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Five-Color Mono-Red Dragonlord Tribal | MTG Pioneer Gameplay

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@maeveballan2312
@maeveballan2312 2 жыл бұрын
Seth: maybe the card that requires us to have artifacts is bad Seth: *sideboards magda out in every matchup*
@DimbyHero
@DimbyHero 2 жыл бұрын
This why the mana system and color pie are so elegant: 30 years later, we still see White Weenie versus Red Dragons, and it's still a compelling match-up.
@megapixzel
@megapixzel 2 жыл бұрын
I was sad they scooped, I wanted to see the carnage of getting an exerted glorybringer every turn. What does mono white even do about that?
@goreobsessed2308
@goreobsessed2308 2 жыл бұрын
​@@megapixzel whits got plenty of removal these days
@jjohansen86
@jjohansen86 2 жыл бұрын
Around 47:40 you could have targeted the Arcanist with Redcap Melee instead of the Swiftspear and gone to 1, keeping the ability to copy Goldspan. Weirdly, with the opponent playing an extra blocker, the fact that you drew Magda would have been relevant, as you would have ended up with exactly 5 treasures and needed to tutor up Atarka to remove the blocker.
@Zepplin1395
@Zepplin1395 2 жыл бұрын
Temple of the dragon queen seems awful if the only off color cards are dragons. More secluded courtyards and/or the Ixalan one seem better if dragons are the only non-ref cards
@BobertJoe
@BobertJoe 2 жыл бұрын
I mean maybe, but a good way to think about it is a Pathway. except 5c. And pathways are pretty good.
@Zepplin1395
@Zepplin1395 2 жыл бұрын
What does temple help cast in this deck that secluded courtyard wouldn't? Two courtyards could be a dromoka one turn and a silumgar the next, all without the risk of entering tapped.
@zackestin1368
@zackestin1368 2 жыл бұрын
Dragon queen can still cast early red spells which is really important, unclaimed territory and courtyard as a 2 land hand is way worse than temple and courtyard.
@AricHaldan0782
@AricHaldan0782 2 жыл бұрын
you can already see the bonus of temple being able to pick red in match 2.
@thecrazycapn
@thecrazycapn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm often a little sus of the ramp Magda, but in the Boros Heroic matchup he was beautiful with that rarely seen tutor ability. Beautiful.
@josephbischoff8917
@josephbischoff8917 2 жыл бұрын
I think having a couple Thunder Break Regents would be good as a bridge to goldspan and others cause it’s a 4 cost and if they target it they get domed which changes racing situations
@Vancity3
@Vancity3 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, as someone who plays dragons in Pioneer I'm confused as to why you wouldn't be playing 3 mana Sarkhan or Orb of Dragonkind?
@TheKilskast
@TheKilskast 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm the original builder of the deck. This was a first draft, so it now looks alot different, but the main problem with orb is that you can't cast removal off of the mana. Alot of the deck isnt actually dragons, so orb is really awkward. I am actually trying out sarkhan again now, but the general idea was the same. The "experiment" was to only run ramp that could be used for other utility as to not be clunky.
@bryanleblanc5648
@bryanleblanc5648 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah as rabbitz said, orb was pretty hype when it came out but ultimately it isn't very strong, especially outside of standard. We have plenty of better fixing in lands (especially tribal ones) in pioneer, and orb is also a target for removal like portable hole and prismary command. Orb is probably best in commander or brawl where it's a 2-drop mana rock with payoff if you draw it late game, but it's not fast enough for 4-of in pioneer
@kjubon8888
@kjubon8888 2 жыл бұрын
Seth is of fire with deck building lately, I just finished 12 Shadow and now we get this deck, give me a break :D
@maechael-ns1xe
@maechael-ns1xe 2 жыл бұрын
The title kills me... And the deck kills opponents.
@michaellogan2780
@michaellogan2780 2 жыл бұрын
Title is a node to an old standard deck called five-color blue dragons from back in the Khans era
@maechael-ns1xe
@maechael-ns1xe 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaellogan2780 indeed
@MidgarMerc
@MidgarMerc 2 жыл бұрын
40:50 you could have attacked, made the treasure then used it to shoot the blocker, if they have protection you bonecrusher it in response
@SuenteusPi
@SuenteusPi 2 жыл бұрын
Seth is trying to make his Haven of the Spirit Dragon speculation finally pay off
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the worse one, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon...
@jaded718
@jaded718 2 жыл бұрын
Game 2 against heroic you could attack with magda, make a treasure, bonecrush the doublestriker, then sac the treasure to bonecrush it again when they play the protection
@Deargo_Prime
@Deargo_Prime 2 жыл бұрын
I love Dromokas thumbnail art. She looks surprised and confused to be here.
@fo-ef8qo
@fo-ef8qo 2 жыл бұрын
any 5 color mono color is an instant win in my book
@Pixelatedude6
@Pixelatedude6 2 жыл бұрын
is this the deck that's gonna finally spike all those Haven of the Spirit Dragons seth specced all those years ago? 😏
@drewgartner8725
@drewgartner8725 2 жыл бұрын
Seth, this was so so sick. I would love to see a stream or something where you put the patented saffronolive tune on it.
@zackestin1368
@zackestin1368 2 жыл бұрын
At 40:30 it is absolutely correct to swing with magda and dragons fire at instant speed into stomp when they go to protect the virtuoso, no clue why you constantly forget Magda is your ramp card this entire video honestly, especially cutting her in matchups that if you get to 6 mana you basically auto win.
@jordank7250
@jordank7250 2 жыл бұрын
Fair critique
@zackestin1368
@zackestin1368 2 жыл бұрын
Same match later you literally blocked a creature with trample with your lethal threat when you 100% had to cast the redcap anyways, ending with 5 life instead of 3 against a deck with no reach, costing you the match in both games.
@elesh.n
@elesh.n 2 жыл бұрын
Literally came here to say this
@tygonmaster
@tygonmaster 2 жыл бұрын
The Timmy in me is happy to see big dragons resolve.
@kylarcheng1346
@kylarcheng1346 2 жыл бұрын
Match 3, is it worth blowing up the dreadhore whatever?
@ColossusCo
@ColossusCo 2 жыл бұрын
I think strangle would’ve been better than voltage surge every single time lol
@cha0sniper
@cha0sniper 2 жыл бұрын
34:13 hellooooooooo confirmation bias :P
@coreysierchio4650
@coreysierchio4650 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of "Mono White Door To Nothingness" from MTGRemy. Also, I've seen the scry bug in table top play. (Hey, didn't I just mulligan this card to the bottom?) *Thanks for the Content* !
@billiumdollars
@billiumdollars 2 жыл бұрын
I just can’t get enough of SpbkaSO :)
@rynestone1379
@rynestone1379 2 жыл бұрын
The punt is an acceptable one. Even with how many times I've cast it, sometimes I just blank and assume it's CMC not power too.
@syklonic
@syklonic 2 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't Dragonlord Kolaghan in the deck as a 1-of? 😢 It seems better than Tiamat as a 6 power haste that potentially turns off a bunch of spells, right?
@jms4979
@jms4979 2 жыл бұрын
Re: the "mulligan bug" conspiracy theory, here's how to think about it: I can't count the number of times I've seen you keep a 7 card hand and say something like "This hand is fine, we don't really want CARDNAME in our opening hand, but I think it's still a keep", and then T1 you draw a second CARDNAME. And all the jokes about "okay, we drew CARDNAME tron, we might be able to cast them _eventually_..." It's really the same thing, if you think about it, you just didn't tuck the card. The Magic gods screw us over all the time, don't invent modo conspiracy theories for what is clearly just supernatural intervention :D
@dracish123456789
@dracish123456789 2 жыл бұрын
if only dragon hoard was an artifact. Then maybe voltic could have helped
@fromadhdtodndtomtg
@fromadhdtodndtomtg 2 жыл бұрын
"Well, we will keep this. We have magic the gathering cards." LOL
@jo4ogameplays
@jo4ogameplays 2 жыл бұрын
The second match was insane
@ZeroIsEven
@ZeroIsEven 2 жыл бұрын
Great matches … seems there there were some times Seth could have used Kiki in different ways to make treasures by copying Goldspans
@latinkingzgl
@latinkingzgl 2 жыл бұрын
The intro broke my heart again but maybe Sunday....
@Soulryu11
@Soulryu11 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the saltiest I’ve ever seen Seth. Like I honestly believe his hate for companions is worse than Tron.
@BobertJoe
@BobertJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Im disappointed that you didnt jam kolaghan, at least into the sideboard. Cmon, eat up those combo players.
@89crooker
@89crooker 2 жыл бұрын
could you not on the turn vs heroic attacked with goldspan and the token to make a 5 treasurers and then play the dwarf to get a dragon from the deck
@22sfs22
@22sfs22 2 жыл бұрын
As a wise man once said "if you are at 1 life, you are good to go. Anything above is too much"
@cedricwestcott1852
@cedricwestcott1852 2 жыл бұрын
This sparks joy
@danielarola1981
@danielarola1981 2 жыл бұрын
Love the theme of this deck
@caleb7882
@caleb7882 2 жыл бұрын
Fires if Invention might work here, then you could play moar big dargon
@michaellogan2780
@michaellogan2780 2 жыл бұрын
the use of treasure and dragon hoard dampen the power of fire of invention
@aidancockroft88
@aidancockroft88 2 жыл бұрын
The red player was really good. Showed us why aggro decks can be very hard to play there.
@psychotropican666
@psychotropican666 2 жыл бұрын
sure Seth, it's Slumgar, just ignore that "i"
@willyoriley374
@willyoriley374 2 жыл бұрын
At 45:00 shouldn't you have Redcap Melee'd the Swiftspear while opponent was tapped out?
@testthewest123
@testthewest123 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder why you don't play the Dragon ramp Sarkhan...
@grubgobbler3917
@grubgobbler3917 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing concept!
@azza002
@azza002 2 жыл бұрын
Back during Dragons of Tarkir standard there was a similar deck going around but it was blue based instead of red.
@Icenri
@Icenri 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was my Count Dankula feed.
@michaelp5712
@michaelp5712 2 жыл бұрын
Fast and Bulbous!
@3meiguri
@3meiguri 2 жыл бұрын
Budget Dromoka deck when
@zerorequiem42
@zerorequiem42 2 жыл бұрын
I like dragons.
@andrewcolton7430
@andrewcolton7430 2 жыл бұрын
For the algorithm great games
@Jesin00
@Jesin00 2 жыл бұрын
The first timestamp is off by about 3 minutes.
@michaellogan2780
@michaellogan2780 2 жыл бұрын
punt!
@Dragiceoriginal
@Dragiceoriginal 2 жыл бұрын
Hey the chapter time stamps are wrong - Match 1 drops you in the middle of the game
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 2 жыл бұрын
Oops, I'll double check it.
@Nrdyco
@Nrdyco 2 жыл бұрын
In the intro.. who were the actors labelled as 'pioneer players'... I recognize one of them and I can't figure out from where
@broganwalker4167
@broganwalker4167 2 жыл бұрын
I would guess you recognise Tom Hopper, who also plays Luther in the Umbrella Academy
@Nrdyco
@Nrdyco 2 жыл бұрын
@@broganwalker4167 YEEESSSS THANK YOU
@goelandz878
@goelandz878 2 жыл бұрын
Timeline is slightly screw up for match one at least ;)
@wilson_brito
@wilson_brito Жыл бұрын
Deck tracker?
@littleguy8
@littleguy8 Жыл бұрын
RIP DRAGONLORD KOLAGHAN 💔
@itze_
@itze_ 2 жыл бұрын
Slum Guard?
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo 2 жыл бұрын
It's really funny to watch seth fixate on a single card being all the problems. I mean fable made a must answer body and rummaged for two, fires allowed the opponent to cast far more than they had the mana for, but Yorion is a companion.
@leonardbreaux3156
@leonardbreaux3156 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yes 5cd
@skylarsannes3547
@skylarsannes3547 2 жыл бұрын
I saw five color mono red in the same sentence and got very confused.
@Grandeathknight
@Grandeathknight 2 жыл бұрын
"we're doing mono red" has more than just red.
@person3176
@person3176 2 жыл бұрын
What's the reason for playing with Temple of the Dragon Queen isntead of Unclaimed Territory ?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 2 жыл бұрын
The main upside of Temple of the Dragon Queen is that it helps us cast our non-Dragon spells, since we already have Haven of the Spirit Dragon (which is basically an Unclaimed Territory with upside for Dragons) playing Unclaimed Territory too might leave us with too many lands that only make colored mana for Dragons.
@person3176
@person3176 2 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish but it's a mono red deck! the green or blue mana that temple makes can't be used to cast your other non dragon spells, and if you put the land on red then you're gonna struggle to cast your non-red dragons. land bases are always hard though.
@lushG678
@lushG678 2 жыл бұрын
Tiamat has to be cast and has to etb for the ability
@nicholasleyden2120
@nicholasleyden2120 2 жыл бұрын
The first time stamp for game 1 is super late, like halfway through the entire bo3 match late
@KebbieG
@KebbieG 2 жыл бұрын
What a weird time for a video to go up.
@hydra66
@hydra66 2 жыл бұрын
You should have said spoilers. I haven't got that far in GOT yet
@derek61806
@derek61806 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@30LayersOfKevlar
@30LayersOfKevlar 2 жыл бұрын
Slumgar. The i is slent.
@notmason7728
@notmason7728 2 жыл бұрын
for sure missing 3 mana sarkhan
@thewarlord2798
@thewarlord2798 2 жыл бұрын
What is he playing on?
@KarmicMishap
@KarmicMishap 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean what program is he using? Magic Online, the predecessor to Arena.
@tkalle1299
@tkalle1299 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Strangle used over something like Lightning Bolt?
@Samst0n
@Samst0n 2 жыл бұрын
Many reasons, number one being bolt isn’t legal in pioneer.
@LadyMapi
@LadyMapi 2 жыл бұрын
I'm torn. Part of me wants to see Widespread Thieving in this deck for the memes... but then the rest of me smacks me over the head and reminds me that the only multicolored cards in the deck are pricey dragons.
@twb2837
@twb2837 2 жыл бұрын
!punt :)
@stuvius
@stuvius 2 жыл бұрын
Super sweet deck but good god I hate companions so much lol
@gradis13
@gradis13 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what?
@alphonse2234
@alphonse2234 2 жыл бұрын
Threw against heroic
@Zombi3NinjaKing
@Zombi3NinjaKing 2 жыл бұрын
!punt
@Lxwlyfe
@Lxwlyfe 2 жыл бұрын
early this time love the content
@matthiascronqvist13
@matthiascronqvist13 2 жыл бұрын
You know your third game against heroic really bugged me. You gave up based on the idea that they had another godswiling without playing it out to just find out. That last could of been anything but you took as the one card that could of beaten you. Which is just grating my nerve.
@hernansanch
@hernansanch 2 жыл бұрын
I was the heroic player. He was dead. Arcanist gives flasback to the gods willing and is unblockable
@randomstuff403
@randomstuff403 2 жыл бұрын
Crap like the companions is exactly why I will never play magic again.
@shadowisp
@shadowisp 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who likes to play dragons a lot. I believe seth gets lucky.. alot. Dragons are usually very bad against top decks. it's frustrating. big cool dragons, just not good enough.
@Silas_MN
@Silas_MN 2 жыл бұрын
in the future, could you maybe skip the games against companions? not because I dislike companions, but because I'm really tired of how you react to them
@dbuck8781
@dbuck8781 2 жыл бұрын
First
@dbuck8781
@dbuck8781 2 жыл бұрын
Meant to be, love me some dragons
@fromadhdtodndtomtg
@fromadhdtodndtomtg 2 жыл бұрын
I HATE companions... ugh. C'mon WOTC.
@alphonse2234
@alphonse2234 2 жыл бұрын
Way to make it a lot harder for yourself by not reading your cards. Should have lost. Never punished.
@Karthedis
@Karthedis 2 жыл бұрын
Wow the third match was played so poorly. Should have been a win, but nope, wanted do die so badly I guess.
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