Fixing eBay Junk - Game Boy Color Game - Game won't boot up

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@Nezuji
@Nezuji 6 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: When you turn on the Gameboy, the "Nintendo" logo that is displayed on the screen actually comes from the cartridge ROM (part of an over-complicated anti-piracy system). Since the Nintendo logo displayed correctly from the beginning, that indicated that the connector was fine and that at least the first kilobyte of the ROM was being read correctly. My guess would be that one or more of the higher address pins on the ROM chip had come away from the board. Cartridge games often have their startup code located right near the end.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 5 жыл бұрын
It usually depends on processor's reset vector. 68k has a reset vector table that is located at the end of address space, thus this location must be mapped to a cartridge and is necessary during startup. Small capacity cartridges repeat themselves because high cartridge bus address lines simply aren't connected to anything. Disassembling Sonic was 'interesting' because across different routines, the jump and constant addresses refer to different mirrors of the same ROM data, as the ROM repeats 4 times in address space. Gameboy has a custom processor vaguely based on Z80 with unusual changes. There is an extended reset vector for the interrupt controller at address 0. The reset program counter is 0x100 as opposed to 0 in Z80. Everything that's needed to start is in low ROM addresses. Actually it's impossible to guess which pin group was no longer operational - low ROM address lines, high ROM address lines, data - same result. Besides, mask ROM address inputs can oscillate when floating.
@HolyPetRel
@HolyPetRel 5 жыл бұрын
@@SianaGearz god damn I just learned more from two comments than a whole week of school
@ElectricWizardYT
@ElectricWizardYT 5 жыл бұрын
@@HolyPetRel Ikr!!!
@KevinTwiner
@KevinTwiner 5 жыл бұрын
Siana Gearz thank you 🙏
@rqyhae3340
@rqyhae3340 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the controller doesn’t work properly and only loads the memory containing the Nintendo logo.
@TecFox
@TecFox 6 жыл бұрын
This square-shaped chip which has the label MBC-5 on it is called a memory bank controller. Every GameBoy cartridge that is bigger than 32 KB has one. It's used to switch between sections of the ROM in the GameBoy's limited address space. The version 5 of this controller supports the GBC's double speed mode and can address up to 8 megabytes of ROM.
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@subg9165
@subg9165 6 жыл бұрын
Are you sure its megabytes and not megabits? Because usually cartridge capacity is measured in megabits.
@TecFox
@TecFox 6 жыл бұрын
It is megabytes. You can read about the properties of the controller here: gbdev.gg8.se/wiki/articles/MBC5. There's also at least one GBC game I know about which has a size of 8 megabytes. It's the Japan-only title called Densha de Go! 2.
@davidmcgill1000
@davidmcgill1000 5 жыл бұрын
Wonder why /RST was missing that capacitor to ground and instead it goes to /CS2 on the bus through the via. Test point?
@fake._
@fake._ 6 жыл бұрын
But did you blow the cartridge?
@lemon_boy577
@lemon_boy577 6 жыл бұрын
This is clearly a fake comment
@Mooselag
@Mooselag 6 жыл бұрын
ifalrady ü yes, astute observation
@uuu12343
@uuu12343 6 жыл бұрын
@@lemon_boy577 Thus commentor is fake
@55_Ford_F·250_LB
@55_Ford_F·250_LB 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work
@drakevevo3710
@drakevevo3710 6 жыл бұрын
ifalrady ü press x to doubt
@missionpassed4584
@missionpassed4584 6 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder how many things get chucked because of a tiny fixable component.
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately way too much.
@AT-sl9kf
@AT-sl9kf 6 жыл бұрын
Somethings get chucked even if they work perfectly
@techventure3186
@techventure3186 6 жыл бұрын
I had a lady this week message me about fixing her laptop because the touchpad physically broke. I quoted $100 for parts + labour and she messaged back saying she’ll just get a new one. Imagine how much ends up in landfill.
@EvertGuzman
@EvertGuzman 6 жыл бұрын
I fix most of my things
@sebi3510
@sebi3510 6 жыл бұрын
Some people could be too lazy to fix it, or really don’t care if they have the thing or not.
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, somebody actually took the time to caption this video for me! You guys rock!
@shadomar4633
@shadomar4633 4 жыл бұрын
Hi i have cartridge that work only sound without image can it be fixed
@tuber138
@tuber138 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadomar4633 no
@DarkLink1108
@DarkLink1108 6 жыл бұрын
At 4:12 you can clearly see that the rightmost leg of the ROM chip has a broken solder joint. So reflowing was the right choice. :)
@johnproudlock2900
@johnproudlock2900 3 жыл бұрын
im so pleased i wasnt the only one who noticed that straight away
@Mobin92
@Mobin92 6 жыл бұрын
Next video: Create a replacement sticker for that.
@RainFire47
@RainFire47 6 жыл бұрын
Mobin92 please
@slump6982
@slump6982 6 жыл бұрын
Draw it on your own XD!!!!
@mariopikaman1
@mariopikaman1 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, a replacement sticker would be amazing to see.
@Theboobiehatch
@Theboobiehatch 6 жыл бұрын
wouldn't be too amazing, they sell printable sticker paper at places like walmart, all he has to do is print a label on that and stick it on
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
The trick with these is the shiny graphics. It doesn't replicate on a printer well
@Jingleboy14
@Jingleboy14 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, your presentation in this video is fantastic. I have an old copy of Pokémon yellow that's been dead for 10 years, followed your reflow steps and boom - now it loads up. It's people like you that make the internet a fantastic place for education. Kudos.
@cytofusion6072
@cytofusion6072 2 жыл бұрын
This video helped me revive my very first gameboy game ever; Pokemon Gold. It went through the washer/dryer over 15 years ago, killing it quite thoroughly. Years later and after some practice soldering, I managed to finally repair it and I can once again play my favorite game. I’m so happy I held onto the dead cartridge for sentimental reasons.
@ShadowOfNos
@ShadowOfNos 6 жыл бұрын
I have nothing to repair, but it was interesting seeing you fix it !
@IceSlushi
@IceSlushi 6 жыл бұрын
That pencil eraser blew my mind.
@Kazuo1G
@Kazuo1G 6 жыл бұрын
Monsters, Inc. was one of the worst games I ever played. I feel like it was not beta-tested, because the difficulty is ramped up way too high. (i.e. the reaction time required for some of the enemy characters is insane.)
@S-Video
@S-Video 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I hate the CDA in Monsters Inc. GBC because they are so hard to distract and they come out of nowhere!
@pollyisagoodbird
@pollyisagoodbird 6 жыл бұрын
Pencil erasers are good cor cleaning, but the BEST kind of eraser is a white rubber eraser, which you can by at an arts and crafts store. These particular erasers create the least amount of crumbs compared to a standard #2 pencil eraser. I also feel they are far more effective due to the material they are made out of. Not to mention one eraser will last you the rest of your life, no matter how many games you clean with it. I also clean my games with rubbing alcohol and Q-Tips as well as erasing them, just for good measure. A cart of the Game Boy version of Donkey Kong I bought had booting issues, and Q-Tips / alcohol alone didn't fix it. Busting out the white eraser, I noticed the rubbed was picking up some green stuff that the Q-Tip wasn't!
@sadeva6532
@sadeva6532 6 жыл бұрын
from a conservator's point of view the best eraser is actually white unsalted bread. All Erasers contain some form of softener and other chemicals which will rub off on what you clean. The residue will lead to corrosion at some point down the line. The bread works just the same only minus all the chemical compounds.
@breakingaustin
@breakingaustin 6 жыл бұрын
The back of the board looks like a surprised face! And thus ends the extent of my understanding of this video :)
@__GAME
@__GAME 6 жыл бұрын
🤯
@__GAME
@__GAME 6 жыл бұрын
Mind blown
@Thatdudewithatie
@Thatdudewithatie 6 жыл бұрын
The Last Knight hilarious 😂
@breakingaustin
@breakingaustin 6 жыл бұрын
Once you see it, it starts to look like invasive eye surgery..
@daywalker3735
@daywalker3735 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@mikelibby990
@mikelibby990 6 жыл бұрын
Having unsteady hands is the worst with small things like this lol
@luigi7834
@luigi7834 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an artist and doing lineart is the worst for this reason. I always fuck up the drawing with my pen in the lineart stage
@Geeksmithing
@Geeksmithing 6 жыл бұрын
One thing to note, capacitors can be polarized, meaning they have a positive and negative side, and cannot be reversed without causing an issue in the circuit. Resistors on the other hand are non polarized and do not care what orientation you connect them. Awesome that you were able to get this guy working!
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Very true and important. I've got one project that involved replacing the caps. Luckily usually the board indicates which side positive should be.
@Geeksmithing
@Geeksmithing 6 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRepairs that is very helpful! :) Keep up the video posts, I am enjoying them!:)
@Krivulda
@Krivulda 6 жыл бұрын
Correct way to solder SMD caps is to clean the pads with soldering wick, tin one pad, solder the cap in place by the one pad and then solder the another end.
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Krivulda the other correct way is to use a smaller tip. I haven't done a ton of really fine SMD work like that (as you can see)
@Krivulda
@Krivulda 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wanted to point it out aswell, but I know it doesn't have to be a problem. I just pointed out the trick I learned from work which really does help :)
@TechnologistAtWork
@TechnologistAtWork 6 жыл бұрын
also that tip is so big i had diarrhea watching his awful soldering work.
@walterkanehl5624
@walterkanehl5624 6 жыл бұрын
themazeful like you know how to solder
@InfiniteSoahGTACODGLITCHES
@InfiniteSoahGTACODGLITCHES 6 жыл бұрын
@@walterkanehl5624 it really isn't hard...
@SoundFantasy
@SoundFantasy 6 жыл бұрын
I respect you fixing the most miniscule and unwanted items. I see that game in bargain/junk bins all the time. you rarely see people try and attempt to fix these awful games. awesome work
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Truth be told, I'm probably never going to sit down and play this game, but I more wanted to see if I could do it, and show others how to revive a game they might actually care about.
@KevinLuper99
@KevinLuper99 6 жыл бұрын
Leave it wet and insert it over and over
@Smartfunnyandlazy
@Smartfunnyandlazy 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Luper thats how i fix everything.
@KevinLuper99
@KevinLuper99 6 жыл бұрын
Smartfunnyandlazy same bro
@kur0nek0g4ming
@kur0nek0g4ming 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Luper you shuld get 69 Likes for this comment
@adamstilldrives
@adamstilldrives 6 жыл бұрын
insert it into the gameboy*
@JamesJAKAZeldaboy14
@JamesJAKAZeldaboy14 6 жыл бұрын
and he just got 69 likes
@StormAlterWorlds
@StormAlterWorlds 5 жыл бұрын
I paint miniatures, and shaky hands is an issue for me as well. A tip I show new painters is to touch your wrists together while you work in a tight space. It's a little awkward at first, but it helps tremendously with the independent movement and shakiness of your hands. If that isn't feasible, rest your forearms on the table and use just your hands and wrists to control the movement of your tools. Great videos, by the way. I've watched a few now, and while I've literally no experience in soldering or working on boards at all, I'm finding these very fascinating.
@JesusSocks
@JesusSocks 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this guy repair stuff always calms me down, no idea why. This is fast becoming my go-to channel after a few beers
@moth.monster
@moth.monster 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The screw is actually called an inverse Torx bit. "Gamebit" is simply a nickname.
@LpSamuelm
@LpSamuelm 6 жыл бұрын
That's actually not true! It looks a bit like an External Torx drive, but it's actually a Japanese drive called "line". Whenever you see "gamebit", you can be confident it's about a line head screw / screwdriver.
@dregenius
@dregenius 6 жыл бұрын
I was noticing it does have some similarities with E Torx™ but it’s definitely not the same and I don’t think the E Torx™ standard goes that small (although it may). E Torx™ is a distinctly small head in proportion to the fastener thread diameter, and is used primarily on German cars where limited space for fastener heads is available - hub bearings, some suspension links etc.
@wearentgh0sts
@wearentgh0sts 6 жыл бұрын
dregenius thanks for putting the trademarks in. I would’ve stolen the name otherwise.
@Fsilone
@Fsilone 6 жыл бұрын
The more mechanic types know it as spline drive.
@mikej2kb
@mikej2kb 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! I got a copy of Oracle of Seasons and couldn’t get it to work no matter how much I cleaned it. I had never had to use a soldering iron before, but your video made it easy to get through, and now my game is working perfectly. :D
@FrankKnife1
@FrankKnife1 2 жыл бұрын
funny my oracle of ages is having the same issue
@71dembonesTV
@71dembonesTV 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! I bet you bumped that little capacitor off while reflowing but maybe it had a weak joint too? It's one of those situations where you don't know exactly what fixed it but it dosen't matter because it works!
@Falcodrin
@Falcodrin 6 жыл бұрын
71dembones it's way easy to bump of tiny components so I wouldn't be surprised
@71dembonesTV
@71dembonesTV 6 жыл бұрын
LarryM yeah that's one of the reasons I don't like SMD stuff. Microscopic components, tight pin spacing; it's all scary stuff to me
@Falcodrin
@Falcodrin 6 жыл бұрын
71dembones as long as everything is discharged you don't need to worry about any shorts until you add power so there isn't too much to worry about
@TechnologistAtWork
@TechnologistAtWork 6 жыл бұрын
you saw the video. the cap was fine. he touched it with the tip. he was using the wrong tip for the job.
@TechnologistAtWork
@TechnologistAtWork 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong comment
@khristianharkins4983
@khristianharkins4983 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I saw that resistor and immediately thought it looked funny. Great video man. It was so cool to watch you break this all down.
@nathanielbeven9052
@nathanielbeven9052 6 жыл бұрын
thank you for describing why you do everything. i know you're older viewers my find it redundant all the time but its short enough to help out people who find certain vids from your catalog. great stuff
@SHNYRAT
@SHNYRAT Жыл бұрын
4 years after the video released it's still very helpful. Thank you!
@TheMrKeBaB94
@TheMrKeBaB94 6 жыл бұрын
16:23 panic attack hahaha
@billtalker3843
@billtalker3843 6 жыл бұрын
I laughed way too hard on that part 😂
@jefftparker
@jefftparker 6 жыл бұрын
Dude. I fucking died laughing. This shit is small though, I get it.
@psarookla
@psarookla 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAH
@ComputerTechnic217
@ComputerTechnic217 4 жыл бұрын
LMAOAOAOAOA underrated comment 🤣
@aaronspacee
@aaronspacee 6 жыл бұрын
I have some amazing memories of this game on the GBA. When I was 4 I had a gba sp with it, along with Rayman
@anovatex9578
@anovatex9578 6 жыл бұрын
Your shaking scares me.
@loku543
@loku543 6 жыл бұрын
Thats what i said
@Falcodrin
@Falcodrin 6 жыл бұрын
Haha I have a friend who's 21 but shakes like an old man and he solders almost microscopic stuff for a living. It's amazing how some people can work around shaking.
@TheMasonX23
@TheMasonX23 6 жыл бұрын
I, for one, am happy that Michael J Fox found a hobby repairing electronics...
@Aravzil
@Aravzil 6 жыл бұрын
I do micro-metric soldering and yeah, working under magnification changes everything, imo.
@VeedddeeR
@VeedddeeR 6 жыл бұрын
I know the poor guys shaking made me nervous hahah
@BlaggerDagger
@BlaggerDagger 6 жыл бұрын
RetroRepairs: "just to prove that it does work we have pokemon yellow here" Me: Youre Goddamn Right
@stephenlopez19691
@stephenlopez19691 6 жыл бұрын
You make these repairs looks so easy. I am tempted to try some on my old consoles. Love the videos and keep up the great work
@goodchannelname4046
@goodchannelname4046 2 жыл бұрын
If they already don’t work what’s the worst that could happen🤷🏻 give it a shot
@johnd5307
@johnd5307 6 жыл бұрын
You should have your own business,if you don’t already.Just amazing work😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I just do this in my spare time, but I enjoy making these videos
@dregenius
@dregenius 6 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to give a suggestion.. I recently was working on an old forgotten project that had a ton of old dried up rosin flux on the board. I normally use rubbing alcohol but it wasn’t touching the old flux. I didn’t want to heat everything up just to soften the flux, so I tried naphtha thinking it’s a short chain hydrocarbon which should be good for rosin flux but it’s not so aggressive as to damage plastic. It worked great and dries just as fast as alcohol. The added benefit is that unlike alcohol it doesn’t contain any water at all, so you don’t have to worry about moisture under chips causing corrosion between puns with differing voltages etc.
@Joshy05
@Joshy05 6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos dude, as a lover of retro games and consoles myself I have leaned a lot form watching you. Keep up the good work and the videos coming.
@RamsTheNameCom
@RamsTheNameCom 6 жыл бұрын
You don't understand! Monsters Inc. for the GBC should never be played with! The Developers of the game trapped a demon within the cartridge who goes by many names but you may commonly known him as, "Mike Wazowski". Once you turn on the game........... you release him. The person who sold you the cartridge was trying to do you a favor by disabling the game while also getting rid of the curse himself..... NOW YOU ARE FOREVER CURSED!!!!.... until you pass on the cartridge.
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
RamsTheNameCom crap. Better call in that woman from Poltergeist.
@mikewazowski6491
@mikewazowski6491 6 жыл бұрын
+RetroRepairs iT's AlReAdY tO0 lATE 4 ThaT!?! i GOt mY EyE On tHe BoTH Of YeAhs nOw!?!
@legomyeggo1812
@legomyeggo1812 6 жыл бұрын
MikeW.exe
@4pri792
@4pri792 6 жыл бұрын
Shut the fuck up kid
@samuraistrike1
@samuraistrike1 6 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a good game not great but passable
@Nightowl_IT
@Nightowl_IT 5 жыл бұрын
Normally you use no clean flux. It is not corrosive and you can leave it on. Don't touch the really small SMD components until you made sure that the game is still not running. You start with the ROM chip (big one) and the test the game and if that was enough you leave the rest alone.
@darkpadden
@darkpadden 6 жыл бұрын
The "game bit security driver bit" also called a inverted torx bit. Also try some Deoxit d5 for cleaning it not only helps to clean but it coats to help keep them from oxidizing more and a little goes a long way. Just a tip from someone who also loves keeping old systems alive.
@schloope5137
@schloope5137 6 жыл бұрын
I have no understanding of any of what happened in this video, but I found it quite interesting and oddly soothing. Subscribed!
@Tenkaichibudokai22
@Tenkaichibudokai22 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a gamer but I watched this for educational purposes and learned a lot about proper soldering. Thanks!
@knownbarkert6153
@knownbarkert6153 6 жыл бұрын
You're giving me anxiety watching you re-solder that capacitor 😂
@MichaelMichael-kv4gp
@MichaelMichael-kv4gp 6 жыл бұрын
I wish you only reflowed one chip at a time so I know which one was the culprit :P Good video for sure subbed.
@ComputerTechnic217
@ComputerTechnic217 4 жыл бұрын
it was the rom chip i think
@Fridelain
@Fridelain 6 жыл бұрын
For unscrewing game bit screws, You can also use small pliers (my go to) or the bic pen method (you melt the tip of a bic crystal pen casing, and push it into the screw, let it cool down and unscrew the screw). If you are doing it just once, like when I replaced the save batteries on my GB carts, it may not be worth the cost and wait time to you to get the proper screwdriver bit.
@abc-ni9uw
@abc-ni9uw 6 жыл бұрын
Just one problem. It's a crap 1 cent game
@somacruz7759
@somacruz7759 5 жыл бұрын
Based on a great movie :D
@rqyhae3340
@rqyhae3340 5 жыл бұрын
Still entertaining to fix, since fixing the cartridge for the sake of it is still fun even if it is a cheap money grab.
@chrispybee
@chrispybee 6 жыл бұрын
I love watching people fixing things and thanks for making them. I have a Sega Dreamcast and going to dust it off and give it a play. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
@1SmokedTurkey1
@1SmokedTurkey1 4 жыл бұрын
dropping those nuggets of wisdom about soldering like it's nothing
@slump6982
@slump6982 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I could do this ... I would have thought twice before throwing away some old cartridges
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Noooooooo!!!!
@Glokas7
@Glokas7 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to thank you for making this video. Regardless of the outcome or what you were repairing, it was a really nice, easy to learn, soldering tips video at its core. My uncle taught me how to solder at a very young age. It was the essential basics and I had forgotten a lot of it over the years. This video, and videos like it, are a great crash course on soldering basics, especially when it comes to electronic soldering on gaming elements. Without any over complicated jargon or techniques, it will help a lot of people. Shit, it helped me for sure, I just need to get a better Iron. I love these repair videos and I hope you keep doing them. Thanks again.
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. If i can help people keep their old repairable games out of the garbage, then mission successful.
@Glokas7
@Glokas7 5 жыл бұрын
RetroRepairs - It absolutely helped me and it’s going to help me in future Repairs just from the Soldering Basics. Great Video!
@wparo
@wparo 6 жыл бұрын
Okay so I've soldered 5 q-tips onto the back board. game still not booting. What am I doing wrong?
@specificdeterministic5928
@specificdeterministic5928 6 жыл бұрын
How did you even do that? S A R C A S M D E T E C T E D
@SirDuckyTTV
@SirDuckyTTV 6 жыл бұрын
Monster Inc. hands down my favorite movie of my childhood
@leslieaveskaters
@leslieaveskaters 3 жыл бұрын
The pencil eraser method already helped me get my megaman dr. willy's revenge, and gargoyle's quest working again. Almost every cart I had issues with. Thanks a lot for the help and good explanations.
@jok3yjesu339
@jok3yjesu339 6 жыл бұрын
That capacitor was like that before it was crooked but definitely after you got your soldering iron out it came off likely from the heat coming off of the tip indicating probably a bad solder joint that's what I think
@Digibait20
@Digibait20 4 жыл бұрын
ive been trying to fix my pokemon silver game for days and you have saved my life
@NearEDGE
@NearEDGE 6 жыл бұрын
I've got this paused at 7:21 because I wanted to note something interesting based on my knowledge of the Gameboy. When you plug the cartridge in it boots up and shows a nice pristine Nintendo logo which is an indicator that it was actually making proper contact with all of the pins on the header even before they were cleaned. You see, with how the copy/error protection of the Gameboy works the GBC checks the initial data in the ROM header and if it doesn't return what's expected, or otherwise can't be read properly, it just simply won't progress from that point forward. So what we can say for sure is that the initial boot checks run as expected, and the Gameboy Color is in fact reading memory bank 0 just fine. Now the issue with the cartridge is from when it actually tries to load the game itself which results in just a permanent loop on a cleared screen, which was actually cleared by the BIOS itself. What this says to me is that the Gameboy is reading all NOP instructions which we know must be coming from a memory bank other than bank 0 so there could be an issue with the MBC-5 chip or it could just simply be that the upper banks of the memory have an issue, or potentially worse, have been cleared due to age or some other issue. Let's see what else happens in the video now!
@NearEDGE
@NearEDGE 6 жыл бұрын
I've just seen the cartridge boot up and I wish you had tested between reflowing each chip, but of course there wouldn't really be any logical reason for you to do so, lol I'm pretty confident that the MBC was at fault here so I bet there was just a poor connection between it and the board when you started since the ROM was being read from just fine. At the beginning of the boot sequence there's absolutely no interaction between the MBC and the Gameboy as the ROM will always start cold from bank 0, and the boot sequence will never request a bank change as gameboy cartridges didn't use memory banks when that BIOS was first created and even if they did, the BIOS doesn't really have much of a use for them anyways. In any case, you did a great job and I hope the information I shared can be of some use to you in the future to speed up your troubleshooting process if nothing else!
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
You're right. The MBC seems to be a common culprit in faulty gb games. I have done 2 or 3 which have been that chip. I like to do them all in one shot, mostly just as a time saver though, as outside of educational purposes, it doesnt make sense to go one at a time. Luckily, unless there's a bad ROM, these are relatively easy to fix
@PooCrizzap
@PooCrizzap 8 ай бұрын
Used the ideas from this video and fixed my old copy of yellow version! Had to reflow the solder and it worked! Thank you 🙏
@dev639
@dev639 5 жыл бұрын
The eraser is pretty convenient at scrubing a oxide layer, however, their abrasiveness can not be underestimated and you will notice that fingers which are constantly cleaned with a eraser look much less golden, I've had a client in the past with a failing RAM module whose fingers looked very silver due to the rubber abrasiveness. I myself I'd rather take longer with the cuetip and isopropyl.
@svenkraker
@svenkraker 6 жыл бұрын
Cool video man, and props for fixing that board with that big soldering tip!
@Slime_Head
@Slime_Head 6 жыл бұрын
How do you find good deals on ebay? Do you look for stuff inside Canada instead of the US? A lot of interesting things come up from the states but the shipping always seems too expensive to be worth it
@bunnybird12
@bunnybird12 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I really enjoyed the amount of detail you included- much more informational than videos from other people I've watched.
@vargnaar
@vargnaar 5 жыл бұрын
Love learning little things here and there from your videos. Thank you for making them. They are fantastic.
@porscheandbeetle
@porscheandbeetle 5 жыл бұрын
You definitely helped me out with this video. My GB game was the problem. Its back in my collection and off the work bench.
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Awesome to hear
@Smartfunnyandlazy
@Smartfunnyandlazy 6 жыл бұрын
76 repair shop owners downvoted this video lol.
@jagerfelice
@jagerfelice 6 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say this video helped me repair two GBC games that I didn't think would work! Thanks so much.
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
Jager Felice awesome to hear. I've done this to two GB games so far, never had to do it to a different type of cart yet, so I suspect GB carts are prone to this
@jagerfelice
@jagerfelice 6 жыл бұрын
I think so as well. I had an n64 cart that pulled two traces up so i'm happy these were easily repairable. One showed life when i rubbed isopropyl alcohol over the rom pins and the other was a surprise to get working! Reflowed the solder on both sides of the rom. I think your flux recommendation is spot on. I did it with a pen type soldering iron dry and it was a pain.
@Tomsonic41
@Tomsonic41 5 жыл бұрын
I had a Super Mario DX cartridge that gradually seemed to be getting more and more corrupted (missing graphics, obstacles in wrong places, etc) and eventually did this exact same thing - stuck at a white screen after the Nintendo logo. I tried opening it up and removing/shorting the save battery in case the SRAM was corrupt, but to no avail.
@rokuterra
@rokuterra 4 жыл бұрын
Huge thanks for this, my Pokemon Blue game started to glitch out and become unplayable once any NPC text appeared on the screen. Glad it worked too because I ordered a new label for it since my copy's sticker is very old and worn, now I can continue to use it without worry of it not working anymore.
@Eremon1
@Eremon1 6 жыл бұрын
That fact you can re-solder a small capacitor like that through a camera is crazy! I don't think I could do that even without a camera in my face!
@RetroRepairs
@RetroRepairs 6 жыл бұрын
My camera zooms better than i can see, so unless you've got a magnifying glass, i find it easier
@stamoulohta
@stamoulohta 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video man. And just for reference the square chip is called mbc (memory bank controller). It is used when the game is bigger than what the Gameboy 'naively' supported. Cheers!
@Darkl0ud_Productions
@Darkl0ud_Productions 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video but i would HIGHLY recommend getting a different tip for your iron. The reason why your chip looks cooked is because the huge iron you have is throwing off tons of excess heat. I'd recommend something with a smaller more conical shape, much better for working with smaller electronics. Nevermind, just watched a newer video and you already got a new tip. lol
@Der_Kleine_Mann
@Der_Kleine_Mann 4 жыл бұрын
It's always worth to try to rescue a game cartridge. Every cartridge that doesn't land in the trash is good. I sometimes buy those lots of for example 4 Gameboy color games for 20€ on ebay, where I don't know what I get before they arrive, and often times there are games in these lots that I wouldn't have bought normally, but their actually pretty good games.
@InnerBushman
@InnerBushman 6 жыл бұрын
The chip is Memory Bank Controller ver. 5. It's a custom chip from Nintendo to play games bigger than 32kb. I hope that answers your question.
@radicalraccoon
@radicalraccoon 2 жыл бұрын
The C2 capacitor already seemed to have had a broken solder joint before you introduced any heat to the board.
@Caswagna93
@Caswagna93 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video.. but I just used this as a guide to fix my copy of Pokémon blue. It wouldn’t load until I reflowed the big ROM chip. Now she’s good for another 20 years of service
@petermichaelgreen
@petermichaelgreen 5 жыл бұрын
The game-boy was reading the nintendo logo and deciding to try and start the game, so the data and low-number address lines were almost certainly ok, my guess would be either one of the higher-numbered address lines (either from cart connector to rom or MBC to rom) was bad or that the capacitor was not soldered down properly and this was causing signal integrety issues. The square chip BTW is what nintendo calls a "memory bank controller", it's main function is to allow the use of roms bigger than the 32KB the game-boy can natively address it also has some features related to save-ram, but those are not used in this particular cart.
@ajdhjaoakdn2ndgoogleaccoun929
@ajdhjaoakdn2ndgoogleaccoun929 6 жыл бұрын
i like to put on ur vids when i go to bed, helps me fall asleep (cuz theres no background music or anything)
@1959Berre
@1959Berre 6 жыл бұрын
To hold an SMD component in place, do not use tweezers. Press the component down to the PCB with a toothpick which you hold vertically (perpendicular to the PCB). This way, you will not tremble as you do with tweezers; the component will stay perfectly put.
@famicomdisksystem
@famicomdisksystem 6 жыл бұрын
This is cool. I might be able to fix the Zelda Oracle of Ages cart I've had laying around forever.
@tsuikagura
@tsuikagura 3 жыл бұрын
You just saved me the boxed Elevator Action I found the other day in a shop ^~^ It didn't work, now it does! Thank you!
@TheLukesterGaming
@TheLukesterGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Another awesome job on the restoration, this was certainly an interesting video to watch through, as well as being educational about learning the workings of such a little game cartridge on the inside, but most importantly I'm glad you got this game working again in the end too! :)
@hankster1128
@hankster1128 5 жыл бұрын
Had this game as a kid, hard as hell, but loved it
@queerkobold4374
@queerkobold4374 5 жыл бұрын
Hello adam, I'm trying to use this guide to repair a Pokemon TCG cart for the gbc, but I've reflowed and cleaned all the pins to no avail. All of the traces look good too, any suggestions?
@stevenlenaour1792
@stevenlenaour1792 5 жыл бұрын
Hello @Flying Man, i try to do the same as you in this moment, dis you repaired yours?
@hornface3566
@hornface3566 6 жыл бұрын
I used to do this with phones and laptops lol. People threw them on ebay when there's water damage or some tiny component damage. I flipped them for a profit. Unfortunately, a lot of people do the same now. So you often see something that starts at $20 auction and ends at around $300. Times like that you'll be lucky to turn a $70 profit.
@fixerup3112
@fixerup3112 6 жыл бұрын
Just reflowing the chip fixes about 90% of the problems with Gameboy games not working.
@Falcodrin
@Falcodrin 6 жыл бұрын
Fixer up yay for low quality solder
@Murlockingqc
@Murlockingqc 6 жыл бұрын
English ?
@EvertGuzman
@EvertGuzman 6 жыл бұрын
Murlockingqc His English looks good to me.
@Murlockingqc
@Murlockingqc 6 жыл бұрын
You guys don't see the (edited) ?
@ricksta760oside
@ricksta760oside 4 жыл бұрын
Fixer up what temperature should it be set at?
@kmiondeuvas
@kmiondeuvas 4 жыл бұрын
Have the same problem with the same game , did the re soldering and works now , thanks!!!
@XeonProductions
@XeonProductions 5 жыл бұрын
The little chip was the MBC5 memory mapper chip.
@pawelharutiunow9622
@pawelharutiunow9622 6 жыл бұрын
4:45 MAGIC OH MY IT IS SO ADDICTIVE TO WATCH
@WildVoltorb
@WildVoltorb 6 жыл бұрын
This game sucks Good graphics though
@onldhes
@onldhes 6 жыл бұрын
milkbullet I feel like that was a thing with the GBC. The game either had average graphics and was (usually) great or it had amazing graphics and sucked.
@WildVoltorb
@WildVoltorb 6 жыл бұрын
Shelcod Unfortunely there's a lot of shovelware for the GBC, but i tend to prefer it's graphics over the GBA's shovelware - way too many badly done pre-rendered 3D graphics. GBC graphics at least had some passion behind it
@Zulf85
@Zulf85 6 жыл бұрын
I had a Shrek fighting game that sucked in both
@fatman7064
@fatman7064 6 жыл бұрын
Voltorb It was just fucking hard
@christopherbownes494
@christopherbownes494 6 жыл бұрын
Holy cow that game was so hard. Never fully beat it. The ginger bread man was a nightmare.
@BUZZKILLJRJR
@BUZZKILLJRJR 9 күн бұрын
Old er video but absolutely awesome!
@oldscoolgaming.5040
@oldscoolgaming.5040 6 жыл бұрын
those surface mount components are so tiny.last time i had to solder one of those in i had my watch makers eyeglass jammed in my eye. it is so hard to get em to stay where you want em to be as well.
@johnpratt7519
@johnpratt7519 5 жыл бұрын
A suggestion: To make it easier to follow the traces and work on them you should get a magnifying work light such as the one available on Ebay at Desk Magnifying Lamp With Clamp Craft Glass Loupe Lab Work Light Magnifier Salon
@babylonfive
@babylonfive 6 жыл бұрын
I love your giant soldering iron!
@111455
@111455 6 жыл бұрын
surprised more people aren't freaking out about the voltage output (however small) from the continuity tester zapping the i/c's
@zacharymorin5696
@zacharymorin5696 6 жыл бұрын
This game bring backs so many memories
@3dsandsma5h16
@3dsandsma5h16 6 жыл бұрын
u desserve more subs edit :WOW thats the most likes i ever got on a comment
@legomyeggo1812
@legomyeggo1812 6 жыл бұрын
He does
@ajdhjaoakdn2ndgoogleaccoun929
@ajdhjaoakdn2ndgoogleaccoun929 6 жыл бұрын
u deserve spelling lessons
@TheChoice.Kiyosaki
@TheChoice.Kiyosaki 6 жыл бұрын
You* Deserve*
@ajdhjaoakdn2ndgoogleaccoun929
@ajdhjaoakdn2ndgoogleaccoun929 6 жыл бұрын
Dancing Mudkipz, ok...
@ajdhjaoakdn2ndgoogleaccoun929
@ajdhjaoakdn2ndgoogleaccoun929 6 жыл бұрын
*spells deserve the exact same way i do*
@ylemscalamity
@ylemscalamity 6 жыл бұрын
I used to have that same cooler gameboy.. Lot of good memories with that thing
@AkanoWire
@AkanoWire 6 жыл бұрын
Im not sure about this, but when you checked the connections on the pcb and touch the wrong wires, you could potentially destroy some components, because of the voltage of the multimeter, no?
@Cra1gst
@Cra1gst 6 жыл бұрын
Very satisfying !!! Love board repairs like this
@murrij
@murrij 6 жыл бұрын
Love those itty bitty SMD parts. Not.
@juansillas8218
@juansillas8218 6 жыл бұрын
A good but cheap alternative to a magnifying glass is using your phones camera, sometimes the zoom can be pretty great at times
@jok3yjesu339
@jok3yjesu339 6 жыл бұрын
I've noticed some people not replace the solder I would recommend using brand new solder never old solder
@Inurantchan
@Inurantchan 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I have a couple of childhood games I love that have this exact thing happen when I stick them into my gameboy. I had more but the alcohol cleaning fixed most of them right up. I've held onto the ones that don't work for sentimental reasons, so I'm glad I'll finally be able to fix them someday (after I've bought all the parts necessary, and test out the technique on another game idc about lol).
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