Fixing the Perfect Season - McLaren MP4/4 and 1988 F1 in Automobilista 2

[@Jimmy_Broadbent]

Best sim-tuber rn

[@F1stuff972]

Repent and believe in the gospel

[@edrocun]

You realize the level of immersion this is when the comments are blaming Senna and not the game's AI. Prime content!

[@ghostdog688]

Man I love this old Monza config, and also the “classic” Imola. I remember the tracks of the late 80s and early 90s as absolutely fascinating.

[@jayfox601]

Because they were man. Every circuit had something of it’s own. Old Adelaide, old Spa old busstop, old Hockenheim, old Magny-Cours old Silverstone. Back when F1 was the real deal 😊

[@rolux4853]

It’s such a shame that they just destroyed Hockenheim instead of just keeping it for classic events or other races that aren’t F1.. Unfortunately the immensely important cultural history of racetracks gets destroyed all the time.. Racing got so much more boring there’s nothing really special to the modern tracks anymore or they don’t go to interesting locations anymore. Remember when the CART series went to the only oval in Germany? The Eurospeedway Lausitz at the Lausitzring, that was absolutely amazing! Unfortunately there was the very sad accident with Zanardi, but that had nothing to do with the track. The track is just amazing and super special for Germany that only has roadcourses!

[@ghostdog688]

@@rolux4853 while the loss of old tracks isn’t anything new, it’s always a shame. As I recall, for Hockenheim, it ultimately, comes down to how feasible it was to keep the track safe with marshals, and maintained. By the time the old parts of the course were being retired, it had long been overdue safety improvements that simply were too expensive to make IIRC.

[@rolux4853]

@@ghostdog688 yep that’s the official explanation, but it’s BS honestly! I live in Germany and we have historic races (mostly hillclimbs and local tracks) without any safety equipment, just hayballs lile goodwood. Safety is not a problem for historical racing events! It’s greedy owners and investors that don’t live in Germany and never cared about racing but profit who kill this important piece of German heritage off. It’s just disgusting that it’s not honored as the historic site it should be! There’s fare more BS honored in Germany, especially in the dirty big cities where junk and very questionable memorials are declared historical and millions of euros put in by the state to keep it in good condition. Instead of memorials for the (g) rape (ists) and murderers of Russians red army in Berlin build after WW2 by the fascist government of eastern Germany, forced under Russian oppression, they could’ve easily saved this glorious racetrack! The red army and their leaders where as bad as Hitler, so every of their memorials needs to be torn down! They are fascists in a red coat..

[@ghostdog688]

@@rolux4853 personally, I have no issue with revisions to safety requirements requiring changes be made. If the tracks don’t want to make the changes, that’s their choice as well. The fact that local hillclimbs and small tracks are a symptom that they are underfunded, not a symptom that other people are greedy. Furthermore, there’s a large difference between marshalling a mile or two of course, and the many miles of the full hockenheim course - not to mention the difficulties and cost in putting medical teams and fast responders up to the far edges of the track. Frankly, I’m astounded that Le Mans, Spa and Monaco are still active in the upper echelons of motorsport as they must be a logistical nightmare to support. But I guess they must be making enough money at those tracks to cover that. When hockenheim was it’s larger lengths in the early 90s, the track didn’t make a profit at all for years, and the event only stayed at hockenheim thanks to government subsidy. It appears that your dislike of the German and European government’s cultural services branch may be a tad misplaced in that respect, but I don’t know enough about the other things you mentioned regarding former Soviet statues. All I know is that we still have it in racing sims, and that’s enough for me at the moment.

[@Paolo_Pinkas747]

What a great video... Senna would say that Prost have hit him... Prost would say, that he closed the door. Anger, passion, rivalry... great!

[@mgrzx3367]

Sweet video. From 1984 when I found Formula One on ESPN, I was a Prost fan instantly. He really had to work for his titles. I even wrote him when he started Prost GP, and he actually wrote me back with a thank you note and a postcard with his and his drivers that years' autographs. Didn't expect that. Nice guy, maybe too nice, but a great driver. Arigatou GPLaps. 🤩💘🌸

[@gilles6102]

The contact made me laugh and then brought a tear in my eyes...

[@johnnygreen37]

this version of T1 in monza is my favorite one!, honestly I don't know if they changed it for safety or something else.... anyways it is a problem we don't have to really deal in simracing! nice video as always!! keep it up =D

[@Nickyy64]

Good day Jake!

[@Nickyy64]

Classic senna Prost moment

[@BD12]

12:40 I can hear Murray Walker here

[@ajst784]

Great video! would love to see a drive as Gilles Villeneuve in either the Ferrari 126 c2 battle of Gilles vs Pironi at Imola or the 312T4 at Dijon Arnoux vs Villeneuve

[@davidcoates9123]

Brilliant, more like this please Jake.

[@RacingWithChuck27]

The mp4/4 was an iconic car and ams2 is very good. Although after 1.5 the grip is a little much. The 1.5.03 fixed other cars but didn’t touch the Gen2 F1 cars. The feel needs to go back to 1.48. Great video, again

[@jimmy-the-bear]

Love your videos man, basically gets me through my work day running these in the back ground. Usually I then jump on the sim rig and have a go at whatever races you have done, love it!

[@Jt7166]

I’ve really been enjoying AMS2 lately. Mostly for historical races like this. Hope one day we can find a way to either get the old 1988 F1 tracks from rfactor2 ported over to this game or Reiza add a few more tracks from that era. Modern Paul Ricard can get lost but I love the 1988 layout and would be ecstatic to drive it with modern tech and graphics in AMs2

[@rogerkuchel5780]

Great vid - best Classic F1 in AMS2, love it at Monza, Montreal, Kyalami & especially Adelaide!!

[@Atreidez]

I think he should have left space :)

[@chifurbr]

didn't expect AI to be this realistic

[@AmbientMike]

Definitly gonna add this to tonight's AMS sesh!

[@FloridaManRacer]

I'm so glad you left this 'take' of the race alone. That was a flashback moment to 8 yrs old watching on ESPN as Senna and Prost go into turn 1 at Suzuka... AMS2 has come a hell of a long way in the last year or so. That's probably one of my favorite moments in a sim racing video. Sorry you didn't win it, but damn that was cool.

[@marcusbunce3406]

So glad you left that tangle in the video.. racing incident in the day,, today 🙈😤 points and penalties, and grid punishment,,😩😖 Heard the car ad Goodwood,, what a rasp,, amazing,, 👍🏼👍🏼 By the way,, Senna. Shot across your bow,, ☠️ 🤭

[@TomKayll]

Beautiful stuff as always. Bit too early in the year, but I'd love to see some sort of historic FF video celebrating the Formula Ford Festival at Brands Hatch in late October. Late autumnal racing at the very tail of the British season

[@dextermchaze]

Sick. IMO best sim racing content on youtube.

[@HeyItsAJOmega]

'It's a great excuse to go racing'. Amen, Jake. Uploaded this right as I sat down to eat my dinner, absolutely perfect timing

[@OgamiItto70]

Some days are like that. Nice vid (as usual).

[@michaelflaherty3202]

My man did a Crank It Up lap. Good times. That engine sounds amazing.

[@n8pls543]

Gotta love that 1.5 liter Turbo V6 in the MP4/4

[@JogatinaDesvairada]

great race! Grande corrida! Senna vive! Senna lives! 🇧🇷

[@Name_42]

Hey Jake, a suggestion I have for you/the comment section: Lotus 25 - Lydden Hill GP - PCars2 I know, this game is not everyone's cup of tea, but I had a blast with this combination. The track is mostly known for its rallycross track, but the GP-layout is really great. Probatly most players don't even know that this layout is in the game. The extremly bumpy track with quite hard corners (one even with a jump mid corner) and the slippery Lotus. A perfect match IMO. Suggestions: I tried to limit my horsepower, so I shifted at 8k (instead 10,4k) and closed the cooling vents for the engine. That way the opponets could pass me on the short straight while I could fight with them (and my car) in the corners.

[@Lansolot]

Really surprised you don't try AMS2 in VR, it's amazing in a way that you cannot describe in words. Maybe not the best for making videos though, would be a bit jerky. Even with a simple Quest2 it's amazing.

[@DugTheDog]

The story here is DeCesaris in the Rial in 3rd! whoa!

[@sergei4912]

Nice race 🚀

[@de-fault_de-fault]

In this scenario, Prost still finishes the season with more total points than Senna (111 to 103 instead of the actual 105 to 94) but the drop score system (only each driver's 11 best races counted) just takes those 6 extra points away from Prost immediately anyway, and now instead of losing 2 DNFs and three 2nd's for a painful total of 18 points, Prost loses one DNF and four 2nds for an absurd loss of 24 points, landing right back on his real-life official score of 87. Instead of dropping a 10th, two DNFs, a 6th and a 4th, Senna now drops two DNFs, a 6th, a 4th, and a 2nd, so even though he gained 9 points with this win, he only nets a 3-point gain in the final standings, landing on 93 instead of 90. So you've completed McLaren's perfect season without upsetting the Senna fans, as Senna pulls it out by a final score of 93-87. Good job.

[@carlosfandango2419]

Maybe it's the vocals or the history but I would watch you drive a flat iron around an old denim shirt!!

[@GrandPrixYannick]

I find it hard to comprehend how Senna got away scot-free while you spun into the gravel trap. Must have gotten lucky it was only a side-pod contact for him.

[@coldvoid]

Best track layout.

[@truantray]

Back when they used high curbs to enforce track limits. Not paint.

[@F1stuff972]

Repent and believe in the gospel

[@carlosdemelo9855]

Sweet video :D

[@DVAFP]

i might buy automobilista 2 just because of this video. can i do a full 1988 season?

[@barracadoseuze4213]

Almost, there is a few tracks missing in the catalog to get the full experience, but you can easily replace one of the tracks avaliable in the game ( there is alot ), also good part of the tracks comes with a historical version ( like Spa, Nurbs, Estoril - “Cascais in game”, silverstone and more… )

[@Rmagid]

No mexico city, paul ricard, detroit, or hungaroring in ams2

[@detonator2112]

I have this same mod installed. When I drive with TC0 there doesn't seem to be much traction at all. With TC1 it's just too easy. I prefer the AC F1 even with its flaws. Maybe I just suck on AMS2 lol. But amazing mods, either way.

[@danesorensen1775]

"Prost was a McLaren driver with a Honda engine; Senna was a Honda driver with a McLaren chassis."

[@ghostdog688]

Obligatory “If gap, car” comment at 12:37 :)

[@grasshoper4904]

Senna vs prost=verstappen vs hamilton

[@Paplock]

Will we see any videos on your channel when GTR Revival comes out?

[@64ElMariachi]

ooh, Senna outbroke you. I wonder if you GPLaps had breaked later, Senna would have backed off - kinda makes sense why he dove towards the apex there. Senna AI still gave some amount of space, just note nough. The AI is usually really aware and good, I've found. Very realistic collission. Lewis vs Max at Silverstone comes to mind.

[@Stripper-Magician]

nice

[@benjiesau1497]

You mentioned H pattern a few times, but there is background audio sounding suspiciously like the click of a shifter paddle. 🕵‍♂

[@GPLaps]

its the clicking of my TH8A

[@benjiesau1497]

I didn't realize those had a click@@GPLaps my bad! Full exoneration from my hasty accusations.

[@Panzer_Runner]

Interesteing whether the 2023 Red Bull gonna beat the winrate of the MP4/4

[@AlguienMas]

Day 2 of asking GPLaps to do a video about F1 Challenge VB

[@DVAFP]

best race lap in 1988 was 1:29.070. automobilista 2's cars are too grippy and you can brake very late. I've never played automobilista 2 though, just what it seems from the video. Classic Senna there at the end.

[@markcampbell2364]

Like number 574 buddy 😁 👍

[@danielkiss7003]

Is it me or in sims they still can't get collisions right? Senna should have spun in this situation

[@mrbismarck]

McLaren failed to win every race in 1988 because Nigel Mansell got chickenpox. (Schlesser was standing in for Nigel while he recovered)

[@markjones5163]

Ah, typical Senna. Great race anyway.

[@AdamEHuss]

Too much saturation

[@johncitizen306]

What happened to the 1966 season? It's been months

[@mrbismarck]

"I don't know if that was my fault or not." We asked Ayrton and he said yes, it was definitely your fault.

[@henkhenksen]

That's exactly the story of Prost and Senna. Love that. Thank you GP Laps.

[@mikea3273]

Damn that was intense, and ended up being super realistic for that rivalry too!

[@hansolo631]

Yea, that ending changed the video from great to amazing. Senna definitely hit him haha. The automobilista AI doesn't outright hit you, but they do not mind if they make contact with you, if that makes sense. Normally I'm annoyed when they forget to do normal human things like avoid contact at 200 mph, but in this situation it kind of worked perfectly

[@samacw]

Very realistic ending!

[@desmondtorres191]

You really realize how exposed they were when you notice how exposed the hands and the wheel are. And how the shoulders are pretty much out of the car 😂

[@mattmattmatt131313]

That is my favorite thing about 80s/90s F1 ... you can actually see the drivers fighting the car underneath them in the cockpits. You see them countersteer, you see them look over their shoulder to the opponent next to them(no HANS device),... it makes the whole experience more engaging to watch. You could also recognize the drivers very easily by their helmets alone.

[@edwardburek1717]

Senna doing his best Gandalf impersonation at the Parabolica there. Meanwhile, a young Michael Schumacher is taking notes...

[@1984pad1]

Classic Senna move

[@MikeVlcek]

😂

[@9phoenix191]

Suzuka 1989 not agree

[@diogoa.s.8337]

Schumacher in 1994 Adelaide Prost in 1989 Japan Classic senna move?

[@KA._.144]

@@diogoa.s.8337schumached wasnt just in 94. he should've been dsq'd just like he was in 97

[@lewisbloom]

Wonderful video as ever Jake. At the end there you ask for stuff we would like to see and for me I really enjoyed your old endurance type race you did in AMS2 (Driving slow cars quickly - Enduro in Automobilista 2) with a bunch of old cars, night/day transition, pit stops all over the place, not knowing how the race was gonna turn out, traffic etc. Was super neat, would love to see more of that sorta thing.

[@benjiesau1497]

Its hard to find a combo where the AI lets you finish such a race haha.

[@lewisbloom]

@@benjiesau1497 not sure what you mean, my own findings is that most complaints about AI are being the human is sending it every corner and then blaming the computer AI instead of admitting there own mistakes. The kind of driving that would get you a less than 1.00 on iRacing lol.

[@odie7915]

I already thumbed this but wanted to comment that this is a great idea. The unknown is the best with maybe some rain thrown in. But I would make sure what ever car is picked that it has working wet tires or you will fall behind the AI. Can also test the wet racing line and see how it is.

[@leonardoholanda2250]

Ayrton Senna é Brasil! Esse carro é Lendário 👏🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@west-tekesportsracing4239]

Ended exactly as you would expect. Another iconic Senna/Prost moment

[@MrOpinionatedOne]

You went for the gap. Senna would be proud. Great video! Always love you series.

[@TekkenOnlineFights]

Senna was the best ever man a game with him to play is too nice. Is this available to drive a whole season from 88? The sound is nice too- 1200 of Horse power these were the days when F1 was intense. Are there difficulty options too?

[@KitKitChanIsaac]

The "perfect" season is going to be achieved by Red Bull this year, mark my words.

[@9phoenix191]

Verstappen Run alone in 22/23

[@PaperBanjo64]

Then they brought shit boxes to Singapore and Ferrari didn't fuck up strategy for once.

[@h_v_2835]

Appropriate given today is the 35th Anniversary of Enzo Ferrari’s death and this was The Scuderia’s first victory since his death

[@mattmattmatt131313]

Historic sims don't sell they say... Think of a sim going over the greatest seasons of late 80s early 90s F1, the game is simply called "Senna". From 1988 to 1994 all seasons, each race opens up with real life footage and description of the race. All complete with period correct TV graphics and AI generated Murray Walker voice commentating each race. All still recognizable to a modern racing fan, yet a completely unique experience (something we have been craving in the stale simracing genre for years now). The tracks are slightly different to their modern developments, the rules are slightly different (no pit speed limit for example), screaming NA V8s V10s V12s all battling on track together etc. etc. etc. If a game like THAT doesn't sell in our simracing community, honestly... we don't deserve nice things and we should just go back to annual Codemasters F1 releases!

[@PaperBanjo64]

Don't even need Murray AI Jimmy Broadbent would be the perfect narrator and sounds like Murray

[@mattmattmatt131313]

Or the absolute peak of Murray voice acting... the GamerMuscle Murray Walker voice ;)@@PaperBanjo64

[@nicklibby3784]

Well you are in LUCK! There is already an AI TV narrator/commentator mod that exists for AMS 2 & is still being developed!!! In fact, there is videos of it you can watch right now!!! We - just can't download it right now because it is being made for the new GTR Revival game coming out which uses the AMS 2 engine, so they decided to do a "proof of concept" and created: "Straight4 - AI Powered Race Commentary & Engineer Concept Demo" in AMS 2, since their game "GTR Revival" wasn't developed enough to test it yet, so they made it in AMS 2. Go watch the video of it AI TV commentary in AMS 2 it is AMAZING!! and I think will change gaming forever. (It also has AI race engineer). Also AMS 2 is one of the best sims for recreating 1988-1994 F1. Because it has: 4 different 1983 F1 cars (with McLaren MP4/1c) 3 different 1986 F1 cars (with Sennas Lotus 98T) 4 different 1988 F1 cars (with Sennas McLaren mp4/4) 5 different 1990 F1 cars (with Sennas McLaren mp4/5B) 4 different 1991 F1 cars (with Sennas McLaren mp4/6) 5 different 1992 F1 cars (with Sennas McLaren mp4/7) 4 different 1993 F1 cars (with Sennas McLaren mp4/8) 1 1995 F1 car 2 different 1996 F1 cars Also AMS 2 has the 70s, 80s, 90s & 00s layout versions of many tracks with the old advertising. AMS 2 also has the Williams F1 cars too just unbranded but the skin packs fix that. Also has the brabham f1 cars & others which I didn't specifically list too. Also 70s cars as well, 5 different 1975 cars, 4 different 1970 cars, 4 different 1979 cars. AMS 2 is the closest thing to your dream game. It has the 1980s-1993 F1 cars including all of Sennas cars except 84, 85, 87. And AMS 2 has a AI TV commentator mod being made + the historic tracks and skins and drivers.

[@mattmattmatt131313]

Thanks... I will definitely check that out.@@nicklibby3784

[@nurbracer4569]

@GPLaps: Would be cool to see a full length race

[@chaoscope]

One like for the "extra realism" near the end. 😉

[@rebelorangutan3636]

Senna revenge 😅

[@TheBigDawgSL]

Even in a sim Senna and Prost couldn't get along. And it wasn't your fault...you were at his sidepod....he turned down

[@GregzVR]

I love driving this car! There's a *1990* teams/drivers skin pack from Afry coming too! 😁

[@CaptainWelshie]

The story I heard from car designer Gordon Murray. McLaren worked very hard with Honda to sort out reliability issues with the turbo engine early on. But then they had another problem with the gearbox being too low but managed to store that out too.

[@truantray]

Gordon Murray did not design the Mp4/4. He fraudently claimed to, but the McLaren engineers at ths time got together to verify the designer was Steve Nichols. Murray was just an administrator. Murray also told a story to the press that he told Prost to tilt his head to get better air induction to the motor...but that car drew induction air from the side pods.

[@CaptainWelshie]

@@truantray Gordon Murray (Technical Director) Steve Nichols (Chief Designer, Lead Engineer) Bob Bell (Chief Aerodynamicist) Osamu Goto (Engine Technical Director (Honda)

[@aaachnoch]

Ultra realistic, this exactly what you had to expect from Senna... 😉

[@unfortunately_fortunate2000]

that was a very Senna move at the end there

[@DVAFP]

how about 1985 estoril, torrential rain, lotus. Can you lap everyone?

[@QOTSAPT]

So realistic!

[@FranciscoFJM]

At this rate, Redbull's 2023 season could be the perfect one, because not a single team is capable of racing against them right now

[@markc3456]

Would have been more realistic had you gone into a big rant about "Senna's" driving! 😀

[@tylerroberts1276]

Now I gotta see a 1988 Indy 500 mod, where you drive as Danny Sullivan at the 500, to see if you can give him that second win, might end with a (somewhat) similar result as this video did LOL

[@davidbarnes6410]

I loved this era of racing.

[@MarshalPalmer]

Can almost hear Murray Walker’s commentary …

[@truantray]

Unless Im very well mistaken....I am very well mistaken.

[@geoffmcwiggan2814]

You drove very well. Great footage. !

[@tfaltermeier]

AMS2 and AI in max agression. I can cleary recognize the suicidal fighting of the AI on max agression.

[@MistaDobalinaMistaBD]

If you no longer go for a gap... ;-)

[@drfoqui]

If you no longer go for a gap that doesn't exist, you are no longer a sim racing driver.

[@andreysab3432]

Seems like you can abuse the kerbs quite a bit more than in real life

[@Rmagid]

Theres no kerb strike damage to stop you

[@johnthering8099]

hey GPlaps,I hope you will consider this request. I'm attempting to play nr1999 game. I used your ICR2 video as example. I'm encountering a problem with loading. it's not loading at all. DOSBox- .Ece is in game folder. Its short cut works, Game folder is in g drive and game wont load. your help is needed. direction to helpful info, video's would also help... not Tek savvy at all. love your stuff.

[@allainangcao28]

A carbon copy of Suzuka 1990. Only this time Prost tried to Senna Senna. 😂

[@blackdogzz]

Great video! Could you please drive a FW11 at Kyalami? Keke Rosberg's style. Don't know if that's possible.

[@diogoa.s.8337]

Comparing the AI's move with Senna, even if any other AI "driver" would do the same, that makes perfect sense

[@HugoBonami]

Those hands are so enormous, it makes Assetto Corsa's driver look good xD

[@joribremer5260]

Can you recreate the 1992 Belgium GP with the Formula Hitech gen 1 ? (You in the Benetton ?

[@agentcooper4627]

Looks pretty close to the real race kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnm6ZaGLnbKGlac

[@martyndaly1539]

That was the most authentic incident. I thought you had the corner

[@raymorgan5806]

Great vid. Senna would have done exactly as the A1 did.

[@konradkidGP4]

Fix even 2002 and 2004 Ferrari's perfect seasons 😛

[@isolirionband7300]

Senna vs schumacher please!!

[@mostlymotiongraphics2134]

Something something as soon as you stop going for the gap..