@@mervinprone No, not even close. The RAV4/Venza takes a 12 mpg hit due to the high profile, poor aerodynamics, and larger tires. Plus they have a short rear floor and a sloped rear window. A "Camry" wagon, like the Camry wagons of the 80's that were based completely on the existing Camry body with a long roof line properly squared off would have a more useful cargo area with a longer floor and only lose a few mpg's compared to the sedan.
@mervinproneАй бұрын
@@escheidl ok then Sienna
@escheidlАй бұрын
@@mervinprone LOL! 😂👌
@AeroDrАй бұрын
Camry's wagon sibling is now Kluger
@malcolmwilton8107Ай бұрын
I don't like correcting journalist's but, while the camry does have two electric motors at the front, only one of them does the driving. The other starts the petrol engine and is a generator. The electric drive motor will also charge the battery but only on regenerative braking cycle. Hope this helps.
@tepidtuna7450Ай бұрын
Thanks, I was wondering why a FWD engine also needs two electric motors in the front. Thought it would have been wiser to put the electric motors on the back wheels, but your statement made sense now.
@aidan1585Ай бұрын
@@tepidtuna7450 yes, the dual electric motors are what the transmission is. that's what sets it apart from an actual CVT.
@rubyred8845Ай бұрын
It looks better than the old models. I like the bronze colour.
@Andronicus2007Ай бұрын
I have a non hybrid 2015 Camry, easily the best car that I've ever owned. It drives well, is comfortable, reliable and uses hardly any more fuel than a Corolla or a Yaris! I see the styling as an evolution of the old styling, which I think is a good thing. In my opinion the 2018 model is the best looking one so far
@DM-ol9neАй бұрын
It’s funny, now I’m about to retire I’m liking it. I’ll make sure to put my bowls hats behind the back window
@WorksOnMyComputerАй бұрын
You're not alone. If this came in a wagon, I would be taking a serious look at one.
@harrycopeland8322Ай бұрын
I own a 2021 SL non-hybrid with THE last V6 engine to come out of Japan. I’ve had two 4 cylinder Camrys, a 2011 Aurion V6, and now this car. What an amazing vehicle - I drive it in economy mode and I would find it hard to find anything that tops it for performance, comfort, reliability AND fuel economy. With good throttle control it achieves 6.3 Ltrs/100km on the highway and 7.8 in suburbia. Excellent for a V6. I am provided with four cylinder hybrids as a loan car each time I have my car serviced - it’s chalk and cheese. I would find it extremely difficult to go back to a four cylinder - even my wife shudders at that option. I have kept all these cars for ten years before upgrading and fortunately they are long lasting and provide reliable motoring. With no more V6 options, I guess I will be seeing exactly how long this car will last. I my wife and I are in our seventies now so I guess this will be our last car. And what a car it is.
@RoboamboАй бұрын
I wish they would bring back that V6, it is such a great engine in the Camry and Kluger, so hard to find one in that 2020-2022 range.
@harrycopeland8322Ай бұрын
@@Roboambo 2021 was the last V6 in the Camry. As I said in my initial post, we got the very last from Japan. Just lucky I suppose. The USA had the V6 until either this year or last year I think.
@RoboamboАй бұрын
@@harrycopeland8322 I thought there may have been Klugers with the V6 in 2022 but they must have switched over earlier than I thought. Still very hard to find 2021 Klugers or camrys with V6s.
@paulsimpson8990Ай бұрын
Tom is the best journo on KZbin by far
@escheidlАй бұрын
It's sad when a beautiful, comfortable, well equipped car like this keeps getting a Uber/fleet car status. Makes "status driven" people feel embarrassed to own one. That's their problem though. This is an amazing car to own.
@Thisonegoestoeleven666Ай бұрын
Better get to spec savers….
@tepidtuna7450Ай бұрын
I hear you. I have pride of ownership and have had nice Euro cars in the past. I'm over the ridiculous pricing to buy and operate, not to mention their terrible reliability. A hybrid Toyota is definitely back on the cards right now. Maybe we'll have a 'nice' car for the weekend too.
@rickb314Ай бұрын
The only thing amazing about a Hybrid Camry is the ownership and running costs. There's really nothing amazing about the vehicle itself. But that pretty much describes Toyota vehicles across the range - not class-leading in any particular areas but 'good' across the board with plenty of dealer support and reasonable servicing and parts availability. For a lot of buyers, that's all they want I suppose...
@JB-ie9hjАй бұрын
I owned new Holden’s all my life in 2019 l bought a new V6 SL Camry .I am not and never will be embarrassed to own it ,what I am embarrassed about is that I kept buying Holden’s i should have bought a Toyota sooner first car i have ever owned that has not had to go back to the dealer with a problem.A beautifully made car from Japan perfect .
@Sean-sz7zoАй бұрын
Damn thats nice. I go in 2020 ish camry ubers all the time and their build quality feels phenomenal.
@Nico-vt4ilАй бұрын
In sport mode on the highway the responsiveness from 100-120 is sensational!
@pointice3081Ай бұрын
I love to see a Car Review channel that actually points out the bad stuff
@sagarwani7990Ай бұрын
I am surprised you did not talk about the head-up display! It is a new feature for this year's camry.
@duanewalker892525 күн бұрын
I have a six year old Camry SL, it has head-up display.
@Blake-sh3nfАй бұрын
Hi Tom. A keen car guy, I always look forward to your reviews. I regard them very highly. I like your presentation style. Thanks for this instalment!
@BomberFletch31Ай бұрын
One of the issues with seat comfort in modern Toyotas that I've had is that I felt that the head restraints are angled too far forwards, and are not adjustable. It looks like they've now redesigned the front head restraints at least.
@adorolivar1340Ай бұрын
im driving camry hybrid SX 2023, got no complaint so far
@antoinenove6 күн бұрын
The front looks like a Ford Falcon 😮 might be enough to push my dad to buy this Camry, looks very nice!!!
@richieduck67Ай бұрын
Long time no see Mr Baker
@russellchristison8425Ай бұрын
I currently use a VW Passat Business Sedan in combination of private and driving for regular customers, I travel about 45,000 kilometres a year and the SL Camry interests me greatly, I did drive the Lexus ES300h which was very nice to drive but was about $75,000 drive away. Most of my driving is on the M31 from the Southern Highlands to Sydney which means I don’t get the full value of the Hybrid system but I still think this Camry would be worth an extended test drive. Thanks for the review.
@kevingreen8581Ай бұрын
You are looking at the best colour (metallic red) in my opinion. In 2020 I bought a Camry in the UK and only had the choice of black, white, silver, rust brown or Galaxy Blue. I chose the blue but wanted a metallic red which they only sold in Ireland but not the UK. Strange Toyota. The Camry is a fantastic car and does all I want from a car, hugely spacious economical and very quiet and a very comfortable hybrid car.
@tonycoz2309Ай бұрын
Great initial review. Time to trade in the Aurion I think.
@rickb314Ай бұрын
If you're trading from a V6 Aurion you're gna be saving about $2k a year minimum of fuel straight up!
@huckietam6746Ай бұрын
The red looks nice. I hope they can make it a bit sportier like sportier suspension.
@anthonymindel5861Ай бұрын
I also love the Teal colour and would have bought one in a flash…I might now have to go for another metallic Red ,which looks superb in this Camry
@MathewBT81Ай бұрын
Now that's what I call a thorough review 👌🏆
@AWC475Ай бұрын
Awesome review mate 👍 Thanks for sharing. One question where are they made for the Australian market? Is it Japan?
@sohaibmohammed6498Ай бұрын
That’s what is mentioned when talking about the teal colour
@Richard-sl8weАй бұрын
Yes, for Australia the Camry is made in Japan; as is most of the other hybrids - such as RAV-4 and Corolla hybrid. The Hilux is manufactured in Thailand.
@wetcat833Ай бұрын
When will car manufacturers learn that not offering a standard motor version, alienates a large chunk of the market? I was interested until you said that it will be offered as a hybrid only. Kia Cerano GT stays on top of my list.
@JasonISFАй бұрын
Bought a brand new Camry hybrid SL in 2022. Was a decent comfortable car but was very boring to drive. Paid just over $49k for it ON the road. New price at 10k more is ridiculous for a Camry. Sold it for more than I paid for it about 1 year later (thanks Toyota waiting lists) and bought a 2010 Crown Hybrid. Much better car in every way apart from the fuel economy. Oh and invested the $25+k too.
@IsaacLovenАй бұрын
Smart man
@alexlarson2466Ай бұрын
I notice Camrys are common police cars in Australia and New Zealand, and they're typically livery and marked. In the US I notice they are rarely marked police cars although some departments use them as undercovers alot
@fizzyboy0828 күн бұрын
Cooled seats is so good on the Camry, now you don’t need to get a Lexus to get a Toyota powered sedan that is extremely comfortable in the summer
@Moshikokotashima19 күн бұрын
damn this car looks good, unlike most of the new models being released with 10x more design budgets. I'm sick and tired of driving large boats called SUVs and 4x4s on road.
@JJ-wi2uwАй бұрын
I can see that front area beneath the hood being a stone chip magnet and needing a plastic guard to be fitted.
@Exxodus74Ай бұрын
Go with the sl or the base, for private driving? It’s a big jump in price from ascent sport
@tedk-42Ай бұрын
2024 Camry drive away price of 60K. Not sure what's real anymore
@pastachannel1193Ай бұрын
Price gouging due to its popularity? Also what happened to 91 Ron fuel as the new spec is 95 Ron petrol? I was thinking of upgrading from my 2019 Camry but it doesn't make sense to pay 20k more.
@candlelarbra5212Ай бұрын
They're just asking to be eaten by Chinese vehicles
@dontdoxmebroАй бұрын
It’s inflation. Government just doesn’t care. A Camry in 1991 was actually more expensive after inflation is taken into account
@jeremybean-hodges6397Ай бұрын
@@pastachannel1193 you don’t have to pay 60, that’s top model
@zoltrix7779Ай бұрын
@@dontdoxmebro Perhaps, but considering better cars are available cheaper, that statistic is irrelevant.
@brandontr8946Ай бұрын
80-90% of the ES, i wonder what Lexus is doing to the upcoming ES
@huckietam6746Ай бұрын
Just speculate. 2.4 turbo with electric motor like the RX500 producing 360hp.
@emikominaАй бұрын
going more luxury
@pjb5594Ай бұрын
The Corolla Cross also has the new 5th generation hybrid. Don’t know why Toyota are saying this is the first model that has it in Australia.
@gregj7916Ай бұрын
I guess the resale on the Tesla may be questionable where the Camry should be fairly solid...
@paulsimpson8990Ай бұрын
Fire up excel and do the sums. Even if the Tesla is worth $0 in ten years time you will be $35k in front on fuel provided you can charge at home, like Tom said in the intro. And you get RWD and a bit more performance. It was line ball for me but I ended up with the m3.
@GoodtoseeyouIvanАй бұрын
@@paulsimpson8990in that case the better idea is to buy a used Tesla 🤨
@paulsimpson8990Ай бұрын
@@GoodtoseeyouIvan yep probably right. They didnt exist when I bought mine though!
@edwardshackell92029 күн бұрын
I had a look at the new 2025 Camry yesterday. The newer Camrys seem fantastic in all respects except for 2 things: Headroom is tight in the higher spec versions with the panoramic sunroof and the cars are now very low to the ground. Getting out of the car is a challenge if you are older or have a bad hip. Toyota obviously wants to appeal to a younger audience and be more sporty, but the cost is the loss of some comfort for older, long time Camry owners. I also wonder about the durability of the panoramic sunroof over the long term. The cost of repair may be considerable.
@jeremybean-hodges6397Ай бұрын
Reminds me of the old VS Commodore, in that they have clearly had to shoehorn old existing doors into what is otherwise a cohesive, new design.
@whatthe6532Ай бұрын
It’s called a cut and shut. Which used to involve style update by keeping main body of car but cutting off front or rear and replacing with upgrades.
@__PJ__Ай бұрын
You should have put 60-90 kilos in the boot if your "testing" with a passenger... that would have pushed it over the 5L mark. Also is the driver monitoring painful and doesn't recognise sunglasses like the new Trition ?
@John-p7i5gАй бұрын
I've driven a Toyota hybrid for the last 8 years. They are great for reliability, but I'll be getting the MG4 as my next car.
@whatthe6532Ай бұрын
Welcome to the club.
@boftyАй бұрын
Aren’t they garbage?
@John-p7i5gАй бұрын
@@bofty MG petrol are garbage
@whatthe6532Ай бұрын
@@boftyMG4 is a great car to drive. Top Gear gave it a 9/10. I only drive my Vw Golf on long trips now. Loved that car never think to drive it around town.
@its_ben_carterАй бұрын
Tom always hogs the exciting stuff 😅
@martinburns342Ай бұрын
I hired a Corolla hybrid earlier this year. It achieved 5 l /100km city and highway driving. I found it noisy to at highway speed, mainly road noise. My Subaru Outback XT is much quieter.
@NathanE808Ай бұрын
Just makes you wonder, what was Honda thinking with the DA price of the civic hybrid...they need to bring out a mid spec version asap.
@kelvincswАй бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Corolla Cross is already using the 5th generation hybrid system when it first debut in Australia back in 2023
@sjb2471Ай бұрын
Looking good, Tom
@sportsandvellogs7234Ай бұрын
Beautiful 😍
@djizzahАй бұрын
What an outstanding vehicle Toyota, bravo, and its made in Japan, well done!!
@IsaacLovenАй бұрын
Does the camry still use nickel metal batteries in Australia?
@Yotadude2025Ай бұрын
Interesting that the A25A-FXS in this Camry and the RAV4 here in the US is fine running on regular. I wonder why Toyota requires premium in Aus.
@mattd4616Ай бұрын
I've owned 3 Toyota hybrids and am currently driving the 21-22 Camry Hybrid and absolutely love it. However, I've seen the drive tests on the US version of the 24-25 Camry Hybrid and the US version is a far more exciting looking car than the tamed down Australian car. It's disappointing to say the least, why this is the case is beyond me?
@witsend00827 күн бұрын
Flawless with a CVT box ?
@charles6232Ай бұрын
Is the next Corolla going to look similar? I’m hoping it does.
@hashmi1195Ай бұрын
Looks really nice. Bit expensive tho. I may trade my CX5 for this for the efficiency
@RhetbabemagnetАй бұрын
What model grade cx5 do you have?
@hashmi1195Ай бұрын
@@Rhetbabemagnet the akera turbo petrol AWD 2022 model
@RhetbabemagnetАй бұрын
@@hashmi1195 mate thats a ripper of a car keep it. We just bought a cx9. Best suvs
@stuartmarshall7099Ай бұрын
Great update but that's not Camry prices. Ridiculous $
@solidviper2000Ай бұрын
Damn, who hurt you Camry-san
@Thisonegoestoeleven666Ай бұрын
The ugly stick had a good go by the looks. SL looks ok, but the lower variants, nup.
@solidviper2000Ай бұрын
@@Thisonegoestoeleven666 ☹️
@julianwhitta1114Ай бұрын
A pity we’re not getting the 16th gen Toyota Crown Crossover model here
@Helen-lr8jzАй бұрын
I like the shark!
@joseph603Ай бұрын
So frustrating that we don’t get coloured interiors in AU. I am so over black interiors.
@kieranmccann7823Ай бұрын
Any reason we don’t get the all wheel drive in aus ?
@venelinkeremedchiev9643Ай бұрын
We don't either in the EU...
@chevy5755Ай бұрын
Will you review the 2024 Honda Accord for Australia?
@Richard-sl8weАй бұрын
Hi Tom, I've read you have moved on from Chasing Cars. Is it possible to update us?
@timbo365Ай бұрын
Just about every Camry I’m driving behind seems to be doing about ten k below the speed limit.😊
@dickeekhofАй бұрын
Unfortunately not available in the Netherlands 😢
@Sean-sz7zoАй бұрын
This feels like a different style of filiming and i don't mean the content - the audio or something?
@AbhishekHari1234Ай бұрын
You mentioned the Lexus ES, what about the Lexus RX? Even though the RX is a SUV.
@kasio22BАй бұрын
We want that Crown's bronx color in the North American market~👆
@josephpereira1390Ай бұрын
This car is really good but wish we got v6 hybrid rwd like toyota crown
@martinburns342Ай бұрын
Pity we don't get the AWD version like the US
@Phong7080Ай бұрын
Compare hybrid Camry with ev you missed one important parameter. Resale value. People tend forget about that
@DanielMasmanianАй бұрын
And now you can more comfortably block the right lane 20km under the limit
@timfreeman2603Ай бұрын
Uber green announced this week they are ditching hybrid and going EV only.
@mustafanaqvi572929 күн бұрын
Great car much better than the junk Mazda is selling these days.
@ronlam3654Ай бұрын
Does the 2025 Camry only come in 16" or 18" rims, not 17"?
@anthonymindel5861Ай бұрын
The Ascent and Ascent Sport both come with 17 inch alloys
@1969cmp18 күн бұрын
Great car. Simple.
@samjapАй бұрын
Better than North American version.
@Nae395Ай бұрын
Will Toyota release one with the Uber fragrance? Spice, BO, curry?
@darrenburtoft1792Ай бұрын
This, or the N-Line Sonata? 🤔
@anthonymindel5861Ай бұрын
This any day of the week
@PSjustanormalguyАй бұрын
You would think Toyota could ship an Uber-ready model that has industrial strength deodourant plumbed into the driver's seat.
@JJ-wi2uwАй бұрын
I wonder if this model will have any more headroom than the previous model, which at 182 cm tall (with a long torso) I found quite tight. That piano black on the passenger side of the dashboard looks Mehhhhh.
@AnthonySarino-f7nАй бұрын
$59k drive away!!! My goodness.
@chantellemcswain4120Ай бұрын
I'll take a model 3 thanks
@icyfire207Ай бұрын
Boring is perfect for me now. Think I am getting old. I prefer this over Tesla. You get better cabin, comfort and most importantly resale value.
@nevininni2709Ай бұрын
No one wants beige or tan leather interior unless you are over 80 years old. The black leather looks great.
@mclouj29 күн бұрын
I reckon the bronze colour with a tan interior would be mint. Now where did I leave my pension card?
@phugemawlАй бұрын
I wonder if we'll ever see a car again that only rquires a 200 dollar battery replacement
@Mububban23Ай бұрын
My next car will likely be an EV, but if the Camry still came in a wagon I'd have one in a heartbeat. 400kg braked towing - is that low for a hybrid vehicle?
@colinkay6599Ай бұрын
not much radically better than my 2021 gen 8 hybrid which gets 4.6-4.8L/100 and I only use regular fuel over 250,000km. The safety features are the real seller.
@radissimo1Ай бұрын
limited head space, awkward sedan boot and premium fuel needed, how is it a good for fleet/taxi drivers apart the comfort and fuel consumption, plus it's not cheap!
@MarcoPolo-vb1swАй бұрын
Cloth seats improve interior quietness.
@nathanma148220 күн бұрын
it is cheaper to run the camry. Tyres of an EV wears out a lot quicker because it is much heavier than a Camry
@__PJ__Ай бұрын
Was waiting for one of these after driving one in the states.... but its a 12month wait... no thanks not for a camry.
@navneetkumar466Ай бұрын
That sounds like it's not your cup of tea mate...
@__PJ__Ай бұрын
@@navneetkumar466 Yup the tea will def be cold after a 12 month + wait for a Camry.
@paulklp8262Ай бұрын
Disappointed this isn't a brand new platform. Not worth the 60k asking price. Why not just buy a lightly used ES300h?
@erwin734Ай бұрын
Byd seal premium better car in every way and it's rwd.
@GlowingTubeАй бұрын
A great car… unfortunately I won’t purchase a sedan anymore.
@nouribrahim3873Ай бұрын
unfortunately, for this model, I feel that the interior was built of cheap material . Great car, though
@dreamshifta370Ай бұрын
No more HUD :(
@koblmoАй бұрын
I came up with a new moto for toyota "mediocrity perfected" Theyre a great car
@moizahadsaggu5462Ай бұрын
@chasing cars gift me one camry for uber driving. I will give you real feedback and lots of love .......
@TheStagswagАй бұрын
60k+ though ....
@faheem1961Ай бұрын
The worst thing is noise coming into the cabin...toyota is lazy and never cares about this
@JJ-mc8luАй бұрын
Did they have to make it look so boring???
@chantellemcswain4120Ай бұрын
Agreed my 2011 Corolla ultima has a more up to date looking interior compared to this
@gazaman702Ай бұрын
Paid review by uber. Stop car review and start drive uber.