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@JWar-Ай бұрын
Making progress. Initially every Flash game was "Flash does old build and dies". Now we're at "Flash does a cool thing, but still dies". Next stop "Flash does a cool thing and wins".
@Euler271Ай бұрын
Lol
@zhuzhong74Ай бұрын
Next stop: Flash goes to ASL, does a semi old build and dies. Put up a video: I was never a meticulous player. I forgot to upgrade +2 when I’m playing upgrade Terran. My instinct is no more. Players nowadays are so good. I’m sorry for the fans.
@Euler271Ай бұрын
@@JWar- well in flash's defense he did win against jaedong with the old Goliath build
@juubatuuba8354Ай бұрын
LOL, we shall see one way ore another :) . Its is just amazing brood wars is being played at this level @@zhuzhong74
@SpheronicАй бұрын
What a great day we live in where we can see ASL level play on the daily. Truly the golden age of starcraft.
@NoSleepWibloАй бұрын
Is the asl lvl the 15 same Koreans every year or does that broaden over the horizon much
@swan9506Ай бұрын
Since the beginning of the post flash era (beginning 2021 (asl 11-17) the round of 16 has seen about 32 players IIRC 11 Terran (1 one-timer) 8 protoss (3 one-timers) 13 Zerg (5 one-timers) As far as round of 28 goes I haven't counted that but we see someone we haven't seen before almost every season
@NoSleepWibloАй бұрын
@@swan9506 32 players is better than 15. But I don’t think your including other stuff. I’ve rarely seen anyone new asl so maybe these numbers are a bit wrong and old?
@martinbalke1843Ай бұрын
Got a new job last month and I’m finally in a place where I can support this channel on patreon. Thanks for all the casts Artosis! Keep em coming.
@novitrix9671Ай бұрын
Praying I can join your ranks 🙏 👨🌾👷♂️👨🔧👨🏭
@noahbaker-kang5148Ай бұрын
Yeah screw retirement, keep workin hard and send that money to Arty
@AltereggoLol1Ай бұрын
I love the variety of units you see in TvT, definitely the best of the mirrors
@theSatoАй бұрын
if by 'variety of units' you mean 'mech'+'occasional starport units' then sure.
@Pangora2Ай бұрын
@@theSato Muta-ling is the alternative.
@liammorrissАй бұрын
Flash would have made my parents proud of me
@hendrixtjaden1Ай бұрын
This
@teaguegregory1600Ай бұрын
@@hendrixtjaden1 XD
@CmdrCharАй бұрын
Still love seeing the Flash games Arty!
@KuraiChanZАй бұрын
One thing people forget about Artosis "fanboying" over Flash is that if Flash comes back to ASL and stirs up the scene again, it's good for the health of the scene. Just like how Artosis and Tasteless were hyping up Jae Dong so much even though he was underperforming, relatively of course. The competitive scene needs storylines. I feel like they should be hyping up Snow more though
@chloesmith4065Ай бұрын
Snow is so good it's insane, he's one of the top Protoss right now without a doubt
@dj_koen1265Ай бұрын
snow was good back in 2019/20 too, he has been on top for a while
@theSatoАй бұрын
I don't know, I feel like SnOw gets hyped up plenty, every single time a match of his is casted or he is mentioned, there is gushing about his reaver micro and insane TvP presence
@SicktoidАй бұрын
I'm a Protoss guy through and through, but TvT is by far the best mirror in this game.
@kingdweeb5065Ай бұрын
I feel called out. A good ZvZ that gets up over 24 mutas each is magical.
@jakovmatosic4890Ай бұрын
Hive tech zvz is insane
@user-bk8cr6cb9hАй бұрын
@@jakovmatosic4890ya does anyone remember that game maybe a year ago? Devourers and stuff. I think it was both arty and tasteless casting it.
@DirkyDiggzАй бұрын
Way better than TvT
@Cernunn0s90Ай бұрын
How often does that really happen though?
@phoenixlichАй бұрын
Even most zvz is fun sized
@QuimShtankАй бұрын
I made it all the way through. I watch every video to completion regardless of whether its a mirror match or not
@kerviuskuroshiba5120Ай бұрын
That Armory cancel is bonkers to a regular viewer like me. To have so much experience and skill to plan ahead and optimize any situation you see in a match is mind blowing. GGs! HF everyone TY RT!
@bendangeruss501Ай бұрын
Love the videos and i support your patreon. Thanks for all you do to keep the game going.
@dimayurchenko4859Ай бұрын
Thank you for the upload! TvT! My lunch is blessed with StarCraft!
@alexfriedman2152Ай бұрын
PvP is best mirror! Once you get passed the Rock paper scissors part of the game it's quite fun. I love when it's reaver vs reaver and then mass Storm drops and reaver drops in the late game... it's so fun.
@PopcornColonelxАй бұрын
Absolutely watched the whole thing. Loving all the content lately!
@R5123Ай бұрын
This was a good Raynor vs. Tychus or Admiral Duke game, based on whichever campaign you prefer
@Timic83tcАй бұрын
I will still be listening to Terran theme in 2050 and not sick of it.
@worldermusic5214Ай бұрын
Since you asked so genuinely RT... while I like playing a mirror matchup, unless I see a PvP or ZvZ with a long video length, I am usually more excited for non-mirror matchups. With TvT it's not even the length I mind but I tend to feel the mid-games end up looking very similar often, though I definitely lack nuance as a spectator watching TvTs. But anyone who skips whenever they see a TvT would be loathe to miss this one. Very cool and different game. All the Matchups deserve some time to shine in Brood War!
@Mishrak109Ай бұрын
TvT is the best mirror for sure. I feel like at the top pro level they always decide the games before it gets into siege line vs siege line. They always seem to hit some decisive timing in the mid game rather than let it run late and end up being mass BCs
@luke211286Ай бұрын
Mass vulture vs mass vulture looks silly indeed. 😂
@JaysonCrisptonАй бұрын
Man that was a really crazy mirror match. Would love to see more!
@fifoffjfufsАй бұрын
i enjoy the mirror matches. i'm also a daily watcher so it's part of my routine to watch every new upload.
@NIN2277Ай бұрын
The ASL where RoyaL won really won me over - both to him and to the match-up. He was coming out with such crazy optimised builds and strats that it felt like he was at times reinventing both TvT and TvZ, at least in terms of what we ordinarily see at ASL level. It was so fresh and cool. I've been a bit bummed the last couple of seasons though; it's as if the other pros adjusted to his hyper optimisation by either playing really safe early on or rushing, and that's neutered the main strengths of his builds (which are designed to destroy whatever's meta). He's a bit like a Terran Mini in that respect; he can be brought down by the simplest of builds because he hyper optimises every single time, even against players he could totally outclass in a normal game.
@CouveTJАй бұрын
Man. Flash almost did it. Crazy.
@evelynnlefay8058Ай бұрын
Made it all the way through. Great game 'Tosis thanks for showing!
@michaelhowe2Ай бұрын
Look forward to these Flash Replays everyday! Favorite player of all time, well maybe second to some guy named Artosis. 😂
@D34D1574NDАй бұрын
I feel like mass speed vulture on both sides does kind of make tvt look like zvz. 😂
@ParkerH22Ай бұрын
Flash was so close. Great casting as always Arty.
@ZadrigoАй бұрын
Flash just needs to reinvent his TvT, reenter new meta in TvP, and get in line with his inner SK Terran for TvZ. And thats just to qualify for ASL.
@AutumnflameGamingАй бұрын
I'd like terran to get alittle early game help. An extra scv at spawn or a gifted marine. Allowing terran some measure of protection from early worker harass.
@chloesmith4065Ай бұрын
@@AutumnflameGamingthis isn't age of empires lol
@theSatoАй бұрын
@@AutumnflameGaming Either one of those would have insane snowball effects and lead to terran actually being imba
@AlexanderKeithWhiteАй бұрын
@@AutumnflameGamingyeah maybe Terran should start with a comsat
@AlexanderKeithWhiteАй бұрын
And 1 dweb corsair
@emeraldpancakes8249Ай бұрын
That one ASL ZvZ where they've had ultras was definitely better than any TvT I've ever seen. But that's about it.
@alexandrshaverinАй бұрын
There should be 50% of tvt on the channel, definitely
@cnr6715Ай бұрын
Amazing game, TvTs are always enjoyable, esp with players of this caliber. Thanks Arty :)
@jordan8537Ай бұрын
I love TvT but sorry Arty, the sound of dragoons dying fills my soul with joy, TvP is the goat
@AntonyWestАй бұрын
More like Flashcasts, and I like it
@pierQRzt180Ай бұрын
Royal: "your opening theory is outdated, I will go in the middlegame stronger as you" Flash: "but my endgames are still awesome" Royal: "yes, but the opening advantage saved me, I had a passed pawn".
@RodrigoMeraАй бұрын
He always kills a lot of units and sometimes even bases at the end of the match.
@nathanspeidel9195Ай бұрын
Of course we made it all the way through! TvTs are awesome as long as Flash is involved. 😝 And ZvZs are AWESOME TOO!!
@viTaDBaDАй бұрын
Looks like its going to be quite some time before Flash gets TvT and TvP under control again. Or if hes just doing ladder builds as you've suggested to try and figure out random stuff..
@bOstik210Ай бұрын
Really cool game. Especially for. TVT. Wanted Flash to win as an underdog with creativity.
@hasuchobogosuАй бұрын
I really look forward to seeing if flash can surpass light again :)
@petargeorgiev1748Ай бұрын
I miss the "Emperor" Era 🥹🥹🥹
@krgrvnr1Ай бұрын
Finally, it is Flash 📸
@jnerdalАй бұрын
Correct me if im wrong, i remember Flash TvT was 70% back in the day.
@empowered2winАй бұрын
I'm surprised flash didnt make 1 dropship to harass scvs considering he had the ports and the vultures
@scottc9151Ай бұрын
I don’t mind mirror match ups!
@Ziegfried82Ай бұрын
Watched it all the way through, normally not that big on TvT.
@farming4gАй бұрын
Siege tank vs siege tank is pretty great 😂 utter destruction
@KarjakumpuАй бұрын
We want more.
@chongli297Ай бұрын
Made it all the way through! Love TvT!
@andranikmassih2834Ай бұрын
Love the Terran colours this game. UED vs Umoja!
@Cernunn0s90Ай бұрын
Great game! I don't mind some mirrors
@dannelarsson84Ай бұрын
It's Flash time!
@GeneralFatman27Ай бұрын
TvTs have gotten more interesting. I remember a lot of old ones just being walls of tanks staring at walls of tanks with WWI no man's land in the middle.
@pierQRzt180Ай бұрын
I love long games (where the resources and expansion play a strong role). But mostly is TvT that is long, the others are on average shorter so please more TvT.
@sikraSCАй бұрын
Two of my favorite Terrans😍
@UndefinedVibeАй бұрын
Insanely cool game. "TvT is boring" they say... TY for casting!
@Frenchkid3000Ай бұрын
Royal canceled the armory when he saw lack of 2nd gas. Had to go back to see, he was def making the armory before.
@iithunderii9800Ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of RoyaL's play, great cast
@twizt111Ай бұрын
i will watch every game that says flash in the title
@drewwalbeck6006Ай бұрын
I really thought Flash had that
@AsmongoldvsArtosisclipsАй бұрын
fLASH wishes one day to be called an asl champion ..by artosis
@rightwingofthenuthouse3232Ай бұрын
I know you probably asked for us to post if we watched it all the way through for engagement purposes, but I love watching this Flash content so yeah, I did and I loved watching the mirror. That was some big brain stuff.
@G82ftАй бұрын
5:51 the marines in bunker can't shoot if a building floats above it?? Never knew that...
@bahadirozer5044Ай бұрын
will flash ever win?
@dirty_chanterelleАй бұрын
yes
@FreyasSpiritАй бұрын
Definitely needs more mirror matchups. At the top level, TvT is the best matchup
@TeachKidsChessАй бұрын
The mirror match-ups are pretty confusing. But I love your work.
@kingdomIce32Ай бұрын
made it all the way through! :)
@WisecrackJaxАй бұрын
Hey, I like a ZvZ, but I’ll never complain about TvT though. It’s like trench warfare
@swan9506Ай бұрын
No mirrors would be wrong If we're taking bulk games where we don't have a tournament or something special like flashes return something like PvT:TvZ:ZvP:TvT:PvP:ZvZ 15:13:12:5:3:2 Seems like a reasonable ratio for a sample of 50 ladder games
@hatedcritic2585Ай бұрын
Love the cast boss.
@KonfluxGamesАй бұрын
TvT is my favourite matchup! Yay
@JewelYin24 күн бұрын
Yes I watched all the way through! Other mirrors are worse but TvT is great!
@ArasmusSOUАй бұрын
Good game to the end
@mattatuckmanfulАй бұрын
I wanna see a build that makes ghosts and nukes work, almost did against crazy zerg
@cpt.tryhard6554Ай бұрын
great match, luv that opener.
@matrix3509Ай бұрын
Thanks to RT for reminding me there are other matchups in BW besides TvP.
@JorgenVonSteinАй бұрын
I survived Ted v Ted
@carlosespinoperez5685Ай бұрын
Super high level definitely a roller coaster
@bobsagget406120 күн бұрын
Flash isn’t his favorite Terran. Instantly call bullshit lmao
@thomastanner8547Ай бұрын
Hell yea I made it all the way through. I'll watch the fuck out of a TvT especially with Flash playing. Real fans watch mirror matches
@ElyvilonАй бұрын
I'm not a fan of PvP but I have a soft spot for TvT for the positioning aspect and for ZvZ for the knife fight in a tollbooth feel.
@MatildaHinanawiАй бұрын
Watched it in full! That was a great TvT.
@buzzKillerCSSАй бұрын
Made it through!
@paxconsciente3352Ай бұрын
We need to see flash win today
@jackrogers5712Ай бұрын
Made it to the end
@HaveANiceDayDudeАй бұрын
Idk why people hate on mirror matches. It’s still interesting strategically
@canabitterАй бұрын
Royal is so strong. Thanks Arty
@WaywordVagabond143Ай бұрын
really good game!
@Shield_BatteryАй бұрын
Has Flash had enough of goliaths? It's the time for return of the wraith outside TvT, gotcha anti-muta, and jumping carriers. Tune in here, when pros realize it's BETTER to have a goon loaded into a shuttle with reaver than zlots. and that gols aren't better than wraiths until +2 weps or unless you're pushing into hardc contain with turrets. Also, gols DIE FASTER than a wraith because they can eat scarabs, trip over ever possible unit and building. Gols are less than 1 goon attack sturdier than wraith, without the mobility to avoid/flee like 3 wraiths can.
@tehvolkaАй бұрын
Wow Flash really made a game of such a bad position. Very impressive.
@JCMiniPaintingАй бұрын
I made it all the way through.
@DungeonMaster6Ай бұрын
I'm that weird guy that likes ZvZ mirror matchup the best... Any chance we can get a few of those? Feel like we can fit 4 matches in this length of vid
@Fanelan053Ай бұрын
That was cool
@axelreyes8608Ай бұрын
i loved this match and yeah i made it to the end 👀
@scytale6Ай бұрын
So who won? Royal?
@starlight54Ай бұрын
Anyways, oh and by the way, I'm Dan Biden
@ConeJellosАй бұрын
ZvZ isnt a matchup you take that back.
@34567kjhgfАй бұрын
keep em coming plz
@lashs5311Ай бұрын
Leaving a comment as I made it to the end
@TyreeklolАй бұрын
leaving comment as requested
@christofincognito4530Ай бұрын
00:05 says the guy that deleted his account because he had TvT 3 times in a row