Fixing The UFC Pound For Pound List

[@koumeluv3r]

jon shouldn’t even be on the list tbh

[@Chocolatesauce._]

Fr he’s literally only had 2 fights in 4 years and they were both layups so he shouldn’t even count as an active fighter let alone the “undisputed” HW champ

[@War-Horse-MMA]

@@koumeluv3r I still think he should be on the list but if I'm being real he isn't beating anyone in the top 15 P4P RIGHT NOW!

[@tonyp3282]

​@@Chocolatesauce._cope lil dude..

[@Chocolatesauce._]

@@tonyp3282 how is stating facts cope he’s literally had 2 fights in 4 years and before that lost to Reyes💀holy shit Jones fans are a different breed of delusional🤦🏾‍♂️

[@tonyp3282]

@@Chocolatesauce._ p4p best in the world, or p4p best in the last year? Calm down just because I disagree with you, no need to spaz

[@koumeluv3r]

tom should be higher today tbh

[@War-Horse-MMA]

@@koumeluv3r ya I probably should've put him above Merab and Belal...

[@ymkyourmoneyking8157]

Tom fought nobody

[@War-Horse-MMA]

@@ymkyourmoneyking8157 I guess Pavlovich, Blaydes, Volkov and Spivac are nobodies...

[@thebarkingbaby1881]

@@War-Horse-MMA I don't really understand your p4p rankings. Do you really think Jones would beat Aspinall right now? If so that makes sense that he's higher, but if you think Aspinall would beat Jones then by definition Aspinall should be ahead of him in p4p rankings. You can't be ahead of someone in p4p if they're in your same weight class and would beat you.

[@ivanov-q4w]

tom should be higher tbh nice video!

[@Zoro-dr2vn]

Why not add calmzat chillmaev?

[@Calamity8]

Closest list to perfect I have see.

[@PeterCzech-nm1fj]

Great video.

[@GrubKiller436]

Aljamain Sterling has not finished anybody since 2020 (besides one-armed Dillashaw). He got his belt by luck. And he won his title defenses but they were close decisions. Got knocked out by O'Malley. And he beat Calvin Kattar but didn't finish him.

[@War-Horse-MMA]

Finishes doesn't mean you're higher/lower in the P4P list...

[@nicolasvanstaden263]

Great list. People under rate dricus so much, hes beaten every style possible. Only one left is an elite wrestler, enter Kamzat

[@War-Horse-MMA]

As great as Khamzat is, I really hope Dricus can beat him!

[@Charlesbu17]

i think u put belal too low he is on a 11 fight win streak with wins over gilbert burns, sean brady, and obvisouly leon edwards who was pfp 5 so i think he deserves higher placement and more recognition

[@tpd2029]

Solid list man. I just cant seem to agree with Izzy being in the p4p list and alex also being that high up. I know they have amazing resumes and skill but I think recent form should also be taken into account and Alex got koed in his last two and izzys lost 3 in his last 4 and also been quite inactive.

[@War-Horse-MMA]

@@tpd2029 fair enough, I still think Izzy can go toe to toe with the best and beat most of them but I might be a little delusional

[@GrubKiller436]

Pereira is a top 10 GOAT.

[@gabrielresendiz2096]

My P4P 1. Islam 2. Alex 3. Ilia 4. JJ 5. DDP 6. Pantoja 7. Tom 8. Merab 9. Belal 10. O’Malley 11. Leon 12. Volk 13. Strickland 14. Charles 15. Max

[@santiagogarcilazo1431]

Alex is good but having 0 wrestling doesn't make him #1, if islam and pereira were the same weight islam would maul him in the ground, that's what "pound for pound" means

[@gabrielresendiz2096]

@ you’re actually right. Swap those 2 then. 👌🏽

[@SmoknStogez]

max holloway is not the best boxer. he has good boxing fundamentals pure mechanical aptitude for boxing belongs solely to ilia topuria. he could absolutely hold his own against many professional boxers whereas max would likely get pieced up he gets hit too much

[@ghil263]

No. Pound for pound is about how dominant a fighter is in their weight class, relative to how dominant other fighters are in their weight class. P4p is NOT explicitly about skillset. Lighter weight classes are usually more skillful because they're quicker on their feet. Also they require more skill to beat an opponent because can't usually rely on one punch KO power which is much more prevalent at higher weight classes. Of course skill plays a role in determining which fighter is dominant against their competition in their own weight class. But p4p skill comparisons across weight classes is erroneous. You cannot hypothetically "upsize" a fighter and say he's better p4p than a bigger guy, because if the lighter guy was bigger he couldn't possibly retain his skill and speed due to size/weight constraints. Everyone needs to stop regurgitating this faulty rationale

[@War-Horse-MMA]

Fair enough, that's pretty good reasoning and can't really disagree, that's just my list and not everyone has to agree with it :)

[@ghil263]

I like listening to your takes generally since recently coming across your channel - just had to clarify this p4p thing which basically nobody online seems to understand because of this incorrect regurgitated idea that you should hypothetically upsize fighters to do a p4p ranking. By dominance, aspinall and topuria are the top p4p fighters. They are well above everyone else. Topuria is finishing p4p greats and aspinall has extremely low average fight time and running through everyone extremely dominantly. When they both had time to prepare, Makhachev went 5 rounds with volk when makhachev wasn't able to rehydrate for his usual size advantage. He also went into 5th round with poirier

[@xertz2502]

@@ghil263 so you don't know if Alexander Pantoja would beat Anthony Smith in a p4p fight?

[@Calamity8]

I agree

[@whatupcuz3688]

hows adesanya above strickland pfp when he lost to him, and driscus who strickland arguably beat

[@cobefriend7797]

Hes not going purely off of record, he’s factoring in skill set as well. Pretty interesting for a p4p list, and not sure if I exactly agree with it, but it’s a cool list.

[@abdulrafiujatoi3308]

Am I the only one who is of the opinion that DJ in his prime was the best p4p of all time, I mean I believe if he was taller like around 5'9 or 5'10 nobody would have had a shot against him hell I think he might have even beat JJ in his prime if he was 5'10 or something

[@ghil263]

That's a r.t.r.d.d thing to say. If he was bigger, there's no way he would be as skillful and fast due to size/weight constraints. Hypothetically upsizing fighters for comparative purposes is m.0.r.0.n.1.c. P4p ranking is about comparing how dominant fighter is in his weight class relative to how dominant other fighters are in their own respective weight classes

[@abdulrafiujatoi3308]

@ghil263 yeah 👍 I get it but I was just trying to say how skillful DJ was and that his only drawback in an open fight like street fight would be his size, if he were bigger and assuming he would have his current skillset he would beat anybody in my opinion, I also get what you're trying to say which is also correct

[@War-Horse-MMA]

I think he's definitely top 3, I personally would have him second but he's definitely top 3!!!

[@elgreco998]

Height doesn’t really matter in MMA. If you’re referring to just pure size/weight, it’s hard to say that upsizing a fighter whose athleticism is built off of being small would be all that helpful

[@abdulrafiujatoi3308]

@@elgreco998 that's a good insight

[@tiag0u803]

Bro be careful with not mixing the p4p list and the goat list U talked about petr yan’s longevity but it doesn’t really matter in this list

[@ErosExMachina]

if islam beats arman, gets the 170 belt and defends it i might consider him the actual GOAT of the sport tbh

[@chaseGamez]

pereira has been taken down many times u read the stat wrong

[@zhizha2872]

Bro izzy controlled him on the ground 😂, blachowicz just laid on him and he couldn't do a shit. And even if you look on his training videos his jiu is whitey-white belt level

[@War-Horse-MMA]

@@chaseGamez MY BAD sorry 🤣

[@gabrielresendiz2096]

How do you even have Aljo in the top 15? 😂 and he just lost last weekend lol

[@prithviraj8115]

Where is strickland bro he beat ddp and adesanya . And adesanya is still in ur list make it make sense😮‍💨

[@nate_perry]

Gonna make a shout for Arman Tsarukyan 2 ranked lightweight if only it won’t for Islam p4p num 1 he would be champ I do think he deserves a place on the list he will probably lose the rematch but I think he is the best of the rest with Charles

[@vidicisthegoat5444]

lost to gamrot.

[@War-Horse-MMA]

@@nate_perry I can't put him ahead of Charles just because of the body of work Charles has and how well rounded he is while also finishing these guys as well... I like the Arman shout now, if he beats Islam he's definitely proved me wrong!

[@american1207]

Arman beat Charles. Tbh I dont think any HW or LHW with the exception of Jones should ever be on a p4p list. The skill gap between BW and HW is absolutely massive. It's a night and day difference. What has Aspinall even done to prove he's anwywhere near the likes of Yan and Topuria skill wise? Reign over a division filled with fat blobs? Periera has no grappling. How is he more skilled than Arman, Yan, Topuria, Sandhagen, Shavkat, Evloev, Holloway, Volk, Umar, Merab etc... P4p isn't an accomplishments ranking. It's a skill based 1

[@vidicisthegoat5444]

this isnt a most talented list.

[@american1207]

@vidicisthegoat5444 it's a skill based 1

[@vidicisthegoat5444]

@@american1207 wrong

[@american1207]

@@vidicisthegoat5444 you don't need to play dumb you can just Google it. You're just proving you don't even know what p4p means

[@american1207]

@@vidicisthegoat5444 you can just Google it bro no need to play dumb

[@britisher1958]

Charles Arman O'Malley Leon Strickland volk merab Holloway Belal aspinall DDP pantoja Pereira ilia islam

[@xertz2502]

alex pereire wont even be the favorite to beat his next opponent, so why is he number 2 in your pound for pound list? You know Alex wouldn't beat anyone in the top 10 p4p, they would all take him down and sub him.

[@RNSC14]

Cry harder lil bro😂

[@icyhot8873]

Islam is overrated he beat 2 times a 35yo FW one time he almost lost and the other time was on 5 days notice where Volk was drinking beer and eating steaks with no training, then the only LW contender he beat was 35yo ranked 4# DP on retirement who just got flatlined by Justin who got schooled by another FW and Islam got even beat up bad in that fight bleeding hard 🤷‍♂

[@jonathanschindler7735]

Some insane Mma math my guy

[@davidamk9851]

Its absolutely Crazy how the Former P4P King Volk is now only a ,,washed“ FW. Even saw guys saying Volk was washed before the first fight against Islam 😂😂

[@m3rl707]

Jon jones is the pound for pound greatest fighter ever

[@War-Horse-MMA]

@@m3rl707 but what about right now? The P4P list isn't about how great you were 5+ years ago, it's RIGHT NOW

[@hanz__a3141]

Objectively speaking Mighty Mouse would beat Jon jones if you’re talking about genuine pound for pound, weight classes ignored