Fizban's Treasury of Dragons: Feats for D&D 5e

[@ASUbuckaroo15]

These could be cool boons granted as rewards for helping a dragon. Not over the top in terms of power but neat super powers.

[@TreantmonksTemple]

For sure.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Honestly, many feats I feel work best as quest rewards and the like anyways. Doing enough situps until you're Feytouched and can teleport seems odd to me. But then there ARE ones that very much seem doable by means of hard work and practice. Polearm Master, for example.

[@esbeng.s.a9761]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Fey touch might be as it say, you have help a fey who pays you by teaching you how to teleport and one more spell

[@ASUbuckaroo15]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 I get most of my feats through a daily rigorous workout consisting of 100 pushups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and a 10k. haha I definitely appreciate it when players can explain why they have the featrs they have through backstory or in game events.

[@skullkrusher-dx4kg]

I feel like there should be more ways to get feats in the first place lol.

[@mikebieser4175]

I think Gift of the Metallic Dragon has potential for monoclass warlocks. Adding Cure Wounds to your spell list is quite good paired with Gift of the Ever Living Ones invocation, letting you maximize your self-healing from Cure Wounds. Plus, a free casting of any spell is nice for the warlock. Plus, the warlock really doesn’t want to spend spell slots on Shield, and can’t always get it on their spell list. The defensive features will be very nice for a warlock too.

[@evantomlinson3761]

I like Gift of the Chromatic Dragon for the Zealot barb to give them some additional resistances and damage that can be used while raging where spells cannot

[@AdamZollo]

It's a shame we can't put that bonus onto a Beast Barbarian's claws.

[@marcos2492]

Why not? Don't they count as a simple martial weapon?

[@amphoramorph2856]

same with moon druid - you have to hunt for magical abilities that don’t count as spells

[@mike1313]

I'm guessing these will be used more as dm rewards in campaigns dealing with dragons instead of actual chosen feats, when compared to some random magic item it may be better as it doesn't take attunement.

[@shawnpeterson2523]

That's a good idea.

[@nicka3697]

The draconic gifts section is designed for just such rewards. I'm not sure why these weren't included as draconic gifts. If the designers wanted to give players the control to take them as feats rather than leaving it to DM generosity they should have made them a little bit stronger so they were worth taking as feats. They don't feel evocative enough of dragons to me to fulfill their stated role of giving any player some draconic ancestry. There is nothing about telekinetic retribution that screams dragon and you could as easily flavour the Telekinesis feat as having a Gem dragon related origin. You could use magic adept to give yourself Thaumaturgy, Resistance and Command for example and flavour that as being due to draconic heritage and feel more draconic than you would with these feats.

[@damightystevo]

I'd put Gift of the Chromatic Dragons on a Paladin. Paladin's tend to be really bad at Dex saves, even with Aura of Protection, and the chromatic damage types often target dex saves. Giving the Paladin a way to get a bunch of castings of a damage reduction ability, PLUS just a flat d4 on damage (that CAN stack with Divine Favour because its not concentration) and you can have a paladin thats hard to put down from its most common weakness, dealing an extra 2d4 damage on attacks, with extra room for smites because you're not investing spell slots into Absorb Elements (assuming you dipped a level multiclass into a class that gets that spell). I'd put this feat on a sword and board paladin.

[@hopeforescape884]

If you are planing on multiclassing into sorcerer I would just take war caster so you can cast absorb elements with your hands full, You would also get shield spell and opportunity attack booming blade, and you protect your concentration, but thats just me I could maybe see myself taking this if the DM did not allow multiclassing.

[@JonathanMandrake]

Yes, but even then I'm not sure this is really worth taking. It's only really worth it as a gift for slaying a dragon or something like that

[@OldManMcLoyf]

Imagine being a strength paladin

[@hopeforescape884]

@@OldManMcLoyf ??? you need a 13 str and 13 cha to multiclass, multiclassing is one of the strongest things a paladin can do, if you build for Dex you won't be able to meet the multiclassing requierments.

[@jeffdybdal656]

@@hopeforescape884 I don’t think booming blade qualifies for an opportunity attack w. War Caster anymore. It’s range self in Tasha’s.

[@Mando0Melkor]

I really think the chromatic dragon feat is underrated on martial classes, fighter can benefit a lot from this one. The damage stacks with other sorces such as the aforementioned divine favor, and a adaptable resistance is a lot better than it seems at the first glance. It is a more practical feat, easy to use, stacks with other similar effects and the resistence is good.

[@ExeErdna]

If you're not taking slasher, crusher, pircerer or tough this is one of better fighter feats for sure. Yet the problem is these feats kinda lean on fighter to where they don't work unless they're DM given feats.

[@samkonopczynski7444]

The build that combos with the Gift of the Chromatic Dragon is the Tempest Domain Cleric. As your 8th level feat alongside polearm master or booming blade strategies. For example, using high elf to get boomimg blade alongside glaive proficiency using Tasha's racial adjustments. The class doesn't get absorb elements, and adding lightning to your weapon damage allows you to trigger the 6th level Thundrous Strike push ability while also getting some benefit out of divine strike.

[@jonathanvanoostveen5309]

The problem is that this only becomes really useful with 5 levels of fighter for action surge and extra attack. Which then becomes an 11 level build. Might as well get the crusher feat and go straight fighter. Or combine both but that has to be a high level campaign to be worth it.

[@Coid]

Tempest Clerics already get Martial Weapon proficiency, so why would you need to use High Elf to get it?

[@Kestral287]

While Gift of the Gem Dragons' damage doesn't scale, it is useful to note that the push gets more valuable at higher levels as more enemies can multiattack; with decent positioning that makes enemies use their movement to get to you, it can mean you take one attack instead of two or three. I could see taking the feat in particular on Hexblade builds; they like the +1 Cha of course, and unlike most casters they don't really have a good defensive reaction since Shield is eating up a precious resource. It's still a somewhat niche feat, but I do think it serves a pretty different role from Telekinetic; I want to use Gem Dragon when I need to deter melee attackers and actually care about damage numbers, while I want to use Telekinetic on a character that really wants to influence positioning to utilize something like Spike Growth.

[@sixpack4blue]

Yep. My first thought when seeing this was "stack this with Armor of Agathys *and* Shadow of Moil on a Hexblade and let the fun begin" ;-)

[@MegaZed]

Chromatic Feels like an option that you might give a caster that wants to have an extra non-concentration support option (bard, maybe?). They can touch an ally's weapon (bonus if it's the Crossbow Expert) to give it a boost (and unlike Elemental Weapon, it can be magical), and get partial compensation by getting a weaker Absorb Elements (which a bard doesn't get unless they multi or use a Magical Secrets selection, which might not work out depending on the build youé going for). That doesn't change the fact that it's just "okay", but there are definitely scenarios where a supportive character might take it and it would be worth the trouble.

[@jasonr.6123]

It's not a great feat but Gift of the Chromatic Dragon might get some good use from a Tempest cleric's Thunderbolt Strike feature.

[@jasonetheridge2762]

That had me most excited until I realized you could only use the 1d4 elemental damage option 1/long rest. If I had been able to use either ability a total of proficiency/long rest I would immediately build the Tempest cleric lightning movement build without Blood Hunter. As is, ugh. Missed opportunity.

[@marcos2492]

I don't get what so good about thunderbolt strike, it's only crusher +5 feet

[@MagicScientist]

I'm considering gift of the metallic dragon for my Eldritch knight/war wizard playing through Rise of Tiamat. The thing to remember about shield and absorb elements is that they are awesome spells, but after you cast them 4 times total, they become second level spells, then third, etc. If I can get away with arcane deflection or gotmd early in the adventuring day and save a spell slot, that's potentially a lot of damage prevented when I have to use shield or absorb elements vs a dragon later on. The fact that I also get cure wounds for some emergency healing is just a nice bonus.

[@AuxCasts]

I think something to be mentioned for the Chromatic Feat is it's not using your concentration while Divine Favour or Elemental Weapon, definitely doesn't suddenly make it broken but the fact you could stack it with Divine Favour gives it a lot more value. On top of that I think for a lot of martials you can usually avoid B/P/S damage with high AC but it's going to hurt when hit with elemental spells or abilities and you don't usually have Absorb Elements to negate this. I think the feat functions well to make up for that gap, I don't completely disagree with your assessment though but I could see it being good on a fighter who gets a lot of attacks and extra ASI's to allow for the luxury of a feat like this. I think of the 3 this is the only feat I would really see myself taking, would definitely find value in a campaign with a bunch of casters or dragons where you can get good value from reducing say a few Fireballs or Breath attacks a day.

[@GroovyLemming]

I'm debating taking Gift of the Chromatic Dragon on my Ancestral Guardian Barbarian, in part because the abilities it grants are *not* spells so you can use them while Raging.

[@the1niddo]

PSI Warrior with Telekinetic and Gift of the Gem Dragon is fantastic flavour, reasonable additions to a PSI Warrior in general, and as a Fighter they have the slots to grab both. Use the two half feats to bump up INT a tad as you go. Would like Gift of the Gem Dragon on a Fathomless Warlock more than I would like Telekinetic if only because Fathomless Warlock's BA is already spoken for and having more pushing/pulling options fits well with Fathomless's leaning towards battlefield control.

[@Booklat1]

very solid examples tbh

[@slimee8841]

Gift of the Chromatic Dragon can be good on a Barbarian, since the weapon thing is not a spell. Sure its only once per long rest but it can help against a big battle and does add the elemental damage resistances for non-totem Barbs, which again can be used while raging since they are not spells

[@Booklat1]

Probably good on a zealot barb. They already have higher damage output than most barbs but start feeling a bit flat after a few lvls. Extra resistances and even more damage is something you could want. Hard to fit it early in a build though.

[@glukolover]

The value of Gift of the Metallic Dragon I think is giving a class that doesn't have access to cure woulds, like a sorcerer or wizard, access to a bit of healing. As a defensive option it's not bad, not great, but at least it doesn't cost any additional resources. It's ok but not phenomenal.

[@shawnpeterson2523]

On the one hand, I guess they missed the boat with these feats. Had they made them more like fey touched, then they would be really nice. But, on the other hand, it is now at a point where if I make a magic user and DON"T take fey touched (or at least it's ugly cousin shadow touched), then I feel like I am doing it wrong. I mean, everyone wants misty step, and it doesn't even matter if you could have already had misty step anyway because it still frees up a spell slot. So, yeah, these feats probably need more, but fey touched probably needs less. IDK, maybe the meh shadow touched is the sweet spot? I did use the metallic dragon one on a celestial warlock that I was trying to build as a support, rather than the standard damage dealer warlock. I think it works, but it's a fairly niche use case.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I think Feytouched's problem is that it's a half-feat, yet is comparable to a full feat for most purposes. So, if you made a character with a 17 or 15 in the appropriate stat, it's essentially getting BOTH the feat and the ASI. Like, it's a good enough feat that Fighters may seriously be looking at it as their bonus feats pile uo, with maybe a +1 to perception on the side. I think the problem really is Feytouched being overtuned as far as feats go. It'd be like if Polearm Master also gave your choice of +1 Str, Con, or Dex, but was totally balanced because Polearms are just a handful of weapons, nevermind that they're great weapons.

[@ArcticFire128]

Gift of the metallic dragon seems pretty decent on wizards, getting cure wounds and possibly saving on shield spell slots, the issue is that wizard already has feats that are much better/necessary

[@michaelswift9209]

Metallic dragon gas some cool applications for wizard. If you are able to add cure wounds to a wizard spell list you now have an awesome new use for your contingency - a fifth level cure wounds when knocked unconscious. Essentially a ten day death ward - only downside is you will lose concentration if you are currently using it and be prone next round... Though you could slightly modify the trigger to avoid this in sure.

[@michaelswift9209]

Also the casting of cure wounds doesn't specify that the free casting must be at its lowest level..

[@maybevoldemort8995]

I think the one thing that is missed is the campaign that a character is in. In certain campaigns you may well be taking a range of elemental damage and certain characters (particularly fighters who get more ASIs and don’t have access to spells) may find a lot of use of the reaction based resistance. Still don’t think it is great, but I could see situations where it becomes a lot better

[@jodylester9118]

Chromatic Infusion bumps up a bit with Tempest Clerics, imo. Obviously this dips down a bit if you have multiple combats a day, but most of the groups I play in don't. Still definitely agree it should be a half-feat

[@alfonsovallejo2665]

1d4 is really nice at lower lvs, but at higher levels the dmg increase is so small that you'd better use anything else than using that ability (even if you are a full fighter with 4 attacks per action)

[@eshansingh1]

If you have only one combat per day then you don't need to spend a feat to get a much more powerful weapon boosting effect

[@jodylester9118]

@@alfonsovallejo2665 For sure, my main reason for using this feat is Tempest Cleric's level 6 ability, but to the same point there are now so many ways to get forced movement at this point.

[@jodylester9118]

@@eshansingh1 Very fair, I guess my only reason for this with Tempest Cleric is the forced movement, but that's so easy to get otherwise.

[@voicetest6019]

Even if you do have multiple fights a day, its nice to have that "Bring Me Thanos" moment?

[@WolfHreda]

Nothing like some Monday morning D&D videos.

[@shawnpeterson2523]

I mean, there's always Friday!

[@mattgopack7395]

For Gift of the Chromatic dragon, I'm not sure if I'd call the 1st benefit a 2nd level spell - I'd probably place it between 2nd and 3rd level - taking a concentration spell and making it non-concentration adds ~2 levels imo (eg, wall of force -> forcecage). However, that doesn't really change the ranking - being usable 1/day is rough, even if it is a powerful effect in a lot of situations imo. Also, the Reactive Resistance is notably worse than Absorb Elements in one way - it only applies to that one instance, while Absorb Elements lasts until the start of your turn. How much that impacts things heavily depends on the fight, but I think it's worth pointing out. On the whole, it feels like a pretty decent feat - but not one that's worth picking up early, since it's not build defining. For gift of the metallic dragon, one noteworthy thing on the first part is that it's a way to get a healing spell in classes that don't usually get them - which can be valuable if you're with a DM that doesn't allow multiclassing. I do agree that as a feat it's not very useful on the whole, but I could see a situation where it pops up. Something like a hexblade could be an example, where you're going to be in melee (and don't have low level slots for shield/absorb elements, so the dragon wings might get some use), might be next to another frontliner (to save them from time to time) and having a healing spell could be nice. But that's very marginal, and in most cases I'd still rather dip for one level to get features like that rather than spend an entire feat on it.

[@lolzinator44]

why not just pick Magic Initiate: Cleric if you want a healing spell and also pick up the best spell in the game, Guidance, at the same time?

[@mattgopack7395]

@@lolzinator44 It's certainly an option - however, magic initiate only lets you cast the spell 1/day. This new one lets you cast it once per day, and *also* using your spell slots.

[@Michael-ls9eu]

I feel like if you need just one healing source for an action there are better options. The healer feat gives 1d6+4 per creature per short/long rest and essentially unlimited revives to 1 hp as long as you can find healers kits (5 gp/10 uses). You also could just buy healing potions in a lot of campaigns and use the feat for something else.

[@prestonluhman8168]

Gift of the Gem Dragon can potentially interrupt multiattack depending on how much movement the creature has remaining.

[@MrGuyCali]

Metallic dragon is definitely the best of them. Probably best on people wearing light/medium armor like rogues/dex rangers. Still not amazing. Getting cure wounds, and 2-4 uses of minor shield spells for yourself is VERY comparable to the the "magic initiate" feat. Shield is probably one of the best spells in the game, and for one feat you basically get a free dip into a half caster class in terms of the "spell slots" you get. Having that clutch healing spell on a pure martial class in your back pocket can be huge, and the wings aren't even bad! I'd give it at least a C in terms of feats. If the range on the wings was say, 10-15 ft, it'd actually pretty great. Maybe a rogue who's trying to get sneak attack anyway so is near allies. Then the occasional time you get hit you have the chance of adding that 2-4 AC.

[@aesheronanglvd3th309]

More like the Artifer Adept feat, Magic Initiate doesn't let you spend your spells slots to use it more, unless it's already a spell in your class's spell list. This let's a Wizard cast Cure Wounds with their Wizard Spell Slots.

[@nowfocus577]

Metallic Dragon is looks solid on a Peace Cleric. Protective Bond will tend to bunch people up, so the defensive aspect is more likely to trigger, and they don't have access to shield to protect themselves.

[@willykevinsuarezphellan3925]

The more flavor the feat has, the less it works for competitive levels. It's so much easy to create an interesting backstory for your character. I think a paladin with the gift of metallic dragon would look very cool, specially if its lord is Bahamut. Can say the feat is a special gift from Bahamut and it's a familiar trait as the lineage of a hero, or something like that.

[@30vamshi]

Gift of gem dragon can work well with booming blade users. Attack someone with booming blade, they attack you and get pushed back, they either move in and take damage, or they sit still and waste the rest of their turn. Not exactly super strong, but it sounds certainly fun. The remaining two feats are certainly fun on martials too. A non battlemaster getting absorb elements without multiclassing is certainly fun. A non wizard/sorcerer getting a gimped version of shield spell is pretty good too. Nothing OP but they are fun.

[@SomeDigitalGhost]

The gift of the Gem Dragon, as you posit, is how I use Telekinetic on my Armorer Artificer. Booming Blade on the biggest threat, BA shove away from me, and if it survives and decides to try against someone else, it's disadvantaged because the taunt mechanic from the gauntlets still triggers per RAW. If I need something really dead, then I pop my Eldritch Claw Tattoo as well, extending my reach to 15ft away. I'm thinking Sentinel to round it out. We rolled for stats, and I rolled well, so my abilities should hold until those last two ASIs to round things out.

[@30vamshi]

@@SomeDigitalGhost Yeah telekinetic works with that strategy too. And so does Tempest cleric's wrath of the storm (dex save instead of strength save). It is really cool to see different classes approach this strategy in several ways.

[@coldfusion230]

Consider the following, if you're a 20th level fighter so you have plenty of ASI's to pick up feats. Gift of the Chromatic Dragon lets you choose cold damage, action surge, and almost one shot the first layer of a prismatic wall (if you're lucky), which is not bad if you have no other way through it. Given that first layer is the hardest to get through it does have a very niche use.

[@aqueousconch1103]

Gift of the Gem Dragon could be decent on a cleric with Spirit Guardians casted. Pushes them back 10 feet which is still inside the spell's range, and the area is basically difficult terrain.

[@jean-baptisteblanchet9856]

There's a possible build with the first feat involving the Tempest Cleric Thunderous Strikes. Adding lightning damage repels the enemy by 10 yards. If you can add booming blade (which REALLY should be a Tempest Cleric spell) via another feat or multiclassing, then you can use your booming blade to repel the enemy, forcing him to move on its turn to get back in melee range. I think the once per day limitation makes it hard to build around that, but for that one combat it's pretty awesome.

[@micahsanders1121]

Watching this in the office! Better than coffee

[@TreantmonksTemple]

Why not both?

[@micahsanders1121]

@@TreantmonksTemple Right you are, my good sir.

[@Booklat1]

Gift of the metallic dragon is ok for a sorcerer, I think. I can see divine soul and draconic taking the feat, even clockwork. Sorcerers love to get extra spells and cure wounds is ok. Honestly it just depends on what role you want to fill in your party, the feat in itself is indeed nothing special

[@TCovenantUnbeliever]

Telekinetic reprisal scales in enemy threat level because a melee attacker with multi-attack can be pushed away, potentially preventing further hits, and the 10ft distance is enough that you can shove away things like polearm attackers.

[@JChe-ft4zc]

I think the Gift of the Metallic Dragon (wings) are broken when paired with a tank with a soft taunt (disadvantage when attacking someone else). It would provide the tank a reaction to beef up a low AC by up to 5, if a disadvantaged attack were to land on a squishy. In other words, it would really shine when the tank is having a hard time repositioning in the middle of a fight and the squishy can't afford to take damage (maybe because it's a Paladin's strike, which might have a divine smite behind it). I think the heal is also amazing from this perspective, as it would allow you to make the hard choice of letting a squishy die, and roll some saves, significantly easier for a couple rounds of breathing room.

[@MetaKaios]

3:35 There's another one, too. Absorb Elements lasts until the start of your next turn instead of for a single instance of damage.

[@ShadowGeek12]

The madlads straight up powecrept defensive duelist, couse gift of the metalic dragon just gives more, and lets you do more with the same feature

[@cmwinchell]

The Gift of the Metallic Dragon's Draconic Healing is useful/viable if you are playing a Caster that doesn't have Cure Wounds already since you can use other spell slots and it is technically always prepared. That's pretty much the best feature of the three feats in Fizban's in my opinion; but only if you are playing a Caster. I should say Full Caster. A Half or Quarter Caster won't have as many spell slots to sneak this into if they don't already have Cure Wounds.

[@Ahglock]

I'll say for Gift of the gen dragon if you are playing something that already has a lot of ways to use a bonus action but not many reactions telekinetic may seem less valuable than this. I've played a lot of classes where I almost never have an opportunity to use my reaction, but I am taking damage from close enemies semi frequently. A pure warlock for example, I usually don't have shield or other reaction defense and I'm likely using my bonus action a lot anyways. I'm rarely using my reaction as a front line cleric, but I'm using my bonus action a lot.

[@BR4IN1N4J4R]

I like Gem Personally, piggybacking for a minute, as a "keep away" tool. You're really taking it for the +1, but if your caster gets hit, the option to make your hasty retreat easier is a solid tool to have available especially because especially there's no size limiter. You could theoretically Fus Roh Dah the Tarrasque away from you in melee as a reaction. And reactions are sometimes something you may not be using. It's a situational tool, not something you're intending to use every combat

[@JoaoVictor-ic3ht]

Gift of the metallic dragon is great for a Wizard or Sorcerer since you're behind enemies trying not to take hits and don't have access to healing spells

[@Psychoveliatonet]

One comment on Chromatic: While those are 1st/2nd-level spell equivalents, neither effect uses an action. I don't think the feat will ever be build-defining, but as a DM gift it could be helpful to certain martials with otherwise poor action economy.

[@spacewolf1090]

I think that the Gift of the Chromatic Dragon would be neat on a melee Tempest Cleric, so they'll be able to make use for once of their 6th lvl feature. Also, the second part is good, taking into account the D8 hit die. I wish there was an official blade cantrip that dealt lightning damage, but I can only hope they'll print one.

[@SomeDigitalGhost]

If you don't play AL, you could always talk to your DM about just rebrewing booming blade, but since it'd be power-gamey, you might have to justify it to him.

[@secretlyditto7716]

I personally like running games with free feats allowed to my players, and encourage them to take the niche or silly feats. Keen mind, observant, defensive duelist, or actor. They aren’t super powerful feats but I love them~

[@EmanueleCappello]

Wouldn't gift of the metallic dragon turn up particularly useful for a melee hexblade? A mid/high cure wounds before a short rest for free, paired with the AC bonus wouldn't do too bad

[@Clanjade22]

I think them gem has some very good defense possibly, if they use there move to get to you, then push, they can’t multi-attack. The reaction “adds” some action economy for classes with out reactions, features( say cleric). Could work well in a warlock build too that pushes and slows. I hate taking damage, but preventing multi-attack is great. Also chromatic, much worse then absorb, as it’s that instance, so doesn’t work against double fireball where absorb does. Great vids enjoy them all

[@SpiderWaffle]

Gift of the Chromatic Dragons on Tempest (or Zheal) cleric, full plate, low dex, help your dex saves and get 10ft push on attacks at L6, no extra classes needed. Can you use ranged weapons, wreck everything with your ally's spike growth (or your own), push everything into the battle field control effects, could multiclass into fighter/gloomstalker/echo knight or quicken green-flame blade/booming blade or Crossbow expert for more attacks.

[@Starcoffin]

I like the metalic feat for a barbarian. Gives them a few shield spells while raging.

[@HORRIOR1]

I would use Chromatic Gift on a fighter. Fighters rarely get many resistances, so the ability to just half damage on some pretty common elements is a good way to make you a bit tankier. In addition, the 1d4 extra damage becomes a lot more frightening when comboed with action surge. Metallic Gift can also be good on fighters, who usually don't have spell casting access to friendly healing or Shield spell. Overall, I would say that instead of these being feats to pick up during level up, these are "gifts" that the players can earn while on an adventure. Stuff for the DM to reward the players with.

[@keeganmbg6999]

Tbh I think that these feats are best on Barbarians, non-concentration options, extra damage resistance options/defensive options, and even extra BA options all seem good depending on the kind of Barbarian build you are going for. Outside of that, most of these feel hard to place well in general outside of healing being put on non-healing classes.

[@shane9287]

I don't like that they went the route of "you touch a weapon" for gift of the chromatic dragon. This excludes unarmed strikes and two-weapon fighting for no reason. Maybe some people really just think flurry of blows is OP

[@VioletMoonfox]

I actually like them. Not for specific builds, but thematically they are fun.

[@rickfairfax9631]

I think that last feat might be worth considering for a warlock, who doesn’t normally have access to the Cure Wounds or Shield spells, and wouldn’t want to waste a max-level slot on Shield even if he did have access to it. Spending a max level slot on Cure Wounds, on the other hand, might well be worth it especially since the warlock will recover it on a short rest.

[@simongc97]

Gift of the Gem Dragon seems good for characters that aren’t otherwise using their reactions for anything. An extra 2d8 damage three or four times a day seems pretty good when it’s not competing with shield or counterspell for your reactions.

[@jeffdybdal656]

Here’s a rework to go from meh to must have: Gift of the Chromatic Dragon: The power of a chromatic dragon has manifested inside you, giving you the following powers. Chromatic Infusion: As a bonus action, you can infuse a simple or martial weapon by touching it. When you do so, said weapon deals an additional 1d4 damage on a hit for the next minute. This damage increases to 2d4 at 5th Level, 3d4 at 11th level and 4d4 at 16th level. You choose the type of damage this ability does when you infuse the weapon, choosing from: acid, cold, fire, lightning, or poison. You can only use this ability once per long rest. Reactive Resistance: When you take damage of a type from the following-acid, cold, fire, lightning, or poison-you can use your reaction to give yourself resistance to that triggering damage type until the start of your next turn. This resistance applies to the damage which triggered the reaction and any subsequent damage of the same type until this ability ends. Alternatively you may use this ability to use your reaction when you are required to make a saving throw that will result in taking damage from any of the listed types, you can add 1d4 to the saving throw and take 1/2 damage if you fail and no damage if you succeed. This ability can be used a number of times equal to your proficiency bonus per long rest. Gift of the Metallic Dragon The power of a metallic dragon has manifested within you, giving you the following benefits: Draconic Healing: You learn the Healing Word spell and can cast it for free as a level 1 spell once per long rest, you can cast it additional times by using spell slots if you have any. The spellcasting ability for this spell is Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma, you choose when you gain this feat. Protective Wings: When you or another creature you can see within 5 feet is hit by an attack or forced to make a saving throw, you can use your reaction to shield the affected creature with spectral wings. The creature gains a bonus to their AC or Saving Throw equal to your proficiency bonus, potentially making the attack miss or giving a success on a save. The creature also gains resistance to damage dealt by the attack or source of the saving throw. You can use this ability before or after the d20 is rolled, but you must decide before the DM says whether the roll succeeds or fails. You can use this ability a number of times equal to your proficiency bonus per long rest. Gift of the Gem Dragon: The power of a gem dragon has manifested within you, giving you the following benefits: Ability Score Increase: Increase your choice of Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma by 1, to a maximum of 20. Telekinetic Shield: When you take damage from a creature within 10 feet, you can use your reaction to gain resistance to the damage and force that creature to make a Strength saving throw. The DC equals 8+ your proficiency bonus + the Ability score you increased with this feat; on a failed save the creature takes 2d8 force damage and is pushed up to 10 feet away from you, and on a success, the creature isn’t pushed and only takes half of the damage. You can use this ability a number of times equal to your proficiency bonus per long rest.

[@Melorific]

I think what is overlooked here for metallic and chromatic is that these are great options for non-Spellcasters who don't have the spell slots to recast a 1st level spell of fey touched or Shadow touched. A caster is definitely better off with shield or absorb elements. But especially a barbarian can appreciate 2-6 discount shield/absorb elements every day. Any non-third caster fighter or rogue would as well. I'm not sure if they are good enough. They're definitely not premier. But I can definitely see them as like a decent option for a 3rd or 4th ASI. And I think that's a healthy power level for a feat.

[@elizabethviolet8448]

There are some campaigns where Gift of the Chromatic dragon is pretty useful: if you're fighting evil elemental wizards and evil dragons in every single session multiple times per day you'll get a lot of use out of that bootleg absorb elements; even if you already had absorb elements, this is more uses of it in a campaign where you'll need to use it a lot. And the bootleg elemental weapon is a little useful too, i guess. But honestly, can we expect dragons and wizards to make up most of your encounters even in campaigns with a higher than average number of them? However, I can't think of campaigns where the other two feats would be useful, other than maybe "level 1 one-shot" for the Gift of the Gem dragon since that 2d8 damage might instantly explode a goblin who hits you or something. But who plays level 1 one shots? When I hear the words "one-shot" i think "oooh! levels 5-20". I really want to like these feats but HNNGGGGGG other things are so much better

[@brettmajeske3525]

If the damage scaled, say 1d8 per prof bonus, then it would be a good feat.

[@luciajulio]

I think the gift of cromatic dragon feat is great for a Vhuman or Custom Lineage Barbarian. While just one per assault, you can have the durability of a bear totem barbarian when it matters but with another subclass, i can think of Beast Barbarian from the top of my head, so you can also make the best use for the d4 damage boost with your triple claw attack at level 5.

[@lastar7824]

I like protective wings, I know it’s not a full round like shield but I’ve used it at higher levels and it’s like 6 extra mini shields to protect my sorcerers silvery barbs slots.

[@kappascrolls6495]

Congrats on that amazing end card animation! Personally im looking forward to the new kobold race that hopefully still sees the light of day next year to combine with the drakewarden ranger. I had one question, are you going to take the new survey of wotc abt play activity and make a video about it? Always love learning and getting your insight is always helpful to put things in perspective as I myself have only started playing d&d this year.

[@sohkaswifteagle2604]

The HUGE advantage of gift of the chromatic dragon is the absence of the concentration requirement. SO you can take fey touched with hunter mark or bless AND add gift of the chormatic dragon on top, while if you took divine favor you cannot also cast bless So imagine a build where you specialize in having a huge amoutn of attack, and that you can in a realiable way have at 1 one fight per day where you can set up before the fight (let's imagine a rogue 1, gloom stalker ranger3 with 5 level of fighter battle master (we are not playing in Matt Mercer games, so no Echo knight for us), The would allow that character to have a pretty good stealth check (ranger cast pass wthout trace, plus rogue expertise in stealth etc... giving him HUGE bonus in stealth scouting ahead and seeing a group of ennemy. Send a warning using telepathy (any good party should have a solid telepathy option) to the party to join him in 6 seconds (1 rounds) then cast cast bless, apply gift of the dragon on his weapon on the first round, the ennemy still didn't detect him so still no initiative, second round Run toward the first target (initiave start 1st round of combat) action for 2 attacks, gloom stalker ambush add 1 more attack in the mix, action surge for an other action giving 2 more attack plus a 6th attack with the gloom stalker ambush, then free interaction wo switch your weapon in the ther hand and bonus action for an off hand attack. That is 7 weapon damage (and I mean if the invisible sorcerer want to tag along he could cast haste and give me an 8th attack) and I'm sure if we theocraft a bit we can find additonal way to gain more attacks; all dealing an extra 1d4 (so 7d4 extra damage, that is 17.5 additional damage without concentration and without requiring a -5 on my attack roll and without requiring a special weapon type (and not all feat can be as strong as great weapon fighting as you said in your feat survey video) and it will keep going for the entire fight (very rare are teh fight lasting more then 9 rounds) it cannot be dispalled (it's not a spell) I mean sure, divine favor offer a similar boost, but you need to choose between divine favor or bless or hunter mark. Who will take divine favor adding 1d4 when for the same spell slot and same concentration you could get hunter mark dealing 1d6 and lasting 1 hour (sure costing 1 bonus action when switching target) Then let's imagine you are a tempest cleric, here an eay way to get lighting infuse weapon to benefit from that free push when dealing lightning damage. Fighting a troll or a flesh Golem, no problem here a free fire weapon. Could it be better? sure, make the duration 1 hours or make it recharge on a short rest or maybe put it inthe same poll as teh defensive reaction and you can use either a umber of time per day equal to your profiency would be interesting Would I take it on every build? no it's not crossbow expert, sharp shooter, lucky or great weapon master, it' snot a feat taxe, but I will certainly take it on build having multiple attacks or being able to benefit from the damage type. and yes it require a bonus action to set up, but I'm sure you can prepare before a fight at least once per day. Approcahing a door hearing the ennemy behind it and getting ready before oppening, or stealthig around getting ready to ambush or during a conversation that is deterioting fast etc... just need it to happen once a day to make full use of it, or if you know the fight will last a few rounds (facing the BBEG and his leutenant) or if you are not in position to be able to use your other bonus action (stuck at range, unable to do a off hand attack, you shoot with your shortbow, and put gift of chromatic dragon on your shortsword gettign it ready for the next round.

[@amphoramorph2856]

Wouldn’t gift of the chromatic dragon be very good for the moon druid? Because whilst in wildshape you can’t cast spells

[@Booklat1]

I wouldn't say it's very good but it's definitely sinergetic. Warding off damage is probably the best part of it though damage isn't bad either

[@dexionsgamingcorner310]

I could see taking the Gem Dragon feat as a Human Eldritch Knight at level 1. Your getting another Feat at 4th and 6th, and the 2d8 Reaction and STR save are going to be rather effective in Tier 1.

[@Grizz5858]

It's very anecdotal, but I think the metalic one would be perfect for my high level PC. I'm a bladesinger with robes of the archimage so my AC is stupid high (20 Dex & Int) so the bosses just stop trying to hit me and just hit the pally. It would be nice to shield him and the cure wounds spell could help us out somehow

[@texmame]

Variant Human Wizard. Take Gift of Metallic Dragon. Now you have a wizard with cure wounds (and a familiar). Do I read it right that they can cast Cure Wounds with their regular spell slots, using intelligence? That is really powerful, right?

[@bigdream_dreambig]

As for "when you might take it," I'm considering adding Gift of the Gem Dragon to a Psi Warrior Fighter. The Psi Warrior gets Telekinetic Movement at Level 3, which makes the Telekinetic feat's invisible Mage Hand mostly irrelevant. Also, they have many uses for bonus actions, but (aside from opportunity attacks) only one for a reaction: Protective Field. And its adds versatility to be able to choose to push-and-damage on a reaction versus shielding. Also, the flavor of Gift of the Gem Dragon seems a better match to the "rough and ready" feel of the Psi Warrior. Your thoughts?

[@Malisteen]

I was hoping for a revised version of the Dragon Fear feat to account for the changes to the breath weapon it replaces. Sadly no such luck.

[@Booklat1]

but as written it should work with the new breath. I thought it took an entire action but it doesn't

[@Malisteen]

@@Booklat1 huh, i thought it specified an action use as well, but you're right. Ok, fair enough then.

[@KingWhoShallReturn]

I think Gift of the Chromatic Dragon could be useful for Tempest Clerics as a way to reliably have lightning damage on their normal attacks, allowing them to push enemies around with Thunderbolt Strike without having to give up their concentration. Granted, there are a lot more ways to push enemies around nowadays compared to how it used to be, but if a player was trying to get the most out of that aspect of the Tempest Cleric, I'd give it a soft recommendation.

[@bigklu4756]

Drakewarden? When do we get the Scribes Wizard build? Been waiting almost a year.

[@RonquixoteDIII]

So gem dragon is basically thunder wave at first level as a reaction PB/Long Rest plus an +1 to any mental stat

[@tuvasaldert4069]

Hey! I was wondering what your thoughts are about the feat telekinetic? For wizards more specifically

[@parkerbrown4104]

For gift of the metallic, you would be shocked how often people flock you when your playing somthing like a supportive paladin, my auras plus this and my lay on hands has lead to my party acting like seagulls around a tourist with a loaf of bread lol

[@Serbinderbintine]

Thanks for covering Treantmonk. Though I am disappointed in these feats.

[@markuslang6215]

Chromatic dragon gift is nice, if u want to proc elemental bane in your fighters turn too.

[@RIVERSRPGChannel]

Interesting Thanks for sharing

[@sufficientlyadvancedplagiarism]

Metallic feels like it might be a good fit for my Warlock. While an ASI is always useful for something, her Charisma's already 20. Cure Wounds would be a nice addition to her spell list since it would get cast at 5th level if she uses a slot and while she does know Shield, she'd rather not use a slot for it. Comparing it to Defensive Duelist, you do at least lose the finesse weapon requirement, you're able to use it on ranged attacks, and you can use it to shelter others. On my lock, she'd mainly be using it to protect herself, but she *might* be hanging out next to the cleric and want to use it to protect her as well. I'm likelier to just do Eldritch Adept and pick up another Invocation, but I'm at least going to consider Gift of the Metallic Dragon next time I get a feat.

[@SpiderWaffle]

Gift of the Gem is good for the damage at low levels, but rapidly gets worse. Maybe if you're a hexblade, monk, rogue, or war cleric (or Zheal cleric) that has their bonus action tied up and you take this at L1. It should do a number of D8s equal to your proficiency bonus or something.

[@robertlynch1834]

@treantmonk I've noticed in the other feats that grant spells that they specify that you learn the level 1 spell X and can cast it once for free. However this feat for metallic dragon says you learn the spell cure wounds and can cast it once per long rest without a spell slot. It doesn't specify it is learned as a level one spell.. I wonder does that mean you can cast it at any level you can cast at. If you are level 3 you can cast it as a level 2 spell as opposed a first level for free? Why not say you learn the first level cure wounds spell if they weren't letting you cast at a higher level for the free casting. What do you think? Is my argument weak?

[@runeserpent1449]

contemplating taking gift of the metallic dragon for my drakewarden, but taking the feat to get any fighting style and pickup interceptor seems better

[@matthewnewman3724]

The Gift of the Gem Dragons feat is better than telekinetic for bonus action heavy, brawlers. Like a melee cleric where reaction is so much cheaper than a bonus action.

[@red_acoya6900]

Please do a Drakewarden build, I'd love to see what you come up with

[@chopcooey]

the long rest is a bummer, but chromatic gift is a nice match for tempest cleric

[@mr.histor1996]

I don't think the Gift of the Chromatic Dragon reaction comparables well to Absorb Elements. It only provides resistance to a single instance of damage, whereas Absorb Elements provide resistance until your next turn.

[@LurchLand]

The metallic dragon gift might be decent on a warlock that doesn't want to spend a 5th level pact slot on Shield.

[@TheClericCorner]

I wish the chromatic dragon feat leveled up in strength. With only a D4, it quickly becomes irrelevant

[@LeonJagerWulf]

Would you rather have the 1d4 damage for 1 minute/LR or only deal the damage PROF times/SR/LR?

[@curtisbrown547]

Gift of the metallic dragons is the standout imo. Great for a sorcerer or wizard. Grants access to a healing spell, an essentially extra casts of shield which scale with level an can be cast on a Ally which is pretty great. Could be decent on a var human sorcerer who wants to twin spell cure wounds without being divine soul. The real issue is that allot of classes don't get enough ascii's to justify this. Once again I feel locked out here unless I'm playing a fighter. Maybe they'd be good on eldritch knight? Chromatic infusion seems standout for them here

[@Gingerbreadley]

Idk about these feats it feels like something might be there but they are mostly just not inspiring. Speaking of not inspiring I’m trying to build a monkless monk. Basically I want to build a high mobility skirmisher. Maybe run around and hit people with booming blade and such. Any suggestions?

[@TreantmonksTemple]

Bladesinger is the obvious choice I think.

[@shawnpeterson2523]

Wait, so don't take the monk class? Is that what you mean? Like be a sorcerer or something? I gotta think about that one.

[@Gingerbreadley]

@@shawnpeterson2523 yeah like I feel like you can do a monk better without even picking monk

[@Gingerbreadley]

@@TreantmonksTemple that makes sense the wizards low hp doesn’t really matter if you are highly mobile and blade singing. Plus the movement buff should help.

[@mikebieser4175]

There are lots of threads on various Internet forums on how to do that exact thing - make a monk-like build without taking mini levels. That being said, I’ve never seen one that actually outperforms a base monk, which is a pretty low bar. If you want a high-mobility skirmisher, just buying a horse, grabbing Mounted Combatant, and doing an otherwise normal build will probably outperform most pseudomonks. The bladesinging idea isn’t bad, but you’ll be a primary spell caster first and foremost. If your wizard, even a Bladesinger, insists on running directly into battle, they will not last particularly long.

[@Acatia2]

I'm curious how often DMs tend to award those weaker feats to players, heck even just on the racial kind (outside of Elves and Halflings). Obviously it would be a hard sell to just ask for Mobile or Sentinel "for free", but Gift of the Chromatic Dragon, Poisoner or even some weaker half feats like Chef and Keen Mind feel like I would never actively spend the limited ressource for... which is a shame cuz there are mini features that look occasionally neat... just in very minimal ways.

[@nicka3697]

Is there any synergy with these feats and the equivalent dragonborn races? It is sometimes nice to take a racial feat that enhances your choice of race and while these are not limited to a specific race I wonder if there is some roleplay synergy here at least.

[@certifiedfunnyguy]

I feel that mettalic is pretty good in all honesty the healing helps a fair amount if otherwise you only have one other person with healing. Of course it would be hard to use it in an optimized build but I could see a fighter get some use from it.

[@studynot757]

Chromatic would be good on a non-Tasha sorcerer to free up a spell known from absorb. I think more importantly… it preserves spell slots. I expect to see these in a burst after release but then falling off quickly after.

[@DarrylCross]

I think the Metallic Dragon feat wouldn't be a terrible option on a wizard I'm playing right now. The party's only healer right now is the paladin, who also doubles as one of the front line fighters/tanks and so it could be handy to have that option to get them back in the fight quickly in the event the only real healer gets taken out. Though if I wanted to go that route, I could also instead go with Magic Initiate and choose Bard or Cleric and also gain a couple cantrips out of it. I could even swap Cure Wounds for Healing Word which would allow me to still cast a cantrip as an action. The only benefit I would get from the Metallic Dragon feat in that regard is that I could use my best ability (Int) for the healing instead of my weaker Wis/Cha. So even then, it is kind of a toss up, and I think Magic Initiate would still have a sleight edge.

[@SamXala]

Remember that you can only use once per day any spell that you learn from Magic Initiate if it is from any other class, Gift of the Metallic Dragon gives you the chance to spend any spells slots for Cure Wounds if you need more uses. I think this feat is good for a wizard if you're with a small party and there's no healer at all

[@coryrothwell319]

I was given defensive duelist as a free feat on my monk, and it was actually quite useful. Still, I don't see much in the way of choosing the Metalic Gift option, sadly. Because I love Dragons and Dragon themed characters.

[@leodouskyron5671]

The fact is the design intent is not clear on the feats vs gifts of the dragon. And they seem gun shy on letting these feats be powerful as a result. The Chromatic gift is (like everything in the book) lesser and not too useful. And the bonus maybe helps a bit if you are a Drakewarden and using it on the Drake if you had to summon them but niche case. The gem is sorta cool as the damage is good at the lower levels and when the damage gets poor, the push keeps multi-attacks off you for the squishy people. The metallic (again) is the best because if you are a quarter ( arguably even half) caster then getting cute is positive and in the case of say a Eldritch Knight when you have good armor maybe saving that shield spell will be valuable (maybe).

[@NiteCoffee]

It doesn't take concentration and doesn't specify non-magical weapon. You can stack it with divine favor and/or elemental weapon... or Hunter's mark. If you have multiple attacks, It does a fair bit! Also, there's no counterspell to the feat.

[@UnkaJosh]

Like many features in Fizban's, the Chromatic Dragon feat seems like it would work much better if there were more monsters that were Vulnerable or otherwise hindered by specific elements. As it stands, though, being able to chose to inflict, say, Lightning damage on a foe just isn't that great.

[@TreantmonksTemple]

Having so few creatures with damage vulnerabilities was a missed opportunity to make the game more interesting IMO.

[@brettmajeske3525]

@@TreantmonksTemple My number one homebrew to monsters is adding vulnerabilities. It does mix things up.

[@zeedar412]

Gift of the chromatic dragons makes your tempest cleric/bloodhunter build possible without the bloodhunter.

[@secretlyditto7716]

I would take these on dragonborn lol i love themes

[@skullkrusher-dx4kg]

I started to think about it a bit but the extra d4 really shouls just be permanant. 2.5 extra damage on average is basically the same as taking the dueling fighting style and its signifigantly less damage than gwm.

[@brettmajeske3525]

Frankly I do not understand why metallic and chromatic gifts are not half feats as well. Gem should have unlimited uses.