Comparing Final Fantasy 7 to FF7 Remake

In this video, we're comparing the legendary Final Fantasy 7 to Final Fantasy 7 Remake

[@danielharmon15]

14:00 The 2020 Remake actually still provides choice to the player when going up the Shinra Building. Once you go through the garage and have Tifa get the keycard, you have the choice of going to the left and going up the stairwell peacefully (albeit fun character moments) or head straight to the elevators "guns blazing" where you will have a few fight encounters with Shinra.

[@gotreddonyou2439]

I came to the comment section specifically to say this exact same thing. I was so happy they kept the choice. Both are still great options.

[@CuteSceneChic]

@@gotreddonyou2439 Yeah the first time I played I chose the stairs and the second time I chose the elevator. I will always tell people to do the stairs. It's so much fun to listen to the banter and I love the fact that the characters feel the same way you do when you just about to reach the top.

[@Erikthedood]

Utterly bizarre that the person that uploaded this video makes a video this long and doesn’t even know that you could choose how to go up the building in remake…pretty lame

[@MahoganyBlack]

I was just about to say this. How does the guy not know you have the option to use the stairs or elevator at the Shinra building. It’s a pretty clear option at that point in the game 😑

[@aliaubreyswink6767]

He probably knew that but people love to belittle and that jabs at this game as much as they can even if they need to make up flaws to uplift their boomer original game

[@boomerpatrol2838]

i went into remake with knowledge that it was going to be different to the original game so the shellshock of that was minimal, the ending however was a complete mindfuck. i like both games equally but for different reasons. they aren't the same game, both gameplay and story wise, so much so that i argue that you have to the play the original before playing the remake. Remake very much assumes you've played the original game and i think you can't really appreciate the changes and little details without playing the original, it also gives away some of the twists of the original game early that i say takes away from them a bit. both are great games and i recommend both of them.

[@undertakernumberone1]

or you played the original and dislike the changes because you expected the same story in more grand and modern.

[@DravenxEyeless]

"REMAKE" is just a subtitle of the game. It's actually a pseudo-sequel, since as you said, game expects you to have prior knowledge of the original plot (including spin offs like Crisis Core)

[@boomerpatrol2838]

@DravenxEyeless yeah pretty much any I understand how that can be a point of criticism of the game because it's not really a true remake

[@RicPendragon]

From what I've seen in game and interviews, as we all know, there are still a lot of Sephiroth remnants and reunion clones, one of course being Cloud, and because of this, Sephiroth's will was somehow able to travel in the lifestream to trigger changes in the past. We don't know how much future knowledge he has, but I think this series of "remakes" will be focusing on finally wiping out all of the Jenova cells and Sephiroth remnants for good. And if that means I can play a game I love from a new perspective and not know what's coming, then hell yeah! I'm terrified that I don't know what's going to happen, and I love it!

[@XanderVJ]

​@@DravenxEyeless Not a "pseudo" sequel. Just a sequel. The "Remake" part was an elaborate lie, and honestly, the Japanese intelligence bureau (or the closest equivalent) should hire Square Enix 's marketing and brand management department yesterday. The way they essentially gaslighted the entire planet into accepting this ruse, instead of the utter insult it is, would turn Japan into a geopolitical superpower in less than a decade.

[@greghaggerty9996]

Thinking of it as filler and padding just seems like setting yourself up for a bad time. I played the remake first and felt that it was very well paced. Everything felt relevant and fun. I was actually surprised when I went back and played the original and so much of it wasn't there. I think knowing what's gonna happen from the start makes you impatient to get to the parts you recognize instead of enjoying the extra content on its own terms.

[@carlosjuliop]

This. I just don't get this "padding" complaint. Like, what's your rush in getting to the next set piece? Just enjoy your time in this world and with these characters, man. I wanted to spend a week doing missions with Tifa in sector 7 before going to the next reactor lol.

[@gabrielnovais871]

@@carlosjuliop I kinda agree that the additional parts are really nice and cool for the narrative, but after the second playthrough, some parts are really boring to do again, like that mechanical arm or Corneo's Coliseum just to get to the part that you want. Also, this game not having a boss rush mode is one of the few flaws that it has, because it is really a pain to complete 90% of a chapter just to get to the boss fight

[@carlosjuliop]

@@gabrielnovais871 You mean the part with the mechanical arms with the amazing music and atmosphere with Aerith? I just don't look at games that way. I replay them because I want to experience them again, not to get to some boss fight or set piece as fast as possible. That said, having all the bosses in the simulator would be nice I suppose.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

There's the good stuff when the characters are front and center where they and the relationships are fleshed out more or those serious, powerful emotional moments like when the plate goes down or when you reach the top and look down and see the destruction and feel the weight of it all. And then there's the filler like running around to fetch cats or kids or whatever it is the quest giver wants. These aren't exclusive to FF7R and lots of other games do this too but it's still annoying no matter what game it's in. I also personally didn't like it when you often got railroaded and couldn't go in a certain direction as your forced to slow walking speed and given a warning you can't go that way. Especially annoying like in the church when you meet Aerith the first time they taunt you with a materia right there and you're blocked from getting it, like it's right there let me have the shiny 😂 These are just nitpicks for the most part though I do hope Rebirth makes the side stuff more interesting like the card game, that looks like fun and will hit the same notes Gwent did for me in Witcher 3.

[@BobEllwood]

I agree. Padding is too negative a term for what it is. Everything Remake does either 1. Expands the narrative 2. Teaches the player a game mechanic or provides them a fun challenge with a meaningful reward 3. Helps the pacing of the game by giving the player things to do other than watch cutscenes 4. Usually (though not always haha) all 3 I also think the video was spot on when he mentioned how clouds expression mimic'd the players, but that's totally on purpose. FF7 Remake and Rebirth have a lot of side quests that poke fun on how 90's RPG's had boring, chore, side-content. Usually the characters remark how boring the quest is, it's played for laughs, and there's a fun twist halfway through so its not ACTUALLY boring.

[@joegardner851]

I might be in a minority but I love Remake. The padding and extra stuff in the game didn’t bother me as others. I enjoyed spending more time with the characters we grew up loving.

[@holy9781]

Ur not alone,I love it 2.i just dnt like a few things but hopefully rebirth fix em.ive gotten over the the plot twist,it is what it is.i can either hate it and complain and miss out on characters I been playing since I was literally 8 years old or enjoy this version ?once I got over it,I really love this game...hate the padding though lol

[@dansmith16]

Minority? You are prime consoomer.

[@Soniman001]

@@dansmith16idiot

[@kurisu7885]

I love it too, even if I didn't care for a few things in it.

[@Flopdoodle]

"Which is just a fancy way of saying the boss now has a weakspot - On it's arse." The deadpan delivery kills me.

[@sargentordb507]

You’ve never fought Sephiroth in any of the games. Only Jenova. Sephiroth has been in the North Crater and the livestream the entire time. His connection to the livestream allows Jenova to move freely.

[@Tvdvidro]

What about Crisis Core?

[@DLMoridin]

@@Tvdvidro till he gets yeeted into the nibelhiem reactor its the real deal.

[@Templar0Valkrye]

@@Tvdvidroin crisis core that is the real Seph. It’s after crisis core when seph falls into the reactor that you stop (directly) interacting with him

[@PetrosofSparta]

I mean, you do at the end of the game. That’s definitely Sephiroth in the final fight not Jenova.

[@austin_shock]

I'm in my 30's, and FF7 is still the best piece of entertainment I've ever experienced.

[@frost-80]

The original game is a masterpiece. I don't like the combat, or the mechanics. But, the story and the original soundtrack is amazing.

[@LakrimaProject]

Same, just the best.

[@anon_y_mousse]

That's an interesting choice to make Cloud always be the one Corneo chooses. That part I feel like they should've kept the same. It's kind of a test in a way, and a bit of a puzzle. Get the right combination of items and you get chosen. Pick the wrong things or fail to collect the right things and you're relegated to the basement or a locked room.

[@jakekgfn]

Yea it’s little things like this that really don’t matter but you still notice it. I’d love a genuine 1:1 remake of the original but then it’d probably be like a 1tb game

[@ChrisGrump]

Only 4 days to Rebirth. Can't wait.

[@iamjoehill]

The icon on my PS5 started downloading about a half hour ago😊😊😊😊😊

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

@@iamjoehill Has it finished yet?

[@noahsteltenpool3505]

@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCoversI finished the game and I couldn’t believe they killed sephiroth off this early and the nanako sex scene with barrett was a bit weird

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

@@noahsteltenpool3505 It's concerning that in this day and age, if I didn't already know the ending I wouldn't be entirely sure you were joking.

[@qtmhell]

@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCoversi did. Last thursday

[@DallingerM]

I’m so glad I found this channel, I love your content 👌🏽 your comparison videos are some of your best! Keep throwing out these hits and you’ll be at 200k in no time brah 😬

[@jdev9611]

are the ig comments leaking out to youtube!!?

[@DallingerM]

@@jdev9611 problem?

[@Soulferno]

Before Remake came out, I decided to play the og FF7 but only by section as that's how the remade games were confirmed to be. I was spoiled about major plot stuff a long time ago so I had no issue learning where these new games would start and end. Strictly going by this criteria, I had a very different outlook on Remake compared to the half fanbase that said Remake got it wrong. While not making any outright accusations, I will at least say that og fans can be confusing at times. I can understand the real criticisms around padding because there is indeed quite a bit of it but the og Midgar has a lot of life to it aesthetically but not as a character. The Avalanche gang, save for Barret, were bland and nobodies who were written as fodder for shock value to raise story stakes, Shinra itself felt off with comically goofy yet cartoonishly evil villains and the general vibe went back and forth on a genuinely interesting story to a very decent to alright one. The quality didn't dip exactly at any point but for me, the game picked up immensely after leaving Midgar entirely. Then again, then entire story arc of Midgar is meant to be an introduction to a larger story as Shinra was more or less sidelined for Sephiroth at the last second. Not counting Hojo's importance to everything, I found Midgar to be an entertaining yet not all that unique start to FF7 in retrospect. Remake made Midgar feel like a real place with real people. People who mattered and weren't just funny NPC's to talk to. It had a lot of padding for sure but not all of it was bad or even meaningless. I found myself seeing what was different but not really caring because I liked Midgar conceptually but you don't spend as much time in it as one would think in the og(not until much later that is). Remake fleshed out a lot of areas that made the whole place feel like it had a greater story to tell from everyone in it. A few places certainly didn't stick the landing but what I got from Remake blew the og out of the water by a long shot. I understand the Whispers are also a point of contention but I never felt they were invasive, moreso just intriguing because they actively showed up during major deviations of the og. They could've been utilized better but they started to feel integral after awhile, even with the crazy boss fight towards the end. Giving Sephiroth more of a role to play is also something I vibe with because the game doesn't shy away from switching villains like the og but rather shares them. Shinra is very much threatening in the Remake and that never once lets up even when you start seeing visions of Sephiroth clearly torturing Cloud mentally and emotionally. This balance of factions and character interactions, to me, makes Remake far better than the og Midgar. Overall, I can't and won't stand on the nostalgia argument for why people dislike or like Remake. I think objectively, they're both stellar games despite their issues. Rebirth will likely live up to the hype as I am currently going through the og version and having a blast. I'm very much looking forward to what's been redone and added, especially seeing as how the demo really does it's job of showing you what it's all about. Honestly, I recommend you play any of these games, altogether or otherwise because these are gaming history and should be experienced

[@hyruleguy9569]

Yup. He calls the new stuff "filler" as if most of it wasn't good. Simply the extra time you get with all the characters does a *lot* to make you care about them and everything going on in the game. This was my first FF game, so even though I inevitably knew all the spoilers from OG FFVII beforehand, I had no attachment to it, so I was able to enjoy Remake for what it was instead of what I wanted it to be. Then I went back and started playing the PS1 version.

[@winglesslegend3649]

Now this guy explained it perfectly

[@castaway__7235]

“Giving Sephiroth more of a role to play” except it’s not lol, it’s taking everything about his whole character away, he’s supposed to be revealed later as he heavily impacts the plot… your literally ruining the villain by showing him too early, there’s many people who have broken down why this is terrible writing, you think you know what your talking about but you don’t…

[@negimaaddict742]

0:10 The 2012 remake?

[@evanlundgren5339]

Looks like he cut it out of the video now.

[@warfield8671]

The original was one of my first games on Playstation. It's one of my favorite games of all time. The characters, story, music, materia system, simply amazing.

[@Ronfost89]

I enjoy the "remake" as it's own thing but I can't say I love it. I don't like the bait and switch marketing as I expected a remake to be just that, not what is essentially a TV live action remake that has the same characters but a completely different story.

[@MASJYT]

FF7: Netflix adaptation.

[@Ronfost89]

It would have been a perfect name.@@MASJYT

[@GribbleGob]

should have called it FF7: Midgar. that way it would just seem like a modern remake of the first section of the game and the lame twists would stay a surprise.

[@BalboaBaggins]

It's called a reimagining.

[@GribbleGob]

@@BalboaBaggins it was released and advertised as Remake mr baggins

[@chrismeier8560]

Great, now I have to play the remake, I guess. Looks good. Awesome Video as always!

[@Psychokyuubi666]

Hello there, I have both the original, and the 2 - Parts of this Trilogy, and I can say both are worthy of their reception. While this upload is a good comparison Video, it was wrong about the Shinra Building infiltration. You do get the option to take either the Stairs or Elevator, they’re switched positions though instead of storming the front.

[@clinto32]

Yes please to another version for rebirth!! Also nice dementor callouts. I never played FF7 but immediately thought of dementors when I first saw those ghostly things

[@Chr15Payne]

14:01 you don't have to take the stairs, you can take the elevator.

[@Brianhahahaha]

I love your videos even though I never played or plan to play them your voice is therapeutic lol you could have a great career as a voice actor or a Podcaster or a radio dj personal I would love to see you do voice acting.

[@signalzero77]

Just finished playing Remake with my fiancee who's never played the original. We loved it!

[@Hogan231]

I have both the original and the remake.

[@MasterofTheUniverse1337]

I have The Original(Smartphone Version).

[@luciusirving5926]

Good for you!

[@tgreg9542]

👍🏾

[@jamessantiago6883]

In the remake you can still Choose stairs or elevator in the Shinra building

[@SaintLemon]

I played this game when it launched on ps4. Throughout my life I've played FF7 on ps1, switch, pc, xbox, and ps4. The entire sequence of Midgar takes place in up to 6 hours. You can breeze through it on any original playthrough. What I love about Remake is it allows a more in depth look at Midgar; the people who live there both above and below the surface. It expands this super linear quest into allowing the player to get in touch with WHY and WHO they're fighting for. Jesse's dad is suffering from Mako poisoning, hence why she's so adamant on the cause. Aerith is super uplifting and almost "fake" because she's hiding something and just wants to be normal. Barret has this overall resolve of why he's fighting that becomes fleshed out. In the end the remake expanded on what was a "mundane" part of the game and gave the player a reason as to WHY they're doing what they are. Why the connections and people are so important. I have played through this story 4 times now and every time I learn something new. It's a great game and opens the eyes of the players to know exactly what they're working toward. Not only that, it gives more background into antagonists, side characters, and otherwise uninteresting characters. They all serve a purpose, whereas in the original, they were just passerby's. I love Remake and how it aimed to flesh out the world of Midgar, and since Rebirth has come out, the same is true for that. It fleshes out parts where the player was once like, "oh this would be cool to see animated." We see the Midgarsomr actually end up on a pike and and a quick glance as to the original "Oh Sephiroth was here..." We see the flashback and players who KNOW what's going on can easily recognize something isn't right here. Both Remake and Rebirth are fleshing out a world which in the beginning was mundane and could easily be walked through. And that's why I love SE for making this game into what it has.

[@phawxhunter]

I played the OG back when they did the Compilation campaign, then 100% when the Steam version was released. When I played Remake, I had my first "WTF?" at the start when Sephiroth is revealed so early, and I only realised this was not a Remake but a Multiverse Sequel when Cloud talks to OG Aerith in the garden.

[@Honeybadger5408]

OG Aerith in the garden?

[@Psychokyuubi666]

According to Yoshinori Kitase it’s a reimagining of the first game, not a sequel.

[@BalboaBaggins]

It's called a reimagining.

[@abritishguy4713]

I had never played a FF game before remake, so I think I was able to appreciate all the extra stuff more because I never realised what was new and what wasn’t. Even then I was able to put it together that the game was deviating from the original story but actually making that a part of the plot. The only thing that really threw me off was Zack, that just comes out of nowhere.

[@DanielisAwesome52]

I never played the original, so I enjoyed all the "padding" they added. All the new stuff and the grander scale to it all made the game feel like the experience my Dad, Uncle, and 2 Step Brothers would gush about when I was little. The fact that I had some 20+ years of the legend of Final Fantasy VII and no actual context for the gameplay made everything in Remake so good. When I beat Remake I did try to play the original and got al the way out of Midgar in maybe 5 hours. I imagine had I played it before the Remake I would be as annoyed by the extra stuff but I am enjoying both Remake and Rebirth with child-like wonder and only spoilers due to osmosis. Its a genuinely new experience for me and I'm glad I never ruined that for myself. The Sephiroth fight was a nice treat 4 years ago, Had the game just ended after the Jenova monster and them leaving Midgard I think hype for Rebirth wouldn't have carried for 4 whole years. At least for me. It was a nice fanservice moment for something to come. Essentially just a playable trailer. On a replay or if anyone tries to do a "Full" playthrough once every game is out I imagine it wont hold as much weight and feel almost gaudy right before switching to Rebirth.

[@caveriathick]

You can take the elevator in the remake tho.

[@holy9781]

I've played this game 6 times and I just did it for the 1st time last month,it actually had funny scenes lol.i hate the steps noe

[@LetLinkCook]

For the flashes of the future scene, square enix actually used the Advent Children scenes, and if you look carefully, in the flashes for the future scene, cloud holds a different busterblade that has a different design compared to the remake

[@Makocat]

It was implied by Jessie that she was shocked her explosion was so strong and caused so much damage. However, either that was lost on translation or it was left for interpretation and remake just decided to show it directly instead of being ambiguous right off the bat. We might never know.

[@DLMoridin]

iirc once you get back to the hideout in the original you can talk to her and she makes a comment about not expecting the blast to be that big and that perhaps she made a mistake following the instructions. though every comparison between the two games ive seen seem to actually miss those line of dialoge.

[@Alovon]

FF7 Remake is pretty much a combination of a Retelling and Sequel/Reboot (Remake being a bit of an in-universe allusion to how the game is a remaking of events) We, as the player, are viewing it as a retelling. But in-universe, it's a Sequel/Reboot, Sephiroth seemingly being from the OG FF7 Timeline, and being the creator of this new reality (His attempts and success at altering things spurring The Whispers to awaken). So, with the Whispers defeated/now controlled by Sephiroth, the future as it was in the OG FF7 is not fixed, things can change, but now Sephiroth can seemingly use the Whispers to try to enforce the future *he* wants now. What that future is, it's unknown (as the game says, the Unkown Journey continues). But it is one where the Extinction of Humanity may not be guaranteed anymore as it was in the OG FF7 Timeline.

[@XanderVJ]

It's a sequel. Full stop. Seriously, the way Square Enix has managed to gaslight the entire planet into accepting that BS narrative you just uttered will never cease to amaze me.

[@diccchocolate416]

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[@BalboaBaggins]

It's called a reimagining.

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

I loved the chapter where you visit Jessie's parents. It was great to flesh out the rest of Avalanche more and it also gave us something that was really lacking in the original, a glimpse of life above the plate. Honestly, I wish Remake gave us more of that.

[@dd4Xero]

Thank you! Part 2 whould be nice :)

[@estebandejesus7236]

Can you please make a video about final fantasy7 remake part 2.

[@Souljaboy260]

would you do Lord of the rings conquest? its such a battlefront clone and was curious to hear your thoughts on it

[@mathuasher9184]

Im about 20 hours into the original atm. Loving it. I wanna do this so I can appreciate the new ones when I inevitably plau them. Been watching my roommate play Remake while I play the old on my Switch. Im really seeing why FF7 has the accolades it has. Its well earned.

[@suaviant]

Sounds on point! The changes are I, despite being a VII superfan, am still not interested in anything other than some of the merch.

[@deity752]

The thing that i hated about the Remake was that everything felt so clean in the slums. The npcs all look like supermodels and they're all wearing fashionable clothes and having cheery conversations. There's none of the dirtiness and hopelessness that i felt were present in the original.

[@dansmith16]

They didn't look dirty in OG either.

[@CreativeWM_Personal]

Correction, Biggs doesn't die instead he lives and has a role in Rebirth

[@Honeybadger5408]

He died like Zack did…just not in our timeline lol

[@willcheat]

I have a lot of qualms about the remake, but my biggest gripe was the plate and subsequent fight against the turks (originally just Reno). The plate support sequence in the original was tense. Battle music never stopped as you climbed up. You saw the avalanche gang and they gave a few farewell words, but the moment was always pressing and you couldn't stop to talk to them. You made it all the way to the top real quick because of that. There, you met Reno for the second time, whose only job is to trigger the pillar bomb. He effortlessly lands, goes past the gang, arms the bomb, and when Tifa says it has to be disarmed, he says he can't let them do that and the fight starts. Reno here isn't fighting to beat the team, he's just there to buy time. It's 3 VS 1 and he still handles the gang without too much problem, before zipping off. In the remake, the support sequence is a slog. Jesse and Wedge gives a touching farewell that just lasts forever. I understand they tried to flesh out their characters, but there are some hellishly pressing matters that need to be taken care of. The climb also has a lot of "hide from the helicopter sequence" that, again, break the momentum of the scene. Once you reach the top, you fight Reno, and then Rude in his helicopter, and you beat them both. They're down and nearly dead, but then Reno upgrades to cutscene Reno and, through the power of pulling stuff from his behind, manages to run past Cloud and crew (who got downgraded to their onomatopoeia spouting cutscene versions) to arm the bomb, dooming sector 7. The original has a stressful moment that lets you meet one of the recurring antagonist of the game, who barely has time for you. The remake has a stretched thin padded climb into a pretty impressive looking fight that makes the turks look equal/inferior to cloud and gang, only to get shafted by a cutscene.

[@Yue665]

The game itself was pretty inconsistent with the materia size, so it was pretty easy to get different ideas of how big they were. The original's cutscenes even showed holy as being the size of the marble, while the black materia was the size of a billiard ball. So pretty they can be whatever size lol

[@eji]

17:15 also, the sequence leading up to this showdown, with Cloud flying down to meet Sephiroth and the quick cuts between one another is basically a shot-for-shot remake of the very end of the original game where you have that final showdown with a shirtless Sephiroth and unleash your Omnislash limit on him.... but I guess since he doesn't have that limit break at this point of the story maybe that's why he barely does anything to Seph in this version.

[@ATPokemon]

i"ve never been this early to one of your videos

[@dmitch1983]

Definitely do a follow up video

[@Koniving]

5:37 actually we see the place blow in OG, but we get dialog later indicating the explosion was too big, not knowing how it got so big, and lots of guilt over how the bomb was made as it must have been what she did. We just weren't shown the Shinra side of it, but there was always the implication that something else was going on.

[@youhaveayds8975]

The guy in the Sector 5 slums pipe is actually a Sephiroth clone, after googling it because I was shocked it wasn't in the remake its probably because they added way more of these clones hobbling around, but it would've been cool if it was some random clone who's degradation just started and you see the shift between a normal person and being a degraded clone, although I expect they're waiting to show something like that with Cloud or something

[@konradfun]

It's kinda wild how FFVIIR can look both good and bad at the same time. Like animations and particle effects look really good but then you'll see a random barrel or low poly rando dude and wonder where the budget went. The lighting is also just all over the place.

[@jedigamer9935]

Great video. I love Final Fantasy 7

[@RyanHaney55]

I appreciate how pretty the characters are in the remake, but I prefer turn-based fights in Final Fantasy. Also, I don't like dance minigames.

[@davidparedes8972]

I'd love to see this same type of video but with FF7 rebirth

[@HolyHadou]

Played the PS4 version and between Cloud's Door and the Midgar Plate Climb where you look down on the city, kinda felt like an early beta tester for the PS5/PC version. Story changes I kinda hated overall but liked some of what was done with the characters. Some of it. Combat and gameplay was a hoot.

[@JorgeHighwind]

The thing about FFVII Remake is that it's not a remake. Its subtitle is "Remake", just like the second part's subtitle is "Rebirth". Was this done on purpose to mislead people? You can bet your ass on it. The game keeps showing you things that weren't there in the original and taking away the sense of familiarity you have while playing.

[@GribbleGob]

It was done on purpose people FF7 fanboys cried for a remake for years and let themselves get lied to. SQ has never been an honest company

[@castaway__7235]

@@GribbleGobwhat do you expect when it’s nomura who’s been directing since 2005 the writing has gone downhill. And Sakaguchi gone your never going to get true ff games. The gold standard of never creating a sequel of a game or a true fleshed out story with no bs

[@NebLleb]

IMO, There's a place for both the original in its turn-based glory and the ongoing trilogy of Remakes which reimagine the plot. VII and VIIre1 were my first FF games, but I played more of VIIre1 because I was stuck on the boss fight against Dyne. Both are really good games in their own way, however (I particularly find how they got the characters to emote in VII really fascinating and endearing with the exaggerated body movements and subtitles in the cutscenes due to voice acting not being a thing in RPGs east-side at that time)

[@castaway__7235]

How do you manage to get to the Dyne Boss fight, but not be able to beat Dyne? Do you just suck at the game no offense. But that fight is rather a cakewalk… there are more difficult boss fights

[@northseapirate2313]

“Although it takes about forty more hours to get there 'cos it's padded like an A-cup on school picture day” -Yahtzee

[@jal4319]

13:42 that was definitely my favorite part in all of the remake, the scenary is just breathtaking.

[@zeldahero5990]

Yes, if you could compare the overworld section of FF7 to Rebirth, that would be awesome.

[@Flopdoodle]

So about the changes: I really would've preferred if they had made changes to the story without including the whispers. As a narrative tool; they feel like the writers dropped the pen and took hold of a sledgehammer - then proceeds to whack the players over their heads; with about as much finesse and subtlety as the delivery: "THIS. IS. GOING. TO. BE. DIFFERENT!!!". Would've preferred a finer touch, a more natural way to make changes to the story. Besides, "fate" narratives always rub me the wrong way because it absolves the characters of all their actions since they were destined to make them, effectively removing any agency they had. But as you said: It's the first game in a trilogy so we'll have to wait and see how it wraps up. No denying it's ballsy.

[@PauLtus_B]

"Besides, "fate" narratives always rub me the wrong way because it absolves the characters of all their actions since they were destined to make them, effectively removing any agency they had." Absolutely! Mostly wanted to point out that I enjoy your insight on that because I'm not sure how many people get that. It's just like "main character, you are important because the plot says so." The only good (sub)version of that trope is the Greek tragedy style of characters causing their fate by trying to prevent it.

[@CosmicWatermeln]

It's a good thing that in rebirth whispers are completely absent (as far as I know, I haven't beaten it yet.)

[@diccchocolate416]

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[@diccchocolate416]

But isn't the point of the whispers that the characters reject their fate? Isn't that them having agency?

[@FeaRAp0calypse]

In the OG, the part where you wake up in the Shinra building with the doors unlocked, creepy music, blood all over the floor, was always scary as heck to me. Remake did not keep the same vibe.

[@GeovaneSanciniSR]

It's a shame that the NES chinese bootleg version isn't mentioned

[@EPOC903]

I agree with you. The graphics and execution of some of the core plot were great in the remake. For me personally, my favourite part of the original game was always leaving midgar and having the whole world open up. So in that respect, Remake was a bit of disappointment as it padded out a lot of content.

[@josuerestrepo1476]

Thank you! I really appreciate this

[@patyos2]

You should do a video on the new Crisis Core

[@jedimasterpickle3]

Having never played the original FF7, I just took my time with Remake and enjoyed every minute of it. I can see how a lot of the new additions can be considered padding, though. And yeah the ending was a pretty big mindfuck, but I thought the Sephiroth boss fight was a lot of fun and the remix of One-Winged Angel was incredible.

[@pablocasas5906]

I haven't played the remake since I don't have a PS4 or PS5 but I find it fascinating how Square-Enix expanded the game compared to the original. Speaking about the original game, I was around 4 when FFVII and I didn't actually play it until I was in my teens, sadly I got a pirated copy from the European Spanish translation of the game, which I thought it would be great since the game was translated, but that translation is awful, filled with typos and errors, but for some reasons Aerith and Sephiroth are still referred as Aeris and Sefirot in modern Spanish translations to this day. It took me years to actually beat the game, but since the I finished the entire game three times and mamaged to obtain all the characters' final Limit Breaks. Still, while FFVII is not my favorite game in the seires, I can understand why it had such an impact, I just hope that Rebirth and the final game in the remake project will satisfy long-time fans. I also hope that Square will remake some other FF games in the future, but not like they did with VII

[@Pastafari4]

I do like Remake, but I will say, yeah, it's padded. But honestly I feel it expands a lot on the dungeons in a fun way. But ultimately it's a companion to FF7 rather than a replacement or a true Remake

[@Stavvy0]

You thought the materia were small? Did you not see them slotted into the Buster Sword on art?

[@siloPIRATE]

I also thought they were small until I saw Yuffie hold one

[@greenhowie]

The original is for a different kind of gamer. I no longer actively detest the remake franchise because I have no reason to. To put it bluntly: Square Enix is a completely different company from Squaresoft with completely different target demographics and a completely different business model. As such they could not simply make the same game but upgraded in every way - the differences are key to monetizing the fandom and maintaining continuous revenue through other sources such as merchandise, spinoff games and advertising deals with other companies. I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad thing, since anyone can spend their money how they wish, it's simply a statement - FF7 was a breakthrough hit that took the world by storm and FF7R was carefully crafted to be the centre of a franchise. I'm not the kind of gamer who gets into fandoms, so it's just not my kind of game. You like it? Cool, enjoy. We good.

[@NorrisFoxx]

I am very disappointed they decided to go the route they took with the game instead of giving the fans the updated remake we had been asking for over the years. This game would have been perfect if they'd just left out all of the fate and time stuff that they unnecessarily added to the story. Then, they got my hopes up again with Final Fantasy VII: Ever Crisis only for that to end in disappointment as well. The original Final Fantasy VII is my favorite game ever. It gave me so many fond memories and emotional experiences and actually helped mold many of my deeply held personal beliefs and values, as well as my overall worldview. So, I had been hoping and looking forward to reexperiencing it all again someday, upgraded for current gen consoles. Now, I know it'll never happen.

[@Odelayderado]

Idk if I should wait until all three remakes come out it but those remake it’s crazy expensive and it a couple years old it’s almost $100 where in my currency

[@funkybuddhaInit]

The original is so special to me. Experiencing it for the first time in the 90's was magical. Recent playthroughs have also been a blast. The game has aged surprisingly well. Some of the mini games haven't aged well, but they are a relatively small part of the game so aren't a big deal. The "Remake" was the most painful gaming experience of my life and it's easily the worst game I have ever played. The combat is boring and repetitive as you can slash and dodge your way through most of the battles. The exploration is repetitive and boring because modern Square don't know how to design levels. The side quests are pointless, boring filler that are big waste of time. The look and atmosphere of Midgar is a mixed bag, some places feel unrecognisable due to odd lighting choices or having an overall different design (For example Wall Market looks like a completely different place). The voice acting is a mixed bag. The main cast are good but side characters sound unauthentic and take me out of the game. The story changes are jarring and utterly bizarre because the "Remake" is essentially a sequel that takes place in an alternate timeline, as opposed to a remake of the original. People new to the series would not only be lost regarding some of the events that are unfolding, but some of the original story elements are outright spoiled for them! A major plot twist from later on in the original game is hinted at very early on in the "Remake" and I have no way to comprehend why the hell they would feel the need to do that, as it benefits nobody.

[@lucylu3342]

Worst game you've ever played? Most painful gaming experience of your life? Come on, stop bullshitting lol With that mindset, you'd consider the original FF7 repetitive because you're just using your most strongest move over and over and getting into 29 random encounters to get to a chest across the room.

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

I absolutely understand where you're coming from. I was really disappointed too.

[@karthisplays]

A key point that casuals miss about the Sephiroth fight at the end of FF7 Remake is that in the original game, this is a fight we just never got. Cloud and the party never fight Sephiroth, they only fight his God forms at the very end of the game. So this battle, was a LONG time (23 years) coming and a gift to the fanbase. You're just memeing here for people who dont know any better

[@Wierie_]

im only in chapter 11 lol, might come back to this video.

[@michaelhowell2809]

Love how you skip the train graveyard

[@blud890]

After watching this im glad i played the remake first and then played the original. I was able to fully enjoy both without noticing the padding in the remake

[@DoukNoukum]

Be honest tho, playing the original afterwards felt far more comfortable without having to do all the padded stuff over again

[@alescano3504]

How to forget the time when Sephiroth came to Midgar and meteored all over the place and Aerith was like 'no, i'll cast holy using Shinra president's body as ahost'. Man... those times...

[@xMissMaveNx]

The original will always and forever be the best. Might start a replay on it this week! Haven't played thru it since it came out.

[@contrapasta2454]

While I don't regard FFVII as a whole to be the greatest RPG ever made, the first disc is essentially a perfect 6-8 hours. That's how a lot of us remember it, and seeing it expanded into 30 is definitely not something everyone wanted. Taken on its own merits it is fine, but seeing the pacing of the perfect disc slowed way down is a mental adjustment to say the least. I enjoyed remake but could never get over the nagging feeling whenever the brakes were applied. It made up for it in the high notes though.

[@ians_parks]

Disc one is 20-25 hours long and ends at the forgotten capital, exactly where Rebirth ends. Remake and Rebirth combined cover disc one.

[@tungle1991]

Though I like the JRPG but I'd the way they adapted FF7 remake with modern RPG, it looka like you're really roleplaying in real time

[@user-yv4mm6bx3c]

The only "padding" I felt was out of place was the second trip to the sewers. It was a bit of a drag. All the side quests, while they can be considered padding are optional. There is even incentive to skip them to get the trophies for Aerith's different dresses.

[@jedimindtricks89]

Personally, couldn't put the Remake down after starting, they did an amazing job with it! Can't wait to continue the journey in Rebirth!

[@rangokfunkazuul8344]

0:11 did you say "remaster" and then re-recorded it ?

[@mrbigglezworth42]

Early 3D models are never really going to age well, but man, those environments still look beautiful. Stuff like this makes me wonder if all the graphical fidelity we get now is making things too visually busy that you get the yellow paint problem. IE what's interactable and what isn't is not immediately or intuitively knowable by the player without the devs assuming the lowest common denominator is the player. Also known as a games journalist.

[@Hogan231]

Has anyone seen the trailer of Star Wars Battlefront Classic Collection?

[@M64bros]

I had, I'm also excited as well!!!

[@acmiguens]

It's been a while since I played the "remake", so correct me if I'm wrong, but it's actually a sequel. Sephiroth and Aerith both know what happened in the original game. Plus, we have the "dementors" trying to set things back to the original. It should be called, Final Fantasy VII Partially Altered Rethread

[@CrazyxEnigma]

You're correct. The "dementors" are done and dusted though no more fate shenanigans. "all according to keikaku"- Sephiroth, probably.

[@dansmith16]

It's pure fanon.

[@applehazeva2739]

I think thats the joke. Its no Remake. "REMAKE" is a Title

[@xSOCxGenesis]

Interesting, you dont seem to be the biggest fan of the changes made to the game in terms of story/ narration and I understand why, i dont necessarily agree with everything just being pointless filler thrown in. To me, most of whats added give more depth to the characters and makes them feel more "human" than in the OG, which, depending on when/ what version you've played, could be the one with the bad translations, typos and general errors. Im interested to see how you feel about rebirth after weve had time to digest its story, please keep up the interesting content!

[@mangermatilla1538]

Okay this is pretty cool Camparing video

[@viralshark]

I'm pretty sure that even in the OG, Shinra still sabotaged the bombing of reactor 1. There is like 1 line of dialogue very late in the game when the big Shinra heads are at a meeting where one of them admits they sabotaged avalanche.

[@backinyourcar155]

You read my Mind creating this video! Thanks Flandrew!

[@RyuNoZero]

11:34 this part is a fever dream, since you have to be asleep to believe that this is real

[@natashiwong4885]

Y’all do know FF7 Remake isn’t just a remake? its a sequel

[@nargissultana1956]

Love from India You deserve 10M subs Happy sabaa barataath🎉🎉 Keep tajvi

[@matthewhibbard9807]

I had the option to go straight up the elevator, or take the stairs. It wasn’t just the stairs in Remake.

[@MalachiLper]

If you remember running around Midgar, trying to be picked to be the next Don's wife and defeating Sephiroth, you grew up playing Final Fantasy 7. But which one? There's the original and the brand new remake which... Let's face it, you grew up with the original. But let's see how it compares to the remake.

[@emeraldnoir7099]

I'm actually playing this on my N3DS! (Original of course.. )

[@alexsoundstuff]

i wouldnt really call the added content filler though. obviously the shit with the water filters and other odd mercenary jobs, sure, but a lot of the added stuff is really damn fun and had me much more invested in the story as i was in the original

[@arslanmalik151]

It’s still weird it turns out to be a sequel to the original. I haven’t play rebirth so I don’t know what happened

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

15:38 "We then get some more Sephiroth f*ckery." This video started off impartial but all bets are off as we career towards the insane ending lol.

[@SupaOne1]

Can you make a video about the lego lord of the rings and hobbit games?

[@undertakernumberone1]

honestly... for me, a lot of hte additions (i am not talking about the STORY CHANGES, just the added stuff) really ruined the story flow. FOr me, the only good addition was the whole stuff with Jessie. The rest, for me, really screwed with the games pacing. Parts that were short in the original get turned into major dungeons... you get an additional return to the sewers for a character that is... not all that likeable... to get an upgrade to your grappling hook... For me, it just feels like they were desperate to stretch the run time of hte game to something they could charge full price to. Having 2 major dungeons (+ the new lab dungeons) around the plate fall part, or how long the finale took... it just, imho, got stretched for too long. Honestly, if they wanted to stretch it out, i'd ahve decompressed the Midgar part from a few days to, maybe, two weeks. Issue , of course, is that this would'Ve delayed meeting Aerith. But, over all, i think putting additional story time between Reactor 1 and 2 would have made more sense than stretching the stretch between Reactor 2 and Shinra HQ. Maybe you could've had Cloud explore Midgar a little and do odd jobs etc.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

I like Remake, it does a lot right and the only points against it are too much unnecessary filler, too much railroading, too many navigation sections like going through a small space to hide a loading screen and the pacing drags. I don't have the childhood attachment to FF7 a lot of people in my age group have since I didn't grow up with it but I played it as an adult about a decade ago to see what all the hype was about and I definitely saw why its considered one of the greats. If they nail Rebirth, chances are high they won't f*ck up part 3.

[@alaskanmalamute101]

Watching this reminds me how much better Rebirth is than remake was thinking they was about the same but there's alot less annoying stuff in rebirth. I never thought there's too much Sephiroth like I did in remake. Remake felt like it was on rails with the game pretty much giving you 1 way to go 90% of the time.

[@venomenace]

I think Rebirth does a decent job of answering some of these things but I haven't beaten it yet so I'll let u know later 😂