Flight of 2 Navy F-35C Lightning Vs Jas-39 Gripen | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@chrishaug]

Finally 😄👌

[@timmattle4730]

Do you ever fly the F35? I'd like to see you make it perform.

[@tmytyson]

King of the Canards: multi-way dogfight free-for-all (WVR, fox-2s optional) featuring a mix of - but not limited to - the JAS39E Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon, SU30SM Flanker-H, and Dassault Rafale. May the best 'nard win.

[@JohnDoe-vf2es]

Can you do a P-38 vs Mosquito dogfight, pleeeeeease??

[@bananabourbonaenima]

4:45 "You may die, but that's a sacrifice i'm willing to make"

[@evildoeswingaming977]

"I can't even get these guys on radar! I didn't even see them!" That's kind of the point.

[@VolkerGoller]

Dcs is dcs. I don’t think real Gripen pilots are that helpless against a F35

[@ayroods]

MK I eyeballs.

[@davidlacey7982]

F35s carrying external weapons and pylons, shoulder visible on radrar?

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

​@@VolkerGollerno. They would be. DCS stealth isn't modeled accurately. Real life F-35s against any pilot in any plane in the world is still a slaughter with the enemy never even seeing the F-35

[@M16_Akula-III]

​@@VolkerGollerNah, they are lol

[@jamesm1242]

Yea more content with LongShot. Best wingman of all time!!!

[@stanburk7392]

Ya but how many times can the guy get respawn before they cut him off?

[@DJBrettV]

@@jamesm1242 the best and also the worst at the same time. Somehow 😂

[@laymanengineer7502]

100%

[@mortenBP]

Well, that was a nice commercial for the F35...

[@Bowjah]

thanks for spoilling my video

[@dreaminknight]

It won every competition against Typhoon, Rafale, Gripen, Super Hornet...

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

@@Bowjah New to the channel? Best to always assume spoilers in the comments. And welcome!

[@snizami]

Yea, for a gamified and highly speculative simulation of it. It's an amazing aircraft but this means next to nothing. Being so heavily armed and yet remaining so stealthy certainly makes it a generous simulation.

[@forzaelite1248]

@@snizami Stealth is, among many things, relative. To an F-5 an F-18E might be stealth because of how outclassed the technology between the two are. Either way, external weapons don't automatically remove stealth and make you detectable from 100 miles out (assuming the Gripen C could reach that far). It _will_ increase RCS, but in the case it's at least plausible that it doesn't do so enough to outweigh the benefits of the extra missiles. Should be noted that the F-35 did hit the minimum requirements for the program while carrying some sort of external payloads as well, though which ones are classified but it's likely the wingtip Winders. For reference, the Raptor carries tanks in exercises to keep things _fair._

[@LongShotChannel]

Karma buddy. Want me as bait... 3... 2...1... "Missile out on one"

[@steveee_0]

When you start DCS for some fun but there are F-35s so it's a Halloween horror special...

[@TUROCK320]

Spectator speaking. When you start DCS you start on the taxiway during some days to undestand your jet. F35 is for content creator and blueberries.

[@ravstar52]

If there was ever a mission that would have benefited from the tactical replay, its this one

[@erkkipekkala560]

Would like to see more like this. I mean F-35's in full murder mode and then ground targets messing up the situation. All so fun to watch!

[@jeanclaude24]

Those F35's never gave you guys a chance to go on the offensive.

[@peterweller8583]

Yeah, well that is the plan. And a good plan that can survive really.

[@mattdavis8899]

The two of you together is so amazing to listen to "Just look in front!" "OH.... haha. What requires that amount of missiles?" "

[@350zwede8]

Would love to see the EW suite of a Gripen E modeled in DCS. These old Gripen Cs obviously wouldn't stand a chance against F35s, but Gripen E now thats a whole different ballgame.

[@resurgam_b7]

Loving all this collaboration with Longshot, it's always a treat to watch you two fly together!

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

The livery on those Gripens is sick.

[@2zzgeSupercharged]

I agree it's pretty 🤢

[@Murre__435]

Yeah, it looks awesome! (its the 6002 Gripen E Splinter Camo)

[@evo481]

super awesome

[@55Dag]

LS "I'm flying with the missile" GS "Stop doing that" lol

[@gunsandgranola7262]

I hate it when I'm looking around for the missile and BOOM, dead. Catches me off guard every time.

[@dontworry2379]

exactly why you shouldn't look for it as much and trust your plane to give you the information you need

[@firstchevalier]

So, these are great. GS always mops the floor in his videos, but now we're actually wondering who's going to win. Love it. More of this please. These mission videos with unexpected outcomes and events mid-mission are great.

[@gawddamnnotthisagain]

Anyone else finding the cockpit layout of the Gripen exquisite? Very clear and neatly too look at.

[@Argo_KZ]

Research the Gripen E variant for 🇧🇷. They made it into just one big screen.

[@SukhoiOfficial]

It's a gorgeous aircraft

[@albinfiskare]

Also there is a sandwitch in the glovebox, im not even kidding.

[@slwiser1]

Can you duplicate this using you current F35 tactics:: “27-0 in a single sortie against F-16s at operation Northern Lightning (with only 4 F-35s doing that killing). Quoted: “We took off out of Madison (to join the fight),” said Lt. Col. Bart Van Roo, 176th FS commander. “We went to our simulated air field out in the far part of the air space. As the two ship from the Northern half of the air space we turned hot, drove for about 30 seconds and we were dead, just like that. We never even saw (the F­35A).”

[@duanescribner9647]

"I'm gonna use you as bait for the F-35's!" 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@u9Nails]

I can't get them on radar, so dress in drag and do the hula. I'll see if they applaud your performance.

[@FukaiRei27]

Bait and bait in the end……

[@magnusfoxfowler]

When I saw the title Flight of "two" I instantly clicked to watch this duo, as it will be epic!!! Lol

[@JohanErikssonSWE]

maybe let a couple of Meteors rip and find their target, since you were not in risk of shooting each other. It is quite dirty win, but i mean.... your up agains stealth so its all allowed :D awesome video as always

[@Laerei]

"Both bandits on your six, really close!" followed by a peek behind and immediately exploding is peak comedy, hahahaa! It's like the missiles were waiting for you to look behind you before they explode. "Right behind you, kid." energy.

[@vainaviai9013]

A needed DCS update. Under wing load should negate most of the F-35s stealth.

[@peterweller8583]

True, but not the jamming.

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

New pylon mounts incorporate stealth technology into them. There's plans to adapt them onto the F-22 as well.

[@dontworry2379]

@@Liberty_or_Ded itll still degrade stealth though

[@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR]

According to who lol

[@dontworry2379]

@ basically everyone who knows even the slightest bit about radar. He might be exaggerating a bit it wouldn’t negate most of it but it would definitely increase the RCS by quite a bit

[@firebald2915]

"they have two missiles out on you...". Cue outro music.

[@truthseeker9454]

4:48 & 8:46 - See what happens when you invite LongShot to make a guest appearance and use him like that? What goes around.... 😆

[@Les.The.Occasional.Aviator]

As a fan, I feel for you guys. As an American, this makes me happy!

[@csebastian71]

Your death will definitely be on the next compilation 😂. Always a fun trip when you guys fly together.

[@arwong222]

Every time you guys say: “let’s split up” it never ends well

[@mrliver3250]

Love the 2 idiots on a Friday after work! ❤️

[@david.browntherealtor]

that video was hilarious! Way to advertise for the F-35! LOL

[@TimEriksson-w2n]

I wouldn't call it advertising since it's fighting an outdated plane.

[@most_sane_piano_enthusiast]

@@TimEriksson-w2n Those are Gripen E's, they are quite recent. But yeah, in comparison to 5th gens, they are a bit outdated.

[@cazcade77]

​@@most_sane_piano_enthusiastare they really Es? I thought they were older...

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

@@TimEriksson-w2n Other than the F22, what’s going to fare any better? Maybe the J20, but not by much.

[@peterp4037]

Lets be honest swedes do the same and their jet wont be able to match the latest sukhoi.

[@harutogames9204]

I like how the F35s launched from directly over friendly patriots making it seem like it was friendly fire lol

[@skylosfoxtrot2350]

You guys are properly the best duo on DCS.

[@BoltUpright190]

Using MLRS to take out PAC-3 is too funny. We designed both here in Grand Prairie.

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

Makes sense tbh. The Patriot simply does not have enough missiles in one battery to intercept the sheer volume an MLRS puts out lol

[@BoltUpright190]

@ObiWanShinobi917 Exactly. Not to mention the huge difference in cost per rocket. Btw, the guys at LTV (now Lockheed) take exception to calling it "Patriot". Raytheon's original Patriot wasn't terribly lethal, whereas PAC-3 is the Terminator.

[@danielbrown9368]

"I did not enjoy that" . Good sales pitch for the F-35

[@basicforge]

I just got a sense from the beginning that you were both going to get fragged. 🤣

[@codychild2665]

Good to see the F-35 getting some splashes.

[@mirkog2047]

That entire video is absolutely hilarious! Thanks!

[@sogerc1]

That was not demoralizing at all ☺

[@kurvaonwheels]

I read an article about the Eurofighter and they had one of your videos linked.

[@yotus3491]

What a cool video! Always love watching your stuff!

[@bobr8766]

LOL! Most entertaining! Now you both fly the Fat Amy and see how close you can get!

[@SaabJas-39Gripen]

The camo liveries on the Jas-39's look lit' icl

[@legalbeagle6853]

USN!!!!! I know you guys are flying against professionals

[@MikeRickard-l5d]

Like to see some vids where you are flying the f-35

[@nicolasvaleriano5329]

Recently Brazilian Gripen E's scored 2 simulated air kills against american F-15C's. Try to simulate that fight in a future video. If you could get a Brazilian livery for the Gripens that would be good too

[@peterp4037]

2 lucky shots vs 100+ air victories in the F15C over decades.

[@nicolasvaleriano5329]

@@bshaw71 I'm sticking to the real deal that happened in the last 10 days or so...if the americans had brought the F-15EX instead of the C i would be asking him to recreate the scenario just fine but it weren't. The actual real combat was between Gripen E x F-15C

[@dumdumbinks274]

@@peterp4037 F-15Cs are massive on radar and the Meteor is a more capable threat than the AIM-120D. I'd only expect the F-15Cs to win once they get modern missiles.

[@timpan4387]

@@peterp4037 those 104 kills were old Mig 29/23/21, Su 25/22/17/7 and a few Mirage F1 along with some old helicopters. Nothing modern so no, it wasn't just some lucky shots made by the JAS39's.

[@leatherneckprepper4477]

United States, Marine Corps, F35 the last thing you’ll never see.

[@TurboHappyCar]

This is how 5th vs 4th gen fighter matchups go. 😂 4th gen fighter: "I wonder where the enemy i..." 👀💥 Can you imagine if the 5th gen fighter had medium range IR missiles? There wouldn't even be a RWR when the missile went active.

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

They do. The AIM-9XER (Extended Range)

[@Ray33416]

So glad Canada chose to go with the Panther instead of the gripen

[@inclusivemodeldesigns16]

Be fun to see you fly the F-35..

[@dingmingzou9866]

no cockpit

[@Mcree114]

Ah man. I got excited and thought you finally found a good mature and well simulated F-35 build to fly.

[@Lew_in_Renton]

Sometimes I think you need one more "pilot" so you can be the three stooges! What's that guys name that GS always uses to be the Washington Generals? Hilarious stuff guys.

[@truthseeker9454]

Shotgun? Yeah, he's a skilled pilot I wonder if he's funny?

[@King_Dusty_Of_Pookytopia]

This will only get worse, for F-35 opponents, when it's systems are fully modeled.

[@cazcade77]

Well same goes for other jets. The gripens flown here are version A from the 90s

[@SonnyKnutson]

@@cazcade77 I actually think they tried to model the C version. But it's not well implemented. They basically disregarded the whole EW suite for Gripen which is one of it's strongest capabilities.

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

@@SonnyKnutson It really wont matter against an F35 man. It wont matter one bit.

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

@@SonnyKnutson Sneed. The EW suite isn't going to help you if you don't know where to point it at.

[@WasserstoffheizungYT]

5th gen means ..pressure on when pressure is on and its still on till you done ;)

[@haal4919]

oh man, I love whenever I get to see the Gripen on your channel. But it always hurts to se the Gripen dont quite reach the mark

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 146

[@l8knight845]

I'll sum it up for you. Super Hornet in 1 turn every time.

[@Mav09]

@ “If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." This is a quote from Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley. Personally I disagree with you. I once had a conversation with a pilot about the F-35A's maneuverability. He said that it flys like or better than a Hornet.

[@paradiddlesixix7530]

@@l8knight845 nah, aim 9x's negate any advantage that the super hornet may, or may not have. it would come down to which pilot aquired lock in their helmet first.. likely having a lot of instances where both planes were knocked down too. both planes can bleed energry and point its nose. the f35 has the thrust to gain that speed back or go vertical where a slow hornet may not be able to follow. may not matter if both planes are packing 9x's though.

[@stug77]

Ah yes, the magic dcs stealth pylons. Lol you could see the aim120 alone on radar at that distance.

[@mr.sahira20]

Gotta love the Gripen

[@RikkiSan1]

Favorite European fighter

[@peterp4037]

It had never fought in any real combat.

[@SonnyKnutson]

@@peterp4037 so?

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

When the F-35 is fully modeled, I want to see GS bring Toxic on as an ally, and watch them both fly F-35s against something that sounds crazy. Like an entire squadron of J-20s or J-15s/J-10s. I bet theyd win

[@pichupuche2474]

The last word from Gripen pilot "we didn't see them" RIP.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

F35 might not be the best looking jet ever made but technologically and how it performs in its role it’s more or less uncontested. It’s also a miracle it even works when the US government wanted one aircraft platform that can be a standard stealth multirole, STOL/VTOL ,and a Naval multirole.

[@JamesJones-w7d]

Dang GS, you crashed someone's BBQ

[@lamesandfn9693]

More of this please! It's nice when you're actually challenged

[@waywardson2625]

Imagine what a fight at night would be like...

[@mr_e_monkey8836]

It wouldn't be a fight. It would be a massacre.

[@OutlawLotus]

"Stop doing that." -The More You Know, Growling Sidewinder 2024

[@abdulnourr-Habibi]

F-35's are scary af

[@Ghost_6012]

I was expecting those meteors to be more of a problem like in previous instances, I swear those things have minds of their own.

[@Slipknotfanatic89]

If the F35 ever sees action it’s going to be an absolute monster

[@King_Dusty_Of_Pookytopia]

Its likely the F-35 would "burn out" the Gripen's radars.

[@mattiasrask1575]

you know it's not the real Gripen 39C waiting for standalone version with electronic warfare and radar and definitely not what E can do

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

​@@mattiasrask1575trying to "out muscle" an F-35 with full sensor fusion in an EW battle is like trying to win an arm wrestling match against a Silverback Gorilla. It doesn't matter how good or strong you are, you are going to lose

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

@@mattiasrask1575 Dude, the F-35's radar is almost 50% bigger than the Gripen E's is. The Gripen is not going to match the F-35 in an ECM/ECCM duel.

[@Ankhobo]

8:00 at least he wasn't merging with the missile. That would have been way worse.

[@johnmiles6405]

tac view would be perfect for this post

[@majornomad5952]

That F-35C looks amazing especially with the golden Cockpit look

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

F-35: "Yeah? YEAH? Who's fat now?!"

[@stevevanhorn1909]

F-35 .... Where ? Between us !!

[@miker3866]

This reminds me of the scene in Aliens where they have the alien contacts on the scanner in the room and they're trying to figure where they are and then they all look up at the vents and all hell breaks loose lol.

[@ryantorrey8485]

You really need to do a multi role mission in the f35. Start in Beast Mode and end in full stealth. Just saying. Love the videos. Keep up the good work.😎

[@Gozar111]

Epic video chaps!

[@jStorm75307]

Where did Who GO!? lol good video!

[@mr.fighterbomber3345]

Can you do an episode where you fly the F-35? Or is the F-35 a reskin for an already existing jet?

[@jeffschneider9516]

GS never flies the F-35. I've heard that its because the cockpit is low fidelity or something.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Waiting for a more mature f35 mod before we use it on the channel.

[@Yxe_spotter]

He said he would fly a the f35 a couple of video ago

[@MiG-31893]

@@GrowlingSidewinder any idea of when that would happen?

[@imza5535]

​@@jeffschneider9516cuz the cockpit is an f15c

[@petersmythe6462]

How will this be even remotely fair? You're going to get destroyed without an actual fight.

[@mdw1000]

The goal of air combat (and warfare in general) is to be as unfair as possible

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

It's not supposed to be fair

[@WilsonRawlins]

That was absolutely brutal.

[@JJJackson-lz1te]

"I did not enjoy that".....🤣🤪

[@englishredneckintexas6604]

They call the F-35 an air superiority jet for a reason.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thats interesting I've not heard it called that before. I was under the impression it was a SEAD and Ground attack platform, obvs it can do air to air but I don't think it was ever presented as an Air Superiority platform that job was mostly for the F-22...happy to be corrected.

[@TUROCK320]

Ingeneer (Marcel DASSAULT Aviation) i heard, talk about "more" a Ground Attack. I doesnt know who you are talking about.

[@dumdumbinks274]

The only time I've ever heard of the F-35 being called an air superiority fighter was as an early prospect for replacing the ageing F-15C/Ds around 2015. I'm guessing you've heard it more in the sense that it enables air superiority rather than being an air superiority fighter?

[@556MSL]

Cool scenario, thanks

[@ChuckTruitt]

Why are those rocket launchers so close together, rather than dispersed? -Gunny T sends

[@scalpelsledge]

pufferfish meme: 9:03 🤣 **AUGH**

[@bitmanagent67]

More of the dynamic duo

[@otterconnor942]

Yes. F35 bvr content. Liked

[@nickthompson2023]

TLDW: GS becomes a master baiter

[@curtisbartlett8170]

As bad as it ended, it was still great guys.

[@kennethwatson4489]

Thanks for sharing all the results. Even if it isnt flying an f22 into the ground with your P51 lol

[@dominicwinder5848]

Well that was quick

[@bmmcgregor3]

"okay im going to land" lmao

[@ThatAmericanMilitary]

He’s about to become a great Air Force pilot 🙏

[@qurtmancini5539]

Next video should be 2 gripen vs 2 F22

[@gabrieldeguanatos]

Lovely sky full of Chemtrails.

[@dfwald4657]

First time I've seen an F35 dominate on this channel. Time for the boyz to start flying them?

[@RT42069]

There was another video a while back where GS was flying a Flanker against a British F-35 with Meteors. It went similarly to this

[@grahamkylevulcan4340]

Ah, tough luck, chaps...

[@carcharhinus_555]

"I didn't enjoy that" - well, we as viewers certainly did 🙂But you knew that...

[@brucemacintosh5755]

No way I was expecting that to happen. I thought G.S, could beat F35's with a Mustang!!