fun. I appreciate you making these videos. 👍

[@Braapncamp]

@@JohnDoe-xm9ql Thanks for the encuraging words. sand with a 500 sounds fun! I had a MX and enduro in my youth. A 125cc and a 250cc. Rockets for my age! I had a sand pit/quarry in my close surrounding, that was fun and a great hobby.

[@nemoltu]

At least one of the bikes deserves to be painted yellow and called a "Submarine" 😁😁

[@Braapncamp]

😂😂😂🙌 We had hoped that Johan should have act as a diver as well!

[@tracerclub]

Super, have a nice adventure tours

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! We had lotvif fun 😅😂🙌

[@MrEtnorb]

Just shows that you don't need background music if there is enough interesting footage. Adding narration works quite well as it enables you to say things that you might have forgotten at the time. It was also fascinating to hear Swedish swearing at times(I assume). There were quite a few words beginning with F and I can only assume the word meant.......Fun! Mattias, you have learnt the 1st,2nd and 3rd rule of videographers where you arrive at a dramatic sight like that 890 in the bog and your prime responsibility is to film it before helping out. It is a moment in time and will be lost without recording it first. One tip for the future, if you film with your smartphone put it in landscape mode rather than portrait mode. You show a wider field of view which would have included the other bikes and riders. I got ride of the front EO7 on my 690 before the first dirt ride.Too risky for the range of dirt we encounter. More please

[@Braapncamp]

Hehe, You are right, first documentation then help out 😂🙌 I can easily say that i hated the E07 even on loose and fresh maintained gravelroads, not only in the forest trails and mud. Thanks for your interaction and always wise words my friend!

[@tshansen]

Haha, I recognise that double doors at 4:04 🤩Hahaha, love the look on his face when he sees that you handles (rear) are gone 🤣Hahahaha they laughter when I noise dive into the pit. Hahaha, that is true friends 🤣🎥 No one helps him before we get it on camera 👏🏻nice summery of the mitas tires Tjommi... and I totally agree on your final thoughts. When it comes to mud, I'm not sure I share the same fascination as you guys 🤣🔥 Cheers buddy 🍻

[@Braapncamp]

Hahahaa, true friends knows how important it is to document the fun stuff 😂🙌 Do not destroy the scene 😂😇. I remember that You and i ate burgers at the Askersund harbor, me and Ari had pizza this time. The event was located at a hotell in town. There was a really nice pub as well in the yellow wooden house at the bridge. Recommended! Mud is fun, all the way to it comes to cleaning 😝

[@martijnmw]

Nice video, I really enjoyed!!! Although I don´t understand swedish I understood 2 things: #1 you had a lot of fun and #2 Skål :)

[@Braapncamp]

😂🙌 Approved understanding! Thanks much appreciated and encurageing. This is life 💪🤠🔥🍺🍺🍺

[@BOC_Adventures]

Amazing! That was quite a mud pit... almost like quick sand. I think that was the most buried motorcycle I have ever seen. Good stuff glad you are enjoying the 890.

[@Braapncamp]

Yes i really like the small refinements and as well the look of the new 890. I was into get a new bike and the only choises i was down to was to go lighter with a AJP PR7 or to stay in the beasty fun camp. Bikes are shiny and healthy again and the riders have great memories to laugh at. The heart of ADV! Cheers and great to have You aboard my friend! 💪🤠🔥

[@XtremeCoke]

Epic @19:00 ! Can't beat that😂😂massive fun🎉🎉

[@Braapncamp]

😂 We had a really great time there, only thing missing was that we should have Johan flying over the handle bar into the sh!t 😂😜😇

[@bikegiant1376]

Amazing ride! Getting stuck with your buddies is half the fun!

[@Braapncamp]

Indeed! We had alot of laughs between the swearing 😂🙌 As you know, we weren't talking of the fast gravel roads later that evening... Mudholes fascinates 💪🔥🍺🍺

[@Elskins]

That was an epic dive in the mud😰 Nice to see so many 790/890 platform riders in one video. But now lets focus on that LAT-SWE hockey game 😀

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! That will be the evenings beer time moment. May the best team win!

[@B.Undrum]

Legendary! ''Wait wait! No one helps him before we takes pictures!'' Haha. Ofcourse you got this on film! I was so looking forward to this after I saw the pictures of that mudhole! It was nice hearing your thoughts on the Mitas E07 tires. Cheers!

[@Braapncamp]

Haha! Thats Seb shouting behind me, and for sure as you know, I had no intention to help before documenting the situation 😂 fun never the less 🤣🙃.

[@B.Undrum]

@@Braapncamp Thats the spirit! Pictures first, always! 😆 💪🏻

[@TommyT888]

Great video...Transported me right out of my office in NYC

[@Braapncamp]

Haha thanks, happy to help You out of there for a moment 😂💪🙌

[@enduromotorradtouren]

Bike parked in the mud -> let's have a small coffee ;-) You really tested your Mitas E-07+ tyres to their (mud) limits, Mattias. Good your were in a group to help you out of the bog. Günter/Nürnberg

[@Braapncamp]

Haha i have put myself in these situations on solo rides before with my 690 Enduro, that was a h*ll of workout every time before i was on the run again. Really important to have enough of water with you then. Prost Günter!

[@enduromotorradtouren]

@@Braapncamp I always have 1 liter of water with me. But we don't have tracks so hard as you do ;-) And we're not too far from villages. In Italy/U.K. on my Beta I use a 3 liter Camelbak. Water is much more important than food. Skâl, Mattias.

[@DiegoAstorga]

Mattias, outstanding video as always. I know how you ride 😉 you will love the Mitas e07. I just bought my 4th e07+ Dakar set

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks my friend! Will keep them for ADV traveling 😁👌

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Another great adventure! 👍 Thank you for the information on the OEM tires, that is always helpful information.😊

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks my friend, days like this with many laughs is fuel to the soul! 💪🔥

[@BillCairns]

Thought you where in Scotland for a moment there..🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍😂 keep it UP..🥃🍻

[@Braapncamp]

Haha, I know that this is your favourite sport Bill. Mudholes and alot of swearing 👀😂🙌🍺🍺

[@BillCairns]

@@Braapncamp Ffs surly I’m not the fuc@ing bad😂😂👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@samhill3496]

Ain't that some shit. Up to the handlebars. Some big fun. Great comradery. No reverse? Great get together. Do it again. She said

[@Braapncamp]

Shit is teambuilding and the strong will to push thru instead of turning around. Kudos to Johan that was way ahead of the rest of us at the time he didn't hesitate. I think i had, because it didn't look that it should work 😂 and it didn't. We had great fun and only one thing could have put a crown to this fun and made us laugh even more, that would have been if Johan had dived over the handlebars as well 😂🙌 Cheers for the fun moments Sam!

[@WikstromADV]

Så härliga dina videos 👍🏻

[@Braapncamp]

Tack kompis! Den delen som vi kör i kraftledningen är lite som att kolla på #älgvandringen men lite annorlunda 👀😂.

[@WikstromADV]

@@Braapncamp haha 😂

[@kallehagstrom-adventuresincl]

Åh, det såg kämpigt ut, men skoj. Bra film Mattias! 🙌

[@Braapncamp]

Haha, där hade vi kul. Mycket skratt och skrän. Har hört någon säga dock att motorcykel skall köras, inte bäras... 👀😂🙌

[@kallehagstrom-adventuresincl]

@@Braapncamp haha…men har man burit den så har man haft skoj på vägen dit. Tror jag.

[@Braapncamp]

@@kallehagstrom-adventuresincl Absolut, sånt här lever man på en stund. Goda änner och skratt samt kul körning. Sölandet som också var kul var ju en liten del men tog lång tid.

[@bkhschoo1]

Scandinavian people, so unbelievably polite and friendly if you smack them in the face they even say thank you may i have another :-)

[@Braapncamp]

Normally something like that, but iwould not count on it to be the case. ☝️😁

[@JohnBuschJW]

were you really stuck or were you just in the mood for coffee. Sweet again, very nice.

[@Braapncamp]

Haha, getting stuck made me into the coofeetime 👀😂🙌

[@motocamel]

Nice voice over Mattias. Really adds to the enjoyment of the video. Just a quick question: aren’t you worried that your camera and lens get damaged by being directly in your new fancy mosko tank bag?

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks buddy! I have a cloth in the bottom as suspension for the cam 😁👍 Not sure though if it works over time. But my Google on the subject says nothing else than it seems to work.

[@bigswederides]

Good to see you back on the bike Mattias. My go-to tire is the Motoz Rallz as well. Pretty "adventurous" riding with those big machines. Not sure how happy I'd be with getting my Africa Twin buried like that, with another 60- 80 pounds in weight over those KTMs...would be pretty tough getting her out. The AT Adventure Sport may be a little too big and heavy that kind of exploring... Husky 701 maybe...Cheers!👍

[@Braapncamp]

This is nor for solo riding, so even a monster like the Boxer GS Adv could be cool here with a brunch of friends 😂 But is it fun? ...probably 🤣🙌 cheers Shayne! 💪🍺

[@mrflores7708]

You should watch Adam Rieman's vid on how to ride slippery terrain. It helped me out a lot. Momentum is your friend, it's just having the nerve to keep the throttle open. 😂

[@Braapncamp]

Thats the trick, not the first time I ride slipery but I seldom ride in mud with street tires. Kept it slow to see how it worked. Ofc alemways a classic misstake to get forward and control the bike, but safe. Wasn't happy with the rounded tires on gravel either to be honest. On the Dalarna video later last year i had put on my fav (TL) tires. A nice amount of "base throttle" is always a friend. Took my old "trusty" 1200GSA and hillraced up a ski slope (muddy in summer) second gear 2/3 throttle. That was medicine 👍😁. Love Adams videos and tips, this since his early days. Thanks for watching and Your constrctive commenting 🙏 Happy Trails 💪🤠🔥

[@mrflores7708]

@@Braapncamp I think you have more than medium skill. With those OEM tyres on, I think you performed really well. I would not attempt terrain like that with those tyres. Happy riding and a fruitful year. 😁🤟

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks, my conlusion on the OEM tires is that they are great for travel, i still have that set since they are in good shape, in case. No fun for the fun stuff 😅. To You as well, any cool plans?

[@sprockets_shafts]

Looks like you guys had a great rideout - I ride the Michelin Anakee Wild which covers me for everything I do over here in the UK. When I do Wales this year I will most likely go for a more agressive tyre as it will be needed

[@Braapncamp]

Haha, Yes we had alot of fun 😂. Love these ride outs. I normally use the Motoz Desert, sound like h*lll but great for the trails. But to be honest, the more aggressive tires does it best work when really pushing the riding style (often with frends). For travel, even thru mud, green Moss and sand most of these tires like Anakee Wild, Mitas E07, Karoo 4 etc. Will do great.

[@OmotardOfegante]

cool video....

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! We had fun 😁👍

[@OmotardOfegante]

@@Braapncamp these bikes are beast. I have a norden and it never ceases to impress and we do some hard stuff with them

[@Braapncamp]

@@OmotardOfegante These bikes are definitely beasts, my earlier 790R was named The Beast. This 890 is The Mistress 😁👍

[@Hammarlund_Moto]

Ser sådär lagom gött ut, härligt körning och gäng :D

[@Braapncamp]

Hehe, ja sånt här lever vi på en stund. Kul event med väldigt lättsamma förhållanden till självkostnad.

[@JoonesAdventuresMC]

your not stuck until you’re stuck, This was very convincing 😁 Interesting to hear you’re conclusion of the Mitas they definitely sounds like a good choice for my type of riding. 👍

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks Jonas! Theyare a great choice for ADV riding lite swedish and norwegian TET, continental TET as well. They are actually only limiting me on this type of rides where it gets sportier, this due to the front tire (most noticeable) rides on top of loose gravel rather than dig in and get grip. For traveling this is not really an issue. My front tire are scrap though, i hit a large stone at speed, the rim held up surprisingly, but the side cord of the front tire broke, so now i have an unhealthy "bubble" on the side wall...

[@JoonesAdventuresMC]

@@Braapncamp I guess that the riding on top rather than bites the dust also depends on the width of the tyres as well as the pattern. It’s rather wide front wheel on my bike 110/80 19, so it will ride on the surface even with other tyres I guess. 🤔😁

[@Braapncamp]

@@JoonesAdventuresMC Exactly this! Thats why all my riding buddies at this ride have changed to narrower rims as well, bot to get tube type tires which opens up for a larger range of offroad tires and makes the shape better. Actually makes a very noticeable improvement for aggressive riding in dirt. I have been happy with stock rims but with more aggressive tires as a nice do it all combo.

[@JoonesAdventuresMC]

@@Braapncamp but on the other hand with narrower tyre and more aggressive pattern comes more aggressive riding and you getting longer out in the dirt before the bike get stuck 🤔 With a less aggressive tyres you have to plan the riding more an get stuck earlier. When I was off-roading with my pick up I learned, the best way to not get stuck is to avoid the obstacles 😂

[@Braapncamp]

😂 Thats always something in that, but the narrower rims/tires actually makes most difference in normal gravelroads with a more loose surface, sand and on dry or wet forest roads. In this mud, none of the tires performes, but the better ones may give you confidence to keep momentum which gives you a better possibility to ride safe and move forward better. The better front tires narrow or not in mud gives you a better chance to not wash out the front and dive at even small challenges. I expected to wash out the front but didn't because i was too careful.

[@sauliskinnari145]

Galet! 😂👍

[@Braapncamp]

Hehe, nåt sånt 😂

[@rasmusfagerlund6694]

Haha fyfan vilket gött härj 😂

[@Braapncamp]

Det är ju sånt vi gillar Rasmus 😂 Det vet du 💪🔥 Den jäkla goa båten ställer till det ibland bara... och "Fucktrucken" 😂🙌

[@rasmusfagerlund6694]

@@Braapncamp haha ja exakt! ✊️ Men det är tur att man har andra hobbys så man kan kan längta efter lite av varje, synd bara att alla hobbys man har valt är så dyra haha 😅

[@Braapncamp]

@@rasmusfagerlund6694 ...och sommar orienterade 😅 Förutom slaskträffen 😂🙌💪🔥🍺🍺🍺

[@DMoenBC]

Excellent video! You guys had fun despite the challenges! Enquiring minds want to know, what tires are you putting on in place of the E07+?

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks, if i don't go the narrow rim way this year i will go with the Motoz Deserts. Had these on the 790R and was happy. Had RallZ before and liked those as well.

[@piotrwydmuch9413]

Hi, thank you for this awesome video. A couple of these guys are using Klim Badlands Pro gear? How does it perform in these kind of extreme conditions in regards to venting and keeping you relatively cool when sweating etc.? any opinion? please share?

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! Thats right, i have never tried the Badlands myself so i can't advice on this. But it wasn't very hot this day, actually perfect temps for active riding (or work out...) What i have seen from the dealer Bike Trollhättans videos this is explained well. Seem like the Badland has very large vents? But to me compared to my gear it feels very heavy. One of the Badlands guys in the team was definitely warmer than i in the mud 😂👍

[@piotrwydmuch9413]

@@Braapncamp thank you very much. I wouldn't be doing anything this extreme myself and mostly road and gravel touring etc. Mosko Moto is also amazing, but too offroad oriented for my riding.

[@Braapncamp]

@@piotrwydmuch9413 I had full or lets say "one piece" gear for many year si before i finally get into riding with layering system, i quickly found it as natural as it is for hiking clothing year around. This regardless of what type of ride. Mosko or not, layering is what i like and see as most rational for many reasons. What i like with Mosko is the small company, close to the customer attitude and that they really design nice gear. The luggage is just brilliant and the riding gear has refined and feels really great in your hands as the functionality. Klim ofc makes top notch gear and have layering style gear as well as the all in one function gear.

[@piotrwydmuch9413]

@@Braapncamp thank you so much. I did consider Basilisk jacket and pants as I own their Nomax tank bag and love the quality, but the thought of wearing separate body armour underneath doesn't feel like convenient thing to do especially when touring on the road.

[@Braapncamp]

@@piotrwydmuch9413 To me it's the opposite, i have a body armor that have abrasive protection as well, so i can ride with the body armor only in hot weather or very active riding. I just have a jersey over to keep the armor jacket in nice condition over time. The outer layer rolled down until i need it. It's important if you go the layering way that the protective layer is comfortable and not a stiff "plastic" one. But this is just preferences, to me it was a learning curve until i got down to layering. Some friends just like to jump in to a ready for all suite and are happy, very easy and convenient in a clothing way.

[@robertandersson2523]

Min 690 kom också med E07. Man kan ha det bak som resedäck och ett grövre däck fram. Litar man bara på framdäcket så kommer bakändan också med.

[@Braapncamp]

Ja, så är det ju 😁👍lite bett i fram gör gott.

[@thedevhow]

hi Mattias, are these narrower rims of your friends are the 2.15x21 and 4.0x18 Dirt Star wheels that come on the rally stock or something even more narrow? Stock 790/890 rims are 2.50x21 and 4.50x18.

[@Braapncamp]

At least two rides with Excel Factory Wheel sets www.ktm.com/en-se/parts---wear/powerparts/products.html?c1=1001509725&year=2023&segment=Travel&model=F9703W7&product=1003271249 and one with Heavy Duty D.I.D.

[@thedevhow]

@@Braapncamp that's much narrower than I thought, thanks especially for the link and video, good teamwork getting the stuck bikes out. MTC did a great job too getting you through, I think without it on these tires it would have been much harder.

[@Braapncamp]

Thats a good point, i actually used less TC than i should have. If i had "jacked" it down to lets say 6 or 7 it had helped me more and not rev unnessecary. The Offroad mode would actuall have been really great at his trail, but i kept it in Rally Mode with Street Throttle Response and TC 1 or 3. I really like the Offroade Mode better on this new 890R than on my earlier 8790R, better low end grunt on the 890.

[@thedevhow]

the more slippery the less MTC, 1-3 should be the perfect range for mud and sand. Maybe you could test how different modes perform, a small idea for a future video :)

[@Braapncamp]

I have done that in sand and mud before I agree on sand. 1-3. With a very short take off inbrott of uphill I deep sand. 3 was better than 1. If You have a longer take off before racing the hill 1 was as good. Have been in mud many times and prefer to crank up the TC to 7. At least to ger traction, but sometimes it's better with stability and then it's nice to spin more 😁

[@ironinfidel7792]

Thankfully your bike has a rev limiter...

[@Braapncamp]

Almost chainsaw style 🙈😅

[@davidmallia628]

You surely have enjoyed your 790's. I was wondering your thoughts on the remodelled 790adv made by cfmoto, of China. Also the new 890 Adv base model. Thanks!

[@Braapncamp]

Love it so far! feels refined in many ways. I have not even seen the new 790Adv at the dealers floor. Should be very competitive to the T7 in my opinion. Would be nice to compare it to my Adv R.

[@davidmallia628]

@@Braapncamp both the new, 2023 model year, 790, and 890 base, will not be as good as the R, off road, but would be nice for you to compare, and report. Thanks!

[@Braapncamp]

@@davidmallia628 if I get the chance and see one on the floor i will get back 👍

[@davidmallia628]

@@Braapncamp great! Appreciate that.

[@snigeln8376]

Ska man köra fast ska det göras ordentligt 😂 fasen vad man saknar enduron nu! Får se vad framtiden säger! Ha det gott

[@Braapncamp]

Köööp bara Snigeln 😂🙌

[@ManBikeSwag]

What tyres were you running?

[@ManBikeSwag]

Oh you tell us at 23:23

[@Braapncamp]

The OEM Mitas E07+ the others run on Michelin Trackers. For me this was a kind of experiment. I have been fine with tubeless Rallz and Deserts during the years on the 790R, but know that i would even like a set of narrow rims and tires better, but like the tubeless set up. The E07 is just good for travel though it's limiting when pushing it, works great for solo rides on TET!

[@McPappan]

Haha, det såg lite blöt ut bitvis där 😅

[@Braapncamp]

Ja det kan man säga, undrar hur det är där om det regnat några dagar... när vi körde hade det ju varit torka.

[@McPappan]

@@Braapncamp hade det regnat lite så undrar jag om ni hade gett er ut där? Då hade vi inte fått denna filmen att njuta av 😊

[@Braapncamp]

Man vet aldrig, vi hade kanske fåtr vända om tidigare bara. Jäkligt kul spår, det fanns ju delar med bara sand och mer fast stig innan det blev surt och sånt gillar vi (också). 😁👍

[@Tuntin4]

ÅH NEJ KUKEN! 😂😂😂

[@Braapncamp]

Hehe, inte lätt att vårda språket...

[@pedrocaballero6569]

Tienes unos amigos malisimos se dedican hacer fotos mientras tienes la moto undida Eso hay que sacarla rápido para que no entre agua luego ya os reís

[@Braapncamp]

Cheers Pedro! 💪🔥