Five Finger Death Punch break up?? 013 Tilburg 12-06-2017 fight between Jason and Ivan

[@BeePss]

I don't know if anyone noticed, but after Jason leaving the stage he also threw a glass on stage that shattered into pieces (2:15). Someone was very pissed..

[@BeePss]

Watch it in HD on full screen 🙃

[@waterproof4403]

yeah i saw it

[@EliasFuksodi]

ja jammer dit..... it's a shame, Jason was really pissed (I think I would be too), I hope Ivan gets better and they come together again.

[@waterproof4403]

what really happened?

[@joshuavilla5978]

Guys nothing happened Ivan just left so he can get his things straight and will come back with ffdp

[@Cxrinae]

I can understand why Jason would be so frustrated with Ivan... But god damn, there's no way I'd throw any of my guitars like that, let alone a 5k Gibson custom shop 😂

[@ericgreen8082]

Dudes got money, i dont think he cared at that point lol

[@morejake0391]

We’ll be gets em for free because their his signature guitar 😂

[@prisonfood42]

He wasn’t frustrated with Ivan, he was frustrated with the behind the stage crew, they gave him the wrong guitar as well as started the audio way too early, hence why they were scrambling around to start the song

[@danataylor-fifield7719]

@@prisonfood42 correct. I believe Zoltan confirmed this a day or so after this show, and I also believe the guitar Jason was given was in a different tuning that was needed for the song

[@gamay9515]

Anyone saw that boi in the circle pit doing a freaking backflip 3:40?

[@dca01]

Behemoth That was a friend of mine hahaha

[@gostar121]

Behemoth yeah, I was standing right next to him

[@ricklubbers1526]

Behemoth What circlepit?

[@ericbajorek7247]

Behemoth I

[@jenshendriks9092]

WOW A BACKFLIP!!!!! HOW SPECIAL 0_o

[@Preacher0117]

Guys, y'all don't have all the information just yet. Jason threw his guitar on the ground because of electronics in his guitar were not working properly or his whole amp set up was messed up, and from how he acted, its happened quite a bit, so he got mad and threw his guitar. Ivan was late because the sound guy started the intro music before he was supposed to and the band members were not ready so they rushed on stage. Ivan wasn't late, the sound man messed up a lot that night. Also the singer, Tommy Vext, who came on stage to take Ivan's place for the first song is from another band and simply wanted to help since the start of the show was a mess. As soon as Ivan came on stage, Tommy left the stage so the band could continue. You can imagine that Ivan was upset seeing that his band had started without him with a different singer on stage. It was a bunch of miscommunication and technical issues which caused the show to end early. Ivan will hopefully be back soon to continue his role in 5FDP

[@meticana26]

Your wrong after all

[@kevinwillson341]

Yeah, I get that you're a fan but that's not what happened

[@fupaking7717]

Sorry kid but that isnt the case at all

[@coryw8364]

PREACH!

[@morejake0391]

I just found out reasons Jason was mad. The sound guy started the show when nobody was ready to start so that's why Ivan didn't come out till half way through Lift me up when he realized it started. Ivan had ear pains, Ivan was going back to rehab, and they kept giving Jason the wrong guitars.

[@Th3M4larky]

Damn the crew messed up big time on that.

[@johnmccarstle3647]

Did anyone see the guy do that sick backflip in the circle pit?

[@morejake0391]

I really hope going to rehab again helps Ivan because this is my favorite band and this is terrible what's happening right now. The alcohol is really hitting Ivan right now.

[@wv-fisherman5049]

More Jake03 been sober for more than a year and currently recording and 8th album they’re at there peak

[@stephendre2902]

If this is your favorite band that’s sad

[@PaithanXOX]

We were there and asked the people of 013 if there were technical failures. There were no technical failures. Jason was very angry about something. There was a new dude, I think his name was Simon or Tommy. He sang the first part of the first song and he sang it very well. Moody and `Simon or Tommy.` sang the third song together which sound really nice. I wish they sing in the future all the songs together, that would give the band extra power. Moody and Chris sing ok, but they could use some extra support. The band played a song or two and went off the stage. They went on and off the stage multiple times. It ruined the whole show. Jason trew at one point his guitair of the floor. In the end Moody had to do all the acoustic songs alone. The public was very forgiven and relaxed. Then the whole band stayed away. It was Chris who said goodbye to us. It was one weird 45 minutes of WTF. We saw the setlist. They played the whole setlist. Acoustic songs only partial. So they had already decided before the show to give a short show. They gave on Pinkpop a short show too.

[@NeoTyhaich]

The guy is Tommy Vext (Bad Wolves, ex-Westfield Massacre/Divine Heresy).

[@live.shows.260]

PaithanNL Tommy is bad ass check out bad wolves.

[@PaithanXOX]

Hey, Saw Tommy monday. The show was great! Still I think Moody is the best for this band. Cheers!

[@TheZach600]

Pinkpop was only a short show due to terror threats I heard

[@545coolkid]

Pa

[@andrewsinclair5899]

Dat that backflip tho lol

[@bobthebuilder9376]

Andrew Sinclair ikr

[@dh6565]

I will never understand why this band is as big as they are

[@Holyhesk]

Brilliant performance of Burn MF even though the band was on a rocky spell. Ivan and Jason have soo much talent. Whatever happened they need to be like brothers and carry on. 5FDP wouldn't be the same with Ivan or Jason gone. Kick ass band if I ever I saw one.

[@jessekiiskinen5838]

4:50 Ivan singing "nothing you can teach me" while pointing backstage to who i assume is Jason...

[@autobot8732]

It sounded to me like Ivan wasn't really putting much effort into this performance , and obviously Jason realized this. Ivan must've been doing this for a while, and maybe Jason was finally tired of it.

[@alejandrosolis2029]

According to their website they will continue with the tour. So, I guess they all can sing in chorus "I Apologize" during the upcoming shows.

[@VarietyMusicLover]

2:00 Jason snapped Ivan like WTF?

[@ColinTheGamerReal]

Honestly they're sick of his shit at this point, they need to drop him. He almost ruined their last tour, luckily Phil Lamonte was there to step in.

[@jason8304]

I think Ivan just needs to go to rehab.

[@davidh4648]

I think Tommy Vext is better for them any way

[@krystoftrnka974]

Colin The Gamer I have read somewhere that he is addicted. I saw good people act like total douchebags and idiots when they where addicted. But when they have fought their way through the addiction they became the same good person as before. So I say, let him fight the addiction and don't judge him now.

[@meta1gear4]

It's shit like this that gives Metal a bad name. If bands can't keep their shit together live, they simply shouldn't perform.

[@meta1gear4]

Amen brother!

[@morejake0391]

meta1gear4 Well everyone is dealing with Ivan right now. It's hard because Ivan is an alcoholic and he just got back back from rehab and he's going right back.

[@Vandarius]

Thats not the whole story. Their sound crew fucked up BAD. They sent them on stage before Ivan even got there, so Tommy had to fill in really quick. They also gave them the wrong queues, guitars, etc. and shit and thats why Jason snapped because everything went wrong.

[@bikerssuckass8158]

meta1gear4 stfu.

[@bikerssuckass8158]

Vandarius That's false.

[@benaantje9365]

they just announced there will be a free show this Monday same place

[@waterproof4403]

2:00 i felt sorry for Jason but does anyone know why all this happened?

[@Reevesss]

Wrong Turn either Ivan was drunk and was pissing him off, or the crew fucked up and started the show early and giving Jason the wrong guitars. I have no clue. All I know is Ivan is going to rehab

[@Visidium]

I wonder if Jason's sound was cut off? I don't see why he would've been pissed off otherwise.

[@jason8304]

Bingo.

[@fallennate]

it looked like he tried a few chords, made no sound and was like fuck it, it's monday

[@PsychadelicWolf]

I remember something like this happening in Memphis, except a lot of the crowd was drunk off their asses. It was after Breaking Benjamin and started almost immediately after they left, maybe they were rushed too? But shit didn’t start happening til Ivan promoted a book one of the band members write and the guitarist walked off? Then Ivan has to sing acapella because both the guitarist and the drummer walked off for some reason. On top of that the speakers kept fucking up and the microphone kept going in and out. I felt so bad for Ivan. He may be a dick but he was trying his best to calm down a drunk and angry crowd. And they all just left after 4 songs of nothing working

[@benbray4982]

The fuck is going on with the band. Shit like this makes me not wanna go to their next tour. I don't like my job most the time but I don't slam my shit around at work and storm off. Nor do I turn up late... I mean maybe sometimes but you don't turn up bang on the time you go on stage. Must be shit for Chris and Jeremy who seem very chill all the time.

[@freezadehopson4231]

Ivan has been in and out of rehab lately and was having ear pains Day of, and the show was started before anyone was ready so Ivan didn't even realize it was on until he came out

[@jessiewalker6918]

Seems to me he was having sound issues or a issue with his guitar, I don't see what Ivan was doing causing that reaction, unless they got into it backstage before the gig

[@Crullors]

Chris and Zoltan seems very professional on stage. They kept the show going, after the incident. I can only say that Jason became so much more Rock n Roll, after smashing a guitar on stage. That was so awesome. :)

[@bobbymcgovern2362]

if they were your favorite band you would know that they aren't breaking up

[@michaelbell75]

Good thing they have 2 guitar players. That would have been really awkward lol

[@kiwixxscopes7485]

Anyone hating on them or Ivan or Jason realise the anger was caused by technical engineers the show was started to early hints Ivan showing up late in lift me up then you can visually see Jason having guitar problems and looking back stage,then when nothing was done to fix it he threw the guitar and walked off Ivan didn't know exactly what happened so he got angry for Jason doing it it wasn't Ivan nor Jason this band gets way more hate than deserved

[@deaddenied92]

all the fans that saw the show should get their money back

[@benaantje9365]

deaddenied92 there will be a free show this Monday

[@deaddenied92]

nice thats good to hear :)

[@whalfar1561]

Where is the fight???

[@nirvwana678]

neeeeee ik moet ze nog zien bij graspop 😭😭

[@lost619]

I feel like I missed something!? did he just throw his guitar in a tantrum? Or was there a reason because I saw no fight or anything leading up to it!

[@PandaSundays]

Come on guys they are still together and that’s what counts! I just saw them two weeks ago and they were amazing! Ivan was going through some shit and he seems like he’s doing a lot better!

[@Dino-vu8jk]

what song was this?

[@dokterkarel]

RIP Gibson explorer

[@johnness9891]

I'm not a Professional Drummer..Would love to be..But I've played for Many years and Stupid Shit Happens Sometimes.. But it's ALL ABOUT THE SBOW AN THE FANS..AN WHEN YOU GOTO A 5FDP SHOW..YOU GET YOUR MONEY 💰 WORTH..THEY KICK ASS..CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY COME BACK TO NORTH CAROLINA..DEFINITELY GOING TO SEEE THEM..ROCK ON 5FDP. FOREVERMORE

[@KillertoneLabs]

Their album sound is SO much better than this live show.

[@Reaper-b4s]

Zoltan doing double duty lol

[@___Ra_Ge___]

all gonna be ok. nothing to worry about. 5FDP have a great time in The Netherlands and te rest op Europe

[@Hoopclipz69]

Where they fighting in the crowd

[@Th3M4larky]

Man those guitars i bet are expensive :/ sucks to throw them down like that.

[@TeaRexTheMighty]

I noticed something like this on Norway Rock 2016 as well. They were late on stage, the show was fucking bad as shit, and they ended the concert 20 minutes before their time. They were the highlight of the festival, and they fucked it up.

[@Reevesss]

TeaRex I don't think it was them that fucked it up, it may have been the crew. For that show and this show

[@ludicrousgaming1657]

TeaRex the band just plays, the crew should have guitars tuned amd working, mic checks bass check, the crew does that shit, they just play for us, thats how it goes

[@AnotherFontenot91]

My husband I went see them last year for their tour in 2016 with Shinedown and SiXXAM. Luckily, it was their first show of the tour so Ivan still had his shit together. We were fortunate to get a full show with no issues but their performance was the worst.. SixxAM did an awesome job and Shinedown completely STOLE the show. Brent Smith is just an incredible performer and really connects with the fans. Once FFDP finally came on, they were good but I was so sick of the walking off stage, coming back. Talking too much instead of singing. This band is going to end up becoming nothing more than a memory if they don't start straightening up.. It's sad because Jason, Chris, Jeremy and Zoltan are extremely talented. Ivan has great vocals but he needs to get his shit together. They need to stop touring if they're fighting this often and if Ivan keeps relapsing. Shinedown is still doing shows this year just like FFDP but they actually care about their fans, and don't halfass anything. Perform or get off the stage and stop wasting peoples hard earned money.

[@Kapricorn]

its good to know that this shit happens to the best of them

[@smokeythefox1078]

I hear Ivan struggles with addiction. Could that have something to do with it?

[@jamestrevino3124]

Trucking Gamer it supposedly was

[@Blue64]

Trucking Gamer yes watch the new video from rock feed

[@jaunathang]

See the drama at 2:00. You're welcome.

[@Locallybuiltauto]

Holy shit are you from the future? It's only July 2017!!!

[@ludicrousgaming1657]

MrPikapka i know right, wtf this is supposidly from december haha

[@jaredgreen2405]

MrPikapka it 6-12 not 12-6

[@fopwerf]

day, month, year, so this happened the 12th of June 2017

[@nikklazz]

Why was he so pissed?

[@zacharysluder2249]

IVAN DON'T LEAVE

[@shawnpetersen9195]

He has drinking issue I'm a recovering addict and alcoholic he is going through rough time he is wasted all the time.

[@jessiewalker6918]

Nevermind, I saw a clip of what happened earlier, now I see why he is pissed

[@wazxvicious75]

why did this happened in my country

[@erics.9935]

This bands like the icp of metal.

[@rich8063]

Never knew you could fight ahead of the date

[@НикитаБорисюк-г1ю]

Ivan жалко...Хрен знает, он скорее всего ,и виноват...Но по всей видимости, его не всегда понимают в кругу.5fdp Лучшие!

[@filivriman]

Ivan was experiencing severe pain in his ear(s) thoughout the show. That would be the reason they went to the backstage for some time between songs. They were not fighting although I don't why Jason lost his shit

[@Meurth]

Looks like the guitarist got mad because the drummer couldn't keep the rythm properly? But a lot of things probably happened before that

[@ludicrousgaming1657]

Meurth there was a whole bunch of technical issues and it seems as though ivan was a little tipsy and he lost track of time

[@thetruebatman8522]

They did something similar in memphis. Why are they all so salty

[@roddanglin9345]

I wish they were good.

[@skeeterwayne9743]

They ain't breaking up. Ivan needs to get help then they'll be right back.

[@batman13823]

Why were they even fighting?

[@ivanmoody7417]

I honestly dont know what his problem was. I asked him backstage but he wouldn't talk to me. He still wont tell me why he did that today. Sometimes I really dont get him. Sorry!

[@eccentricvince1564]

@@ivanmoody7417 :/

[@seanfinn44]

Jason looks so badass when he did that I don’t know why lol

[@jenshendriks9092]

I didn't even see a fight. Jason, come on. Could you not stay on stage till the last song and then leave angry? Also give the guitar to the fans. Better than destroying it....

[@VarietyMusicLover]

what happened? i thought Ivan and jason were good buddies?

[@740.streetwearssupportchan6]

VarietyMusicLover you idiot they got in a fight because Ivan have him a dirty look, the bands off, Ivan quit

[@VarietyMusicLover]

i'm an idiot because i don't know what happened? your a class act man

[@aaronb1185]

тίR Ŧ๏אเc No, actually you're the idiot look at there facebook page jackass.

[@urszulakosiba6687]

Do not ask why, Why do you need it?🎆🎆🎆😍😍😍🗽🗽🗽

[@shawnpetersen9195]

Band getting tired don't know what he will do.

[@jasonsteele3673]

Dude has some issues. It's my favorite band but Ivan is struggling. After the my mom died deal last year now all this. Maybe it should be over. Sadly.

[@eppicninjabunny]

too bad that a great evening ended up like this, although I did not have any complaints about the quality of their performance. It is more about the quantity

[@bjorndc]

No i think jason had technical difficulties and Threw his guitar away.You can see he was trying things whit his guitar..It did not work and he was getting angry.

[@eppicninjabunny]

I was not talking about this moment but more as a whole

[@bjorndc]

i understand but i think it had to do with all the technical things..

[@eppicninjabunny]

oh no not at all. Ivan came too late and the others were mad about it. Besides that, it's all over the news. They were fighting backstage and they quitted after 40 minutes of playing.

[@ryanwilliams4223]

its like buying jafa cakes and someone has already ate 15 of them right ?

[@americancapitalist2962]

I think like many bands they seriously need to take a break.

[@TwohandsStruggler]

seems so they already have a new singer...

[@ethanbaker4813]

god i hope jason is ok as well as ivan. i dont want them to drop jason.

[@360nododo7]

Kinda sad i hope they dont i was at the concert also i was one off the youngest there but its my fav band i hope they wont they should keep making people enjoy listening them

[@kidthunder1311]

The bass and drummer were the only ones showing any energy imo

[@supermarkmoo]

Tbh id react the same fuckin way if I'm performing on stage and the roadie gives me guitar that isnt tuned correctly and the amp is not right its the roadie and sound engineers job to ensure that shit is on point

[@vader97100]

What happened was Ivan got drunk and lost track of time, then of course you know the rest.

[@barbaravance6774]

I just wanna know Why Jason was SO pissed off!

[@BradyStudios97]

guitar techinal issues. gave him wrong guitar

[@ctiproductions2017]

Looks more like his guitar fucked up on him and that pissed him off

[@davidpemberton5561]

Having deja vu watching this... is this a rehash of burn it down?

[@jamesgentry13]

im guessing they are pissed at Ivan and he's left to go to rehab?

[@soteful6788]

All of their songs are good but are all negative in nature. Being around that night after night can have a psychological effect on some people.

[@jamieblandon2647]

The guys are just tired of Ivan's shit

[@ludicrousgaming1657]

Jamie Blandon ivan went back to rehab so hopefully it will help him, dont think down why tf are all of you guys thinkig ivan ks shit, and also ivan was having severe pain in his ears so its kinda hard ti live eith that i can say that from exprmerience,

[@pp-uh3281]

Guess they didn’t break up

[@ademkonjevic]

If I was Ivan I would be like stop stop for a second and say hold on everybody just to check if Jason was ok and give everyone in the crowd a heads up and then resume the show but he was drunk at the time or was confused so he didn't know he just went with it like um ok wtf wtv I'll let Jason be😂

[@sulekova6682]

2:00

[@Jolien_birbwhisperer]

The whole music industry seems to be plagued with drugs and alcohol. Have you read the interviews by now? Ivan Moody fell off the wagon again. We all know how most of our favorite legends have died, after all. I don't care about my fucking money. I don't care about the reputation of the metal music industry. I care about their well-beings. I'm worried about Ivan Moody the same way I'm worried about my mentally ill friend. Tommy Vext had to come up stage on Graspop this year to tell us that he replaced Ivan temporarily because he was sick. The interviews appeared on social media. He overdosed on alcohol. Who knows what'll happen next. Seems like way too much people have their heads up their fucking asses here. You care so much about your money? Or about the reputation of Metal? Don't spend it on things you don't actually value and talk to your fucking therapist because nobody gives a shit about anybody's reputation, frankly. It's not like we like in the 80's or something. Next thing you might know is "Ivan Moody dies because of alcohol abuse" running the headliners and I bet the same damn people complaining now would throw a fucking pity party, claiming they're so struck by his death. Such fucking low-lives.

[@davidsoriano9825]

another Pantera ending

[@natalym.6880]

O melhor mosh de todos ♥

[@jimbobtheimpaler8403]

Its the "Guns N Roses" syndrome.....

[@tylove7992]

Except Guns N Roses were good.

[@littlefoot-runner1263]

what did I watch😭😭come on jason

[@jason8304]

Why are you blaming Jason? His sound was cut off! It wasn't his fault!

[@aydensmith2602]

yo I was there it was a great first concert

[@moshpitrob305]

Wish i wa sin that put

[@oli-pr1xl]

fack man why its the best band ever

[@andrewworman1200]

Ivan is going to rehab

[@andrewsinclair5899]

He was pissed because Ivan gave him a dirty look

[@jason8304]

Nah man, technical issues. The tech crew REALLY fucked up for this one.

[@andrewsinclair4636]

Andrew Sinclair I heard a lot of things. Some say it was the sound guys fault other people say it was Ivan's addiction.

[@forfunchico]

kijk eens naar freak fight fame mma

[@bobbymcgovern2362]

and Ivan is coming back , ffs , people are so stupid

[@pantarei8382]

They play great, get another lead singer.. He is not good

[@fluffyreaper2006]

done

[@m.g.6917]

next week Slaaayyyerrr 😁 watch Kerry king tear the place down!!! BREEK de hele tent aaaf

[@rasmuswellejus2809]

Guitar smash!

[@1TDH3]

Where's the actual fight? This is lame clickbait.

[@HUsyn6661]

there's no physical fight lol it was arguing and a lot of things going on, don't take it so literal

[@1TDH3]

Don't take it so literal??? I want 5 minutes and 17 seconds of my life back which I wasted watching the damn vid waiting for a physical fight. Clickbait is a very serious matter!!!😂😂😂

[@HUsyn6661]

a fight can be either verbal or physical. what's your point?

[@1TDH3]

Dude it's a fuckin' joke. To put it into your words 'don't take it so literal'.