Flight Simulator 2020 - ILS Approach Tutorial - Cessna Citation CJ4

[@captainhorn23]

NOTE: I am not sure why OBS is like a slideshow at some points in the video. I am working on making it as smooth as it is in the game. I can't even get outside shots of the plane because it becomes a slide show. If anyone wants to throw me a tip on improving this, I will try everything! I am currently in the process of trying to get it fixed.

[@SolidMGSnake]

What is your encoder set to on the recording settings?

[@captainhorn23]

It should be the Nvidia one. The newest one

[@capsilver85]

Also the clouds don't help if there are a lot of particles on the air it will hit the FPS.

[@PareidoliaHDGame]

Not sure if you fixed your problem but I would try to record without gsync/freesync if you have it on!

[@nightwing8755]

I have one question, I've done everything you've done, my flight route is yellow instead of purple. Is there something I missed?

[@johnrussell9033]

The most informative for a beginner that i've found so far. Thanks for this.

[@captainhorn23]

No problem man! Glad to help out!!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Pro-Tip: You should drop the gear when you're one dot below the GS (The GS diamond will be one dot above center), not established on the localizer. The goal is to be fully established (full gear and flaps) and Vref+10 at GS intercept.

[@stevewaters4158]

Bro, Thank you for this tutorial. I set up my first ILS approach with this aircraft because of your friendly and direct ways of teaching it!

[@captainhorn23]

Glad it helped!

[@fridjonvilhjalmsson2883]

I used to hand fly the CJ4 when I first started, simply because I couldn't program the FMC. Now, a few months down the track and a lot of practice on Boeing airliners, I'm back on the Cessna. This was a great refresher course on the ILS approach and now I'm ready to give it another wirlie. One thing which is a real bummer and that is "No Auto Throttle" but it's just another thingy to get used to.

[@tonynes3577]

As an armchair💺 FS enthusiast, this sounds like Chinese to me, with a lot of repetition needed to learn it. ...... After viewing it several times, I am getting it! ....EXCELLENT clear INSTRUCTION!

[@user-zl4hk2mz5m]

Thank you so much for uploading this & for the clear explanation. I was so confused after watching other KZbin videos on how to do this, but after watching your video it was easy to understand. Roll forward a few weeks later & it’s like second nature to me now.

[@soupkin]

after hitting activate you now have to hit exec (execute) to make the nav turn from yellow to purple

[@Hokeyrocks78]

Thanks for that information! You saved my day! 🙏

[@mapolinski]

Um, the CJ4 does NOT have reversers. I understand that version in MSFS has "magical" reversers though.

[@captainhorn23]

Lol I didn’t even know this. I’ve noticed the engine doesn’t slip or look like it’s reversing 😂

[@flyguy54]

@@captainhorn23 Latest patch 9/17 disabled the reverse thrusters since they do not exist on this aircraft. The patch did, however break the altitude select. As soon as you change the alt knob the plane descends/ascends on its own in response. Incorrect behavior.

[@flyguy54]

How do you determine vRef? The FMC doesn't appear to calculate it.

[@SkateZombie]

thanks dude just landed my first ILS with major fog in Soeul , South Korea.

[@dominiquez5643]

Man ! You are an authority ! Thank you for the autopilot video, much appreciated it ! Yet another amazing video !

[@joshuaburke7034]

Down to earth & informative, definitely planning on flying this jet a lot more often thank you for making the tutorial

[@captainhorn23]

Thanks man! I try to make it as informative and short as possible! ☺️

[@felipetrindade1834]

Some updated info (2024) based on my experience: If you manually switch from FMS1 to LOC1, depending on your transition vector, there's a high chance of your airplane going into ROLL mode and when that happens it will just fly in circles. Instead, you just hit the APPR button once you're past the vector and literally just wait, the FMS1 will automatically change to the LOC1, this usually happens when you're alligned with the runway.

[@nightwing8755]

This was the best ils I've seen for someone who has never done an ILS before. Other videos I've seen made it too difficult.

[@marshie1337]

No bs, explained it perfectly for me. Thanks bro, def subbed

[@captainhorn23]

No problem man!

[@daihappy]

Thanks captain for another great video really enjoying new flight sim and am learning a lot from your tutorials keep em coming👍

[@captainhorn23]

No problem my man! I’m glad I could help you out so much and that you are enjoying the new simulator! Let me know if you have any questions or something you would like to see covered!

[@libernihilus]

thank you! i was able to configure ILS in the msfs world map menu, but i was curious how to do it in the cockpit. this is exactly what i am looking for! the other msfs creators who are RL pilots lean heavily into jargon and lose me halfway through. Beginner pilot here, thanks captain o7

[@camdenramos73]

As much as I love for you to become a big KZbin it would be very hard for you to interact with us if you had more subs but thanks for all the amazing content

[@captainhorn23]

Thanks so much for these kind words! I love interacting with everyone that comments. I try to rely to everyone which is possible at this point. I wish you become a big KZbinr soon, but I see what you mean. It would be difficult to reply to every single comment, but I would try my best. Join the Discord and I can interact with people a lot easier especially if I do get bigger. I don’t see a lot of you tubers reply to their comments and I think it’s very important that they do so, which is why I do lol.

[@jamrolypolypud]

bloody marvelous. Complete and succinct and I have no doubt after watching this, over and over again, I'll be able to do it. :)

[@Mistkaefer77]

Really love your tutorials, they are great and easy to understand. Thanks a lot

[@captainhorn23]

Thanks so much for your kind words! I’m glad I am helping you out!!

[@matthewcarter4402]

Any idea guys why my line is yellow and yours is purple? Nav doesn’t seem to work because of this. Any help much appreciated!

[@luisneto120]

Hey, did u resolve this issue? I am facing the same issue. 🥲 thanks

[@Fromatic]

​@@luisneto120do you have a flight plan setup in the computer?

[@pitstopjohn]

Thanks mate, finally a great video on how to land the CJ4 using ILS, been landing in snow storms, at night, feeling like a pro. Now I am hoping you've done one for some of the bigger aircraft :-)

[@connoryalizburg695]

Thank you, so easy to follow and understand!

[@bensaville477]

Do you know how long I've been looking for this fucking video?! Massive respect 👍👍👍

[@Zebikpl]

Great tutorial. Does AP control approach speed as well or this needs to be manually controlled?

[@brucer.7885]

You're a very good teacher, very easy to follow. I thank you sir! You didn't seem to enter a departure runway on this flight is that critical?

[@captainhorn23]

Thanks man!! I’m trying my best haha. No it’s not critical if you are just practicing, but in the real world, (and vatsim) yes it is critical to enter a departure runway, SID, and transition.

[@jetwashcowboy1091]

Nice recap of Proline 21 just for fun! Thanks! I will say a lot of company standards, mine included call for AP disengage at 200 AGL. Also I’m not sure the CJ4 has TRs. Great video though!

[@jamesschwichtenberg7476]

you have no idea how much you helped me, thanks alot dude.

[@stamis22]

I would like to start off by saying great video, what I am about to say is not a critique on you but rather the sim itself. I am not familiar with the simulator logic in this aircraft on fs2020, I know some things are weird and not properly modeled. But in real life you would not actually switch over to LOC using the nav button. If you arm the approach while still in FMS mode, the navigation source will automatically switch over to LOC. You do not want to switch beforehand because that will do nothing but confuse the autopilot as it will no longer be flying towards whatever IAF you were cleared to, and the nav source will just be the localizer and capturing it wherever it can. The exception to this of course is if you are on vectors (which to be fair you usually will be in the real world) then you can switch the nav source to the localizer, but in that case you should be on heading mode on the autopilot with the approach armed instead of nav mode. Granted I’m not too sure if the sim allows you to arm other modes like it does in real life. All my experience has been in a full motion class D hawker 900xp sim and I just recently finished that course and started flying this in FS2020 after my course ended to satisfy my craving for turbine operations. I have to say I am slightly disappointed in some of the functionality of the aircraft (normally when flying a SID I would select heading mode but have the NAV mode armed on standby as a lot of SIDS call for a climb on a specific heading before following the nav sources and this decreases pilots workload by automatically switching from heading to nav at the proper time, however this does not appear to be modeled in fs2020 or I am doing something wrong) the fmc is missing a lot of features and does not seem to function properly, for example after loading an approach while in the air, that approach did not appear in my legs page and I could not select direct to certain fixes. This is similar to my disappointment with the G1000 as it does not seem to function properly adding in tons of user waypoints and curved lines that should not exist and make flying approaches a nightmare imo. Overall I enjoyed the video and found it a very good tutorial for how to utilize this simplified version of an FMC and to teach someone who has no experience with FMC’s how to use it for approaches. My only complaint is with FS2020 itself and the somewhat baffling (in my opinion) omissions of functionality as someone who has operated with fully functioning fmc’s and autopilots in much older aircraft.

[@aikidoshi007]

Nice job Captain!

[@captainhorn23]

Thanks so much my man!!

[@murfman89]

Great video, how do I enable the reverse thrusters?

[@jalapenocider2169]

Im pretty sure this plane doesn't include reverse thrusters.

[@captainhorn23]

Thanks! The CJ4 does not have reversers anymore

[@RonnegadeYT]

Is there anyway to make your mouse over tooltips look like this again? I hate the big massive tooltips that are in game now

[@fredericchambon3820]

thank you very much for this tutorial !! this is perfect for a beginner like me ;) thank u again

[@captainhorn23]

Glad it was helpful!

[@11clarkm]

Please help me. I have a problem whereby when I switch the FMS to LOC1 the plane continues to follow the FMS route when in NAV mode, rather than the runway frequency. It only follows it when I click APPR mode. Is this correct or am I doing something wrong? In FSX the plane would follow in NAV mode, you didn’t have to set it to APPR mode unless you wanted the glidescope.

[@pearlmcp]

Awesome video. Thank you for being do detail in this as well as you other DJ4 video. Have you done an RNAV flight yet? I'm using an Xbox series x and I really want to "like" the DJ4 but am struggling with the FLC/manage speed. Also, it doesn't seem to do VNAV/RNAV. I have seen some other videos but they do not explain the "how's and why's" when they are doing something. Things "just happen" and I'm wondering "how in the world did they do that"? I will say I do love the A320 RNAV approaches and can handle the best of them. The 737 max on an Xbox doesn't cooperate so I'm thinking maybe the RNAV on the CJ4 might not work on the Xbox. Any thoughts? Thanks again .

[@davidp7571]

Thanks @CaptainHorn23 this looks like a really inciteful video however my CJ4 FNC (?) looks different to yours as if it's pre-programmed and some of the buttons that you use are showing NA. Is this due to some easy mode setting or something and if so do you know how I can disable it?

[@HighwayTrooper]

Always a banger 🔥

[@michaelspark482]

nice video captain horn

[@captainhorn23]

Thank you!

[@richardneville4255]

I flew one of these last night for the first time but struggled with setting up the approach, your video clears things up, thank-you! Is there a way that you can manually tune the radio frequencies for nav's on this model?

[@captainhorn23]

No problem man glad to help! I would have to check, but possibly yes through the FMC

[@CJWANGxx]

Great video,its very useful for me,thanks again!

[@gazb0075]

Very informative and well presented. Thank you.

[@jimsaunders8395]

apart from my last comment , you are excellent to follow ,,

[@jimsaunders8395]

no doubt something ive done , just strange followed exact

[@garrettb7068]

My lines don’t turn purple and I don’t know why. Please help

[@luisneto120]

Hey, did u resolve this issue? I am facing the same issue. 🥲 thanks

[@redwatch1100]

I keep getting the urge to switch over to VR when watching this. haa

[@polystyrene_gangster]

watch out you'll never go back

[@erickfirmino7533]

Best tutorial ever! TY

[@virtualskyaviation8200]

I use the Twitch OBS and the MSFS2020 replay mod. I run the replay and capture the video via the Twitch OBS. From there I place the raw video in Adobe Premiere Pro and edit it to the completed version. This seems to really work without dropping any FPS. Hope that helps.

[@mokusmisi]

Great Tutorial, thanks! 🙂 How can you activate the reverse thrust at CJ4? In the case of airliners it is working perfect, but not in case of CJ4?

[@matthewprice6444]

Really useful video for beginners.. when I have selected the departure and arrival airports and selected an IlS approach, when I click on Activate, the flight plan line on the map stays Yellow instead of purple. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

[@KristianBrouerSeedorff]

I had the same problem but just figured out the solution. You have to press the EXEC button to execute the actual flight plan.

[@temphasrizz]

@@KristianBrouerSeedorff thanks

[@robertoorlandi]

Nice video!

[@Blue_Angel.555]

Very informative, thank you! liked and subscribed :-)

[@captainhorn23]

Awesome, thank you!

[@mikekaplan2227]

This is a really helpful video. I'm having an issue with this plane where I'm being lined up about 10 feet or so to the right of the runway on my approach. I'm doing everything in the video. Hitting the NAV button so it follows the GPS, on approach switching to the Nav1 frequency, hitting the APPR button when centered with the glideslope. But it seems like every airport I fly into I'm not lined up in the center of the runway so if I don't take the AP off at the end and hand fly it in while turning it slightly to the left, I would land on the grass next to the runway. Does anyone have any tips or know why this is happening? FWIW I play on the Xbox. Thanks

[@stamis22]

You want to make sure it’s following the localizer not the gps when you’re on the approach. Make sure that the active nav mode on the PFD says LOC not FMS.

[@luarvikluarvik4276]

Thank you for the knowledge.

[@3mate1]

Are you using a mod? ARR/DEP Index doesn't work like you say in my latest patch as of Feb 20, 2021. I enter KFCM for both DEP and ARR, and I don't get the option to Set my approach until AFTER I select a SID AND Departure runway... hit activate ... then I can go back to ARR/DEP index button and I can now see the ARR and select my ILS runway. Maybe this is a patch and they changed the FMC functions since you published your video. You do it in one step, but now it's 2 steps. Activate the Dep, and then activate the arrival.

[@captainhorn23]

I am not using a mod. I would have to check about the update! It is very possible they changed some things around with this plane.

[@BorjaAlmazan]

Hello! Thanks for the video, at 8:10 near the Speed indicator there is a pink bar going up, do you know what it is and what is the function? Thanks

[@captainhorn23]

Hey man! Thanks for you kind words! Do you mean the pink line/bar that is very small that moves up with the speed?

[@BorjaAlmazan]

@@captainhorn23 yes, thats it, one that goes up and down

[@roblindsay3317]

Nice video but after several tries my autopilot wants to go around in a circle then fly away from my flight plan. Good practice I guess.

[@emmanuelex]

Awesome.. Thank you, Xplained very well..

[@captainhorn23]

Glad it was helpful!

[@imhearsay]

nothing ever works for me. i followed the instructions exactly and when i click on dep arr it only show

[@onlineamiga]

I had the same problem. It seems it doesnt like departing and arriving at the same airport. If you take off from a different airport it works. So best to try a flight plan between two close by airports. Maybe something like london city to london heathrow.

[@SolidMGSnake]

Nice landing

[@captainhorn23]

Thank you!

[@carlosmarquina4969]

Hi!!! Excellent video. However quick question, when i click activate the route does not turn purple. Why does that happen?

[@luisneto120]

Hey, did u resolve this issue? I am facing the same issue. 🥲 thanks

[@lastcall170]

I was wondering what happened to that LOC button ...lol Ive been just hitting APP button while in FMC constantly and getting decent ILS landings. I guess this sim is more forgiving than the real thing.

[@MsMumuku]

I landed at EGGW ILS 25 and it wasn't able to stay on the glide slope. GS anunciator was green, tried to keep my speed between 120 and 140 kt. Had the same problem on the TBM 930 yesterday in EDDN. Had to do it manually in the end both times 😒

[@captainhorn23]

Hmm I wonder if it is just a bug or instability? Make sure you are not too far below or above the glide slope when you engage APP

[@captainhorn23]

Join my discord and we can help you out there! We can even screen share and I’ll guide you through it

[@MsMumuku]

That's what I thought, too. I was under the impression I had already been established on the GS and it wasn't trying too hard to stay there. Will try it a few more times and then hop on your Discord if the problem persists. Could be a while, though, have very little time atm. Thanks for the offer!

[@theguyfromberlin]

Brilliant. Thank you.

[@shankarasharya8368]

Many Thanks to you. very helpfull Video!!!

[@captainhorn23]

No problem my man! ☺️

[@asw1596]

Thank you very much. I don't know i to setup reverse on cg4. Can you tech me? Thank you

[@steveashton8669]

Any chance you can do an update as the FMC in my cockpit does not match the one in your video, I'm assuming that the fmc has changed, I didn't see in your video which arrival you used but it lokked like a mirror image of the one I picked.

[@ktjarvgaming7002]

I was following the toutorial but as soon as I had to key in or press buttons on the FMC nothing happens, I cant figure out why the buttons don't work.

[@gypsysoul1719]

A year later, maybe they changed something. I try to duplicate your instructions exactly. All well until I get to the point after which you selected ILS 36L. I select this and get the WELET transition just as in your video. But then you see ROUTE> on your MFC. I do not see ROUTE>. In that position I have CANCEL MOD>. And below that, highlighted is the work EXEC at very bottom of display. I thought this meant I should click EXEC button, so did that, but not the MFD shows different ILS approach beginning with CUNUK waypoint. I don't know where to go to get the route you created for the FMS.

[@gypsysoul1719]

I meant FMC not MFC or FMS. Still learning all this. By the way, your video is excellent, very understandable.

[@davegeorge4757]

This worked great until, well, the very first step. My FMC screens look completely different, and I can't figure any of it out. It says "NO FLIGHT PLAN" and I can't figure out a way to get to the screens you see. Oh well. I guess I need an even more basic tutorial.

[@gettodachopper]

A very good video! Have subscribed! How can i reverse the engines? I found nothing on the CJ4?

[@captainhorn23]

Thank you! The CJ4 actually has no reversers!

[@gettodachopper]

@@captainhorn23 Ah so i can search forever lol

[@thefrankmatthewscrimeorgan8930]

The navigation line didn't turn purple when I was setting up the ils during a free flight with out a destination. It only worked if is set it up with a destination from the main menu. Is there a way to set up another flight manually in the game after landing or do you have to restart the flight?

[@divinestag7878]

I’ve got the same problem

[@thefrankmatthewscrimeorgan8930]

@@divinestag7878 I got it to start working I just missed a step And I am able to even change my IlS during mid flight Just have to make sure you double check everything and make sure you hit the execute button after typing in the info for the flight destination and landing runway And also make sure you're now frequencies are correct Say you want to land at LAX you type in K LAX in Google you will find the sheet and you can double check your frequency Just be sure to select your runway And hit the execute button and you should be good Took me a couple tries to figure out what step I was missing but it's been a while

[@Red5.0931]

This great thank you!!!

[@camdenramos73]

I was just going to ask for a ifr Tutorial on the jet

[@captainhorn23]

Haha I don’t read minds I promise! 😂 I will be doing an ILS on the Cessna Logitude here soon as well!

[@rkmyersuk]

If you haven’t already, I would seriously recommend the Working Title mod for this aircraft. Vastly improved compared to the real deal and no reversers! 😂🤦🏻‍♂️ Good vid for beginners.....I would have been grateful for this some years ago 👍

[@captainhorn23]

I'll check it out! Thanks for your kind words! :)

[@Rohlík_GAT]

When i took off the glideslope thingy on my horizon didnt show up

[@Koptex]

Very nice video! A small question: What is the speed at touchdown?

[@captainhorn23]

Thank you! I would say around 120 knots.

[@keiths9874]

When I go to DEP/ARR I do not get these options. All I get is

[@madamjacky6255]

It doesn't work for me either... I do have the same option as you, I simply don't have my arrival for some... odd reasons. Although I re-did it at least 10 times haha.

[@FarmLapse]

How do you make the small circles and line in the middle appear where you can see the diamond? The localizer and glide slope pattern

[@isdinaghmir2570]

Thanks but For me, when I activate the route with the fmc, it is not purple in my gps, and the autopilot is not following the line... I have no Idea on how to fix that

[@luisneto120]

Did you resolve this issue? I am having the same issue. 😢 thanks

[@milodinosaurruz]

Thanks for all the tutorials! Buying MFS tmr! By the way, how will you be doing the giveaway, i truly want a chance to win! Thanks for the generosity captain horn!

[@captainhorn23]

No problem man! I love doing the tutorials for everyone! I am not sure how I will do the giveaway. I will have to think of something. It will be during a live stream though. Thanks for being a supporter of the channel my man!!!❤️

[@milodinosaurruz]

CaptainHorn23: Well thats too bad because usually your streams are during my bedtime and I am not an adult so I cant sleep late or wake up early. I am just a kid who really aspires to be a pilot. Perhaps there is another way?

[@captainhorn23]

Yeah man don’t worry. I’m thinking of other ways to have plenty of people involved. Surprisingly, a lot of my views are all over the world! I’ll come up with something, don’t worry!

[@areafifty]

I'm still trying to install MFS 2020

[@richardPalmisano]

how do you get the green diamonds with the waypoints showing on the radar screen the one you zoomed in and out

[@AffengeilJohn]

Thanks very nice

[@captainhorn23]

Most welcome!

[@nfapeng187]

I cant get this plane to work with AP like at all. Just does circles.

[@ThatCanadianGuy-e1p]

I guess vnav must be buggy, since it never lowers my altitude as it does with you.

[@submissions72]

Why is it when i land w9th the cj4 and i disengage the AP my jet then randomly speeds up?

[@jonasn945]

Selecting gear down is to be done when one gets the glideslope coming down from ABOVE. Chasing it like this risks to get a false glideslope. It´s remarkable insane that there is no panel/function to tune in an ILS freq the ordinary way anymore??? Why???!

[@temphasrizz]

for some reason the flight line appears yellow and when i turn on navigation it follows an invisible path and not the glide slope. any fixes?

[@danyboy6549]

I am late , but good video Thanks a lot

[@philknight8808]

We're looking at this on a small phone what I were trying to show didn't show in the next one bring your camera çloser to the instraments so we can see what ur talking about as far as the diamonds

[@kaioo1658]

How to you engage the reverse thrust and spoilers for landing?

[@mdaniels6311]

How to program this when you already flying?

[@uischirock]

ok good, but how to have vor 2 arrow on PFD?

[@robharwood866]

Followed to setup procedure step by step. Did not get the purple line , instead got a yellow one that did not look like the same route. Not sure where i went wrong. Any help would be appreciated

[@jvivlemore]

Same thing happened to me.

[@idk4772]

My lines kept yellow I was going from Portland to Vancouver

[@luisneto120]

Hey, did u resolve this issue? I am facing the same issue. 🥲 thanks

[@kgumthorn]

I have no activate Navigraph cannot set anything saddy.

[@jimsaunders8395]

mine wont go activate when i press route at around 3min 44 secs , ive followed to a tee , any ideas please

[@aplaceinthesky82]

I don't know why but when I do the Ils the plane does not completely align with the runway

[@captainhorn23]

Probably a bug in the sim currently. An update comes out today that will hopefully fix some of the A/P bugs!

[@youhengchen9675]

Why does your CJ4 look nothing like mine

[@benread8299]

Why don’t I get the purple lines when I activate the route? I just have a yellow one

[@luisneto120]

Hey, did u resolve this issue? I am facing the same issue. 🥲 thanks

[@juanda680]

Thanks man