Flat Earth and the equinox Re-uploaded

[@equinoxproject2284]

FE: But but but that's not the right FE model you are attacking a straw man you dishonest coward why don't you address the right FE model buddy!!! Jos: Well then what is the right FE model? FE: I don't know, but I know it's not a ball flying though space.

[@Katy_Jones]

And this is why most of them don't even try to explain observable reality. But NASAliesCGIFreemasonsFisheye is SO much more convincing. Apparently.

[@Wiring2.0]

Equinox=flat earth is dead (again)

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

Dream on, Globehead. JESUS will come back to reveal the truth!

[@Wiring2.0]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 OK, call me when it's happened.

[@FrenchCrow]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 Then He will confirm certainly the beauty of the GLOBE and universe his Dad created. You flattards are insulting your creator, and you're promoting lies. I hope you'll pay for that.

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 Failed predictions built upon failed prophecy is what Christianity is built on. Jesus said to his disciples... you aren't going to have time to spread the word to all the towns of Judaea before I return... tick tock tick tick times up.

[@masterthreeok]

Holly cow. I've never thought there're so many flat- headed dummies over the ocean. Chiz.

[@delirium6109]

Impressive list. It’s amazing how damaging a little bit of simple geometry can be to flat earth. They are allergic to it.

[@FosterZygote]

If they could comprehend 7th grade geometry, they wouldn't be flat earthers.

[@delirium6109]

FosterZygote True true.

[@mknewc]

Geometry is kryptonite to Flat Earthers.

[@fepeerreview3150]

When Jos Leys comes out with a new video everything stops until I've had a chance to watch it! Tomorrow is the Autumn Equinox! Hugh Jarsz is organizing people who want to contribute to a global observation. If you are able to film either sunrise, or sunset, with a compass in the frame, he'll be compiling people's observations. Check with him for the details. Weather permitting I'll be filming both sunrise and sunset tomorrow. Unfortunately it looks like it may be overcast.

[@josleys]

I gave "7 worlds" another chance to start an intelligent conversation, but he keeps wasting everybody's time with comments that just deny all known science. He is not banned, but I am deleting the over 200 comments thread that he started.

[@fromnorway643]

Maybe just as well. It was certainly not a "debate" in the normal meaning of that word! It was more like playing chess with a pigeon that knocks over the pieces before shitting on the board and declaring victory!

[@keyanmoradi5088]

I tried to reason with him, it just doesn’t work. I really tried. Nothing will convince these people that they’re wrong despite how wrong they are.

[@sendintheclowns7305]

Not one flerf will observe a sunrise or sunset this equinox to verify that this is true. Not one video will be posted nor will any comment be made concerning the equinox.

[@dogwalker666]

Indeed because they couldn't fudge the results like they usually do.

[@psalux18963]

@@dogwalker666 oh, well, I posted on "rockets push off air" a suggestion to make the observation and Nick (rockets ...), when I detailed the sun rising due east in Groenland and antarctic peninsula in the same moment, kept saying "you haven't told me yet why you think it would be a problem on the flat earth".

[@dogwalker666]

@@psalux18963 Oh dear they cannot even understand how wrong they are, Face palm time.

[@td_kdname5197]

If this concept is too hard for the Flatties to understand, they can answer this question: How does the satellite dish pointing for Directv and Dish Network work on a flat Earth? You have to be within a fraction of a degree to get a signal, ask the thousands of owners with a dish. If you use the angle difference between LA and Phoenix and a few trigonometry calculations it shows the satellites are 22,000 miles away in stationary orbit. It won't work on a flat Earth, they aren't balloons, and they aren't on a dome. Checkmate Flatties

[@josleys]

For satellites, look here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/npeon515aaqUi80

[@equinoxproject2284]

Exactly... another nail is solar panel optimization angles. On a flat earth of any configuration it would be chaos.

[@crowxe]

Flat earthers like to say "our beautiful flat earth" , I say our globe is elegant...and beautiful as well

[@dogwalker666]

Agreed flatopia is clunky non functional and an ugly mess.

[@pdxdragon7479]

*"I say our globe is elegant."* I suppose you could call it elegant, if you're one of those people who prefer explanations that are simple, obvious and make sense.

[@bruced.1472]

I did the math by hand over 35 years ago when writing some generalized solar angle programs. That a few people, a known distance apart, doing simple solar angle observations can prove that the sun is both a long ways off and the Earth must be a sphere is all you really need to destroy any ridiculous flat Earth nonsense. It's nice to see it visualized like this.

[@SamSalhi]

Another happy debunking

[@SamSalhi]

@@baraa2305 بالعكس حياك الله حبيبي

[@damiannavyiceman9154]

When plane flying really high 10 km above on evening close to the night on high point is still daylight. But when this plane is flying very low point about 500 meters its night. Just after sunset when dusk is visible and I'm staying on the ground there is still sunlight reflecting off the machine flying very high in a vertical line above me. How to explain this situation when Earth will be flat ? :)

[@josleys]

That cannot be explained!

[@sthurston2]

Day time varies from shortest in December to longest in June. Thus at some point in March and September it must be about 12 hours long. That date is called the Equinox. Travel the world and you will find there is no time in 24 hours where the Sun is not overhead somewhere. On the flat Earth this means the Sun MUST circle the flat Earth. 6 hours after "noon" at your location the Sun will always be 1 quarter of its circle away from your location. On the Equinox that is also the time the Sun sets as the day length is almost exactly 12 hours. West at your location points perpendicular to the North/South line where the Sun was at "noon". Thus on the flat Earth the Sun will be on the line parallel to your West direction drawn from the North pole. Thus it MUST be further North from your location than due West. The globe model says the Sun will set due West of your location on the Equinox. Yippee! A clear difference easily checked on your own with no special kit, and no maths needed at all!.

[@sthurston2]

@el profe vinagre Sorry for my Northern bias. Of course you are quite right that South of the Equator it is the reverse. So longest in December and shortest in June. The cross over point is the same so on the Equinox everybody gets the same which simplifies things so nicely.

[@charminganarchist]

The explanation is simple: Atmospheric lensing. The heat of the sun distorts the path of light in the air. Next question?

[@josleys]

LOL! An anarchist joker! We never had that sort before!

[@jormungandr9251]

So, so good!

[@CriticalThink]

Love your animations!

[@boterlettersukkel]

Nice list of flat earth trolls :)

[@MeFreeBee]

When I looked up Kampala on timeanddate.com for 22nd September I see the sun rises at 90° and sets 270° because Kampala in on the equator. However, if you plot the Sun's position on the Gleason map so beloved by flatties, you will see that it _should_ be rising at 45° and setting at 315° on a flat Earth.

[@appresley4071]

From today the daylight hours in Melbourne Australia will be longer than the night's darkness. The sun will now be rising southwards, till mid summer when the sun rises and sets 31° south towards Antarctica. Any flat earther is welcome to show me how on any flat earth model, this is possible. That the sun now rises and sets below Australia.

[@John.0z]

Blast it.... I was supposed to photograph the sunset. Oh well, maybe next year.

[@goldblackbrownwhite]

Great vid again! Merci Jos 👍

[@MaryAnnNytowl]

I've just found you, because of a comment on Mr. Sensible's newest video. These are excellent!

[@vincentb9827]

Bien joué ! Pile pour l'équinoxe .

[@vincentb9827]

Les grands esprits se rencontrent : kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGOueYFqpLuKasU

[@Siberia55rus]

Очень хорошо! Very nice!

[@flaviocosme6478]

Like 190. Brasil.

[@josleys]

????

[@leo1313]

Like n° 193 from Brazil.

[@fulvioprime2727]

Parabéns! Essa é a realidade!

[@stanleyjobson1567]

Both of the models represented look wrong to me. The globe model is not on its tilt. The flat earth model sun is the same size as the moon and viewed from the earth through the firmament. Could the observable dawn be simultaneous when the sunrise in Cape Town is one and a half hours before the Helsinki sunrise? During the March equinox.

[@josleys]

One and a half hour? 20 March next is the equinox. Sunrise in Helsinki : 6:21 Longitude :24.9 Sunrise in CapeTown :6:49 Longitude 18.4 Time difference : 28 minutes Longitude difference: 6.5 degrees or 6.5/15*60 or 26 minutes. So sunrises in both cities are within two minutes of each other. Rest assured Stanley that everything on the globe works just fine!

[@stanleyjobson1567]

@@josleys does the earths axial tilt and a longitudinal difference of 26 degrees effect the sunrise times?

[@josleys]

@@stanleyjobson1567 Axial tilt? No The longitudinal difference is 6.5 degrees ( in my first answer I first wrote latitude by mistake) and that accounts for 26 minutes.

[@stanleyjobson1567]

@@josleys thank you for the correction. The axial tilt of the earth is 23.5 degrees.

[@moonrules7365]

How are you determining azimuth and altitude?

[@josleys]

timeanddate.com

[@moonrules7365]

@@josleys Thank you. I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I'm referring to how you did it in the simulation - especially the altitude.

[@moonrules7365]

@@josleys I realize you do it with software and probably hard to explain. I just would like to be able to do similar videos of the things running around in my head and to render accurate azimuth and altitude directions.

[@ReinoGoo]

Could you kindly educate some flatties about the ecliptica and the geometry of the sun on the earth with some parallel circles, 15˚ apart? One set around the axis from the north pole to the south pole, the other around the axis between the zenith and the nadir of the sun. Add the ecliptica, the tropics and the polar circles. Then you could show them on a flat earth map, with the center where the largest circles cross, with the lighted half on one side and the dark half on the other side, and show what's happening when the sun goes around the ecliptica. The equator should be horizontal and the ecliptica change shape, to not confuse them. It would also show the map distorsion, when you switch between the plane and the globe. The circles on the globe are straight and parallel, with the sun at the edge (horizon, something else they do not understand).

[@josleys]

I could do that, but what makes you think any flattie would pay any attention, or if they do, would they even understand what I am showing?

[@ReinoGoo]

@@josleys But it would be a nice way to demonstrate the equinox and the length of day and night to all other, and it shows the distorsion in the map projection. And i think it explains it much better than all the other ways, if we can see the ecliptica move and the sun move on the ecliptica. The sun could also make an analemma (the time equation).

[@josleys]

@@ReinoGoo Have you seen some of my other vids? I'm thinking specifically of these: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4jUZHqff7llrbM kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHa8pJqGaaioiaM kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6PWkoNto6eKqpI

[@ReinoGoo]

@@josleys They are from the same place, with undistorted longitudes (only vertically straightened). My suggestion would explain the shape of the terminator, and show the angle up to the sun, with circles distorded by the flat earth projection. And it is a symmetric projection, with both tropics the same length. And the circles would move around the earth between south and north (the circle through the poles, around the center).

[@Gabidoschka]

Класс! Благодарю!

[@DickHolman]

"Class! Thank you!"

[@patrickl3140]

Year after years, still unclear for FEarthers... Thanks Jos for this reminder... :o)

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

It's clearly that Balltards are out of excuses...

[@josleys]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 What sort of excuses were you thinking of?

[@moonrules7365]

Amazing how many sites have banned you! They can't stand seeing their precious flat earth demolished by your very insightful videos! One thing tho - I was trying to write down the names of the cities but the title covers up the names when I pause the video.

[@josleys]

Thanks. The names of the cities are shown in the first 15 seconds at the top left of the screen.

[@moonrules7365]

@@josleys Yessir, tho when I tried to pause the video to write them down, the title would cover them. But, when the video isn't maxed, the title doesn't display when pause.

[@josleys]

@@moonrules7365 So you can write them down if you don't go fullscreen with the video, great!

[@moonrules7365]

@josleys Yessir! Also, I've been throwing this around in my head. The diameter of the globe earth is 7918 miles and if I remember correctly the FE diameter is 24000 miles. A solar eclipse lasts 7 mins or so on a globe so I'm thinking that it would last much longer on a FE, beyond reality. I was going to make a video on it, but with your talent I was wondering if you would consider doing one if you think my observation is sound.

[@moonrules7365]

@@josleys Hey Jos....I was just curious what you thought about my observation.

[@larryscott3982]

That never gets old

[@govshill4557]

Nice one, Jos. Do you reckon you could do a simple, but clean, version of this ibb.co/CWsHQSV to show the sunrise and sunset directions in Sydney Australia on mid-winter, the 21st of June? The angles would have to be like NNE and NNW, which is ludicrous.

[@MGoudsmits]

got a video about that

[@govshill4557]

@@MGoudsmits Do you?

[@MGoudsmits]

@@govshill4557 kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3TalYJuf9qhqZI&ab_channel=MGoudsmits%E9%87%91%E9%A9%AC%E6%A1%A5

[@govshill4557]

@@MGoudsmits Nice one.

[@misterocain]

Always love your graphics.

[@unclejeffthechad9459]

You must love fake things...

[@misterocain]

@@unclejeffthechad9459 No I hate the fake flat earth.

[@MrVideo525]

I see that "photosphotos" isn't on your ban list, the hit & run troll. lol

[@volcanoimagec.a.5881]

I hold the honor of having the most accurate flat earth map :)

[@volcanoimagec.a.5881]

Here it is Jos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3jFZoJ8n9CBaqM

[@josleys]

@@volcanoimagec.a.5881 Yep, already saw that. Great map!

[@InternetDarkLord]

You better watch out! There is now a square earth cosmology channel! I think he's serious.....but I'm not sure.

[@procyon6370]

Link

[@InternetDarkLord]

@@procyon6370 Try kzbin.info If that doesn't work search "Square Earth Cosmology." It sounds metaphysical.

[@SwaaallaGE]

Equinoxes are awesome

[@QNFee]

damn how many suns we have ?

[@josleys]

On flat Earth there is one sun for every location on FE, in other words, an infinite number!

[@CepheusMappy]

10^10 Suns!

[@lieke9460]

light refraction over different distances

[@josleys]

Nope! Nice try but no cigar!

[@MichiganTrikker]

@@josleys - and yet they object to a small amount of refraction allowing the skyline of chicago to be visible from New Buffalo in specific conditions only, but here they say that it must be a massive amount of refraction needed in a sideways direction :)

[@skepticdank1121]

You do amazing work

[@chimeraobscura256]

Well done....

[@gustavodicampos9209]

eu vim pelo sistematico

[@rafaelmaster6389]

music?

[@ateriana5116]

It's written at the end of the video.

[@radvlad1431]

My words here are too powerful so Jose Lahey has to delete my comments 😅😅😅

[@equinoxproject2284]

I can see your comment. Say what you gotta say.

[@MrVideo525]

Dude, the only power in your words, is when you damn near killed FTFE from excessive laughter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn_KlXqlibV1nac

[@radvlad1431]

@@MrVideo525 😅😅😅! That was a good time. I'll tell you though I found out later that image he showed me was of a laser shot through an aquarium filled with sugar water. Of course something's going to be wrong with that laser. Fe wins again! Lasers shot through normal air never been like that you weirdo.

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@radvlad1431 Put on the table the most accurate scale map of the flat earth now, or shut up. People have been traveling and navigating around this world for thousands of years, where is your map.

[@radvlad1431]

@@equinoxproject2284 buddy all maps are flat. People go from point a to point b , simple. you say people have navigated the Earth for thousands of years, have you ever navigated the Earth ? nope. You have no idea what you're talking about here.

[@rafaelmaster6389]

música???

[@garywybenga4188]

In Melbourne Australia the 21st is the time where the sun rises 90 and sets 270. Where I live it's on the 23rd. So you see it doesn't happen on the same day everywhere for everyone on the entire earth

[@scott_meyer]

And IMPOSSIBLE on FE any time of year.

[@jagheterbanan]

As expected by the globe model. If the Earth is flat how come on the equinox everyone on a given line of longitude will see the sun rise and set at the same time and in the same direction?

[@jaimevivesp]

Missing the elephant in the room, as always...

[@josleys]

Hi Gary, what an honor to have you here! I was hoping you were going to explain how the equinox works on your flat earth. Any chance of that? What do you think? More research needed, or what?

[@josleys]

That is a lie. Timeanddate tells us it is on September 22 in Melbourne. www.timeanddate.com/sun/australia/melbourne