FLEXIBLE Elektron Analog Heat // Dawless Mastering Chain part #2

[@Davemech]

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[@danpreston564]

I love the idea of a 30 minute track where the music doesn’t change at all, but the settings on the Heat keep changing and subtly changing the sound.

[@sr_naranja_music]

😂

[@eyesintheskies]

Thats exactly how most of my jams end up!!!

[@darkeldarblade916]

I had the heat for years and never knew about the Envelope follower as a compressor. Thanks!

[@staIIed]

dave brother the sheer production quality of your channel incredible.. this is just the start of a household name in hardware experimentation and review.. keep going!!

[@Davemech]

Thank you so much! Really means a lot. I'll keep plowing through and see where things go :)

[@kevindewinter8235]

Forgot to say your AH preset is really good! Tested it today

[@Davemech]

Glad to hear it, thank you :)

[@georgerivera7193]

Got a analog heat as a gift last week and was trying to figure out how to get some good use from it and then you released this video. Thank you for your great tutorials.

[@Davemech]

Wonderful, thank you 👍 that's really a great gift !

[@JohnnyCrump]

This is a great video, Dave! I was just having one more KZbin search before I put my heat up for sale today. I am now definitely NOT selling it. Really useful, thanks

[@Davemech]

Nice 😀👌

[@DOCJACOBI]

Very insightful video on this device. Bought it a couple of weeks ago and loving every moment of it. Would love to see a follow up video on other creative uses for it. Thanks again for this one.

[@Davemech]

Nice! Thank you. Yeah will do at some point :)

[@DOCJACOBI]

@@Davemech hee dave, hope you're doing well. Any idea when a second part showing more of the analog heat will come out? Also another question I hope you might be able to answer. I just got an electro harmonic Platform (stereo) compressor / limiter and I'm wondering if I should put this before or after the analog heat in my A&H PX5? Or should I use it more on individual channels as a send for synths for example? I've tried some combinations now and I'm just not sure yet. Love to wonder what you think about this. Thanks.

[@santpoortmusic]

so cool to come across your channel after knowing you since you made the song Cycles, like a cool 15-ish years ago! (- hi from julien mier, back from the old foem days)

[@Davemech]

Woa that's a long time ago yeah :) that was a cool forum. how are you?

[@santpoortmusic]

@@Davemech im very well! living in Australia for nearly a decade, how about yourself?

[@dtschorn]

Awesome video, sometimes I regret having my AH (almost) permanently on the saturation setting, but this video is a great demonstration of how versatile and smooth it can be. Thanks.

[@Davemech]

Thanks for watching. Yeah it's super versatile. Probably will add another video going into more creative uses.

[@soundswhile9529]

@@Davemechplease do! still stuck in heat vs boum land 😂

[@adriaduch5094]

what a great tutorial! One of the best I've seen about AH. Thanks a lot!

[@Davemech]

Thank you!

[@zeusdeux]

Sounds like a Thomas Fehlmann track haha awesome as always Dave!

[@Davemech]

Thanks dude :)

[@kevindewinter8235]

Great vid! The AH is so underated. I managed to make it as a Synth with the lfo in audio rate. Now i am trying to get a vactrol kind of lpg but not with succes yet…

[@Davemech]

I can recommend the Steady State Gate by SSF. Sounds very very good. Not a true vactrol lpg but to me as close to it as it can get and it can go beyond that.

[@kevindewinter8235]

Thx yes next to Rabit Elephant one of the best from what i heard.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Bought one to use as end of signal FX processing chain with my synths since there is good 20% deal this month a no brainer such a great tool.

[@Davemech]

That’s indeed a great deal. Enjoy :). And I can recommend exploring not as a sound design tool as well !

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

@@Davemech agree its super amazing! Easiest of the Elektron boxes to use and fun as well. Takes boring synths and breathes life into them.

[@tendingtropic7778]

thanks for the video and the presets!

[@Roland_Tr909_Swing]

Still rocking the elektron gear dave

[@peladoclaus]

What else?

[@abletonflow4673]

I have a Syntakt that is known to be Analog too, could you tell me if the sound quality changes if I want to enter the DAW through USB or if I do it through line output to my audio interface?

[@Davemech]

Yeah syntakt has 4 analog voices and the analog fx block. So basically the difference should be negligible and possibly even slightly cleaner via syntakt’s own USB out as it takes less conversions between the analog to digital domain. Your audio interface is also connected via usb ao there’s always that AD convention. But that way there will be one more ADDA convention happening. But generally you probably won’t hear any obvious difference. A big upside of using syntakt’s usb is that you can stream individual tracks to your daw through overbridge.

[@saardean4481]

Hi Dave. A happy new year! One question and forgive me if i missed it in the video. Is it possible to set something that results in SC filter so i could process only , say above 120hz or Frequency X so the low things donts trigger the distortion as much? Ideally with the Analog Heat Mk1. I have a good offer and if this is possible i am going for it If its always only full band then i don`t need it

[@RobertAdachi]

Excellent review of AH! Great job, Dave!

[@Davemech]

Thank you!

[@zedd_centauri]

Any plans to do a new video with the Analog Heat + FX? I’m currently using this on my master insert for the live rig, but maybe ditch it for the SSL Big SiX bus compressor. I mean, its built-in. But I can’t really over cook in the same way I could with the Analog Heat. I like the idea of using this to create hard drive moments. I make electro, so getting nasty seem like an occasionally fun way to drive.

[@daflux7]

thank u buddy !

[@eyesintheskies]

Keep eyeing up this but just reminds me there’s still corners of the analog rytm I’ve not explored. Only just discovered there’s an lfo on the effects section 🤦🏻

[@yurikalashnikov2460]

Wow I just got an analog heat mk2 off of reverb now that mk3 is released. I really like the saturations and distortions but it’s kinda noisy- I probably need to gain stage a little better and not just max everything, but I was just turning it on for the first time soooo…. Anyway, thanks for all of the information, tips, and ideas.

[@SchnauzerTraxx]

Great video, where do you have this connected to the mixing desk for this, main outs or sub outs and back into a channel?

[@Davemech]

Thanks! For live use it depends on the mixer that I'll use. If it has a master insert I'll use that. In the studio i have it set on a master insert as well.

[@Chris-qq7mt]

The best Heat video on KZbin! Do you know if the preset works on the mk1?

[@Davemech]

Thank you! Yes works :) it's the same firmware 👍🏻

[@Chris-qq7mt]

@@Davemech great, thanks a lot!

[@evenmind-music]

Thanks a lot for your work on this!

[@Davemech]

Happy to share :) anything else you'd like to see tested with heat?

[@evenmind-music]

Played with the preset preparing for a gig next week and will definitely use it! One question, as the saturation is a bit too heavy for my music: When reducing the drive parameter (to 70), will I loose a lot of peak control? Output volume is remarkably lower that way but I don’t think it’ll be an issue? Thanks a lot, Dave.

[@Davemech]

@@evenmind-music is your input level not hitting above 80% of the level? Otherwise dial back the saturation a bit yes. You lose a bit of the peak control then but the sound is most important. you could compensate the volume loss a little with the dirt parameter on the filter page. Enjoy your gig! And would love to know how it sounded with the preset:)

[@evenmind-music]

@@Davemech input level is around 80%. Thanks a lot man, really appreciate it!

[@TeleporterM11]

Dave which is your favorite hardware mastering unit. Dave I would much rather if you used different songs as examples I didn’t get what all the tweaking was about.

[@martinnonstatic7435]

another great vid !! dankje , groetjes

[@martinnonstatic7435]

such a good idea to post this video in case u vannot effort the Doctron imc. ok there is surely a difference but this one can be used very authentic too.

[@peglapegla]

Hello Dave. First of all thanks for this video and bunch of examples and explanations how this unit affects the sound. I just wanted to ask you one question. What are you using the measure LUFs in this video? Cheers Dario

[@Davemech]

Thanks ! Good to hear it was useful. In this case I used izotope insight. But there’s a free vet called youlean sound meter. Great vst :)

[@peglapegla]

@@Davemech Thank you very much.

[@tommyfeinstoff]

Thank you so much for this video. I wonder tho. Why would someone saturate and even come out with more peaks? I don't get the point of this device then. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Davemech]

Thanks ! Don’t understand what you mean though? As I showed in the video you don’t come out with more peaks. That’s why I use the settings that I use. To reduce peaks.

[@eyesintheskies]

Quick question 🙋‍♂ Do you find yourself using the heat much now you have the model 1?

[@Davemech]

Certainly. Although I now use a combination of boum into IMC right now. But otherwise I'd still be using heat after model 1. However , without it you can already do a lot with just the model 1 in terms of peak control :)

[@eyesintheskies]

@@Davemech damn i just let one go cheap to fund the model 1.4! Although i forgot you play out live quite a lot so it makes sense . Id be using the mixer mostly in the studio. & Have other filter boxes for thee craziness 🤔 still wondering if it was a mistake but hay im one step closer to playingdifferently!! Thanks for the reply 🙏 Appreciate your channel 🤛

[@Davemech]

@@eyesintheskies Ahh don't worry about it then ;) You'll love the 1.4 and the drive on each channel is actually a really nice sounding feature. Cheers!

[@mistercheetah9717]

Would you say the Mk1 is functionally the same for someone mainly using it as a module with overbridge2?

[@Davemech]

Mk1 firmware and hardware are pretty much the same except for the screen and that you can use mono L in So Yeap , it’s functionality the same 👍

[@marcelsmoorenburg]

Thanks for this explanation Dave of the AH! I can make a lot more out of my AH then how I used it so far. I knew it, but this will help. I don't have a spectrum meter, but the amp meter on the AH give the same information isn't it?

[@Davemech]

Nice! Yes more or less but i like to be exact :) and sometimes it's a bit harder to tell because of the peaks. 0.5db difference can already trick your brain. If you have any DAW, it will have a level meter with an option to read out LUFS. A spectrum meter is where you see the frequency range ;)

[@marcelsmoorenburg]

@@Davemech Yes, I thought so about the spectrum naming, but you knew what I meant. I still don't use a DAW at the moment, but that moment will come after I finished my music-/workplace at home very soon (till this date still using temporary setups in the living room 😅). Hopefully only for mastering and recording. Still a lot of (Elektron) gear to explore. 😉

[@mytragin.3.6.9.9]

Thanks mr. Device Master ! (;

[@morganhuggins5035]

Great video! Do you ever use the filter live? Particularly the high pass filter

[@Davemech]

Thanks! Depends a bit. If there’s a xone mixer available I use the filters on that. Last two weeks ingaf a regular analog mixer so then I use the hp filter on the heat 👍

[@raysubject]

Thanks for this video, very helpful ! Now i know i definitely need AH into my setup lol :) Also i'm curious if analog FX chain inside Syntakt can fully replace Analog heat ... i'm thinking about chain Digitone>Digitakt>Syntakt where in Syntakt everything except of KICK (all other tracks except of kick + external audio in) will be routed to analog FX chain ...

[@Davemech]

Happy to share :) Honestly it can't compete really. The AFX block is nice but you simply don't get as much control over your signal. No envelope follower for starters. It's great and I use it a lot for syntakt and it surely is a nice FX processor. But i wouldn't use it as as an output mixing stage. You also give up a lot of what makes syntakt so great by going that route since you can't use the AFX block in creative ways anymore. However, don't hesitate to experiment with that approach of course :). Experimentation is key and maybe you'll land on a signature sound that you love so definitely try it!

[@raysubject]

@@Davemech i still didn't jumped on syntakt, still on the fence :-) Just speculating .. yeah no envelope follower but you can just trigger envelope with triggers from sequencer, so you actually don't need follower, or i am wrong ?

[@Davemech]

@@raysubject it's not the same. Envelope follower follows the signal. The negative envelope on the AFX block is just a static envelope which doesn't take its curves from an input signal. You can achieve a pumping effect with the inverted envelope setting and it's certainly nice :) but i personally wouldn't put an entire signal chain through that. It's also not actually responding to a signal with a kick that way. But then again, it can be a sound :) . It's just not the same as an analog heat or even an analog heat light. It's just its own thing

[@raysubject]

@@Davemech yeah makes sense .. thanks for explaing..

[@tendingtropic7778]

Hi dave, what do you think of the compressor of the AH+fx versus the BOUM?

[@theoneselve]

fx compressor is a digital. boum has little bit less featured compressor but it's analog

[@remydupon9965]

Great video Dave!! 👌 Did you ever tried the OTO BOUM? Would be a nice comparison 🙂

[@Davemech]

Thanks! Planning to :) have to buy it though so maybe later this year. Definitely curious to check it out.

[@skilpad_89]

I'm picking up the signal from an analog console in three stereo pairs. one stereo pair goes to the analog heat, and in order to equalize the bypass of the analog hit into one unit gain with those two stereo pairs, I had to change the sensitivity on the input channels in RME UCX, by the standard they are +4, and I set the analog heat to -10. and they are completely equal, you send a sine -18 and receive a sine -18 with a bypass analog heat. may be useful for someone

[@saardean4481]

I like high value Videos Like this one. To the point without ego trips and commercials . Nice Could i do what you show in the video using the mk1 version? Have you found-tried any other similar breed devices for mastering purposes other than Analog Heat and Oto Boum ? When I am looking for an analog coloring box I always land at 2000+ euros saturators or guitar pedals. Is it really only these two devices that come close to that I wonder.

[@Davemech]

Yeap mki is virtually the same. Mostly hardware related differences. But sound and function wise you’ll be able to do exactly the same on the mk1. Except for the IMC I haven’t gotten any more devices yet. But hope I can show a few more in the future :). I’ve got the analog heat fx as well so that’ll get a video as well for sure

[@saardean4481]

@@Davemech A while later. Hallo again. Rewatching now and it makes me curious to see a video where you go more targeted to the filter-eq section. In this i see the kick triggering most of the compression so i would like to see examples where you ease up on the bass energy and saturate more mids-highs than kick drums etc

[@masonmakesnoise]

Is this compressor setting also suitable for master insert of an mixer board? I'm thinking about to use the Analog Heat as kind of send/return for the final mix of my modular synthesizer and my Allen&Heath ZED-18 before the master out. Do you have any experience in such an usage? Nice vid by the way. 👌🏼

[@Davemech]

Yeap it is 👍 I use it with my SSL big six that way. Of course altering settings according to the music. Thanks for watching

[@peladoclaus]

I bugged the fck out of a tech friend of mine about an actual tube warmer.. hes one of those maker guys who made all his own modular components and now a PA system. He runs after the mixer that tube amp ino his custom cabinets. It's very warm. If you want I can intro you. It's a very warm room when his system is the one pumping the club.

[@Davemech]

Nice :) tube warmers are certainly great!

[@lwpweb]

this sound makes me hungry, really.

[@karljroe]

Dave , if you ever do a course on the AH, count me in ? Question noooooobbbb question …. How do I get you AH preset into the AH ! ? Sorry if it’s a really daft question …

[@Davemech]

Hi Karl! Maybe I’ll create one down the line yes :) You can import it through the Transfer application from Elektron. Download it at their support section on their website 👍

[@karljroe]

@@Davemech thank you , you are a ⭐️

[@daanbaas2962]

Láche woar!

[@burger659]

I think the oto boum sounds nicer.. but of course less functions..for live setups def yes but for the studio only, i think it is not needed.. i just use plugins

[@Davemech]

I have OTO boum. It’s also very nice and I slightly prefer it in terms of sound. Analog heat is more flexible of course and can go to places that boum can’t touch. Nothing wrong with using plugins. I especially like decapitator. But in the studio I still use OTO boum for every production as I think it adds something unique.

[@burger659]

@@Davemech ah ok .. maybe i should not have sell my boum :(

[@Davemech]

@@burger659 will do a video about it in a few weeks I hope. :). There’s a lot incredible software at the moment. If you currently get a result you are happy with, I wouldn’t worry :). One is not better than the other.

[@burger659]

@@Davemech yes, sure... i know some guys who make incredible music with software only ..this is why i work 98% in the box myself now ;)

[@Aquiiin]

This or Stimming Instant Mastering Chain?

[@eyesintheskies]

Yikes you could get at least 4 heats for the price of that thing! it is a pretty high spec build Though.

[@ShaighJosephson]

Mastering device my ass... The Analog Heat is nothing more than subtle distortion modes and a complete waste of money... Truth hurts... 💥