Tech Burn Out Caused by Management

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[@JMKady76]

I had an old timer (40 years turning wrenches) that I was a lead for years ago teach me one of the most valuable lessons I've learned working on cars. Gave him a work order and told him they wanted it by the end of the day, he tells me "The only car that has to be done at 5 is mine, and it runs just fine"... And he was right. I never worked late again, I didn't harm myself to finish cars anymore... because my truck runs and it's ready at 5 to go home.

[@aaronsprojects9622]

Best thing I've read.

[@bobbyu8991]

Service writers with no automotive experience is also a problem they have no idea what they are asking you to do

[@thebridge5483]

I’m in that situation I have a dispatcher with no car experience who think everything is easy

[@UNEEK_LOGIK]

Mechanic’s Lives Matter!!..

[@smitty2jones]

That's me yo. I work 6-3, and that's a firm quitting time. I am out the door at 3. I eat lunch in the break room, but I won't even answer any questions while I'm on lunch. "Yeah, you're gonna have to wait about 43 more minutes man"

[@jakeeyes3]

Literally just put a weeks notice in because of this. Got hours thrown at me non stop, was insulted with my pay. Now I’m going back to a shop where I’m mainly gonna be doing oil changes and brakes. It’s a step backwards in my career path but at least I won’t constantly have 4 cars that I’m halfway done with because the management wants me to start another car before I finish the one I’m on.

[@r.a.p.k.models4160]

Bro same history here , from balise hyundai i start next week in enterprise.

[@dochubertfarnsworth]

This is my life 🤣

[@danielcash1924]

C c Cu c

[@tonybelisle423]

Dealing with the same shit last month got a hernia and on Friday had surgery to get it fixed now laid up till middle of October

[@basedeal]

Tony Belisle how you get a hernia?

[@jeffreycastillo170]

Wow. This JUST happened to me. I have had to take some time off, and im seriously questioning if this is what i want to keep doing. 12 years at a Ford dealer, and i am a Senior Master. I was absolutely worked like a dog, and of course had to deal with dealer politics. I had kept trying to do everything to get on their good side and get better work, but that never worked. I had had ZERO comebacks in years, i did the trans work that nobody wamted to do, i did the heavy line engine work nobody wanted to do, stayed late, and 2 months ago i had to leave because my health is much more important. I am only 29, and its not the first time i burn out.

[@wmcwmc8623]

Find a family owned independent shop to work at, trust me, you WILL be much happier and treated better ;)

[@jeffreycastillo170]

@@wmcwmc8623 i will definitely consider it! Thanks!

[@spacecat7247]

Makes you an old man quick. I got out of mech. Work permanently bc of this. Now I work on things only when I want to. Much happier.

[@metalback26]

Also fleet shops are slower paced

[@thewanderingsole5774]

Former Ford Tech here. Got so sick of it that I joined the Navy. Never looked back and don’t miss it. Now I’m out and drive a desk. I don’t ache anymore and my knuckles aren’t busted.

[@WatchWesWork]

Just use the same trick I used with the laundry. I messed it up "accidentally" a few times. Now my wife doesn't trust me to even touch the washing machine. Problem solved!

[@FishFind3000]

Doesn’t mrs w also do that with her vehicle maintenance.

[@ozzstars_cars]

That's solid strategy. 😜

[@gregblau8082]

I’ve worked with guys that did that and it definitely works.

[@Trex6767]

We have a guy that on our team. Got to the point we gave him almost nothing. Then he started bitching when he’d sit around cuz there was no cp work and only recalls. We let him do a fuel pump recall and of course it left spilling gas everywhere. Back to sitting around and he’s livid

[@mikemuzzell5167]

Wes I also live by the code. Lol.

[@bigskinny42]

My last job ruined my life, no weekends, no breaks. It caused a lot of anger and disloyalty to management and people dropped like flies. It was this burnout that made me decide to go back to school to get ASE certified. To do something I want to do and hopefully enjoy it. Eventually I plan on opening a shop and upon hiring I will show people this video so that they understand our shop is only as good as the people in it. I could relate so well and I've never been in the automotive industry. Just another thing to put in my notebook for my shop. Thanks for this.

[@mk718bx5]

you dropped this 👑

[@StrongerThanBigfoot]

You have your own shop yet?

[@richardb775]

Same for marine mechanics. Go 100 mph during the week, wiped out over the weekend and cannot enjoy hobbies. Thank you FRM for this video.

[@hackerman2k]

My dad works for a Caterpillar dealer as a marine technician. He has been burned out for years. Work 12 hrs a day, sometimes overnight call outs, working 12 hrs a day on the weekend, etc. Money is great but he hates it.

[@etchosts8162]

They think of technicians as expendable assets.

[@asmautollc]

Short sighted management / shareholders look at employees as liabilities. Expendable asset is a polite way to say liability.

[@vincescalise4821]

Corporate greed Pretty much ruined the American worker more often than not you can make a decent living, if you’re willing to sell your heart and soul to do it

[@thebridge5483]

@@vincescalise4821 true. But that also mean you have to be smart with your money too have plans and goals.. I’m working like a dog now but that’s because I plan on opening my own business in a few years so I need to make money I don’t mind workin hard cause it’s for a short time

[@Phoun615]

When they rush me, I just go slower. Lmao they dont rush me no more and i just work at my own pace. Cant enjoy the money you make if you too tired at the end of the day.

[@djosbun]

Mike, you are spot on. The younger-aged people need to heed the advice of us 'older' professionals. Taking a full lunch to step away from the office/garage/factory gives that mid-day reset. When my dad was being killed by cancer (smoking) I used to visit a nice lake near my workplace. I'd sit on a bench and feed the ducks with the loaf of bread is bring with me. I needed that brain shift, even if just for an hour. I miss that lake.

[@tunedownforwhat1639]

Advice taken

[@goldpop5001]

Great advice! As long as the guys don't go to sleep and forget to come back...........

[@straight4.646]

21 and never had a problem saying yes to whatever was needed until recently I’m glad I saw this thanks mike

[@mrmurdx8956]

After working 40 plus hours its amazing how your days or day off dont feel like your off and goes by faster than your work day.

[@Dansyoung]

Exactly what happened at my last job. Push push push, suddenly I hit a point where I started making some mistakes (don’t know about you, sometimes I’m wrong - yes I know crazy but it’s true).... Then they reminded me of it constantly, then proceeded to treat me like crap And make me question my own abilities. Guess what? I realized my worth, moved along, I am in a better environment where I’m valued. Real kicker is they weren’t even able to replace me (hard to find employees trained up in a small town) Oh well, play dumb games win dumb prizes.

[@mt1885]

*Management* makes or breaks any business - as they Micro-Manage (running off employees) - then hire a bunch of kiss ups who will be their enforcers (KGB) to report back (good ole boy system).

[@Troph2]

I have told many bosses 'come down here and show me how it's done then.' They all just walk away grumbling under their breath and nothing comes of it. Im a welder btw.

[@vincescalise4821]

I did the same, with the same result as you LOL I was a ceiling drywaller

[@zrafferty]

Give them 6011 overhead always funny with new guys

[@leoashrae4199]

We spell management goals "G-R-E-E-D".

[@chrism5859]

Sometimes it’s better to limit your hours, keep putting money away as best you can and remain debt free. As a guy who used to work 70ish hours a week (minimum) plus commute 10+ hours and almost lost my family, I’m here to tell you being debt free and having money put away relieves some of the stress you feel and it gives you choices. Best thing I’ve done in years was take a job with slightly lower pay, no fancy title but I get time off and time to spend with my family, and within a couple of years I was right back at my old pay (and well beyond that now). Plus my commute is 5 minutes each way. I’m in a diffent industry but the concepts of work/life balance are universal. I believe God meant for us to work and strive for excellence but that doesn’t mean you’re available to your employer beyond what is reasonable. Fair employers who reward you for high quality work are out there, sometimes you have to hunt diligently for them. You have to be worth it for them to take a chance on you too.

[@StrongerThanBigfoot]

Well Said man

[@jeffcuevas5918]

You have to work hard to make money to buy more tools so you can work hard.

[@dizzfoo6718]

Story of my life 🙃

[@MooresRacingandOff-Roading]

Or only buy tools you need it you need a tool to use it only 1-3 times a year and only saves you 10-15 minutes. Why would you buy it? Cause you don’t think it adds up till you pay for 2k-3k for tools you only use 1-3 times a year. At the end of the year you’ve spent 2k-3k to save you 15-45 min is that smart? Now you may need a tool everyday that I will only use 1 time a year.

[@jmgile92]

Watching this on my lunch I wasn't even hungry I just had to get out of the shop . Very well put .

[@MH-wo4be]

Excellent video. I have a saying I developed from years in this business. "Those that DO are ALWAYS asked to do more, those that DON'T are NEVER asked to do their fair share. I worked at a shop with 12-16 techs and management told me many times that 3 of us do 80% of the work/hours. The 3 of us were always asked to do more. The others were never held to our standards.

[@ryanhell6028]

Bro this is my life lol

[@jackazz691]

I feel you man. The more I do, the more I’m expected to pick up the slack of the slower guys. Fuckin BS

[@I_Died_2_Weeks_Ago]

Was the same way in the Navy when I was an Aviation Electrician working on C-130s. We called them 💩 bags. 😂

[@RobertCiampa9112]

Yup living it right now. Ruined my weekend

[@chesterross7513]

This. This video right here. The last dealership (forestry) I was at, the service manager and branch manager were horrid about promising work to customers, and then, when more issues were found (nature of the beast with older heavy equip), we'd get the whip cracked to get all of it done within the same time window that was promised for the original repairs. Needless to say, I've changed job fields, and now that epiq box is sitting in MY shop.

[@ModernWelfare3]

Having a hard time with this in the shop right now myself. Really needed to hear this. Keep up the good work!

[@jeffmaggard3694]

Had to get out of the business for being mostly mentally exhausted. The mental stress was way too overwhelming

[@kristercarlson2635]

I left the dealership almost 15 years ago because of this. I was a GM Master certified, ASE Master tech working flat rate on diesel, medium duty trucks rebuilding Eaton and Allison transmissions. It was heavy work and the warranty pay sucked. No dealer in my area would pay a truck tech an hourly rate, and I didn’t want to work for an independent. I now work in development of aerospace fuel systems for military aircraft and helicopters. A MUCH slower pace for much more pay.

[@kruno45]

I agree, the hardest worker always gets screwed. This is the most ungrateful trade out there. Would not recommend it unless you start your own business or you know your going to a good shop. Keep up the good work, love your videos.

[@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender]

Its because of all these "consulting firms" (former kwik kar managers) tell shop owners how to increase profits. Ruining the industry

[@1337penguinman]

Here's a little secret. Management has no problem with comebacks, unless it's costing them money. The way they see it, do 50 cars and have 2-3 come back, vs do 30 cars and have 0 comebacks. In the short term the money is better for them with the first option. Never mind that those 2-3 customers are going to look for other places to do business, and could potentially get hurt when something fails. They don't care. This is really prevalent at chain shops where the upper management has several levels of separation between themselves and the day to day. And when the shop starts losing money in the long term because of lost customers and tech burnout, they blame either the foreman or the techs themselves. It's never their fault.

[@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender]

@@1337penguinman unless the comeback keeps you from getting to the incoming work

[@wyattoneable]

It's nuts to ask for so many hours from techs. As as customer I wouldn't any work on my car to be rushed or a tech to be tired and pissed off while working on my car. It's possible that short cuts would become too common place.

[@matthewslauenwhite7277]

I work in the Corporate world. My job title is some sort of management. We operate fleets in the oil and gas industry and I always try to fill in where needed and currently we have been needing help in the shop so that's where I have been positioning myself, but I get up at 0200 every morning to get to the shop to get everything ready so at 0700 when the phone starts ringing I'm behind the desk dealing with all that also trying to be as hands on in the shop when the phone stops. 0230 to 1800 everyday is really getting old. Many days I feel like just moving my stuff home and just going back truck driving

[@3PumpChumper]

I was a motor sports technician and I experienced this. The owner was a hyper competitive former racer and would set unrealistic standards. When the shop guys sacrificed and made it happen, that level of work became the new standard level of performance and the bar would be further raised. What I learned was to speak up because, while unreasonable as his workload was, a simple conversation or two (or 5) would have gone a long way to slowing his roll. Live and learn. I now do something completely not motor sports related and I now work to live.

[@BubbaAyers1969]

Been a tech for 35yrs I got 6 techs with me only 1-3yrs experience. there burn out now, I try to tell them to slow down

[@doalex2085]

Wow 😳 some one gets it ! My name is Doug, and I’m a ironworker talk about go, go , go , physical, physical , physical!!! Over 30 years rod buster, wrist surgery , nee surgery , stomach surgery, hip surgery , broken leg , now back surgery, 23 of December , 2020 can’t wait to go back to work next year !!! GoGoGo! Keep going. Thanks for your videos!

[@melias67]

Wow just the video I needed. I’m a 4th year apprentice and the pressure put on me is unreasonable. I questioned last week if I really wanted to keep working on cars? The answer? Of course I do! The problem is, you can only push someone else far before they break.

[@ninjaxjets7821]

“I can’t maintain that level of productivity and maintain my level of quality. I just can’t” love it I don’t do what you guys do (I build handicap vans) but I’ve said this exact thing to owner/management... they don’t like it but they know they need us

[@das11270110]

Best decision I made was to stop being auto tech. Yeah can make good money but will bust your butt. It gets old after 15 years. Now work factory job make same, but don't deal with flat rate and all the drama. Stress level is down 100%. I don't know what the answer is but auto repair industry needs to change.

[@rustyjeep2469]

das11270110 What’s your new job specifically? Same pay and less stress is a win-win!

[@mikestoolbox4347]

I work in collision repair and it’s like that on our side too, auto techs need to be unionized and tell big business to pay more or suck it !

[@tracydiller9378]

You could not have said it any better Mike. I worked many years in the Automotive Manufacturing is just as bad with Micro Managing, it has gotten so bad that you become a number and not a name.And when times get slow and there is layoff they want the same level of production with fewer people.Its simple can't be done,it burns people out.Great video Mike keep them coming.

[@ASEmastermechanic]

Good video. I can tell you, I work on cars just for fun, but I am in child welfare for 25 years. I can relate. I am given a caseload of 75 families scattered over Illinois and I am expected to visit those families, handle emergencies, be on call 24 hours, go to court, have people swear at me, etc. I have a golden rule, don't tell me what to do if you cannot do it yourself. I am an old timer and I am unsure how much longer I can go, but at the end of the day, life is short. Life is not just about making money, I see people working 10 hours a day, coming in on Saturdays, but what is the point if you don't have time to enjoy the things you like. I also agree with the lunch breaks, my boss always tells me hey you can eat at your desk or they will want meetings/lunch at the same time. I too leave the hell out and come back at 1. Life is short and when your in your death bed, no one is going to say, dang I should had did more brake jobs or I should can handles more cases. Health, family, friends and the things you enjoy is what life is all about. Its funny how any job changes once you get paid. I remember Eric the Car Guy said, working on cars with some beer/buddies on weekends is a whole different things than showing up to the shop Monday morning and the customers are already sitting outside and you have a money hungry boss breathing down your neck. Same applies to truck drivers, and a gazillion other jobs.

[@RogueWrenching]

I worked for a company that had us doing inspections and we where told to find on average $1500 worth if work on every car. Like even on oil changes. Stupid inspection took 30 minutes. No matter how fast you where. You gotta pace yourself. Otherwise you'll get burnt out.

[@zues2013]

Rogue Wrenching I know exactly how you felt. Same shit gave us a laundry list to go through in the inspection needed pictures but of course wanted the change done in 10 mins.

[@RogueWrenching]

@@zues2013 did you work for the same shop I did? Haha but for real I get a courtesy inspection but the free inspection is a visual 5 minute look. Anything beyond that and you gotta charge for it

[@bobbyu8991]

Think I know the company I work for it

[@RogueWrenching]

@@bobbyu8991 it's a disease the shop owners are getting. Come to my channel for a different side of the Industry. Also I'm giving away free money. But seriously. To many shop owners are to focused on the numbers and not taking care of customers. If you do right by the customer the money takes care of itself.

[@goldenretriever6261]

I was a mechanic working 50+ hours a week 6 days a week no time or energy to do anything else. I got an office job I hate it but I have a life outside of work.

[@richardkenealy374]

ONE OF YOUR BEST VIDEOS YET!

[@MaddenMaster843]

One of the best videos you’ve made in a while and they are all really good. Every tech in the industry needs to see this

[@Waldo425]

I once told a manager “I have a fucking name dude. I’m a human being.” They were having us do 3-4 days straight of 13 hour days to compensate for the pandemic. We’d work 7am to 7pm. We basically had two teams that were not supposed to be in the shop at the same time (that didn’t happen.) I was working with two other guys and management just kept bringing in cars at a high volume. We almost all quit after we never got lunch or any form of break. I still work there but it’s a constant source of trauma and is a reminder that they don’t care about me as a human being. If they ever ask me to do that again I may quit on the spot regardless of if they change their mind.

[@ELDOUBLES]

Management needs to see this video hahaha they love working us to death while they watch and get paid prolly 5x more than the techs.

[@epicragegaming2016]

current boss yells all morning to work fast and he has lots of work. from 2-5 i scratch my ass cuz there is nothing to do except wonder why i was getting yelled at for doing my job properly. hoping to hear back this week from another job i interviewed for.

[@christiandiaz7422]

I never related so much to a video, more in this spot in my life I lost friends, family and many opportunities that I had so I can keep satisfying my managers at my shop. I think I can apply this tips on my life. Thank you Mr

[@wallyg.2409]

It wasn't preachy at all, FRM. It was spot on. We're not numbers or machine's, we're human beings and have a life outside of work.

[@rickslingerland58]

Amen bro! The only thing I would mention is to be aware of too much “comfort “ for us techs. Of course we have to do some hard work and hustle when needed, it’s a balancing act between give snd take for both sides of the desk. Give an inch ... communication before the boiling point is reached is the answer. Anyhoo, great talk/ rant. Thank you

[@Jonathanbarros90]

Exactly the reason why I left the dealership, worked me till I couldn't take it anymore

[@6.4DieselDoctor]

Same here. I was lead tech/supervisor at a major truck dealership and got burn out because of the workload and they refused to give raises. Put my notice in and they fired me on the spot!! Now I’m at a mom and pop diesel shop making more money and less headache!

[@ozzstars_cars]

It's time to switch to four work days every seven days. Four good 10 hour days make those 3 days off more enjoyable.

[@goldpop5001]

The only problem with this is that productivity drps off in the last couple of hours, more so the older one gets.

[@zrafferty]

I work 5 10hr days sometimes 6 . Landscape and im the company mechanic

[@1971anaconda]

We are lucky in Australia we are paid a wage not flat rate but we burn out to as management want 14 hours per person in a 7.6 hour day us older techs have learnt and push the younger ones to learn we don’t earn any more if we kill ourselfs so we don’t we do the best job we can but once knockoff comes if work isn’t finished we just go home, management soon learn don’t over book

[@LoganRock88]

Cap team 2 walamart is burn out central 2 hours to unload a 3,000 piece truck. I done that for 15 mouths and more than burned-out. Thanks for the advice Mike, that's gives me hope hustle,hustle hustle, brakes, brakes, brakes work to live, not live to work

[@mrbussestoolreviews4550]

Yup Same thing here. Owner has a set goal for used cars turn around that is not obtainable with the amount of cars we have to service. Several long time techs here are about to leave because of it. I'm shop lead here and every idea I've come up with to improve things has been shot down. So now I'm at the point where I just don't care about anything except making my hours and going home.

[@gregblau8082]

Mike your videos have had impeccable timing lately. Maybe because everyone’s having the same frustrations in “these uncertain times” I discovered taking my lunch every day to get away from things a long time ago when I worked construction.

[@David-vy2ty]

As a 30 Year Tech - I totally understand what you are saying as I am at that point.

[@ThePracticalMechanic]

Hey Mike, I would like you to make 9 videos a week and you normally only do 3 videos. I know most (including myself) only post 2-3 time a month but I want you to do MORE.🤣🤣jk. Thanks for the video Mike and the problem is real even at shop do half that production.

[@stephenross9282]

This was well put! I tell my boss the credo and other techs all the time when they ask why I don't like it want to work weekends after i have already put in 55+ hours mon-fri

[@outdoorsman4245]

I work at a dealership and the common mind set is you pay your dues on the oil rack and tire machine till they decide to let you off the oil rack or tire machine. I understand this but at same time I am not wanting to be a lifer on oil rack....

[@UndergroundMech]

I’m a HDEM that works underground. Work less then 5 months a year , and make over 110 k with zero overtime. Have a paid pension when I retire, also tools are supplied by the company.

[@ismarmeskovic]

Been there done that.Just advice for all young techs out there;slow down and do your job right first time and do it safely.Do not pay attention to the clock.Skills and speed will come over the time.If you feel abused or disrespect walk away.

[@LibertySpam]

I'm taking next week off because of burnout, has nothing to do with my management. I just need a reset. So damn excited as it's been since last January that I've had more than a long weekend. Always put yourself first at work.

[@BubbaAyers1969]

I used to work at Airport Ford in Atlanta the it came to be Nally off Stewart Ave,

[@coreystubblefield6332]

I learned that quality of life is definitely more important than making more money. Least dealerships after or 25 years experience, scored a job with my township in the fleet garage working on everything from cop cars to heavy equipment. Major pay cut, but what you say about life satisfaction carries sooooo much weight. Great video. Hard for techs to believe it until they have seen it tho.

[@kurtkennedy5370]

This is a huge issue. Thats why we are open 45 hours a week. By the time the guys take their hour lunch, they are here 40hours. we know to bust our butt for that 40 hour, we work to live, we dont live to work. Also, Words of affirmation...We are constantly telling our guys good job, thank you, etc. etc. etc. It goes a long way with people to hear that from the boss/owner. I know multiple techs that run in the circle you and I do that feel this way that message me weekly. I feel bad for them.

[@thomasmarquez6790]

Been there done that. Thats why I work for fleet now for a large electric company. Get paid good hourly wage plus over time. Every benefit you can think of with 2 weeks paid vacation. I work from a Ford Explorer to F150,250,350,450,550, and 750 bucket trucks. Work on machines too. From a mini excavator to one a story tall. We have state of the art diagnostic equipment. Ford IDS thats link to a dealership. We have access to Ford Oasis and able to reprogram to the latest update calibration. One thing the manager told us was take your time get it done right you get paid by the hour. I will never ever work in a customer based shop again. They don't pay enough for what we do. Always in a hurry they need there car. They can keep that crap. Any new guys out there that are good at what they do look into fleet!

[@TonicofSonic]

I once carried a window blind company on my back for just over 7 years. I worked every weekend, and every holiday (that customers let me into their home). Between me and a couple other guys we brought the half dozen employee company from the basement of a home to being reconized as the top rated window blind retailer in the country. The company sold and the new owners were handed a very burned out me. I was fired shortly after the company transferred hands for a pay disagreement. I learned alot but it cost me the best job I have had the pleasure of working yet. I still think the separation would could been avoided if I had not overworked myself.

[@Troy_Built]

I always try to make sure I actually leave for lunch. The time to unwind is something I really miss when I can't.

[@rustyjeep2469]

Troy Built When I was a tech I’d almost always take my full hour lunch even though the production manager and other guys would get resentful because they only took a half. Sorry but if I’m told I’m allowed an hour I’m taking an hour. Lunch is my time to decompress and take my mind off work... IMO it’s worth the extra half hour to come back refreshed. I could actually tell I’d be more focused and jobs would just go a lot smoother after a midday break.

[@GothRocker7]

Excellent video, I am a gearhead, love cars, always reading about cars and trucks, doing basic things to them, I am not a professional mechanic, but I treat the my local mechanic very well and the mechanics at the one dealership I go to, very well. Mechanics are so important to life and the economy, they keep us on the roads. Sometimes I drop off two trays of pizza for them, sometimes if around holidays get everyone a gift card. Flat rate master, I am what you call a "Tier one" customer. I work in the natural gas utilities and this video really hits home hard. I like money as well, but over the past three years working very late hours, not having a life, this June, I took a different shift and have cut out a lot of overtime. I don't regret it, I feel like after three hard years in a row of 14 to 16 hour days it was time for a break. Boss didn't like it, because I am really good, but for now it is working out. You have to get a balance or else you find yourself saying I have no life, why am I here on the planet. Great videos, I also like that Matco toolbox that is behind you in each video. very nice.

[@Angelzn6]

This happened to me. It got so bad my health got worse and almost caused my epilepsy to get worst. I had to take a month off work requested from my doctor. Came back and was be worked to the ground again. Put my two weeks in, took a week off. Started at another shop and I’m as happy as can be, the work is great, and I feel no stress

[@PhillyDee215]

Man your soooooo right, I definitely need to manage my time a lot better. These service writers will definitely take advantage if u allow them to🙄

[@ADDMEONPSN]

I’m bout to leave my job cause he won’t even let me eat lunch

[@PhillyDee215]

@@ADDMEONPSN wowwwwwww😱

[@PhillyDee215]

Where u work?

[@ADDMEONPSN]

Philly Dee Midas, everyonepurposely works slow because their old and smoke cigs all day. I constantly get called for oil changes. I’ve already did 2 this morning racking them in the air while the other mechanic get air induction cleaning and brake jobs and just bullshit all morning/day

[@MruGotP3NED1]

I'm already set to leave where I'm at currently because of this. Only been a c level tech for a little more than a year and I've done 3 short blocks and replaced many long blocks with no pay increase. I don't want to do all the heavy lifting work unless I'm going to get paid like it.

[@Nate_DoggGaming]

Well said F.R.M. awesome advice and wasn't preachy. All techs or anyone in this industry definitely need to have a balanced home life and work life. And know how much u can put out vs wht "they want or expect " from u as a technician. Your right ...come 5:00 pm for me. I punch out and don't look back or think about work once i leave the building. Leave work stuff at work.

[@ihavethedocuments2580]

Technicians are being treated poorly across the board in all trades. The main issue is greed on the part of business owners/investors and the customers themselves. Techs fail to realize their importance, or are persuaded to feel they are the ones who need the customer or business owner more than the afforementioned needs them. Which I can assure you is not true. I suppose there will always be someone behind you that will attempt to do your job and take being treated poorly. But the skill level will drop off sharply for the customer and business owners. That being said, we are literally on the brink of a societal collapse due to greed. History will always repeat itself.... It is axiomatic 🙈

[@daveyio87]

well said, I'm going to be meeting with an owner from another dealership that i've worked for in the past (they haven't been able to replacement since i left a few years back) I'm goint to tell them straight up i was getting burnt out. The jobs i was doing was all the jobs the other techs didn't want so i was killing myself to get them done and working extra to make the hours i did. like going in at 3 am on a saturday to rebuild engines. I would be much happier being salary, or along that aspect. Warrnty times play into that. And the fact I can't do 6 days a week at 10+ days. I love what I do but hate the aniexty i get at turning hours. usually at the end of the week i make them but all week long i feel like i can't breathe. Also with the managment i've had several weeks where i got dumped on with crap jobs, thursday comes along and i have 20 hours, then friday they hammer me with 30 hours to get done. Not fair. IF you need someon to do the crap jobs then they need to be salary. or for every crap job there better be a good one be hind it. Especially if there is another guy capable of doing the work but refuses it because he can make 100 hours a week doing gravy jobs. I've been do several jobs with the same result. Every one tells me the independant life is better but at this point i really question how long i want to do this career because it slowly not enjoyable from being burnt out and the stress at making the hours while i fix all the crap no one else can.

[@carlbyington5185]

Yup.... well said, I'm 59 years old, and have hard wrenched for 45 of them !! My body is Trashed !! So many things I want to do, but my body sais "Nope, not today buddy!"

[@meabob]

Your body talks to you, too? I now know I'm not that crazy!!

[@sdustingxp]

Wise advise. Seen so many guys burnout and fall into bad places, depression, Drugs, alcohol. I got close myself once, was just coming generally apathetic and it cost me. Ultimately for the better but it did cost me at the time. When I'm training a kid I relay it to them this way: It's like going to a casino to gamble, Have a number that you cash out on and be happy with that amount. Chase the highs and you'll get burned. If you can't make an acceptable paycheck in 8-10 hour days, somethings wrong. Hate to say it but even working at decent shops over 15 years, I can count on one hand how many times I've gotten a genuine thank you for going above and beyond. Give it your 100 for the time you're suppose to be there and clock out. If you're efficiency is close to 100% and they need you to stay longer or you're not making enough hours, the problem rests somewhere up front, scheduling, games, management,etc. Had one manager who, I swear liked to see how far he could push a guy just because, tell me he was like Santa and we were all just his little helpers. I left very shortly after lol.

[@jamespn]

The shop owners always say hurry up the customer is waiting. Then you get chewed out for comebacks. Some techs work 6 and 7 days a week wearing themselves out. Work 5 days a week take 2 days to recover and enjoy your family. Don’t spend more then your budget allows and stay away from debt, you’ll be much happier.

[@jhouzen2512]

Very true facts stated in this video. I work with people that have never laid a finger on a wrench and tell other techs "your doing it wrong". Taking time off is good in general but it's more important to do it for your family's sake.

[@johnlupucyjr.7675]

That is the best advice I have heard you're absolutely 110% correct I've been through it they're trying to milk the most out of the technicians and pay them the least people don't not realize it as far as I am concerned if I was in that situation I would place the management into my position and expect them to do the same and I want to see what their end results are and I can guarantee that they would not last long

[@cliveleslie7004]

Thank you this conversation is well needed across this industry my deal they keep pushing my next step is to leave then retire from turning wrenches burnout had enough I am tired thank you once again for bring light to this subject.

[@vincescalise4821]

No truer words were ever spoken, I was a ceiling drywaller in the mobile home industry for 30 years, the homes kept getting more and more difficult to build, Yet we were expected to Build so many in an eight hour day, one or two guys would always be pulled out of our group to help other groups, Then we would be stuck there working overtime, the last for five years there ,my whole attitude on life was just awful ,and I was no fun to live with either, that really took a toll on my body, best thing I ever did was get the hell out of there

[@kevinlamarr1424]

You’re right about this not just being a repair industry issue. I’m a truck driver and I’m leaving my job because of the reckless way the company manages drivers. Here’s an example, I had a blowout on the trailer, outside rear driver side. They told me that since it was on the outside that I should drive the 50 miles to the truck stop to save them the road service cost. No I didn’t do it. I’m 60 I don’t do stupid.

[@haroldsegnitz7437]

I had actually had a supervisor tell us that practically we was expendable assets and he was going to use us as such. This came about when the technicians asked management to stop having us go to work from 10am to 11PM then the following day return at 5 am and get off at 6PM and so forth. They would only give us one day off and there was times there was a 8 day span to work to get a day off. In short the supervisor stated he felt simply we didn't want to work. (Then management wonder why there was no employee retention). This was a municipal government position to maintain transit buses. Even the drivers was scheduled in the likewise manner. This was a scary situation for me.

[@z33tanner]

Wow i thought i was the only one who needs that mental recovery at lunch. I live close enough to head back to my house for lunches too. I find myself as a new heavy line tech pushing myself too hard when i get in the groove and do overtime, if i was more efficient i can make that money without working OT. Great video FRM.

[@sMFq11]

I used to love working on cars but I’ve been burnt out for so many years now that I hate it, I am having a hard time getting the courage to give my notice at a shop I’ve been at for 7 years 6 of which I have been there solo just me and boss, he’s a friend of mine and I’ve known hime a while before I started working for him but I’m ready to move on and spend more time with my two kids and wife….. how should I give him my notice??? This is stressing me out

[@I_Died_2_Weeks_Ago]

"Hey bud, I'd like to talk to you. It's been a wonderful ride working here for you, but due to x, y & z, I've decided to move on to something else..." Then, hand him a gracious resignation letter since he's a friend.

[@orchestracelloplayer]

Yup, I’m 25 and this is the first time I worked 50 hours in a couple years now. It’s when you do that every week for months that you just get sick of the shit. Did that for over 3 years and the money was good! But I was working 6 days a week. Now I get 3 days off a week, an hour lunch, lots of pto so happy and have time to golf on the weekends now

[@johngibson3594]

We call it the pain factor mental and physical if they get to high you will change your lifestyle if not you will be miserable

[@josephbink1340]

I literally just came off a week of “vacation” at home to recharge. I work in a fleet transportation shop. Been here 2.5 years now and I’ve been go to go all since day one. Mainly because I was the only technician here in the shop until about 8 months ago. My issues aren’t management entirely (if they’d write techs up and actually follow thru higher up it may change), my issues are the other techs I work with. We are only expected to bill 6 hours of our 8 hour day....which mother of god if you got bill 6 hours in 8 we have a problem. Their lack of initiative and work ethic is what drains me, because as the lead tech it falls back on me. They refuse to shift gears and move their asses, so when busses aren’t ready is when I run around like a banshee.

[@christopheryoung826]

If there is work and approval its not hard to do 8 of 8 on deisel.

[@josephbink1340]

Christopher Young there is plenty of work. We have routine maintenance daily. No reason they can’t do 8/8

[@fordtechchris]

Flat Rate is such a joke. If we were paid enough we wouldn't have to run 100%+ efficiency to earn the money we want. And then the manager has the nerve to call you out for leaving 13 minutes "early," after flagging 15 hours....

[@frugalprepper]

One thing is that goals need to be achievable, or after a while you begin to feel like it's hopeless and your never going ot be able to do good enough. Second as a manager it is a production vs production capacity issue. Any one can run people and equipment super hard for a little while to get more production out of them, but eventually you will sacrifice future production capacity. It is important to get things from people in a way that allows you to continue to get it in the future. This is a common mistake that manager make with their most important asset, their people. Eventually is you treat people like the don't make a difference long enough, they will stop making a difference.

[@gregblau8082]

I had one of those fridays. I had a job I wasn’t looking forward to from Thursday get approved then we had a bunch of appointments that weren’t on the schedule so it got pushed to today and I was dreading it all weekend.

[@donaldpainter956]

Management sees the dollar signs that's all I've been finishing up on a late car 30 minutes after closing time and the service writer has sold another diag for me just to boost that days sales they don't care about the workers just the money

[@derekdlick2516]

I’ve been here n the Friday deal. I was expected to do Diag and help rooks all week. Then Friday they would scramble to get me to 40. I appreciate the gravy on Friday. But, lying in bed all weekend wondering if I tightened a bolt during gravy Friday made me quit.

[@cnichols998]

Needed this. Left my last shop because of this. Work at a state facility now and love it.

[@Kavurcen]

I'm an engineer by training, worked in a machining and light industrial outfit as well as medical devices, same shit even behind a desk. Even had the same shit going at a corporate bike shop I wrenched at for a while. Common factor is culture and greed. Ask me why I took a 75% pay cut to work for myself. Eventually found a part rime permanent position with a union, sets great boundaries and gives me security even if the hourly as a professional with a degree pays less than I made as an engineering intern. Couldn't be happier.

[@ThePandasian34]

4:54 i’m that 22 years old i’m here to say HELL THE FUCK NOW I CAN’T. I’ve done this shit professionally since 19 and done this shit through since middle school and i’m already up there with doing home heavy line shit. pistons on a cruze 1.5L or a 2AZ-FE cylinder head bolt repair, BMW N54 turbo replacement, etc. I’m here to tell the other 22 year olds don’t be on your high horse, i’m already burnt out i hate working on my own cars. I just want to sit and play video games but i can’t because i so even touch my bed i’m knocked out. I can’t imagine how some of the old timers are still doing this. Past 15 years

[@tonybelisle423]

I am the head mechanic in my shop and last month all the work coming in am the only one that can do it and I was getting overwhelmed and low and behold got a hernia so this last Friday had to get surgery done to fix it now I can’t get back to work till middle of October am 42 years old and been a mechanic since I been 18 I will not allow them to kick my ass again I love money just like the next guy but dam look at me am laid up I got six bays in my shopand at some points of the day I had a car in every bay and I work with 5other mechanics l was like what am I doing learned my lesson the hard way