Fixing A Poulan Pro Blower That Won't Start, This Was Not Expected

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Thanks for watching. This blower has fuel, spark, and compression but it still won't start. Fortunately, I found a good reason why it might not be starting.

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@garyalensr
@garyalensr Жыл бұрын
A real shop??? HG you have way more than enough knowledge and skills to get this blower up and running!!! You are the reason I'm able to fix my equipment. Can't wait for the next upload. Excited to see this blower in action
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
lol.. I appreciate that, and yes, the second part of the video is being produced right now, and will be available sooner than later
@threebushykin
@threebushykin Жыл бұрын
Make it a long video I like those
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
a regular video takes about 10 to 14 hours to make, so a long video would take over 20 to 30 hours. I simply don't have that sort of time and that's why I try to keep my videos from being too long.
@threebushykin
@threebushykin Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel Thank you for explaining this I appreciate it.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
no problem, and thanks for understanding
@ericrichardson3332
@ericrichardson3332 Жыл бұрын
I don't mind longer videos either , I know editing takes a while though so it's all good multiple shorter videos or one long video doesn't matter as long as we get to learn something new and or see how things work we are happy and keep up the great videos
@daniel_xxdannyxx7344
@daniel_xxdannyxx7344 2 ай бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel you should make a playlist for certain things ie blowers, mowers, trimmers, etc. That would be awesome for me personally because I watch your videos at night
@carlrussell89
@carlrussell89 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! A neighbor was disposing of one of these blowers because it wouldn't start. I had no experience with small engines, but I thought that with the help of videos like this, I might be able to fix it. I picked it up, and after looking it over, I decided to replace the carburetor. Ordered a new carburetor with fuel lines, fuel filter, air filters, spare primer bulbs, and spark plug. Replaced everything with no problems, but still no joy. It would hit even with starter fluid. I pulled the muffler and looked at the ring and thought it looked okay. Put it aside for a while, then looked again and decided the ring might be stuck. I figured that I had nothing to lose at this point, so I disassembled the blower and engine and found the ring was indeed stuck. I broke it while trying to free it, so I cleaned the grove and piston while I waited for a replacement ring. I installed the new ring, reassembled the blower, and it started right up! 😂 Thanks again for posting this and giving me the chance to learn/do something new!
@356Rover
@356Rover Жыл бұрын
One of your best videos - it's nice seeing an uncommon diagnosis
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thanks
@terry987654
@terry987654 Жыл бұрын
One thing to do is check continuity of the lead of the ignition module with a multi meter and move and pull the lead around while doing it and see if there is a break or loose connection somewhere. I have been caught out with that before where i checked for spark it was fine but when i plugged the lead back into spark plug i had nothing because of the way the lead was bent over to attach to the plug and i couldn't understand why it was not starting. It's not a common problem but i have seen it from time to time and worth taking a couple of seconds to check.
@ringsidejudge4302
@ringsidejudge4302 Жыл бұрын
A super video for me as DIYer . I am at the same stage with a Stihl sh 86 . I have it ten years and have managed to keep it operating . The last time it just stopped suddenly .Checked spark and all OK. Replaced carb. No go Replaced coil. No go Replaced fly wheel No go Replaced spark plug. No go Currently waiting on a compression tester to arrive , but in the meantime I purchased a new one to relieve the stress . Please get the other video up soon as I can not wait to see the result . I hope to hear it running like a song . PS the day before my blower failed I think I heard a sharp crack coming from it but on failure day it ran good for five minutes . Previous failings were repaired by Carb renewal Coil renewal Kill wiring harness renewal , intermittent stops due to faulty harness . Bolt coming loose behind flywheel causing a mechanical seizure I know this is my Stihl history lesson please forgive ,but it may be of help to someone .
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
wow you've gone thru everything I would have to try and get it running. Yes the video is coming up very soon.
@TreborNosnibor
@TreborNosnibor Жыл бұрын
Your videos are fantastic! I appreciate that you don't just narrate while you're working. It's so much more helpful when you record the narration after you've made the video track. Pure pro, man. Pure pro!! I wish you had a tip jar!!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thanks I appreciate that
@deebee3901
@deebee3901 Жыл бұрын
Mate, I think you are 100% on the right path. That piston ring needs to be freed up as not only was the compression low, it can cause the eventual problem of a ceased engine. I look forward to the next episode.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Dee Bee.
@mickeykim3559
@mickeykim3559 Жыл бұрын
Out of all the 2 stroke leaf blowers I've used/repaired, Poulan BVM series were the most troublesome. Mine had over 140psi and didnt have lose outer bolt issue but carb adjustment was extremely sensitive. Utimately, I was able to fine tune the L/H screws on the carb but I spent more time adjusting carb than actually using this leaf blower.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes I know how that feels.
@revelationhomestead1776
@revelationhomestead1776 Жыл бұрын
My favorite how do I fix this channel 🤝
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you !
@watermanone7567
@watermanone7567 Жыл бұрын
Good job cleaning the ring and groove, make sure to clean the carbon out of the exhaust port as this can make issues with low power or not starting. Also try a different spark tester, I like the jump the gap type as sometimes the orange glow type will give you a false test. Thanks for the video.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes I should have cleaned the port better, thank you Waterman one.
@Pinhead_larry265
@Pinhead_larry265 Жыл бұрын
I have this same blower that I rebuilt from the ground up and have noticed that when I put it away the next day the fuel tank is completely empty, I believe I have a leak somewhere in the tank.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
it's quite possible.
@anthonycorcella7300
@anthonycorcella7300 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY you come across a stuck ring! I had this exact thing happen with a RedMax blower I was given from a landscaper who said it just wouldn't start one day.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you finally found something that interests you. did you ever fix the redmax?
@anthonycorcella7300
@anthonycorcella7300 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel I love your videos! Yeah, once I freed the ring it ran great. Still use it to this day.
@tyroneclarke1666
@tyroneclarke1666 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate. Well done finding that the piston ring was stuck. Looking forward to see if the compression will increase. Cheers 🦘🇦🇺
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
you won't have to wait long, I'll be releasing it sooner than later, thank you Tyrone Clarke.
@kaaraa-mardha1977
@kaaraa-mardha1977 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel where's the video showing that after you cleaned the rings the engine started!!! Can you share that video with me please
@haneyoakie14
@haneyoakie14 Жыл бұрын
I recently had one of these and the ring was very carbon jammed. Jug was nice, not scored, so I soaked it in pb blaster. 36 hours later, I destroyed the ring. Good thing I ordered the ring initially. I cleaned the piston and installed new ring and Psi jumped from 36 to 120. You showed this model in a previous video and it was very helpful.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes I've done this job more than once, unfortunately , but I'm glad it worked out for you .
@haneyoakie14
@haneyoakie14 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel $8 ring delivered, it it fun to get them running again.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes sir.
@haneyoakie14
@haneyoakie14 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel not worth it for profit, but I enjoy the challenge. Sometimes. And sometimes I wonder why I bothered.
@jamesturnure9735
@jamesturnure9735 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely a professional quality video; very articulate and thorough! I just went through the exact same gyrations with a Poulan BVM200VS blower that I trash picked. Went through the carb...renewed the fuel lines and freed the piston ring. Noted that it had a new spark plug (clue). Well, I get intermittent spark with the plug grounded but believe that it's likely not sparking when under compression when operating dynamically. Checked air gap and keyway, so I'm condemning the coil. This one's pretty worn out, so likely not worth the $15 for a new coil. Heading to the parts bin!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you and good luck with the repair.
@gyroonesix5862
@gyroonesix5862 Жыл бұрын
Great job cleaning that ring! Took piston from one as ring was scored. Installed in another one and the sucker started!! Used 40-1 mix. I have a weed wacker that I bought at Wal Mart, for $99. Never even replaced the plug on it. Use it twice a week in the summer. What I don’t do is rev the crap out of it. That’s what ruins most of them. Oh, it’s over 10 years old already. Let’s see what happens this spring.😊
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
very nice, thank you Gyro Onesix
@Patrick4959
@Patrick4959 Жыл бұрын
your most surely on to something and i reckon that crankshaft seal might be part of the culprit from my view seeing all that dirt around where the flywheel sits on that section between the flywheel key and main seal etc.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
it's definitely a possibility, thank you Patrick Stapleton.
@bobkucharski9425
@bobkucharski9425 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. I have a 6 year old Stihl BG 86 blower and ran perfect until now. The engine suddenly stopped/seized up. I removed the flywheel and the 3 bolts behind it were loose and caused the back of the flywheel to get jammed. I tightened them up and it again ran perfect. I decided to take the flywheel off again and put locktite on the 3 bolts and now it barely starts and will only run on half choke, when I throttle, it bogs then dies. I use nonethanol gas. This is what I've done so far with no success, same problem with no changes: Checked spark plug, checked the air filter, checked the spark arrestor and mufler, replaced the carburetor, fuel lines and filter. Final item, replaced the tank vent and checked the timing. Note, when adjusting the H & L on the new replaced carburetor, nothing changes, still bogs/dies. I'm puzzled as what to do next, any help/suggestions would be great appreciated,
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Ай бұрын
sure thing, have you consider taking off the muffler and looking at the exhaust port? The port could be collecting carbon, and is closed up, acting like a blocked spark arrestor screen.
@bobkucharski9425
@bobkucharski9425 Ай бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel Yes I did remove the muffler and cleaned a minor amount of carbon build up.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Ай бұрын
did you notice if the flywheel key was sheared from the "Jamming"?
@bobkucharski9425
@bobkucharski9425 Ай бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel Yes, most of the flywheel key is gone.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Ай бұрын
I see, if the key is gone, then you'll need to replace the flywheel, otherwise the ignition timing will be off.
@bobn8865
@bobn8865 Жыл бұрын
I had the exact same problem from start to finish of this video. Mine was a Husqvarna. Mine ring was also carboned stuck and I replaced the ring and cleaned the groove. Reassembled and it fired up.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
nice work Bob N
@tommyhanlon8012
@tommyhanlon8012 Жыл бұрын
Is there enough primary compression, are the crank seals ok ?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
the primary compression is a bit weak and the front crank seal is good.
@tommyhanlon8012
@tommyhanlon8012 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel it's the descending piston that creates primary compression & transfer, if the stuck ring is causing low primary & secondary ? 60 psi on a 4 stroke is enough to get the engine to cycle, perhaps a 2 stroke may need a little more pressure with their configuration ?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
oh I see you what you're saying.
@tommyhanlon8012
@tommyhanlon8012 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel while we're talking, why don't I see you on the live streams even in the chats ? Top Conker Saturday 7.30 GMT or Ken's small engine on Sunday mornings ? It's good sport, even just being in the chat.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
nice idea but I am not free, during that time slot.
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 Жыл бұрын
ANY lead is a lead and you'll never know unless you follow it up. Good deal and Blessings!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
you are correct
@MikeJones-jr5hb
@MikeJones-jr5hb Жыл бұрын
I think you covered all the bases but it might be an intermittent coil problem. I've got one for you, i got a brand new old stock Tecumseh tc 300 series engine that runs great but i put my compression tester on it' just to see how good a new one would read and all its got is 37psi. i've checked my tester hooked it up on my air compressor adjusted it to 80psi and that is what the compression tester read. I know it doesn't make sense & it left me scratching my head.😂😂Good video & good luck. I'm looking forward to see what you find out.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Mike Jones
@paddyman9603
@paddyman9603 Жыл бұрын
I would say spot on with the low compression causing non-start, however the cause is probably using the wrong type 2-stroke oil, some people will mix in any type they can find and if its castor based or racing spec it needs higher temperatures to burn off cleanly, if the engine is running cooler than the oil was designed for the unburnt oil turns into a gummy mess and cause ring sticking & port clogging.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Paddy Man .
@mikevessels164
@mikevessels164 Жыл бұрын
What is in the spray bottle what kind of cleaner works better
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
it's either LA Awesome cleaner or harbor freight's degreaser
@williamsnow1531
@williamsnow1531 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm good question. I’m not really sure how to answer that. I guess if it runs at you do what your doing it might show it was a compression problem.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping the compression is the problem otherwise I'm not sure what to do.
@kyotocrimeclub6406
@kyotocrimeclub6406 Жыл бұрын
i wouldnt say you went in the wrong direction sometimes engines are just complicated rabbit holes. but the only thing i thought to check that i didn't hear you say was fuel pump/sending unit
@aeson33
@aeson33 Жыл бұрын
I have taken my 15+ year old Poulan apart so may times to fix shit. Luckily never that. Have to say, I had no money when I bought that thing and it still is useful as a backup blower.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
to be honest, I really do like this style of blower, and I don't have an issue using one everyday.
@alexandercosta1777
@alexandercosta1777 Жыл бұрын
Not a big fan of the poplin pro, what brand are you least fond of? Oh and ive been trying to send you comments o videos but for some reason they haven’t been sending, pretty weird, sorry if i went quite for a few months
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
that's weird, I check the "held" section all the time and I haven't seen any of your comments there, so they should be showing up , like normal. As for the least favorite brand, I don't have one, but I do have a "STYLE" of engine, that I don't care for, and it's the one with the spark plug, on the bottom.
@sgslimy4179
@sgslimy4179 Жыл бұрын
Does it just use gas?
@Furrowx
@Furrowx Жыл бұрын
That's a tough call I would have gone the same way You did to save some money Understandable that it is extremly frustrating .
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you for understanding Christopher Furrow.
@charliee7142
@charliee7142 Жыл бұрын
When you tried to start it with the drill you were going backwards ?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
no I was not, confirmed it twice, besides going the other direction, pulls on the rope for the recoil, and won't allow you to turn it over. Thanks for trying tho.
@Satoriga
@Satoriga 2 ай бұрын
4:55 would it be in start position?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 ай бұрын
since I added fuel to the engine, I have to try and start it in the run position otherwise you'll end up flooding it in the "start" position
@johndavis3231
@johndavis3231 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if that blower ran but I have an identical blower with identical non run situation. I am stumped. short of replacing the cylinder and piston, I can find no other solution. I am open to suggestion.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
did you watch the entire video? I fixed the blower and the problem Is very common on this model
@NerfCraft
@NerfCraft Жыл бұрын
I think freeing the ring will get this engine working again. Definitely not supposed to be stuck, and 80psi of compression really is on the low side. I don't necessarily think that 80 is enough compression to make this engine run, probably depends on the engine, but I'm guessing this one is set up in such a way that it needs more than 80 psi to work properly. The only other things I can think of are that either fuel or air got blocked off somehow, but you bypassed the fuel system by putting fuel directly into the engine, and it didn't appear to have anything keeping air out, so not sure what else could cause it. Maybe exhaust/spark arrestor clogged somehow? Any mention of how well it ran the day before it wouldn't start?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
unfortunately no, I wasn't given that information
@robertlipscomb9741
@robertlipscomb9741 Жыл бұрын
Had the same problem, Poulan, wouldn't help, low compression, stuck piston ring. Cleaned piston, freed ring, bought new ring, reassembled. Fired right up, but didn't last long, till it did it again. Bought new head & piston & ring. Runs like new, now! Learned a lot. Great video!!!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
really? I'll have to see how long this ones last until it does it again.
@tughillplateau2129
@tughillplateau2129 Жыл бұрын
That was some nasty deposits on that piston. Oil related failure from deposits.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
very possible
@revelationhomestead1776
@revelationhomestead1776 Жыл бұрын
👍
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Revelation Homestead.
@BoringJohnson
@BoringJohnson Жыл бұрын
What's the difference between this channel and IHG?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
there's no difference now, but there used to be a difference when I came up with them, one was the diagnostic, and the other was the repair but the viewers hated it.
@Amedeus1756
@Amedeus1756 Жыл бұрын
Do you think that Sea Foam or any fogging product might have worked on the stuck piston?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
at the point it's at, No. It would require something stronger, like saoking in b12 carb cleaner or a strong acid.
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 Жыл бұрын
This/you is a real shop!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Curiosity
@harrygregory6227
@harrygregory6227 Жыл бұрын
This "blows" me away
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
lol.. nice
@cptyler150
@cptyler150 Жыл бұрын
I know you have made videos short and it's mostly because of the editing that you have to do takes a lot. But like a previous user on here says too I like long videos also... Yes freeing up the ring was a fantastic thing to do... A little break home down the cylinder walls would have done another clean up too and make it slide easier...
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Christopher Tyler, if I have enough time, and I can produce longer videos I will, but unfortunately this time didn't work out.
@danielgilstrap
@danielgilstrap Жыл бұрын
@homegarage I got a question for you do you know where to find this carburetor for my mower it's a 2006 briggs and stratton
@danielgilstrap
@danielgilstrap Жыл бұрын
The number on the carburetor is 214661
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
sure on Amazon, or Ereplacmentparts dot com.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
it's best if you had the Model and serial number on the mower deck.
@danielgilstrap
@danielgilstrap Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel I've tried amazon but that didn't work so I'll try the other
@josephsfields
@josephsfields Жыл бұрын
This one is going full send. My guess was bad gas almost before the video started. Then I got tired after several jumps to a conclusion. At this point a recall buying a cheap Poulan chainsaw for ≈ $99 on Amazon. I used it for about an hour to cut down a tree and it crapped out on me, never to run again on the next use five minutes later. I took it to the shop because it was brand new and was told the cylinder was scored so bad it could not be repaired. I was so mad at that chainsaw that I used it like a horseshoe all over the backyard is an effort to feel better about the loss.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
man that sucks sorry to hear that.
@manuelmaldonado4951
@manuelmaldonado4951 Жыл бұрын
hi...love your vids! i have the same blower. it will start and run good but only if i put gas on the carb..it dont start with out putting gas on the carb. any ideas?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
hmm, it's definitely something going with the carb. I would replace the carb, and reason is it's only $16.
@manuelmaldonado4951
@manuelmaldonado4951 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you! i will do that
@HSC570
@HSC570 Жыл бұрын
Hey man what 2 cycle oil do you use
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Black Max full synthetic
@HSC570
@HSC570 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you. I will be getting me some this spring
@robertmailhos8159
@robertmailhos8159 Жыл бұрын
I have the same one that you are going to fix the one that I have won't start ethier
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I wonder if your has the same problem
@robertmailhos8159
@robertmailhos8159 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel there's no telling what is going on with it I'm considering giving it to the scrap man
@jay7264
@jay7264 Жыл бұрын
I think it's an air leak in the crankcase
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
that is definitely a real possibility
@aholejoe5594
@aholejoe5594 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Had a crapsman that did that.
@Dirtbikeguy123
@Dirtbikeguy123 7 ай бұрын
I don't have spark on my eco weedeter
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 7 ай бұрын
sorry to hear that. Have you considered disconnecting the wire to the kill switch?
@aholejoe5594
@aholejoe5594 Жыл бұрын
The cap removed at 6:40 is probably cracked.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thanks
@SPIDERNED6482
@SPIDERNED6482 5 ай бұрын
check the carborater
@QuaabQueb
@QuaabQueb Жыл бұрын
Be careful with the gauges on those cheap compression testers. They are notoriously bad. I had one take me for a ride before I even thought to check it. Good spark doesn't always necessarily mean good coil. I've learned that the hard way too. Typically every time I see a sheared key on something like a trimmer or blower it is because the flywheel nut came loose! Great repair on a problem most would not bother to take on!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@josephmeadows8521
@josephmeadows8521 Жыл бұрын
I got the same blower
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
nice, do you like it?
@Kets4ekifan2
@Kets4ekifan2 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel I don’t like mine BUT it might be da air filter
@charlesboston1
@charlesboston1 Жыл бұрын
crank seals
@rockevronv11
@rockevronv11 Жыл бұрын
The bottom end has to have compression, you were only testing the top end, im a mechanic for cars and lawn equipment, trust me
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
is there a way to test for the compression for the bottom end?
@rockevronv11
@rockevronv11 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel yes, you pull the cylinder off then check the seal on top for wear, even tho the head is tight it will still leak air, please check this
@marcl9232
@marcl9232 Жыл бұрын
A real shop would say, we dont work on those then try to sell them a new one out of there shop. It's not worth they're time.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes you are correct.
@erniemoore2365
@erniemoore2365 Жыл бұрын
1oo psi it will start
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes you're right about that.
@hectornagano1819
@hectornagano1819 Жыл бұрын
They call it a poulan , because you pull and pull, and pull.
@paulblackburn931
@paulblackburn931 Жыл бұрын
It should have started.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes you're right, but because of the ring being stuck, it wasn't "drawing in" enough of the fuel and air. One the ring was "free" it started and ran Great.
@TargaWheels
@TargaWheels Жыл бұрын
You covered all the bases so that's most likely your issue. But 99.9% of homeowners...and probably repair shops...won't touch it.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
you are exactly right about that.
@bigmesstest230
@bigmesstest230 Жыл бұрын
The pistion not sealing right in the cylinder is why the blower wont start because there is to much of a gap for the combustion process to work its acting like there is no compression and that's why it wont start I'm a ASC certified mechanic
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you big mess test 230!
@bigmesstest230
@bigmesstest230 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel but once you fix that stuck pistion ring there should be no reason why it wont just fire right up
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
you are correct, just a spoiler, the compression increases A LOT!
@bigmesstest230
@bigmesstest230 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel I know it would
@drcoffee5588
@drcoffee5588 Жыл бұрын
When fixing costs more than new, toss it in the garbage
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thanks
@drcoffee5588
@drcoffee5588 Жыл бұрын
Did you check the priming bulb for cracks? It sounded like it wasnt getting fuel.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes it was working
@0001Noah
@0001Noah Жыл бұрын
I don't think 80psi is enough for it to run, especially considering the amount of blowby on the piston and the ring being stuck.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I think you're right.
@04spike
@04spike Жыл бұрын
You didn't check the valves.
@fwflyer78
@fwflyer78 Жыл бұрын
I think that it will come down to low compression as to the reason why it would not run. Eighty PSI, from my experience, is a bit low for a two stroke to run at all. It will be interesting to see how much the compression increases when you button everything back up. The only other thing that it could be is a weak spark from the coil.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
you are correct about the spark from the coil, and yes hopefully the compression increase enough to get it to run
@butler386
@butler386 Жыл бұрын
Once again I checked with my daughter and she said it has a bad goer. I think you are spot on with your analysis. The only other thing I can think of might be a problem with those reeds that let gas and air to flow into the combustion chamber. Looking forward to the next video.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you D Butler
@Jim-ie6uf
@Jim-ie6uf Жыл бұрын
No reeds
@heathwak3030
@heathwak3030 Жыл бұрын
that piston has been through hell
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
it's not as bad as running straight gas thru it.
@heathwak3030
@heathwak3030 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel very true but it has still got a lot of use on it
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
very true.
@janovsk1
@janovsk1 Жыл бұрын
I`m voting for weak or intermitant spark since it was running ok with the stuck ring for probably some time.Great instructional video !
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you janovsk1
@jerrysoutherland662
@jerrysoutherland662 Жыл бұрын
I had a trimmer,that had spark compression fuel still would not start,it was the gasket between the insulator and engine had to replace.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes that's a good reason a blower, wouldn't start. thank you Jerry Southerland.
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 Жыл бұрын
I've seen a similar problem in a car. Turned out the coil was no good. It can show spark in a tester, but still not fire the plug.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
ah.. now that makes sense
@Mixz1890
@Mixz1890 Жыл бұрын
Use paint thinner to dissolve carbon buildup
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thanks for the tip
@toddosterhout9866
@toddosterhout9866 Жыл бұрын
I’ve learned a ton watching your videos but I’ve always heard of you don’t have at least 100 psi then the blower is no good so I think you are on the right track
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Todd Osterhout. 100 psi is decent, and any lower, it's going to be down on power.
@Nukemann64
@Nukemann64 Жыл бұрын
phew, that's a LOT of work, for a cheap blower. IDK if i'd have went to the extent you did, sir. I commend you on your diligence and perseverance though! Who'd have though that a stuck piston ring would have caused all of those issues. Great video IHG!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I know right, if I was charing for my time, they would never have agreed to it.
@ericrichardson3332
@ericrichardson3332 Жыл бұрын
What I am wondering is there a way to clean the stuck ring with out disassembling said blower like a solvent that could be added and left in for a little while then emptied out but it may not work well so just a thought I had
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes you could but you'd have to fill the engine with it too, and it would damage all the seals.
@ericrichardson3332
@ericrichardson3332 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel makes sense it would damage some seals so there's no way around good old fashioned taking it apart and cleaning / soaking the piston and rings on there own and then reassembling with a little assembly lube when needed
@aholejoe5594
@aholejoe5594 Жыл бұрын
Cracked housing.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thanks
@josearzola3070
@josearzola3070 Жыл бұрын
A real shop ? Sir you are humble !.Your experience surpasses so called real shops.Dude you fixed it .that stuck ring fix will bring up the compression at least 25 psi.its fixed now.great job and another awesome video.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate that. you already know the compression going to go up, and spoiler, it goes up A LOT! thank you Jose Arzola.
@brucecoleman7412
@brucecoleman7412 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for part 2!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
coming up soon
@grungemunkey
@grungemunkey Жыл бұрын
I'm just as asshole who doesn't know what he's doing, since you've asked. I think you're making logical steps to fix it.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Curtis Frost.
@ethanmiller3935
@ethanmiller3935 Жыл бұрын
While 80 psi isn't ideal, I find it hard to believe that is the issue. I have an echo es210 with 60 psi compression (new ring and I ball honed the cylinder with no increase in compression) but it starts and runs well. I would lean more toward a coil issue/weak spark or an air leak somewhere. I would also use a better oil to prevent that carbon build-up. I run Echo Red armour @ 50:1 in some equipment, and Amsoil Saber @ 80:1 in all my new Echo's (pas2620, hc2210, and pb9010) . Whether or not that was THE issue for the lack of start it certainly was a issue for that blower Hopefully, you got it fixed and great video!!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I hear what you're saying. If this doesn't work, I'm going to look into maybe getting a new ignition coil. Thank you Ethan Miller.
@ethanmiller3935
@ethanmiller3935 Жыл бұрын
​@@HomeGaragechannel Do you have any ideas on how to get the compression up on that es210? (I run echo red armor in that) I rebuilt the motor completely, ring, gaskets, seals etc., so I am stuck on why it has so little compression. I have used multiple gauges, and it feels weak on compression as well (It doesn't have an easy start feature). I tried removing/deleting the base gasket and just using permatex motoseal and it didn't do anything on the compression either. Thanks!!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
hmm.. you didn't do any porting right? Did you take any measurements on the cylinder bore, before and after honing? To only thing I could come up with is milling the cylinder base, a couple thousandths .
@ethanmiller3935
@ethanmiller3935 Жыл бұрын
No l didnt do any porting or measuring. Measuring the bore would have been a good idea. I also only used echo parts on it, so l dont think l got a part (mainly a ring) that doesn't play nice with the rest of the motor. All l can say next time it comes apart the engine might be getting some modifications to increase compression. Thanks so much for your advice!!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
no problem thank you for your time.
@robertwilliams3983
@robertwilliams3983 Жыл бұрын
I've got a poulan pro trimmer pp446et that's annoying me similar to your blower. I've got spark, got gas. The spark arrestor screen is clean. I don't have a compression tester. I've changed the coil & a new carburetor & spark plug. I've seen gas come out the carburetor & muffler even after I replaced the carburetor. Dried the plug & did the unflooding stuff. There's a coat of carbon on top of the piston. I'd hate to take it all apart again to check the timing key. I'm about ready to sell it for parts or throw it away.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I know it's frustrating, but do you have a friend who works on cars? if so, have them do a compression test on it, and see what the reading is.
@brucelewis1017
@brucelewis1017 3 ай бұрын
I've got one of the older poulan 2000 blower/vac it starts easy when it's cold but after it runs and get warm when you shut it off it won't start back I'm ready to throw it in the trash
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 3 ай бұрын
sorry to hear that.
@RealWickedAlliance
@RealWickedAlliance Жыл бұрын
It not starting because the stuck ring makes sense if that's not it that not sure the direction you should go. But in my personal life my dad gave me a nice Stihl fs38
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Matt and a Rachet
@douglashaight24
@douglashaight24 Жыл бұрын
Just as a question, when storing two stroke equipment, leaf blower weed eater and chainsaws, should I empty all the fuel out of them and run until completely empty?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I think it's the best method and it's what I do, but It's up to you.
@douglashaight24
@douglashaight24 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you, keep putting out great content! You’ve helped me fix my leaf blower and my push mower
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I will thank you
@malikhall1192
@malikhall1192 Жыл бұрын
Love the vids Face reveal ?
@martinsnyder7483
@martinsnyder7483 11 ай бұрын
NEVER put a piston and rings together dry as in not using any oil when putting the rings on the piston and when putting the piston back in the engine
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 11 ай бұрын
it wasn't dry
@brianking1138
@brianking1138 Жыл бұрын
I think you're on to something however I probably wouldn't have spent the time on this one.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean.
@djtrainman2
@djtrainman2 Жыл бұрын
Could it be something to do with the stop switch
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
no the ring was stuck to the piston.
@tylerkratz7
@tylerkratz7 7 ай бұрын
What are you spraying and rinsing to clean the outside of the blower?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 7 ай бұрын
I'm using the gallon size degreaser from Harbor Freight and using water to rinse
@WillsSmallEngines
@WillsSmallEngines Жыл бұрын
I have pretty much the same blower
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
nice, do you like it?
@AlexanderBoudreaux-o1p
@AlexanderBoudreaux-o1p Жыл бұрын
I guarantee compression is a super big deal with these little motors
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes it is
@GrowingLittleCountryhomestead
@GrowingLittleCountryhomestead Жыл бұрын
Great video, hopefully the next video will show it starting. I don’t think your viewers would mind a longer video. I know I don’t mind. Thanks see you on the next one.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
me to, thank you Growing Little Country homestead.
@mikegregory7844
@mikegregory7844 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to be a pain but I think my problem is the spark arrestor. Could you give me any advice on how I remove it or do I clean it while it’s in the muffler? Thank you so much for your help.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 3 ай бұрын
unfortunately I won't be able to help you on this one. But if you get creative you can bypass it. I however won't be able to tell you how though
@mikegregory7844
@mikegregory7844 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for responding. I will see.
@FahQMan
@FahQMan Жыл бұрын
Check the trigger. Make sure it’s opening up enough
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thanks for the tip
@TomHaddon-mp3oo
@TomHaddon-mp3oo Жыл бұрын
How do you get that little swing gate open at 1:22 in the video?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
push a flat screwdriver into the opening, but have it closer to the left side of the opening
@edgartobias2406
@edgartobias2406 Жыл бұрын
I'll be waiting for the next part....
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
here you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/h53XdaGQe82NqKM
@Ethan_the_Railfan
@Ethan_the_Railfan 3 ай бұрын
If it don’t fire, Check the magneto
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 3 ай бұрын
great idea
@andreworli4117
@andreworli4117 Жыл бұрын
WOW! Sherlock Holmes lives!👍
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thanks
@mattariechannel4142
@mattariechannel4142 Жыл бұрын
Nice info n tutorial..👍💪😄..greeting from Malaysia..🇲🇾
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Matt Arie Channel, and hello Malaysia!
@Windows98R
@Windows98R Жыл бұрын
This one definitely is the blower equivalent to "Its just cheaper to go get a junkyard engine" rather than diagnose if this was in a car.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
you got that right, this is better used to keep doors propped open.
@hosta3199
@hosta3199 Жыл бұрын
What did you use to clean the carbon off
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
you mean on the piston? Carb cleaner seems to do a good job otherwise oven cleaner
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