Fixing Sonic Heroes?!

[@Vanilla_Rice1]

Have y’all played Sonic Heroes? If so what fixes or additions to the game y’all think could make it better? Let me know!

[@CannedDepression]

The only way to fix sonic heroes is to make it not be sonic heroes

[@sharmarkeabdullahi2437]

None it’s perfect ❤

[@DuelSenseEdgeDrift.]

The 2 replies above this one are two of the most different perspectives from 2 people talking bout the same title who love the same franchise 😂(lol) gotta love t sonic community,

[@acegamer476]

No they need to change the alligator sequence everything else should stay the same

[@xaviersejour9183]

I hate going too fast on the bullet station underground trains or The mystic mansion three bridges. Basically I hate dying through clipping through fin floors

[@That_Kasual_Gamer]

I thought I was the only one who thought this game was the best of all time. I’m glad to see there are other people like me!

[@hamzagamalelgamal]

IT'S LITERALLY THE BEST. Grew up playing it.

[@dioguin3120]

STOP SPAMING THE TRICK BUTTON ON RAILS. YOU HAVE TO HOLD IT!!!

[@hammbonethegamer4505]

But it’s fun!

[@aquaponieee]

​​@@hammbonethegamer4505it's not fun and you go much slower it's like spamming the d-pad instead of holding it down in Mario

[@reimaginethesounds6694]

Never knew about this 😮

[@kadenhorrocks7182]

When I first played Heroes, it took me an embarrassing amount of time to realize that's what you had to do

[@michawhite7613]

Yeah I always thought you had to spam it. I didn't learn about holding it until I kept dying in Team Dark's Final Fortress

[@KiaraLionessTM]

Sonic Heroes is my all time favourite game! I’d love to see a remaster of it with these changed 😁❤️

[@sidneydavis1365]

Hopefully 2024 🙏🏾

[@MrNeedleM0use]

HEROES IS ACTUAL PEAK. A tier game imo. My literal hottest take is that Heroes is better than Gens lol

[@Vanilla_Rice1]

I love Generations to death, but yea Heroes beats it for me too!

[@MrNeedleM0use]

@@Vanilla_Rice1 I HAVE FOUND ANOTHER LIKE ME

[@AccelerateHedge]

Holy shit I've discovered an ancient relic

[@MrNeedleM0use]

@ notice the one year ago 😭😭. When I used to think the game is good

[@AccelerateHedge]

@@MrNeedleM0use That's what I meant by ancient relic lol

[@songohan5866]

Well there apparently a remake coming so hopefully these fixes are in the remake.

[@nicki_mustaine]

I miss this game, my first introduction to modern sonic

[@xBlaster]

Sonic's fear of water isn't because he can't swim, that's the result, he's scared of big water animals like orcas and gators 💀👍

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

Then why did he see a weird ass water monster like Chaos and go "Aw yeah! This can be fun"

[@sermicha5324]

@@Breakaway-ic5gjHe was simply in an “Aw yeah this is happening” arc

[@r.kedsmash]

“Oh snackazoinks “

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Alter the Pinballs Physics or Alter the Level design to be more Platforming based for the Carnival Levels, preferably the latter change.

[@Summit8351]

If only I could've played this absolute masterpiece of a game. No matter how buggy it may be.

[@Raikeran]

idk if you have a good pc but i ended up emulating Heroes on mine after years of wishing to replay it so theres that

[@MadelineJS.2727]

First of all, Those are pretty good suggestions and they could improve Sonic Heroes quite a bit, In fact, I had thought that they could make you choose to form a team with your favorite characters, like in Advance 3 but with three characters But I will resign myself to emphasizing that "oooohhhh Snackazoinks"

[@theanonymousgamer4638]

For the Knuckles/Chaotix interaction, Izuka said that Knuckles Chaotix isn't canon anymore in an interview which is why Knuckles doesn't interact with Team Chaotix in any way in Heroes 😢

[@BeegChaosControls]

Nope it’s canon now. New TailsTube Confirmed It. Wonder why they don’t interact tho

[@wuavo9157]

@@BeegChaosControlsmaybe because tails tube is 20 years after Sonic Heroes release?? Peanut brain

[@MeepinMeh]

​@@wuavo9157well actually they do have an "interaction" between each other (albeit a different language but still an interaction) so >:P

[@TheShadowspear2]

The reason they didn't do Team Sonic Vs. Chaotix and Team Dark Vs. Rose is because they didn't want to expand the story because they were trying to keep it simple for new fans without them having to go back and play the other games to understand what's going on.

[@thatguy8636]

Maybe one day someone will make a Fan Project for Heroes like ChaosX did For Sonic 06

[@solly1430]

The music in Heros is probably the best OST the series ever had.

[@Vanilla_Rice1]

So many great Sonic OSTs it's so hard to choose, but Heroes may be my number 1 too!

[@gjuliocobain]

Me, with Frontiers OST in my backpack. Jokes aside, you're right it's so hard to choose just one OST. Sonic OST games are fire, all of them.

[@damonke7674]

you're insane

[@kingjiy2778]

Sa2 is top, Heroes 2nd, and Unleahed 3rd. No debate

[@EternoAprendiz.]

I also love Sonic Heroes. Was my first 3-D Sonic Game. And my favorite Ps2 game.

[@rym99]

I have never played Sonic Heroes

[@heyzbeauz]

They should also make the story better, and cutscenes better, and characters better, and controls better, and everything else.

[@Vanilla_Rice1]

😂😂😂

[@aquaponieee]

the story is pretty great, though they opted for a simpler story rather than a complex one like in the Adventure series. the overall game is not very story focused

[@shadowspike74]

As someone who started with this game over 10 years ago and still love it to this day. I agree with a lot of the issue's. And it would be nice to fix a lot of the issue's.

[@Roman_the_black_cat]

I dont remember what position they had but someone in sega said during pre-release or an interview that they didnt "use the chaotix" but instead took thier looks and names and made whole new characters which is essentially what they did, this is why knuckles doesnt recognise them at all despite knuckles's chaotix (yes its actually pronounced knuckles's)

[@AsukyLovesMaiSan]

SONIC UNLEASHED BETTA🗣

[@kylebrackett9800]

I just want this game to officially be brought to PC so I can play on controller again. I also think if they did a remake, they should give fan service to giving characters super forms that we have never seen yet like team chaotic.

[@wuavo9157]

it already has a PC port though?

[@kylebrackett9800]

@@wuavo9157 I have it but controller support is pretty bad. I've been trying to figure it out for about a month now. Pressing the jump button opens the start menu.

[@aimiaznan18]

this is the most enjoyable sonic game i’ve evee played. the most thing i love about sonic heroes is being they play with a team character so it’s more challenging and fun because of the different abilities in each character. ❤

[@sonarblast4920]

Lets be hopeful it gets remastered soon

[@idontjustdrawstuff_]

I have some ideas Don't put fly characters in a tower formations (Based on power cores ) Speed=increased top speed Fly=increased energy when moving whilst flying Power=more damage to enemies

[@Twillek1019_]

I never had issues with the light speed dash or the rail grinds, but the other stuff I did. But Heroes is still my favourite sonic game

[@Mansjdj]

In my opinion generations is the best but good vid

[@SPIDERKN1GHT0327]

Hot Take: Mighty should’ve been the leader of the Chaotix, and replace Charmy

[@dashthehedgehog2612]

I have so many hours in this game that the slipperiness is basically nonexistent to me now. Also, Team Babylon would be sick.

[@ZeronTracks]

Actually the power character slide is optional don't hold the joystick and they'll stand in place and spam punch it makes taking down those huge egg robots so much easier.

[@jorykimbrell]

Please Remaster or Remake this one Sega

[@Mr.IDK07]

I think they want tell us that Chaotix/Knuckles Chaotix is non canon

[@michaelsleeman2443]

The light speed dash actually works 100% of the time... if you're in the air😅. In all seriousness though the dash works really well when you jump and (almost) land near the rings, I guess you need to be airborne for it to work that well. My biggest gripe is it's the same level layout in the same order. There's small differences between the teams, but the game should at least try different level orders. I get that could mess with difficulty as you could have the Mystic Mansion be level 2 (conceivably), but they could throw easier enemies or pull a Team Rose and shorten the level to avoid the nastier parts of the level. I guess it depends, but regardless, it feels weak to go through the same levels with slightly different characters. A different order of levels between the teams might help, as it would make the next team run feel more unique.

[@Luiki491]

It would be cool tohave teams such as: Jet, Wave and Storm, Blaze, Silver and Marine and maybe even teams like Fang, Bean and Bark and maybe Honey, Ray and Mighty

[@appleandaria6947]

I was thinking that we could also have Tangle/Whisper/Jewel since they seem pretty popular and I was thinking having Mighty and Ray in a team with newcomer Trip. But I don't know much about the franchise; would Honey be a better fit than Trip? Edit: now that I've thought about it, Honey could be kept with Mighty and Ray while Trip would be the Power character for a team with Classic!Sonic and Classic!Tails. Yes, I'm aware that Classic!Sonic and Classic!Tails would have to be handled very carefully to not upset too many people!

[@ScalyRaptor1944]

the whole adding new teams sounds more like a sonic heroes 2

[@pvzmariosonica8fan]

Sonic Generations 3DS reuses Heroes' special stages. If you've played Generations 3DS, how do you feel about this?

[@SenzuYamcha768]

Yeah like Come on Knuckles has to interact with the Chaotixs legit had a whole game together and knuckles formed the whole group lmao

[@icewaterk]

flying character attack is my issue like no way rogue is blind as a bat

[@paulo547]

Ask Sega to do a remake at this point

[@thewilliamsanimationprojec822]

This more so sounds like a sequel than a remaster

[@AceIsnt_here64]

I honestly like that idea since i played sonic heroes on the ps2 but great game needs some more improvements

[@CoreyHall-c1x]

I don't disagree with a single thing you said in this video...bro I thought I was the only one who feel this way about heroes. And the things you said about new teams and different attack I agree completely

[@blackdot105]

If you wanna switch grind rails, let go of the acceleration.

[@etherealhatred]

Chaotix "starring Knuckles the equidna" (as the original game was) is known to be retconed decades ago

[@Iguro-sonic]

I love Sonic Heroes with only thing I hate about it is it ruined Amy's character

[@Brucifer2]

While i dont think its the best Sonic game, it definitely gets more hate than it deserves. I believe it still holds the world record for most playable characters in a platformer!

[@pancakecookie5353]

I just got a bad idea. Team Metal Metal Sonic for speed, Mecha Sonic for flight, and Silver Sonic for power. I know this is a terrible idea but I just wanted to share it.

[@chaoraiser2338]

Honestly hear me out i get rhe complaints but I've really never had these problems once you get use to the slighr slipperiness its really easy to control even when moving fast next when grinding if your trying to go fast hold down the button instead of just spamming it it helps build speed but you will still be slow if your not holding it also lean with the rail so you get faster when turning when switching rails make sure you don instantly jump off wait about a second before doing so you usually won't fall off tbh also when you light speed dash get a tiny bit of height when you do it your more guaranteed for it to work then if you just stay on the ground this also slightly applies to ground light speed dashing too finally when it comes to leveling up i would said level 2 is best for knuckles and omega but level three is better for air enemies or if they are slightly further and won't be effected flying once you level up you can thunder shoot more enemies at once because the characters won't take damage level three is the best because and should honestly be at least the second to get third on level uping because flying characters at level three will destroy most enemies with one hit and even take down the rock shields and they have magnetic ring collection when thunder shooting also even though its not that noticeable they do fly a bit longer and make sure you thinder shoot when flying the gsme treats it as if your not moving in the air when flying if thunder shooting so it gives more time to reach the destination also if your playing on PC if you use the glitch glide with knuckles or really any character in that section of the level that can glide you can shoot off to the next ship saving a lot of time on a rail in egg fleet this also technically applies with final fortress but not as much it just gets you further also note on PC the speed characters damage animation does play right like its suppose to so team battles are a tint bit more challenging but tbh they've always been my favorite part of the game so yeah

[@tristianbrown9245]

What about New Teams: Team Sol: Blaze, Silver, and Gmerl Team Oldies: Mighty, Ray, and Tiara Team Babylon: Jet, Wave, and Storm And Team Robotnik: Metal Sonic, Tails Doll, and Metal Knuckles

[@unknownnstuff9635]

Are there any versions in steamdeck switch or ps4 that’s all I have

[@Vanilla_Rice1]

Sadly not, the game hasn't been ported or rereleased in almost any capacity besides a brief stint on PC that was taken down and as a digital backwards compatible game on PlayStation Network in Japan and the UK only. Hopefully we get a remaster, remake, or at least a port to modern consoles soon 🤞

[@aquaponieee]

you can only emulate the GameCube version or get the old PC port running on Lutris or something

[@unknownnstuff9635]

@@aquaponieeeI got it by emulating it on my new gaming pc

[@Espurr.8]

I need co-op in story mode

[@ShattertheYThog]

Let vanilla rice COOK👌

[@shaniceb.5129]

The slippery mechanics in Sonic Heroes annoyed the heck out of me.

[@cadegamersquid8484]

I rage quit the pinball level, never went back since. also played it on ps2

[@DefaultNPC14]

Wow, cant wait for the update thats gonna fix all this 😀

[@Eliza81751]

And they could represent the teams better and not make the chaotix search for things

[@AxionGaming2139]

Puls the team battles should be a more difficult to take on

[@commalob]

I probaby glitched the game 15 times getting caught by the gator on ps2

[@pearsareawful9006]

I don’t get people’s issues with the rails. I’ve never had a problem. I can switch back and forth without an inkling of fear yet I see people being flung off into the beyond. What am I doing right that others are doing wrong?

[@damiencromwell1939]

I hated the alligator segment took me almost a year to beat with team sonic and dark

[@meoron]

Oh yes sonic heroes is the best sonic game of all time I agree, and how dare you insult this game it is absolutely perfect and has no flaws whatsoever

[@skychamp11]

Literally just split the acts in half so the levels aren’t so long

[@jcsonicprime]

And also give us super sonic in regular stages

[@chris1229sonic]

Sonic heroes and Megaman And bass are the greatest games ever PEAK

[@slapsmans6900]

Fire take 💎

[@bioniclefan117]

Silver fly blaze speed ? Power

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Maybe having Metal Sonic in their team.

[@imory4492]

@@Terminal_Apotosit would be cool but metal sonic is speed

[@Terminal_Apotos]

@@imory4492 He’s a robot so being able to punch through solid walls should be easy

[@screamoneo]

i fvcking love heroes

[@CypherNeoMetal]

Pfff, what a joke. Sonic Heroes is good, but it will never compare to the best game of all time: Sonic Schoolhouse Jokes aside, even though Sonic Heroes is the first game I've played in my life, I'm not going to let nostalgia blind me, and I'm going to say that Heroes is overrated af.

[@CuteRedPanda64]

True.

[@soncraftthehedgehog]

“Greatest sonic game ever” That’s going a little too far Sonic adventure 1 and 2 where better

[@LobotomyTC]

I would say Sonic 06 is unironically in the same tier as Heroes. Heroes just isn't a good game, and the only reason anyone likes it is because they were a baby when it came out.

[@swiischees3049]

Makethe fly character be able to move on their own like the speed and power characters

[@Hunter-cx6]

Knuckles’ chaotix not canon.

[@spsfitnessstrudley7718]

I hated this game as a kid and tbf I still do 😂

[@Rats0World]

More teams would mean more playthroughs, and that's not a fix

[@sonicandgavin5227]

I agree 👍

[@ItsDonBro]

Sonic Heroes needs a remake. But not a FF7 Remake

[@CuteRedPanda64]

What do you mean?

[@ItsDonBro]

​@@CuteRedPanda64a remake being broken up into 3 parts over the next 10 years. We don't want that for Sonic.

[@Indominus011]

The mwal tram

[@HHedgehog115]

Sonic unleashed IS THE best sonic game

[@JaidenAsh]

I was gonna buy it till I realised I don’t have an Xbox

[@Nister.N]

Truly

[@xaviersejour9183]

I want new stages. 10 to 15 Be honest I could probably beat the game get last story and completing A record without a single day.

[@samcandles]

"greatest game ever" proceeds to list off half the problems that make it the worst sonic game

[@thawkade]

Even with it's issues, it's not even close to being the worst lmao

[@Swaloo]

that intro made me scroll come back and then want to bleach my ears. i want to have a debate with you on why your are ao very wrong.

[@geezerton1404]

I've played it it's alright I don't love it and I don't hate it just doesn't feel right to me for some reason kind of like shadow the hedgehog

[@damonke7674]

yeah make them not look like a plastic toy

[@curajacaster]

doesnt need fixing

[@michaelthefurrycat2093]

Asking too much?

[@Toydominic]

Am I the only person who thinks Sonic Heroes is not a good game?

[@HHedgehog115]

NO

[@Feeeshmannnnnn]

Hero’s sucked

[@HHedgehog115]

Im sorry but sonic heroes is not the best sonic game

[@eran1xd588]

It's not the best game ever please stop

[@hammbonethegamer4505]

Agree to disagree

[@eran1xd588]

@hammbonethegamer4505 oh, this game is buggy. Cut scenes are shit compared to now many way better games has came out get yo wack as line out of here

[@DuelSenseEdgeDrift.]

Good but could be better.

[@DuelSenseEdgeDrift.]

Highest selling 3d sonic title (4 mil), I hope everyone helps frontiers(3.5 mil march 2023) pass it sonic team put in the work it deserves it. Im planning on picking it up this month, after 3 updates it's worth it😊 #SonicSweep

[@eran1xd588]

@@DuelSenseEdgeDrift. highest SONIC game not the best game. Next please

[@NithProYT]

game is mid

[@calebmartinez8336]

I genuinely cant understand how sonic fans can like literal garbage games. Its astounding tbh i literally cannot believe it

[@daddydman2860]

Oh shoot