I'd like to say "thank you very much" to whoever drew Voja for the thumbnail of the video. Great work
@hablasetacobell6 ай бұрын
His name is Adriano Kitani and he does all the Goldfish art thumbnails, he's great
@clintcook86916 ай бұрын
I swear the “best deck in standard” changes every video 😂
@thatoneperson96196 ай бұрын
That's how you know it's a fun standard lol. No oppressive meta yet.
@lelandgill36316 ай бұрын
Well if you run jank like Seth, every other deck in the format is the best by comparison
@S4DC4T6 ай бұрын
@@thatoneperson9619but there is tho, it might not be the same deck but it’s always sheoldred and graveyard trespasser and tenacious underdog
@brettgrossman11136 ай бұрын
Have you played standard recently lol? Domain and convoke are much better than generic black midrange piles@@S4DC4T
@blackiscolor77326 ай бұрын
There’s usually just a couple “best deck in standard”s
@derelict8446 ай бұрын
"Hold me closer, Fleetfoot Daaancer..."
@epothos16 ай бұрын
🎶🎵Count the blockers on the battlefield🎵🎶
@epothos16 ай бұрын
@@brackish2386 you sure about that?
@joshuajordan66326 ай бұрын
I would also add that Roaming Throne triggers Ward 3 TWICE. So good luck killing Voja
@charlied82846 ай бұрын
Nope
@wha7does7hefox996 ай бұрын
@@charlied8284Ward is a triggered ability so it will be doubled if Roaming throne names wolf
@Cheerwine0916 ай бұрын
@@brackish2386Unstoppable Force vs (near) Immovable Object
@alwaysplaythegame6 ай бұрын
Somewhere Crim is rambling about how everyone needs to be playing Void Rend
@KarmicMishap6 ай бұрын
I like to think that the ambitious card designers at WotC watch these videos and cry tears of joy that someone has noticed their neat little card.
@bensteinhauser7846 ай бұрын
Missed win at 30:45. Instead of flipping up Voja and disguising Brazen Upstart, instead, put a counter on each color creature, then flip up Voja and attack. It would have given exactly 2 more damage.
@tristian25986 ай бұрын
"opponent on mobile and arena crashing" so many games lost to needing to respond to a text and arena freaking the fuck out, or it bugging out and forcing me to restart and never loading, terrible mobile app with a great game slapped on it
@bensteinhauser7846 ай бұрын
Every time I hear "This is great aside from how it lines up against Sheoldred [in combat]" I question why Sheoldred is a 4/5 instead of a 4/4.
@davidhansen50676 ай бұрын
Siege Rhino 2.0, in every way. 😹
@THELASTMASTA6 ай бұрын
Insane how pushed Voja is for commander. It's a craterhoof that draws you cards and has ward in your command zone.
@Asageun6 ай бұрын
Ive played it. On lower tables, it can get out turn 3-4, then things get really bad. It did not need ward 3
@devinayaz92106 ай бұрын
i still hate the fact the entire meta is revolved around "is there a sheoldred"
@koolaiddude76858946 ай бұрын
I promise youll be okay
@pug87146 ай бұрын
@@koolaiddude7685894 And I promise it's not the healthiest state a game can be in
@evankraabel54156 ай бұрын
it really doesnt, sheoldred isnt even played in most decks that can cast him. Like, the esper deck in match 1 very likely had 0 sheoldreds, or max 2.
@koolaiddude76858946 ай бұрын
@@pug8714 youre reallllly trying to pretend it is warping a format, and it's just so far from that 😂 it's a strong mythic that slots into any black deck. Nothing more
@pug87146 ай бұрын
@@koolaiddude7685894 where did I say it warped a format? I didn't? Oh
@kelvinliu-huang59556 ай бұрын
34:49 does Seth not realize Glissa beats anything in combat??
@CupOYerba6 ай бұрын
And destroys enchantments.
@vanblod93386 ай бұрын
Yeah, I wouldn't have scooped until they showed some removal personally.
@Gowdy5916 ай бұрын
@@ther3aper561Can't block with the lands though, since Loamspeaker animates them at sorcery speed. Without losing the loamspeaker blocking, he'd take 14 next turn, then another 10 the turn after.
@ther3aper5616 ай бұрын
@@Gowdy591 oh my bad, I didn't realize it was sorcery speed. Thank you for clearing that up!
@Atmapalazzo6 ай бұрын
What I learned this week is that the werefox are elves. Took me awhile to figure out why, but that is neat.
@JonaxII6 ай бұрын
Why are they? I mean, okay, they said the werefox are elves, I got that, but you telling me there's a deeper reasoning behind that?
@Atmapalazzo6 ай бұрын
@@JonaxII long story short a bunch of elves are cursed by a witch, and turn into werefox.
@dinnerpartyempire6 ай бұрын
just like werewolves are like a human-wolf thingy, werefoxes are elves with the curse of foxness @JonaxII
@sammybanger856 ай бұрын
I took your Doppelgang deck from a couple weeks ago and added one card... Mirror Box. Holy hell it makes it so much better!
@jarvvoitlus94586 ай бұрын
when he was being smug about voja being unkillable against the esper deck i was expecting the surprise Void Rend so hard
@Muongoing.97c6 ай бұрын
Not every esper player is crim.
@Shimatzu956 ай бұрын
@@Muongoing.97cOnly about 70% of them are
@crazyvikingboy28566 ай бұрын
I always get obliterated by Voja commander decks on arena and paper
@kalebgray10506 ай бұрын
Voja is *extremely* annoying on brawl. Basically a 5 mana craterhoof if you played an elf every turn.
@coreysierchio46506 ай бұрын
I remember when there wasn't continuous preview season & Seth would poll the audience on what he was going to play for "Against The Odds." Not like I can remember what's legal in Standard anymore anyway, lol. *Thanks for the Content!*
@ther3aper5616 ай бұрын
I feel like the scoop against boros was a little early. Having a glissa and plenty of lands to throw in front of a bunch of x/2s is fine especially cuz you're drawing live for fleetfoot dancer and voja. Now if they draw removal that makes sense but otherwise going to 9 and waiting another turn is probably fine
@adamkleber43556 ай бұрын
I think you punted at 30:45 - if you wait until combat, use vannifar to pump your face down Voja and the other disguise, then flip up Voja before attacks with the extra counter, I'm pretty sure you have exactsies
@nbmbruh6 ай бұрын
Love watching you beat standard meta decks. Hate to see everyone run the same stuff.
@goomshill6 ай бұрын
I've been playing voja elfball for a week or two, and I found with all the sweepers and fast boros decks the best/only way to really win was go all in on early elves. Turn 3 voja is possible with stalward/cultivator as 1 drops, gala greeters/loamspeaker/break out as 2 drops. Visionary feels great at drawing cards or building a board of power/toughness in the absence of voja, but boy does trying to build up a board with visionary get blown out by every sweeper. But a turn 3 voja wins just about every time, and Break Out actually digs deeper than storm the festival to find it and only 1 mana less to cast both
@JonReid016 ай бұрын
60 card right?
@goomshill6 ай бұрын
Yeah in a standard list like this, just lower curve@@JonReid01
@Bigd2k6 ай бұрын
27:30 maybe thinking to small. But wouldn’t a first striker work good with treacherous greed? If it goes unblocked good if it’s block just cast greed in between first strike damage and the rest of damage step.
@plantoth6 ай бұрын
Treaturous greed could be super interesting with first strike, or double strike. You get in the first hit, have dealt damage so you can sacrifice it before regular combat takes place. Definitely an interesting card.
@StevoM086 ай бұрын
We’re going back to Lorwyn in 2025. Voja’s definitely gonna get some love.
@davidcrawford53245 ай бұрын
That triple monstrous rage draw was SUPER sus....What are the frigging odds they pull that many in 1 or 2 turns even when they have 4 in the deck??? That match was FILLED with jank on that red deck
@JRBissett6 ай бұрын
Again, Void Rend stock going WAAAAY Up - Crim has been right all along
@Alexander-rk4cu6 ай бұрын
the moment i saw the core card, i thought: Damn, this would work well with maskwood. but sadly that rotatet out :(
@person31766 ай бұрын
i love fleetfoot dancer. when i was new to magic, 5c humans was the top deck in modern and i really liked the deck. never played it due to the cost but i always looked up to it and it inspired me. One of the best cards in the deck was mantis rider, and fleetfoot dancer reminds me of an elf variant of it. Easy to cast due to the tribal mana base and a powerful haste threat. love it.
@evankraabel54156 ай бұрын
If youd blocked with upstart the first time in G2 vs mono red, youd have been at 7 on the turn you conceded, not 2. That is very likely enough to sur vive until dancer comes down.
@logaf946 ай бұрын
I really feel like being able to consistently play removal is more important than vannifar lol
@rosavanopheusden52116 ай бұрын
seth could've won the first boros game by having vannifar place counters instead of cloaking for no reason, and flipping the voja after that ability resolved
@crapparc6 ай бұрын
Voja is pretty good in Brawl. I enjoy playing him, especially since he lines up so well with elfball.
@dede_art6 ай бұрын
I see him a lot on historic brawl and he really hard to interact with, you need to kill it on sight or he take over the game in 2 turn. The ward 3 is really rough but turn it to a elk in one game.
@123silverslash6 ай бұрын
This video just convinced me that any control deck with black needs to be running Blot Out because my god
@TheQualcunaltro6 ай бұрын
I had totally missed Voja and company were legal in Standard.
@jankspanking88366 ай бұрын
I versed a voja deck in a four player edh game, they did end up winning after we board wiped six times during the game
@Shimatzu956 ай бұрын
I say they hit the sweetspot with ward 2, anything more is pretty much functional hexproof.
@TheREALTheRealAdam6 ай бұрын
Personally, I'd have tried to include at least a couple of Cemetery Prowlers: pseudo-mana dork if there's a creature to exile and makes Voja draw 2 cards per swing. And it's somewhat naturally beefy
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle6 ай бұрын
Voja is my favorite craterhoof-lite
@BeaglzRok16 ай бұрын
Yeah, and it's technically on-flavor so it doesn't feel weird to be like "yeah Elf tribal totally, just ignore this random beast that's just objectively good"
@cuddlequeen32256 ай бұрын
Ive been thinking about this maybe as a commander/brawl deck. Glad to see you bring your spin on it
@Kazooieandbanjo6 ай бұрын
Missed Lethal at 23:29 by not using the Werefox to clear the blocker before going to declare blockers step
@sapphiredraggytheflygon85216 ай бұрын
This meta is gonna burn when Thunder Junction comes out and mono- red becomes the best deck in the format
@GandoTheBard6 ай бұрын
Hillariously Ive been running my own domain voja deck in Standard yesterday and today and then I see this video and had to go watch this.
@GandoTheBard6 ай бұрын
My version does something a little different (really fairly different) running 3x each of Ossification and Buried in the Garden which are fetchable with Kellan, the Fae-blooded. I also added in case of the shattered pact and leyline of the guildpact plus leyline binding. And roccos for late game voja/werefox out of nowhere.
@GandoTheBard6 ай бұрын
Deck 3 Buried in the Garden (MKM) 191 2 Kellan, the Fae-Blooded (WOE) 230 5 Forest (DMU) 281 3 Ossification (ONE) 26 3 Case of the Shattered Pact (MKM) 1 3 Leyline of the Guildpact (MKM) 217 2 The Kami War (NEO) 227 1 Mountain (DMU) 280 5 Plains (DMU) 277 4 Leyline Binding (DMU) 24 3 Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer (SNC) 218 2 Voja, Jaws of the Conclave (MKM) 432 1 Fleetfoot Dancer (SNC) 188 1 Yenna, Redtooth Regent (WOE) 219 3 Werefox Bodyguard (WOE) 39 3 Gala Greeters (SNC) 148 1 Nissa, Resurgent Animist (MAT) 22 1 Gwenna, Eyes of Gaea (BRO) 185 1 Meria's Outrider (DMU) 138 4 Jetmir's Garden (SNC) 250 1 Ziatora's Proving Ground (SNC) 261 1 Raffine's Tower (SNC) 254 1 Xander's Lounge (SNC) 260 1 Spara's Headquarters (SNC) 257 1 Hedge Maze (MKM) 262 1 Elegant Parlor (MKM) 260 1 Underground Mortuary (MKM) 271 1 Meticulous Archive (MKM) 264 1 Lush Portico (MKM) 263 1 Tolsimir, Midnight's Light (MKM) 236 for the curious. :D Yes I know the numbers are odd but this is for Play not Ranked.
@JonReid016 ай бұрын
@@GandoTheBard woah this sounds crazy do you have a list
@swampybwoy6 ай бұрын
ALWAYS keep attacking with the life linker against mono red
@raynmanshorts92756 ай бұрын
5 color elves is one step closer to monored elves.
@JonReid016 ай бұрын
Hopefully
@thekornknownasme6 ай бұрын
would love to see a Timeless or Pioneer version of this deck
@David0906J6 ай бұрын
I always know there's a new video once I run into the same deck 3 times on Arena 🤣.
@SilverWolf3406 ай бұрын
Unfortunate that werefox body guard isn’t a wolf lol
@wilberthandreymora52706 ай бұрын
i really really REALLY RREEAALLYYY REEEEAAAAALLY REAAAAALLY REALLYYYYYYYY Want the miniature Voja image you used in this video :C
@DOLOTread6 ай бұрын
Does he actually run the best deck in standard lmao I’d love to see him running the meta His game knowledge is next level
@donovanulrich3486 ай бұрын
😅 elfs are over powered I used to run standard and modern in 2012 My buddy had to spend 200$ to counter my unlimited elf combos 😂😂 and only won. . . . If I decided to stall the game to long for fun 😂
@Mulletdog16 ай бұрын
Voja’s got that Dog in em
@DragonAttack5156 ай бұрын
I think void rend is nescecarry with all those ward creatures in the format
@rookermtg93216 ай бұрын
What the heck? Werefox Bodyguard is an Elf?
@matushorvath6 ай бұрын
Voja more expensive than Tarmogoyf, what a world we live in!
@tacoriley58366 ай бұрын
Where’s the expedited inheritance combo deck from the short?
@JonReid016 ай бұрын
Does he steam on twitch?
@michaelburt98886 ай бұрын
I’ve been running into Voja lots in historic Brawl, turn 3 or 4 Voja is an absolute menace
@Temurmemer6 ай бұрын
Voldaren Epicure and Archangel of Wrath both technically work with Treacherous Greed. Not sure how good 4 mana deal 4 gain 3 draw 3 leave behind a blood token is for 2 cards lol. Or 9 mana deal 7 gain 7 draw 3 for 2 cards but those are possible scenarios.
@ther3aper5616 ай бұрын
36:30 Seth really forgets void rend exists, especially against the esper decks
@SomeFreakingCactus6 ай бұрын
16:52 Doesn’t Fleetfoot Dancer give us a reasonable chance to stabilize here?
@hydra666 ай бұрын
and here I am, not aware that voja exists until Seth drops a vid
@mattgraham90456 ай бұрын
Secretly every deck is the best deck in standard right now according to Seth
@DavyMcWavy3 ай бұрын
Deep-Cavern Bat should just be called Booger.
@fredt19836 ай бұрын
Start: "Wouldn't this get *destroyed* vs the decks we see ad nauseam like mono red and counter everything...?" Finish: "Yup..."
@kirbi2006 ай бұрын
I think fauna shaman in this deck it is amazing
@kristnicholson34016 ай бұрын
Voja in Pioneer??
@koolaiddude76858946 ай бұрын
Pleaseee do against the odds with Trecherous Greed next!!
@e4jasperi6 ай бұрын
31:34 that boros matchup was so close!
@lordmeep58036 ай бұрын
14:51 bro scooping early like he’s clocking out of a 9-5. Play it out! You’re close to dead yeah but come on dude you’re scooping against mono red while you’ve got a 4/4 life linker and 2 removal spells in hand
@lordmeep58036 ай бұрын
That next scoop, very fair. Mono red is a little silly goofy sometimes
@rupert75656 ай бұрын
Only 1 basic? Those greedy magic players.
@JonReid016 ай бұрын
LOL
@NightdrifterDK6 ай бұрын
This deck looks sweet
@crayyonnyadrav40556 ай бұрын
What happened to all these characters that had legendary companion tokens? Ragavan gets a broken card, Voja is kinda strong... What Companion Token do we get as strong card next?
@ruudvanlaarhoven57766 ай бұрын
Karox Bladewing, the token you make when you kick Verix Bladewing Stangg Twin Guennhwyvar, companion of Drizzt Do'Urden (D&D) Cherubael, from Inquisitor Eisenhorn (Warhammer) Boo from Minsc and Boo (D&D) We did already get the powerful Ashaya too, from Nissa Tiny, from Sophia, Dogged Detective Ravage and Laserbeak, from Soundwave, Sonic Spy (transformers) Keimi, from Tatsunari, Toad Rider Are the possible next ones I can find
@JonReid016 ай бұрын
@@ruudvanlaarhoven5776 awesome research thanks for this
@joebob74836 ай бұрын
How is this “against the odds”? These are some of the most pushed cards in recent sets.
@JonReid016 ай бұрын
Because it's 5 colors
@micalwarren98205 ай бұрын
When I play MTG Arena on phone, tablet, laptop, or my desktop, I disconnect on them all, no matter what. I think it’s just MTG Arena
@reggiejarvis48146 ай бұрын
Please brew an explorer version
@davidcochran69746 ай бұрын
Someone who has voja or the wildcards: citinal stalwart on 1, courier briefcase on 2, voja on 3. Seems decent?
@luizaugustopaivabatista34686 ай бұрын
Could you try it on Pioneer or Explorer, pls? :)
@logaf946 ай бұрын
dang its too bad that guy was playing the best deck in standard
@Gizmosurfin6 ай бұрын
As a mobile player, my game crashes alot.
@quintenhaire10376 ай бұрын
Getting stomped my mono red isn't fun to play against, let alone watch you play against. At least the matches don't last long.
@SACH13L6 ай бұрын
Any reason not to play crown-leaf visionary?
@Oceanz086 ай бұрын
the one thing seth does that annoying is when he plays against a common meta deck, he claim its the best deck in standard lol. Esper Midrange is not, cause last video he played against Boro Convoke and said the same thing.
@enmanuelrondon97006 ай бұрын
Seth is predicting the most likely thing seth would say next to say
@crazyvikingboy28566 ай бұрын
23:23 missed lethal by not using the fox on the Tomik. Though, OP could’ve had removal but you always make them have it!
@the_gentleman_crow97726 ай бұрын
Tolsimir is better than u think is u can make them have to block the voja token with their biggest or scariest creatures and it has lifelink
@the_gentleman_crow97726 ай бұрын
Also I like rocco that fetches a creature
@Tyranzor646 ай бұрын
This deck is super annoying to play against. Thanks MTG Goldfish
@evilmonkey21846 ай бұрын
Seth consistently mispronouncing cards is got to be a meme at this point. At least this one is understandable, however Voja should be pronounced like Voe-Ya
@JonReid016 ай бұрын
It's too bait engagement in the comments
@evilmonkey21846 ай бұрын
@JonReid01 everytime he does it my hackles raise up in discomfort, it's the confidence he does it with that kills me inside. truly a master baiter
@alaraplatt81046 ай бұрын
lol, boo and hiss at you
@adamtobiasz87936 ай бұрын
I can diabolic edict Voja or sword it for 4 or just void rend it. There Voja caca.
@princememphis77266 ай бұрын
I killed a voja in command i think. Jyst make you sacrifice
@MWTan-nr6zl6 ай бұрын
Seth doesnt believe in void rend
@robertk18346 ай бұрын
Ward is way overused lately imo. Anything Ward 3 and above is effectively Hexproof in terms of tempo/gameplay. Ward 1 should be baseline, requiring a resource investment to interact with, Ward 2 for things you want to have an impact as a Designer. Ward 3 is such a huge resource investment (most removal is 2-3 cmc) that as a player, you're effectively Time Walking yourself to spend 5-6 mana interacting with a single permanent. Oh and if you miss a land drop, you could be sitting there with 4 mana sources, a removal spell, unable to interact because of Ward 3. Fun. edit: Hilarious to see Seth come to the same conclusion at around 10:18
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle6 ай бұрын
Counterpoint: void rend
@robertk18346 ай бұрын
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle lol that's.....one card, of a specific deck, with triple pip requirement That would also validate how meta warping Ward can be, if you require specific deck construction methods to counteract it.
@ashtonwestfall47776 ай бұрын
@@robertk1834to be fair in this case 5mana to remove a five mana creature is still a lot more balanced than hexproof or even shroud
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle6 ай бұрын
@@robertk1834 Esper control is a pretty popular archetype that would probably play void rend even without ward. Vindicate that doesn't hit lands is still pretty darn helpful
@kaedox6 ай бұрын
wards formula seems to be generally cost-2 on big legends, which makes sense when the idea is to make the mana investment to remove it more closely match the mana invested in it
@dero43786 ай бұрын
good boy
@rykx0r6 ай бұрын
I liked it better when Arin Hanson did it.
@averymorley23986 ай бұрын
Sunfall dot format 🙄
@Tiax7766 ай бұрын
Red aggro is so well balanced. Truly magnificent. When Richard Garfield developed the game, he knew there was a reason for summoning sickness and giving players proper dual lands. It's so fun when opponent goes first and you can play two tapped lands and you're down to 10 or 11 life on turn three.
@yomomma18856 ай бұрын
Bait used to be believable
@JonReid016 ай бұрын
Skill issue
@rubensmith7766 ай бұрын
Voja is only good in casual commander. It's nothing short of terrible in cEDH, just play Rocco, Minsc or Pantlaza.
@ColossusBall6 ай бұрын
plz saff my wildcards, think of the wildcards
@TrackMouse346 ай бұрын
Always love when Seth builds a deck around a card and then doesn’t play the card when he has the chance. I get it might not be optimal but Voja is why I’m watching the video, play the Voja. This happened with the slime against humanity video against the rat colony and persistent petitioners decks