Five Ten Freerider VS. Ride Concept Hellion - Watch BEFORE You Buy!

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

What shoes do you wear out on the trail? Do you think mountain bike specific shoes are overrated? Let me know in the comments below!

[@willbros1499]

Nice video...well done. I think the one missing component here is the long term review of the sole. The 5-10's will start getting chewed up after about 3-6 months depending on mileage. You alternated, which limited their use, but the soles won't last nearly as long as the RC. It's very frustrating, because the older gen 5-10's soles would hold up forever, and the uppers would fall apart before the sole failed. Now, you can have an upper that looks great, with tons of life, but the sole will have holes so bad that the pins poke through. They changed around the time Adidas purchased them, and they've never been the same since. i think they determined that they were too durable, not being replaced often enough, and lowered the quality or changed the compound of the sole intentionally. I think you buy the $100-$150 5-10 shoes now, with the expectation that if you're lucky, you get 6 months out of them. You used to be 3 years, so it's sort of hard to stomach.

[@silascatalano9491]

I where 510s

[@frankapple4130]

I really like the specialized 2FO

[@imstupidnotdumb2005]

I just wear vans

[@jacques6281]

My foots wider as well,, I typically wear an 11 in Nike & 10.5 in Vans ultrarange , looking to get a 5/10 Freerider ,, are they a wider shoe?

[@saddlesdownmtb3134]

I have both, and the Ride Concepts run small in both width and length. Like you, I hoped they would stretch after a few rides, but never happened. Ended up having to give them away. However, they are a good quality shoe and have more protection on top than the FiveTens.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

💯 agree

[@iandonnelly2]

I run a size up on my RC shoes.

[@DaStuntChannel]

Same thing here, I had a pair of RC Livewire and same sized Helions fit small in width and length

[@legweg5748]

Excellent review, I also own those 2 pairs of shoes, and I agree with everything said in this review 👍

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

Thanks mate!

[@SlowpokeShred]

Fantastic comparison video. I really appreciate the camera work and variety of shots/voiceovers. On the shoes, my complaints with the five tens echo the drawbacks you mentioned, most annoyingly, the amount of junk that winds up in my shoes while riding. Regardless, sounds like they're the best pick of these two for my feet. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I wish five ten would pick up a couple of the features of the ride concepts or vice versa and make the ultimate shoe! Till then I’m sticking with the five tens too

[@hillmakeitbetter]

I love my FIVE TEN FREERIDER DLX model shoes. They have a closed toe box that keeps water out & is not too hot in the summer.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I had a pair of those and the uppers ripped at the toe box on the same spot on both shoes after a couple of months. Hope yours hold up longer!

[@hillmakeitbetter]

@@MtbFrequentFlyer That's a bummer & sounds like a warranty issue. Mine have been great for over a year with about 700 miles on them. Creek crossings and puddles demand that model for me.

[@mtbrider8286]

Specialized 2FO and RIME 2.0 Those are my 2 favorite shoes. Keep your feet dry and super grippy. Also, they have a lace holder loop.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I wish five tens would adopt the lace and tongue holders on the shoes like ride concepts! I am gonna have to try the 2fos !

[@mtbrider8286]

@@MtbFrequentFlyer I promise you won’t be disappointed lol. Love the content, btw.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

@@mtbrider8286 Thanks mate!

[@darrylreed9676]

The Ride Concepts Hellion (pronounced hell yun) are a nice shoe but the Hellion Elite are in another class and they blow the Freeriders off the trail!

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

Will have to look into them. What makes them better than the hellion?

[@darrylreed9676]

Better rubber, better fit and more protective.

[@Henry_Schroeder]

I ride with the RC Livewire and couldn't be happier with them. They are just as good as any Five Ten shoes I have owned in terms of grip. I'm not sure what the difference is between Hellion and Livewire as the main features all seem to be the same. I am in South Africa and Adidas no longer bring Five Tens in, so we do not have much of a choice any more. The downside here is the cost - we pay the equivalent of $160 for the Livewire and $215 for the Hellion.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

Dang that’s some price gouging!

[@xjry]

Nice vid! I just recently picked up etnies culvert MID, love them!

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I haven’t tried those but might just have to give em a shot!

[@codybales7087]

I have a pair of FiveTens that lasted under a year. I have massive holes in the heels made from simply walking in them. They are super comfy and grip like nothing else but are not durable enough. I work a full time job and raise a family so I don't get to ride anywhere as much as I want to so I can only imagine how short the lifespan of the sole would be if I rode everyday. I'm currently in the market for a new riding shoe and will probably try out the RC's.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

They seem to have a good durability to them I just wish they fit me better

[@darrylreed9676]

The Ride Concepts Hellion (pronounced hell yun) are a nice shoe but try the Hellion Elite, they are in another class and built to last!

[@masongorski7845]

I just bought the RC Vice and I’m hoping they last longer than my old freeriders, since I got a massive tear down the outsole after 4 months

[@keninva]

My Five Tens are holding up great after 9 months of riding, doing about 75 rides. Comfortable and grippy.

[@codybales7087]

@@keninva glad they are holding up for you! Unfortunately that wasn't my experience. I'm not counting them out completely but I am definitely exploring my options.

[@mtbboy1993]

I think the shoes you show have the DST 6.0 HIGH GRIP rubber, which is not grippy enough I agree, even with Catalyst pedals with long pins, but the 4.0 Max Grip on the newer model is, I have 2022 TNT, they grip well. As well as Freerider. I've not tried the Hellion yet. but Size 44 2022 TNT fits me well, same fit as Size 44 Five Ten. They fit me well with and without Space Brace 2 ankle braces. But 2021 Hell cat were too snug at the ankle, heel area, so they could be painful if the plate in the brace was not perfectly aligned, even so not optimal, and they were difficult to put on.

[@charliehicks2554]

Nice review. Unfortunately none are wide enough for me.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

They need to make some shoes with wider feet in mind! The freerider pros are too narrow for me too

[@dk.650]

Same issue here.

[@silascatalano9491]

You need to come back to Blankets Creek they put a new jump on the Holler.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I am actually planning on doing a whole edit on the holler soon!

[@silascatalano9491]

@@MtbFrequentFlyer Nice

[@AtomicPunk67]

Five Ten Freerider Pro FTW.... I had the RCs but too narrow after a long ride. Otherwise it is a nice shoe.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

Gonna have to try the pros again but I ran into them being a bit too narrow too 🤷

[@DMMTB]

Interesting that the RC’s don’t fit your feet as I too have wide feet and they feel great. Good comparison Caleb 🤙🏼

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

Thanks mate! Yeah I wanna run the freerider pros but they are too narrow as well

[@DMMTB]

@@MtbFrequentFlyer I became aware of my wide feet at about 20 when I played high level soccer and I was buying boots to fit my length but that meant my toes we getting squashed together and a podiatrist told me to buy for width and although the length would be a little more than ideal it would be better than squashing the toes and getting sore feet. Obviously you would find a wide shoe model but possibly a size or 2 up. So thing to think about

[@vicgeier3482]

I wear 14W shoes and the Elites are fine

[@Kschmenk]

The freerider pro sheds water better than the freerider. Have the box toe and all the benefits just a different material if you need better water shed.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

They felt too narrow much like the ride concept hellions

[@drappennen5704]

Hey dude. Thanks for the comparo. Did I miss anything in regards to sole stiffness? I like my 5Ten Impacts because if I’m a little off position say to a fast chattery section it pretty much don’t matter where my foot is on the pedal. It feels solid if you know what I mean. I am keen to explore other options though which is were your vid here helps. Cheers from Australia.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I’d say the ride concept hellions have more stiffness than the freeriders but less than the impact pros

[@drappennen5704]

@@MtbFrequentFlyer that’s exactly what I would need to know. Thanks!

[@gregmccandlessmusic]

I've got the Five Ten Trail Cross XT and the grip is incredible plus they look cool. But, the stretchy bootie thing doesn't keep out pebbles nor does it provide ankle support. So I'd get them again but in the mid.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I’ve yet to try the trail cross by five ten. Are they are stiff as free riders?

[@gregmccandlessmusic]

@@MtbFrequentFlyer I don't know I've never used freeriders but I doubt it. I think the trailcross ones are supposed to be more stretchy for trail hiking use.

[@mtbboy1993]

How is the breathability? Have you tried the 2022 and 2023 models? how does the breathability compare to Freerider?

[@mtbboy1993]

Does the tongue open up more than on Ride Concept Hellcat? I think it's too tight on the Hellcat, even without ankle braces, it's really tight, I have to use my use my finger as a shoe horn. but it makes them stay on without or loose laces.But not a pleasant experience to put them on. Freerider High was much more breathable, Ride Concept Hellcat don't do a good job at keeping you cool, so nto optimal for summer use, but they do have some air flow on the sides, but on the top I can only feel the breeze if I tilt my shoes down. They are not perfect, nor were the Freerider, but breathability was great, I could feel a breeze, so never got too warm in the summer, and putting them on was very easy with ankle braces, as the tongue opened up enough. no need to use the finger as a shoe horn.

[@Epluribusunom6166]

5/10 all the way any day!!

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

Love em!

[@DrewPBalls69]

I just got the ride concepts and like them

[@mctg9043]

how's it been going?

[@nathanielrainey5771]

I weat innov8 shoes, which are a good flat sole fitness shoe. I am looking to upgrade to a pure mtb shoe, like the idea of the reeridrr pro.

[@bautistabernertdiaz2308]

Do you think that I can use this shoes just to go to the school or to go party?

[@bautistabernertdiaz2308]

because I'm not a bike rider but I like how the shoe looks

[@danieltobias8373]

The Free Rider Pro's are even better!!

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I run into them being too narrow for my feet like the hellions actually

[@mtb_noobie1230]

I wear Skechers. I really wish mountain bike shoes would come in wide

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I hear ya and feel your pain!

[@MrBikegaucho]

If I were to purchase both…. Would I get the same size or go up a half size in the RC?

[@boydcrowder4436]

How about summer heat? Looks as though the RCs will not breath much?

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

I didn’t notice a big difference in ventilation but I would imagine since they are better water resistant that comes with a price.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

Love the justified reference for your KZbin name btw!

[@boydcrowder4436]

@@MtbFrequentFlyer Raylan Givens would have been too obvious :)

[@mastajogurt7520]

Hi, what flat pedal shoes would you recommend for a whole day (100 miles) XC/Trail trip?

[@sheldonupthegrove7822]

I have Ride Concepts Powerline. I too wish I could get them in 4e. I have to buy up a size because of that.

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

Yeah I tried sizing up but it started getting clown shoe feeling lol

[@YoMumzinnit]

Bottom line for me……500 miles on 510’s and 18 miles on RC………. The 510’s look new with untouched buttons but the RC are chewed up from the pedals…AND the RC run a full size small for 2022. RC look like “grade school” or “toddler” shoes, they are very round.

[@flintmcmanly]

That would be "Hell-yen" as in, my kid is a little hellion.

[@minnkonamike6658]

RC Vice

[@MtbFrequentFlyer]

Have yet to check those out

[@scottpolacek2116]

Its Hell-yun not heely on