Flak (1944)

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Timeless classic about anti-aircraft flak. This film provides an in-depth look at the weapons and methods of German and Japanese anti-aircraft warfare, and highlight the evasive actions utilized by U.S. bomber crews.
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[@airboyd]

A little anti-aviation today... 🤔

[@wudi911]

Chee I though Covid was enough, now this? lol

[@bobbybooshay8641]

That's racist!

[@MrBen527]

@@bobbybooshay8641 lol

[@LoveStoryMew]

I really like in the series of games "Men of War" to destroy the tanks of the Americans and the British with flak 88 guns

[@bobbybooshay8641]

@@LoveStoryMew ----Of course you do champ. It's the only time any of you 3rd world mongrels get to try it though.

[@MrRedeyedJedi]

I never realised how advanced their anti air systems actually were for the time, with that crude processing unit relaying predictive coordinates to gun positions... Cool.

[@CommonApathy]

There're surprisingly simple algorithms to fit trajectories and such, and making something purpose built to do that, and nothing else, is hard but not as hard as you'd think.

[@bocahdongo7769]

As long as you know what the range (by using optical rangefinder) and angular speed are (by using pointer attached to tachometer) you can predict where it should land even with paper and pen. Heck, even US had developed sensor-based AA fuze at same era. All you need to do was just point where it should land and sensor inside will automaticaly detected where the plane was around the shell and exploded when sensor detected the plane was pretty near without any pre-setting or miscalculated like time fuze

[@slendok4960]

I thought they used tracers or something like that

[@steveman1982]

@Joe There's videos on youtube about mechanical computers. Really interesting stuff. Also used on battelships to direct their main cannons for off shore bombardments.

[@javiergilvidal1558]

@Joe You think the world started when you were born, don´t you Joe?

[@Mubishi2015]

I learnt how to avoid flak. Now I need a target and a bomber. Wonderful.

[@nicku1]

I personally need a horse, a kingdom and the subjects. Further details I will provide later.

[@SOS-ds8gq]

Great, they use missiles now.

[@I_am_not_a_dog]

nicku1 Pffft. Amateur. You need a kingdom? If I *had* a kingdom, I’d trade it for a mount. My hypothetical kingdom for a horse!

[@nicku1]

@@I_am_not_a_dog Richard, Rickie the Third? Is that you?!

[@alexk2418]

@@SOS-ds8gq . Awesome point! 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂👏

[@dmac2899]

The fact that a lot of us watched a 17 minute educational video that hasn't been relevant in decades shows just how effective an entertaining educational video is.

[@ferrisbueller9991]

If every teacher could educate entertainingly kids wouldn't hate school. I enjoy documentaries now on the same subjects that where painful to sit through, imagine the same goes for everyone else.

[@rembramlastname3631]

@@ferrisbueller9991 Schools today train you up just to the point of not being stupid enough to not being able to operate a machine. Worthless waste of time. And money if you end up in a pile of debt chained on you for the rest of your life. - That counts for every sector by the way.

[@paulazemeckis7835]

Not sure about entertaining given that many lives were lost due to fleck but certainly educational.

[@chrisperrien7055]

Ballistic missle detection and defence is founded upon such history. As are other modern AD systems

[@bradnone6187]

It's pretty cool to be able to be a fly on the wall in terms of getting to see what they sat through, right before being thrown in the fire. They did a good job with it. The video plays off of a mans natural swagger and confidence, which was a huge part of flying during this era, or really at any point.

[@NoQuestions4sked]

why am i getting recommended this 76 years after its upload?

[@NGGYU]

69th like... NOICE👌

[@nevadaxelizabeth]

so you can feel educated.

[@gregor-samsa]

because there are White Supremecy guys, was Trump and in Germany there is AfD. So we are doomed to stand evil again;-)

[@gregor-samsa]

@Texas Rattlesnek today it is this... kzbin.info/www/bejne/npmwcqdpd9God7c

[@tezcatlipoca6336]

xd

[@flukislucas]

My Grandfather was the navigator-radioman on a B-17 during WW2 in the Pacific. Its crazy to think he probably watched this same film in the 40s on a projector in a smoke filled conference room on an airbase

[@jblvxk]

No he wasn’t.

[@jacob-cs5fx]

@@jblvxk You are a sad person who exists. Just off yourself!

[@jblvxk]

@Trust Me he’s lying idiot!

[@jblvxk]

@@jacob-cs5fx that doesn’t even make sense but ok simp

[@Coolpachito]

@Trust Me Ive never seen a trash yellow like that guy on here.

[@fazole]

This is back when Hollywood directors made training films. Now it's death by powerpoint!

[@hatman4818]

There's a reason for this. These films were expensive to make. The only reason they were made was because there was still a significant part of the US population that were at least partially illiterate, which meant written training couldn't always be relied upon. Training films meant EVERYBODY got the same level of training. It does suck that we've somehow gone BACKWARDS in education technology though. We should be moving on to video games and simulation now, instead students are still paying out the ass for rip off text books, and 150 person lectures to hear the same dude repeat the same information year after year, and rote memorize and regurgitate on tests year after year after year, even though cameras and audio technology have been around over a century, for god's sakes, record the guy once and be done with it. ... What a joke.

[@fazole]

@@hatman4818 In college, I actually had a class that consisted of watching the most boring teacher possible on video, then taking a test. I never saw him live! I used to use a little remote to ffwd his ramblings. Then, one year, I had him for an actual class and I kept trying to point at him and ffwd! 😁

[@keithadams812]

If you ever deployed recently you went through 12 and 15 hour powerpoint days for a week straight.... That was worse than physical exhaustion

[@martynspeck]

@@hatman4818 The real learning happens in the doing. Writing papers. Writing programs. Doing the research.

[@robot-he6nq]

Hat Man these videos are most likely for pilots. If these guys can make it through the academy, the rigors of pilot training and can fly bombers, I’m pretty sure they can at least read.

[@k9tirion927]

Im actually baffeld by how honest they are to the bomber crews with this film.

[@ZekeMM25]

You have to be. Cause if you're not, they'll tell you about it after the mission....if they make it back!

[@garymingy8671]

Yup , they gonna find out pretty quick either way , to waste time dodging near the target is counter intutive,,,seams safer to pour on the speed and maximize the surprise , hope to escape before they find you. Two miles to pop at 27000 feet , thats a long lead.

[@augustovasconcellos7173]

That's because bombers are a lot less expendable than infantrymen

[@JCU2803]

Just compare with the Training Film about german automatic infantry weapons e.g. the MG42

[@eNodeTG]

Imagine watching something like this in the 1940s knowing you will be deployed soon.. brave souls.

[@GurniHallek]

You will not remember 99% of what you've learned in school or uni a year after graduation, but the knowledge of the difference between the continuously pointed fire and predicted concentration will stay vivid and clear up until the moment of your passing. Such is the nature of random YT videos.

[@hay7501]

That’s because the schooling system is broken and leaves kids with zero interest or passion to learn

[@jonasderidder8707]

school should just be a list of youtube videos that we all have to see

[@italiangarbageposting]

It is the nature of interesting instructional videos

[@arawtgabi]

Every time there is a barrage, go through it as fast as possible.

[@petermower5708]

Are you... dead?

[@mariusweber4990]

This is actually fascinating, and surprisingly well made!

[@desertedgoatgaming]

These were all well made. Lots of them were made by Warner Bros and Disney.

[@strangemanmtd8350]

this looks flaked up. the enemy is basicly trying to flak you up.

[@every-istand-ophobe6320]

@@strangemanmtd8350 definitely flaked

[@thatguystheguy4291]

So flaked.

[@predragpavicevic216]

Fresh, young (RIP!) US meat cca 19 yrs. old, wouldn't had agreed that this makes any sense. Enormous number of planes and young man made it , not this military office rat's bullshit!

[@fontunetheteller410]

What really got was this... They start out telling you what your goal should be if you were the AA gunner. Then the rest of the situation is telling you how to avoid it. They train you in your enemy's perspective so you already know what needs to be avoided.

[@Xeonerable]

These old training videos have that vintage charm to them. Especially the cartoon duck-hunter part for the real-word analogy, it made them entertaining and informative.

[@LegendaryKazooMann1936]

And you have to love the mid-Atlantic accent!

[@TheRambutan2000]

Look up Tigerfibel and Pantherfibel, basically panzer manuals in cartoon form

[@MrSafer]

well the people they were training were kids most of the time

[@pepiangelov401]

Fallout series have the best vibe to it

[@meatmissile8229]

Have you seen the aerial gunner training video? It used a paperboy as a real-world analogy.

[@mbrenneman0411]

thats pretty crazy, i didnt realize flak guns back then had that kind of computational technology

[@maximsavage]

Well, they were mechanical calculators more than actual computers, but they did the job. If you'd like to see how complex of an equation you could make without digital tech, look up how the enigma machine worked, it's fascinating.

[@carsons5750]

Michael Brenneman wait until you find out about shipboard fire control calculators kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWLMXpekdq1sj5Y

[@alexanderherckenrath7099]

Sad to say, when it comes to killing one another, we can be quite resourceful.

[@baneblackguard584]

@@alexanderherckenrath7099 necessity is the mother of invention. well, it's actually the mother of utilization. the tech existed, war just put the money and effort into utilizing it.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

@@baneblackguard584 not really, mechanical and even later digital computers were invented for the purpose of war. They weren't in the civilian market but instead was a purposely designed machine for war. Neither were radar(which eventually led to the microwave oven) and neither were many innovation.

[@budspaulding7121]

My Dad was a 381st BG navigator during WW2. He told me you could see a reddish-pink explosion in the center of the black cloud of shrapnel coming at you when it went off. I have the chunk it it that came up through his plotting desk, on his second mission. It hit the ceiling of the plane and klanged down on the floor. Dad picked it up an stuffed it in his pocket, thinking "Oh boy, a souvenir!" Then he realized "They're shooting at us..."

[@ggaggagga4]

I think a lot of the guys sat on their helmets rather than wear them. The idea of having your uh...credentials... blown off from something underneath you must have been damned unnerving.

[@homefront3162]

COOL!

[@NapFloridian]

@@ggaggagga4 Those Germans knew how to make your bomb runs a hell on earth...

[@jonathanallard2128]

@@NapFloridian Because the Germans also knew that the bomb runs were hell on Earth for them as well. See the bombing of Dresden, feb 1945.

[@slipstream9368]

@@jonathanallard2128 Dresden was a war crime by our side.

[@larryblack2981]

Clear, direct, fairly easy to understand and not needlessly complicated or lengthy. That's what I like about these old training films.

[@7000fps]

When my brothers and I were very young we would hear from our dad "NOW I DONT WANT ANY FLAK FROM YOU KIDS! YOU HEAR ME. Now that I know what flak is, I had NO idea we were so tough on him. But after watching this film, I think he must have seen it too , cause he knew how to do pre-evasive maneuvers when encountering a battery of Jr. boys.

[@slewter9041]

Same..my father didn't want any flak from me..lol..guess I must a bombarded him with bullshit😊

[@flak6487]

He has

[@timealchemist7508]

The original source of “Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, B, A, Start.”

[@TheExplosiveGuy]

Lmao

[@whatfreedom7]

Good now the bombers have 100 lives. Maybe they can complete their mission.

[@tolga1cool]

My favorite always was: triangle, triangle, square, circle, X, L1, L1, down, up

[@yamahsghost]

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right then Square unlocks god mode. Trust me

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

B A B A up down B A left right B A start. 20 lives in TMNT 2 on NES. Made it once into the Technodrome without the code, then only used the code every time after. Oh the days, when games were actualy hard and tried to stop you...

[@noneofyourbusiness9505]

Imagine the poor cameraman when his producer told him they needed some footage of exploding FLAK grenades in the air and put him on a plane flying through the war zone.

[@VascoCC95]

That was made by the plane crew, not by civilians

[@osamabinladen824]

I would be scared to hell.

[@osamabinladen824]

@@VascoCC95 Still fucking scary.

[@ruckus8378]

Those scenes were most likely filmed with automatic cameras

[@leocurious9919]

The close-up was only using overlayed images of exploding shells. You can clearly see the difference of the real war footage and the "made up" compositie footage.

[@lorenzo6mm]

My Father flew a Martin B-26 Marauder over 150 times over Nazi Germany between May 1942 and May 1945. The Marauder was an incredibly tough, fast an deadly fighter/bomber. The first of its kind. He was a raid leader dozens of times with hundreds of planes behind him. They relied on his skills evading flak. Most of his missions we're well under 20,000 ft and lots of missions around 10,000 feet. German 88 Flak Batteries at this altitude we're incredibly dangerous and unforgiving as their velocity and power we're optimized at these altitudes. The Marauder had two Pratt and Whitney 2,800 HP and could fly very fast with even 2,000 pounds of bombs. It could fly even faster without bombs. It also had 12 -50 Caliber machine guns. It had the best records for bombing accuracy and flak and fighter defenses. German fighter pilots gave the Marauder crews total respect coming and going to their targets, they frequently only had a few chances at bringing them down due to the unloaded speed and and 12 -50's barking back at them in their well arranged cross fire sorties. It was not a strategic bomber, it was tactical medium altitude war bird that directly supported ground offenses and defenses especially railroad supply lines and enemy depots of ammunition, fuel and troop concentrations. Fathers skills evading flak we're of the highest skill and he described this to me exactly as this film does. He survived the war but said the last Mission over Nazi Germany was exactly the same a same as the first. Between the 88 flak batteries and Messerschmitts and Focke Wulfs and ME 262 jet fighters the German flak & fighters we're as good as could be deadly and unforgiving. After the war stationed in Europe he had a chance to talk to many German fighter and flak battery soldiers and pilots. They had a deep respect for each others skills and shared something in common namely many thousands of useless deaths of fine young men fighting for their Countries and families right or wrong without guile or prejudice but simply to survive the insanity of all out war. I always relate my Fathers WW2 experiences as best I can. And, relate them to the videos that share his experiences as I understand, to honor him and all the soldiers who died in WW2.

[@lorenzo6mm]

correction between "May 1943 and May 1945"

[@AmericasChoice]

@@lorenzo6mm The B-26 was a hot plane, but a medium altitude bomber. Which meant it was in the sweet spot of German AAA. Respect for your Dad.

[@mig7287]

Thank You for sharing with us.

[@iandawson7723]

Thanks for sharing your Dads history I found it touching and fascinating.

[@GrzegorzDurda]

did he bomb Dresden?

[@JohnDoe-bw3tz]

Since noone mentioned it... "Flak", German, short for "Flugabwehrkanone" = aircraft defence cannon

[@RobWhittlestone]

I was going to write that, until I saw your entry!

[@cameronbooker445]

Not entirely correct but glad you both can read a paragraph from wikipedia. Cheers.

[@JohnDoe-bw3tz]

@@cameronbooker445 Glad you had something enlightening to add here. I'm German by the way and happen to be a qualified flak operator at the Bundeswehr, former Heeresflugabwehrtruppe, now Luftwaffe. So feel free to educate me on my mistakes, always happy to learn something new. Cheers.

[@sweetyd]

@@cameronbooker445 Don't be so negative. You added nothing to this conversation.

[@warpatato]

@@cameronbooker445 Love people who takes time out of their day to sarcastically point out someone's "mistake" but doesn't take the extra minute to actually enlighten the crowd.

[@K877]

These animations are incredible for the time they were made.

[@BoleDaPole]

Wartime military budget baby 🤑🤑🤑

[@11kungfu11]

"This mechanical quiz kid"... This is what im calling computers from now. Edit: Some of you flogs are taking my comment way too seriously.

[@TheyCalledMeT]

if you still find a mechanical computer ;)

[@pierreo33]

@@TheyCalledMeT you mean every hard drive that isn't a SSD?

[@TheyCalledMeT]

@@pierreo33 if a HDD is a computer for u ^^ well .. 10 years ago i would be with you .. now i would say the majority runs on ssd's and in 10 years there will only be HDD for what today tape backuping is

[@SchoppeROFL]

@@TheyCalledMeT Not realy. HDD will never be used for long time archives. Because it is a mechanical device with a motor.

[@USMCArchAngel03]

Who cares if it's completely accurate? It was funny.

[@lotusdemon9293]

I have to go on a bombing run tomorrow against the germans, this video probably saved my life. God bless you kind sir.

[@cancerman3990]

Shit man did you make it or are you a pow now

[@cancerman3990]

@Deus Vult. naa shit I thought I could dodge a patriot missile by doing a slight turn every 30 seconds. Nvm the fact it can hit a target at over 30 miles

[@rjmax3311]

This isn't a joke, op is a time traveler.

[@ew7926]

Dont be to sure

[@fb6264]

didn‘t listen close enough, we got him

[@kakungulu]

It boggles my mind that this was produced when heavier-than-air aviation wasn't even 40 years old and twenty something years after that there was a man on the moon, all in a human lifetime.

[@bangscutter]

Warfare does tend to accelerate technological advancement.

[@andybaldman]

We'll take any wonderful advancement, and fuck it up with war.

[@rustaholic2546]

@@andybaldman true, but I don't believe planes would have advanced nearly as quickly without war.

[@andybaldman]

@@rustaholic2546 I'd be ok with that. We'd have gotten there eventually. Capitalism pushes development second hardest, after war. And with fewer dead bodies.

[@walterbrunswick]

@@andybaldman Hi, I got news for you: war IS capitalism!! Look up "War Is a Racket" by USMC Major General Smedley D. Butler Good luck in your journey for the truth

[@ikGREENY]

Imperial Japan evasive flight video: “fly directly towards where you’re being shot from, they’ll get scared and run”

[@jholotanbest2688]

Why wouldn't the imperial Japan worry about getting shot down before the target?

[@user-bo1ej5im9t]

@@jholotanbest2688 if japan attacker/bomber see something... its their target now

[@desertedgoatgaming]

@@jholotanbest2688 Because Banzai a.k.a. Japan's Allah Akbar.

[@desertedgoatgaming]

@@user-bo1ej5im9t How come they couldn't target the Enola or the A-bomb then?

[@jholotanbest2688]

@@desertedgoatgaming Your suicide attack will not do much if you get shot down before your target.

[@Ashley-1917]

These training videos are always really effective at explaining concepts.

[@ABC-dw7pe]

True but even following this … it’s hard not to think that it’s almost impossible to dodge flak . No wonder allied bombers paid such a heavy price during the war over Europe. Courageous as hell the lot of them.

[@hurricanemeridian8712]

This 20min video single handedly beat the current school system

[@pinhe1350]

Cringe

[@Mandorle21]

It obviously doesn't. And your comment is unoriginal.

[@lukassyrovy9081]

@@Mandorle21 itwasajokebutok

[@edible0pig]

I think that says more about your ability as a student, than whatever school system you're a part of. You goddamn melon.

[@xordus]

Im amazed at how thorough this was. They didn't just tell pilots what to do and to 'trust their commanding officer', they showed them exactly why they're doing it. I'm sure this gave the pilots a lot more confidence.

[@bryzeng]

I'd love to watch a documentary on how these beautiful, clear, smoothly animated training films were made almost 80 years ago.

[@fivemeomedia]

Dr.zeus got his start making these he made the bazooka training video you can probably find on KZbin

[@lapoissonnerie3891]

There's maybe a training film about making training films.

[@RemiStardust]

Some of them were made by Disney! They didn't pay well, but it kept the studio alive and were needed.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

@Fman1292 Yes a lot were but also many were made by the US army signal corp. In fact some of my favorite films were by the Signal corp, and not necessarily hollywood or disney, although the latter two made plenty of films too.

[@julianfreier2297]

@@lapoissonnerie3891 hopefully another training film

[@Bystroushaak]

Theese are some prety badass visualisations for its time.

[@roddydykes7053]

Good ol Disney

[@bobpourri9647]

"Somehow this doesn't make me feel better" says the ball turret gunner........

[@romeowhiskey2759]

hahaaaa

[@vast634]

The graphic visualizations are pretty well made, and high detail. They took their documentations serious back then.

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

The clearer version of this video is here, kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmndgYGDprucaKc

[@kelly0101]

I don't know why I clicked on this video. I don't know why I sat around watching it intensely for 17 minutes. I don't know when I might ever need this information. But dang it, it was so worth it.

[@thederogativeworld]

Made in 1944 and recommended in 2020? Man, youtube really needs to step up their game

[@paulluce2557]

Learnt more from this than the average bollox from Tik Tok..

[@warflowers5639]

"I'm not scared of little black clouds"

[@Mr-Ad-196]

Hrmmm.....

[@DespaceMan]

It's not the black clouds it's the bits you don't see that get you.

[@Mr-Ad-196]

@@DespaceMan those exploding black cloud send tiny bit of metal at high speed......don't wanna get hit by that.....

[@ditsokar4168]

@@Mr-Ad-196 r/whoooooooooosh

[@richmond3090]

@@ditsokar4168 thats not how r/whoosh works

[@felixcat9318]

One has to admire the mettle of Aviators whom flew regularly into enemy occupied territory in the full knowledge that fighters and flak batteries awaited them! To have seen that fellow crews hadn't returned after the mission and that they hadn't been reported to have landed at other airfields must have been hugely unsettling. Their stoic bravery is genuinely something to admire, that irrespective of any personal feelings, they continued to fly their missions. Thank you for posting this thought provoking film.

[@cypher9000]

Just imagine that it was real people going out in those planes, learning how not to get killed. It's unimaginable in these times. We should be grateful for the life we have nowadays.

[@Cypher791]

"3 quarters of our planes are being shot down.... maybe its time to make an educational cartoon >_>"

[@jamil3286]

@@charlesdarwin4146 helmets also caused a lot more head injuries

[@Phobos_Anomaly]

@@jamil3286 That is a common myth. The reason head injury numbers increased when soldiers wore helmets is because there were more head injuries to report. Previously, those men would simply be dead.

[@SimpleBanana]

@@Phobos_Anomaly Yep. That is indeed the joke.

[@MarkJacksonGaming]

-- Actually, it was closer to 1/3rd, but that's still plenty. 8th AAF went through hell particularly.

[@DanielMcInnis]

@@MarkJacksonGaming thank god my grandfather flew a b17 late war... 1944. You can see the inside of a b-17 in my profile pic

[@somewierdoonline2402]

These old training videos are so good, I retain the information well and the video is entertaining

[@ichabodon]

Always find these training films most enlightening. These films show the greatest generation. Bless them all.

[@ischase1958]

I hope getting recommended this wasn't Google trying to prepare me for next month

[@semi.g]

😆😆😆 Underrated comment !!!

[@rhabeldibabeldi6812]

Well son, I got good news and bad news for you. The good ones being you got a new job, the bad ones being your hopes not coming true

[@patrickr2601]

Thumbs up

[@eng3d]

Biden already started bombarding.

[@mr.mikeyg.5282]

My father, a B24 Tailgunner, was awarded a Purple Heart after being wounded by Flak!

[@nicku1]

And my father was wounded by a Flak on the ground! He was working as a Polish forced laborer in a German ammunition factory near Leipzig. Some day in the spring of 1945 he enjoyed the sight of American bombers (actually they were silvery dots high in the sky, leaving condensation trails) destroying nearby industrial installations. He stood there with his hand resting on a tree. Suddenly a splinter of a flak projectile embedded itself into the trunk of the tree right next to his hand and injured at the same time seriously his index finger. He had a slighly bent index finger with a sizable scar as a souvenir of this incident.

[@thepatriot8514]

Mr. Mikey G. G-D Bless the #GreatestGenerationEver. We can all learn from those guys & gals.

[@mr.mikeyg.5282]

My sisters and I took him back to Manduria Italy in 2005 where he was stationed with the 450th bomb group for the first time in 60 years. Needless to say it was pretty emotional. The people of Manduria are so ingratiating and hospitable.

[@Knebebelmeyer]

all of these mens are heros...no matter which side they fought! the people today are only victims of mcdonalds food and brainwashed media!

[@aalexjohna]

A dirty murdering piece of fucking SHIT!

[@frontlinegamesseries]

The art-style of this presentation is absolutely fantastic!

[@notthecia4486]

Thank you, now I can accurately train my pilots to avoid flak for all my future mass air raid endeavors

[@vladsnape6408]

1:15 "Nevertheless, we have got a higher percentage of our planes coming back now", he didn't mention what the typical percentage was. I guess he did not want to make the viewers get worried even more than they are already.

[@UCmDBecUtbSafffpMEN3iscA]

I thought the same thing when I heard that phrase

[@jellymop]

These old military tactics and mechanics videos are so fascinating and informative.

[@dragoneye0979]

Good to know that the actual recommendation for dealing with a flak barrage was to just keep flying straight

[@joostdriesens3984]

Getting the tactics right was a real challenge. In hindsight the flying straight sounds stupid, but it does mean less time over target, more accurate bombing and better formation which helps with defense agains enemy fighters. If flying straight and fast means you don't have to do it again over the same target next week, there is some advantage to it.

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

Its like being in an open field at night, with machineguns firing randomly. Alternating between head height, nut shots and ankle biters, you can zig-zag all you want to try and dodge the bullets, but get the hell out of dodge works best. Since the enemy can not see you, nor does he care about your moves, and since you can not predict where he is aiming for next, best is just to get out of the area ASAP!

[@baddiematty5289]

It's also important to note that if you've flown straight enough to be caught in a barage, you've already made a mistake. Best to push through and complete the mission. Just get it over with so you can focus of the return flight.

[@bobknechter2265]

@@baddiematty5289 barrage is used when they dont fly straight

[@sidhantjasrotia220]

@@baddiematty5289 barrage is last resort of enemy when they cannot predict you, so you did not make a mistake

[@MrTrees]

Why was this so entertaining? I feel like I need to take notes. I don't even know how to fly a plane

[@coloradostrong]

Neither did the "hijackers" that supposedly flew planes into buildings in New York. But don't let that stop you.

[@elongated_musket6353]

@@coloradostrong oh boy

[@Jester4460]

@@coloradostrong this joke hit harder than the towers

[@Chicken_Wing91]

@@coloradostrong i mean they got pilot’s license’s so... you kind of of don’t make sense

[@JayKayKay7]

@@coloradostrong They had Microsoft Flight Simulator.

[@flynnlivescmd]

Its wild how incredibly informative this is about the physics and purpose of flak, no matter the accomplishmemt you've think you've done with ww2

[@piecrust21]

I've watched this probably at least three times at this point, but I still rewatch it.

[@AceCmbatguy25]

As a motion designer this blew me away. Holy shit the motion graphics ! 1944 !! Respect to the creatives of those times and the arimen they sought to teach.

[@darkshadowsx5949]

alright the trainings over wheres my bomber? i'm hyped and ready.

[@alancrandall3863]

My father flew 29 combat missions as the lead pilot in B24s out of Seely Airfield in East Anglia with the 448th bomb group. He said the flak was worse than fighters. You could fight back against fighters but had to endure the flak. He said you could walk on the flak over Berlin.

[@tomlieser7865]

I found this film while reading John Steinbeck's "Once There Was a War," section on WW2 bomber crews stationed in England. This kind of brings it to life.

[@gabrielh7517]

I went to the ww2 museum in New Orleans last summer. There was a bomber pilot there talking to people and he had a picture of a bomber that had been hit by an 88 missing a wing and crashing and he had a picture after his last mission with a hole in his wing from an 88 shell that did not go off. He was a lucky man. It's crazy that the AA gunners where able to send a shell up 4 miles and actually hit something so small.

[@PatrickBaele]

My grandfather did during WW II on a constant basis transmit all flak locations along his strip of Belgian and French coast. There were gaps in the flak lines called ‘couloirs’ , the Germans constantly changed their positions, he transmitted those to England. At a certain moment they tried to liquidate him and made an attempt on his life because they had suspicions. He was neutralized for 3 months but continued. He was a civil engineer and due to that he was needed at the coast and had passes in all Sperr zones. After the war he got personal thanks from Montgomery.

[@mig7287]

👍👍👍

[@HedgehogZone]

Dirty traitor

[@PatrickBaele]

Hedgehog Zone idiot, Belgians were occupied by Germans. My grandfather was Belgian,not German. Keep your displaced insults for yourself.

[@PatrickBaele]

Hedgehog Zone . Idiot my grandfather was Belgian,not German. Belgium was occupied by Germans. Learn some history before debitating nonsense

[@Justin_Kipper]

I appreciate that you didn't put a time code in the middle of the screen to claim that you "own" it!

[@homefront3162]

Yeah like that "other" gay channel

[@Justin_Kipper]

@@homefront3162 You mean that channel that takes public-domain videos originally made and paid for by other people, and proclaims to be saving them for us while ruining them by inserting a pointless time-code across the screen?

[@homefront3162]

justin kipper 👍🏻😎👍🏻

[@ssorbob1364]

most people get this recommended but i'm so good at procrastinating i searched for this myself

[@Southern_Crusader]

Same.

[@breakmystupidniconicokneec3353]

same

[@Napoleon_Blownapart]

I always wondered how the gunners aimed with that much precision. I never tought that radar and electronic gun control were so advanced at that time.

[@szaki]

That's why bombers dropped aluminum foil strips to confuse the enemy radar!

[@umbrellashotgunman]

Wait till you hear about proximity fuses, which were AA shells developed by the Brits and Americans that used radar to determine when they were close enough to a plane to explode (previous heavy caliber shells had to be preset to explode at certain heights).

[@B20C0]

I'm actually super impressed by the quality of this training film. I mean, considering the time the animations are really good. Heck, they are even better than some modern stuff I've seen. But you see the difference between Army and Air Force. Army training film: "The MG42's bark is worse than its bite, just follow your Sergeant." Air Force training film: actual information based on newest intelligence and science, no downplaying of the dangers involved

[@Omni910]

During WW2 there was no separate Air Force branch, wasn’t founded until 1947. They were still under army jurisdiction, that’s why the video at the start says “Army Air Forces”.

[@B20C0]

@@Omni910 Oh is that so? Good to know. But still, the difference in training for pilots in comparison with the soldiers is significant.

[@umbrellashotgunman]

@@B20C0 Hell, you even see it in regards to how they treated experienced veterans; Allied ace pilots were generally taken off combat duty and sent to train the newbies, while veteran infantrymen were often left in the grinder until they died too.

[@CULatte]

Awesome video, just had the pleasure of seeing a full German AA setup at the American Heritage Museum in Massachusetts. It had an acoustic rangefinder, and massive spotlight, all synchronized, fascinating stuff

[@ftargr]

This is amazing. Even amateur historians need to see this level of detail to understand the conflict. Edit- The motivational wrap up at the end got me ready to man a ball turret (ok waist gun).

[@drwlpwasright5132]

Check out Historian MS (Mike) King, author of the 2015 banned book, "The Bad War" tomatobubble.com

[@reneharkamp4309]

FROM AMSTERDAM NOW 71 AND STILL VERY GREATFULL TO THOSE YOUNG MEN FOR MY FREEDOM

[@1220b]

Still find loads of flak just sitting on the ground. Southern England is covered in fragments...

[@BayLeafff]

You're kidding, really?

[@BayLeafff]

@G E T R E K T 905 That's amazing. Makes me wish I lived in the place with poignant reminders of history like that

[@Yawnpawn1]

@G E T R E K T 905 They can't be all defused. Every now and then there is major damage from American and British bombs, like this one in Munich that was found 2012 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIPGlIuneZp-qbs , but could not be defused. It's estimated that in Munich alone there are probably still 500 bombs of WW2 n the ground. Defusing them becomes harder every year because of corrosion. A little less than one bomb per year explodes while attempting to defuse them in Germany, very often killing those trying. Excavators hit bombs every now and then, too.

[@admiralcraddock464]

My old dad used to go out after a bombing raid on London's east end and collect pieces of shrapnel as a boy. We've still got them. He said you were at more danger of being killed by falling shrapnel if you were outside a shelter than by a bomb. There have been several cases of tree surgeon's chain saws being damaged when working on old trees in South England due to them being damaged buy bullets buried in them during dog fights in WW2

[@Zipbass]

@@admiralcraddock464 yes loads of shrapnel up in London plane trees , have found loads over my time when I did trees

[@charlescouch511]

No matter any negative comments we owe SOOOOO MUCH to the vets of WWII . Knowing this they still flew day after day night after night close to 44000 I believe never made it back MUCH RESPECT AND ADMIRATION!!!!!

[@choughed3072]

1:30. That's a bad day to be a nose Gunner.

[@KillaArmadilla]

From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State, And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze. Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life, I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters. When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose. POEM BY RANDALL JARRELL

[@satina1169]

@@KillaArmadilla gay

[@KillaArmadilla]

@@satina1169 bro...

[@TheGuyThatsNotFunny]

@@satina1169 bruh what are you on

[@satina1169]

@@TheGuyThatsNotFunny I unironically smoked some crack

[@cola98765]

9:03 suddenly I'm playing Bomber Crew.

[@TheGuyThatsNotFunny]

This tutorial is perfect for my badass Lancaster crew

[@dr.medieval1131]

Over a million and a half views of an old training film about flak? That kind of puts a smile on my face. People like to learn random stuff. Cool.

[@leftyfourguns]

Never underestimate human ingenuity and creativity when it comes to maiming each other in the most horrific ways possible

[@GunsNGames1]

Cool, I hated losing my B-17s to Flak all the time, thanks for this video.

[@josephl6896]

This is an amazingly good education film. Great animations, great reasoning, great explanations.

[@Smishh___]

I love how I watched the whole thing without skipping ahead or nothing. Amazing how skilled those pilots were

[@Fede_uyz]

Me: cant remember much from wyat i learned 6 years ago in high school chem. Also me, after finding this gem for a second time after many many years: Ah yes, i still remember: never hold your course for more than 10 seconds of every 10s of thousands of feet, course variations of at least 20degrees and 500 feet elevation for heavy flak. Fly straight through barrage, and for small flak inscrease the speed, get low to the ground and make as many changes as possible.

[@BusyBasaz]

It's Christmas Eve 2020. You never know what 2021 will bring so best brush up on my anti-aircraft knowledge.

[@cheydinal5401]

I didn't expect that duck to have a parachute, wtf lol

[@moos5221]

oh, that's actually the advanced duck model D-43.1, sadly the whole population froze to death the winter after they were developed.

[@hereLiesThisTroper]

I wonder if there are still some World War 2 veterans watching clips like this in KZbin.

[@MrRedeyedJedi]

I'd hazard a guess and say most of them don't want reminding too often about that time in their history, not to mention most are half blind/deaf and not exactly savvy with modern tech like KZbin. No disrespect to them intended of course, I think they were an incredible generation

[@kennylast2565]

@@MrRedeyedJedi I respect the German, Soviet and Japanese veterans the most cause they had it extremely hard and knowing it was battle to death cause their country depends on it.

[@Justinian506]

@@MrRedeyedJedi while many veterans suffer because of there time in the military many also enjoyed fighting weirdly enough it depends on the person

[@BobGnarley.]

this is so in-depth. now imagine being a bombardier - you have to setup your payload to account for things like heading/altitude/wind speed and direction at intervals of every 30 seconds as you are constantly changing course due to potential flak. no wonder they were so in-accurate

[@admiralcraddock464]

What he doesn't mention is the fact those explosions weren't mere puffs of smoke that were harmless unless they hit you but, in the case of larger calibre shells, were filled with dozens of steel balls which flew out hundreds of feet to damage engines and kill or injure the aircrew.

[@bobbybooshay8641]

AIRBOYD videos are so much better than the periscope filch guy. That rectangle with the counter is unbelievable. He claims he does it so nobody can copyright his videos. As far as I know, they're all publicly available since I've seen every one about a million times on other channels. Thank you AIRBOYD and I hope periscope filch guy isn't your dad.

[@definitelynotanimposter1670]

*YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING*

[@chuckaule6292]

lmao, I remember someone shouting that over and over again and my plane had no wings at all. i was like YEAH I GET IT IM SCREWED.

[@impostrous]

*oil leakage*

[@semi.g]

"B*tch I ain't got no left wing anymore !!!"

[@outtimegd5683]

Attack the D point!

[@definitelynotanimposter1670]

@@outtimegd5683 Gramercy!

[@swamihernandez5408]

Ok, now I need bomber formations, AA batteries, and tons of shells.

[@helmaksi]

Soon

[@jty9631]

My lego battles bout to get a whole lot more advanced.

[@AG-zv9jo]

Man haven’t watched this in almost a year but I stumbled upon this again so let’s rewatch because why not!

[@ImplodedAtom]

I have to admit I clicked on this thinking it would be a bit naff. Turns out it's clever, well informed, and delivered with perfect clarity.

[@thatguyinthecorner1533]

You didn't search for this. But you watched it all the way through.

[@mjelves]

Stay where you are

[@micronick304]

I used this in a war game and it worked.

[@donmoore7785]

I have seen this - it is excellent for those new to the subject.

[@ggaggagga4]

As much as I've read over the years about the bombing raids I never had a clue how relatively sophisticated their targeting systems were at that time. It must have been like slow walking through a field while mortars were landing all around you...

[@GooberGuhher]

This is such a great video. Even in the time of war and knowledge, they kept it so simple to the ones that will be at the sky. Meanwhile in school... LEARN EVERYTHING AROUND A YEAR FROM MULTIPLE CLASSES BEFORE TESTS!!!

[@heinrich6294]

I'm a German and love those American war education films

[@RemiStardust]

1:37 Just think how intense this must've been, watching these training films, knowing in a matter of weeks you'll but up there! Jimmy Stewart actually flew in WW2!

[@donf3877]

And during the Korean War... and in Nam as well. He was also a commander (as a General) of the Air Force Reserve in California. Many of the male stars in Hollywood fought in wars, something you will never see again... unless they fight for the other side.

[@ince55ant]

humans are both really good at killing and avoiding being killed

[@jonathanallard2128]

The game of war is important enough that many a genius has given it time for thought and innovation, clearly.

[@moos5221]

if they were equally good (or more like getting equally fund distribution) in helping others the world would be a better place.

[@ince55ant]

@@moos5221 several countries have enough nuclear arms to destroy the entire planet many times. Yet every day we avoid nuclear armageddon

[@jonathanallard2128]

@@moos5221 If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...

[@moos5221]

@@jonathanallard2128 do you think that's a smart thing to say that helps more then ifs and buts?

[@ObltKG4]

The courage, unmatched. The bravery equal to the task

[@timrohrbach1801]

This should be taught in schools today! Kids need to know how to avoid flak!

[@Arborpress]

That would be insane. Just pop the video in, don't even tell the kids what they're about to watch. "THERE WILL BE A QUIZ AT THE END OF THE VIDEO!!"

[@reallyhappenings5597]

kids need calculus which is all this is

[@coolloafofbread6462]

@@reallyhappenings5597 if calculus was taught like this I would be a lot more interested, could be alone with that opinion though :D

[@acrowsnest_t6630]

God, made 80 years ago, but their technolegy and training videos are so advanced. Everything is perfectly explained and visualized. This is the Akira Kurosawa of edjucational footage.

[@castoresnegros]

very encourage vid for the boys back in the day!!

[@turnupthesun81]

15:16 that’s the true definition of “Balls to the Wall”.

[@TheLaXandro]

Would be interesting to see how they made the diagrams.

[@hardlogic3046]

It's the same technique used in animation; which isn't a term limited to cartoons but a lot of people who made cartoons worked on these and propaganda cartoons, because it was the only things they could produce with their skills given the circumstances. the 30's and 40's were when animation began to boom to eventually reach its silver age around 42~47, and had its golden age in the 60's to then decline in the late 70's.

[@spencegame]

Simply put, Walt Disney

[@OswaldOstfalen]

My grandma was a "Flakwaffenhelferin" from 1944-45 .. I still have her photos in the flak positions. Today she is 95 years old. I hope she's still alive a little.. Double-hulled Lightning .. she says every time I ask ..☺

[@administrator5535]

i love these old cartoon-like films they are so knowledgable yet funny at times

[@goodhorsehymn]

This is SO well explained.

[@ericastier1646]

The whole era around end of WWII to the 1970 was extremely brilliant in terms of clarity of thought, integrity in explanation (none of that ego centric mumbo jumbo getting in the way) , engineering had no computers so they knew how to make an idea as clear as possible so that more complex system of thoughts could be created without a computer. Computers basically just rot this whole system and now smartphone also ruined the relation between people (ironically they were supposed to do the exact opposite, but let's not keep on that lie, the only real reason for the existence of smartphone was to make something since they could, they had no clue what it could be used for but just sell as many as possible, they'll figure out how to program it later. Stupid Jobs made it a fashion statement and that's how it took off when it was in fact a completely worthless product and still is, is erased a whole generation from having a normal outdoor life).

[@LowtechLLC]

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; Or close the wall up with our English dead. In peace there's nothing so becomes a man As modest stillness and humility: But when the blast of war blows in our ears, Then imitate the action of the tiger; Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage; Then lend the eye a terrible aspect; Let pry through the portage of the head Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it As fearfully as doth a galled rock O'erhang and jutty his confounded base, Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean. Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide, Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit To his full height. On, on, you noblest English. Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof! Fathers that, like so many Alexanders, Have in these parts from morn till even fought And sheathed their swords for lack of argument: Dishonour not your mothers; now attest That those whom you call'd fathers did beget you. Be copy now to men of grosser blood, And teach them how to war. And you, good yeoman, Whose limbs were made in England, show us here The mettle of your pasture; let us swear That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not; For there is none of you so mean and base, That hath not noble lustre in your eyes. I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips, Straining upon the start. The game's afoot: Follow your spirit, and upon this charge Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!

[@lorenzo6mm]

Amen. UK, USA and ANZACS forever. The saviors of Democracy and the Peace. May God shine his light on them the few who did so much for so many for the world as we know it.

[@TechnikMeister2]

70% of all B17 losses in Europe in WW2 were to flak. The Luftwaffe deliberately did not attack formations as a general rule. They flew above them and radioed in the formations course, height and speed. Then the flak batteries, which were radar controlled, put up a box of flak through which the formations had to fly. It was carnage. Whereas the British chose to fly at night. They crossed the coast at 100' and followed an irregular course to the target to give the Germans as little advance warning as possible and to approach under the radar.

[@ggaggagga4]

The Brits just didn't have the resources to be able to make daylight bombing work. It damned near broke US before the tide turned.