FlightFactor Boeing 777-200ER V2 | First Look by a Real 737 Captain | X-Plane 12

[@ArrRoh]

This has to be one of the funnest streams ever. Love the purser’s attitude & sass!

[@340ACP]

Looks fantastic, lots of great memories watching this of my 12 years of flying that fantastic aircraft! Can’t wait to see the final version…X-Plane 12 looks great too!

[@lj5632]

Amazing. Looks like it's running in real time, no youtube compression? Clear and smoothThx.

[@flightdeck2sim]

Thank you! It’s a fine line between quality and performance and after years of tweaking I think I’ve got the right balance to ensure it looks great and most importantly smooth with no stutters! Appreciate this feedback 😊 FD2S

[@umi3017]

One thing I love and hate FF is these crew/equipment functions, they can be fun and immersive when working and you are doing normal flight, but can also be frustration when you want just quickly load on the runway and say test flight some parameter with certain load, or in your case, set a replay... Hope it can be made an option to disable all these function and able to quickly set load/condition.

[@slipperfruit]

if u wanna do that why not just use the 12 year old 777 v1

[@samuelsmith2112]

Looks like their 777 v2 is going to be a major game changer

[@flightdeck2sim]

Far exceeded my expectations, so much modelled! Looking forward to doing many more virtual sectors!

[@samuelsmith2112]

@@flightdeck2sim What’s your expectations for PMDG? Looks like everyone is expecting that to be the winner

[@flightdeck2sim]

@@samuelsmith2112 it will be really good, PMDG products are. If the 777 for the MSFS has the same features as the 737 they’re going to full short on the Flight Factor 777. The FF has so much modelled, 1000’s of failures, most of which seem to be linked to the NNC in the EICAS, the additional features such as walk around, the engineering features in the FMC, the ground and cabin crew interaction and I’m just scratching the surface. We’ll have to wait and see what PMDG has produced, looking forward to trying it out!

[@medwaystudios]

major sim changer :)

[@saren6538]

@@flightdeck2simcan’t Believe we could be preferring this over the pmdg how cool would that be

[@Rhamses220]

Ive been loving flying the 777v2, it’s already in a state that has me inclined to ignore the PMDG 777!

[@samuelsmith2112]

The flightfactor 777 got moderate buzz online but the buzz for PMDG us humongous

[@darren_anscombe]

If we've learned anything from this last week it's "keep your seatbelts fastened loosely at all times, even when not instructed"

[@flightdeck2sim]

“even if the seatbelt sign is off I’d recommend you do what we do up front and that’s keep your seatbelt securely fastened, primarily for your comfort but most importantly for your safety”

[@FlySeboFly]

77L Freighter Pilot here. Sounds are really good, almost gives me work anciety…

[@ajf1989]

This is what will end up making me upgrade to XP12

[@megabitegaming9655]

i have been so happy to see this aircraft sounds and looks fantastic can not wait

[@palopo-t3v]

"No more than 20º" that's a 737 thing. We don't have that on the 777. Pitch up as much as you need to keep V2-V2+15. It's a powerful airplane. (Ex-ryr colleague now EK)

[@ysfsim]

The lead dev for Flight Factor when to get his 777 type rating for this plane

[@ChaseB1896]

Yet he can't even add VNAV. Thankfully PMDG is releasing theirs soon fully featured.

[@LightChopAhead]

@@ChaseB1896 Hence why it's in Alpha. They have been very transparent on there not being VNAV implemented yet. The whole point of testing without VNAV is so other issues are ironed out before release.

[@Cac340]

@@ChaseB1896It wont release without VNAV. It's an ALPHA thats being tested by some chosen customers to find other issues before the implementation of VNAV. If you care for PMDG more it would be wise to not comment on such videos if you don't have the facts.

[@flightdeck2sim]

I’m Type rated on the 737, am I meant to know how to program it on a PC!?

[@skkho1204]

@@flightdeck2sim ...yes 😁

[@tomango3]

What an amazing landing. That's the biggest 🦀 I've seen in awhile during the finals. Right on the center line after touched down too.

[@nicozika]

this plane looked amazing!!!! Will get back into XP12 just to be able to fly this. on an unrelated question, in what situations would you use the ILS or VOR modes on the EFIS panel?

[@flightdeck2sim]

It sure is looking good! Realistically only with an FMC failure, some operators might want flight crew using it but I've never used the modes in the real aircraft. FD2S

[@sechi7239]

We actually don’t select flight control synoptics on for the Before Taxi CL as we are not allowed to rely on it for operational decisions. I am unsure if that CL item is even part of the Boeing standard config. If there is a problem with flight controls it will display as an alert message on the EICAS.

[@flightdeck2sim]

Understood! Makes sense, our NG’s don’t have the flight control option on the MFD but then again it doesn’t have FBW. What do you think of the FF 777? FD2S

[@sechi7239]

@@flightdeck2sim I don't have the luxury of being among the testers, but I have to say it looks quite impressive. I see how it could be a great supplement to pilots outside the formal FFS environment. For me it is mostly about the failures and how accurately the NNC integrate with the onboard systems so I am looking forward to have a first hand look at it!

[@Orange.C.1122]

OMG that’s great! Can’t wait to fly it😍

[@noahglavan]

17:00 For the hydraulics you have to set the right one first, and then you wait for the fault light to be off, and then you turn all the hydraulics. 43:20 And also for starting the engine, when you start the engine you immediately put the fuel on without monitoring N2.

[@flightdeck2sim]

Will try to remember that! The latter is from 13 years on the 73 😅 FD2S

[@noah9130]

@@flightdeck2sim The 777 for me is like an Airbus really

[@ArrRoh]

Q - in normal ops with VNAV, would you still calculate a rough TOD and then compare that to VNAV? Or just rely on the green TOD marker?

[@Chrisp707-]

Hopefully this is better than their 767/757 in terms of bugs. Because the amount of bugs with those aircraft at any given time has completely burned me from qanted to touch flight factor anymore.

[@randreas69]

How come they must re-adress the VNAV for each aircraft? Excuse my ignorance but I thought it was just a navigation think and it should come naturally in the autopilot (reduce the throttle and enjoy the ride).

[@vjc3818]

I don't think you understand how complicated even simple autopilots are

[@Cac340]

To my knowledge VNAV has to factor in so many different things such as weather, weight and obviously restrictions. So programming all of that is a lot of work.

[@prachuryyabaruah6551]

VNAV is deeply rooted in thrust handling and different autopilot modes with aircraft performance which change for every aircraft.

[@flightdeck2sim]

Cannot put it any better than the existing comments. Its extremely complicated in function 👍🏻 FD2S

[@eugeniodlasaguas2852]

Hi Captn, hope all is ok. I enjoyed this video. Thank you for being a reliable source. Can you please share the settings of your Boeing Thrustmaster yoke and quadrant? I have done everything possible to set mine but I can't use it 100% like the zibo. Thank you very much, appreciated. Hugs!

[@weswheel4834]

41:15 - "It's a full damage model ... I'm barely scratching the surface" nice ;D

[@samuelsmith2112]

You’re a 737 pilot. Which sim 737 do you prefer- the Zibo mod or PMDG?

[@Taylor314T5]

Speaking on his behalf, as he’s answered this a time or two before haha. Both models are great. The ZIBO in XPlane tends to feel more accurate in terms of flight dynamics, especially on take off and landing. That said, the PMDG is great, and offers a lot in terms of system depth, and offers more failures than the ZIBO, plus has the benefit of the visual feast that is MSFS. But both are great, and for most summers, they’ll be happy with whichever they choose to fly. Or do as he does, fly both and enjoy them for what they each offer.

[@Scarebus_Driver]

As ive raised on the FF discord this looks to have great potential. However it really seems like a 767/777 blend of procedures rather than being a true 777. Things like “procedures” are not on the ECL only checklist items. Things like a purser call as well when in reality you have the “cabin ready” indication which is triggered by the purser when the cabin is ready again is more 767 than pure 777. Once Vnav is implemented will be the true test of how this 777 will stand up. One thing i really dislike is having things like the before taxi procedure into the electronic checklist which does not exist in reality. Procedures are done from memory by the crew on command OR when obvious ie Captain calls ground equipment clear. Putting non existent things into a very clean checklist to cater for simmers to me is a major poece of inaccuracy. CLB/Con should be done automatically based on perf info you program in. Likewise in an engine failure it auto select con after clean up at accel altitude. Good stream flying the 777 mate im keen to see how this comes along as it looks pretty solid.

[@housamhammoud9399]

Can you post the link for the livery?

[@F105Thundr]

Does the A/C really look like that or are you running something to keep the cockpit so light? Xplane 12 is so dark? What FPS were you averaging? Thanks for this vid!!

[@flightdeck2sim]

No mods, I think FF have adjusted the cockpit lighting to accommodate the very dark cockpits experienced at the moment. I get no performance issues, 60fps (capped by NVIDIA). Cheers! FD2S

[@elad12345]

What is the name of the plugin at the top of the screen that shows information about the flight?

[@WingITFlightSim]

Where are the checklists??

[@valentinflorinmihu147]

How to set reverse ?

[@weswheel4834]

Not flying Alpaca airlines, apparently the pilot gets bored halfway though the walkaround :D (although tbf, this was an Emirates pilot, always thought they were a bit dodgy (football reference)).

[@niemand6594]

Do I have to be worried about the FPS? In FF767 I get about 30-40

[@Cac340]

fps is better than in the 76/75

[@flightdeck2sim]

No performance issues for me personally 👍🏻 FD2S

[@dgillphotos]

I have the FF 767 and 757 and they both have bugs. I like them but the bugs make them unrealistic. I hope this one is different.

[@LeRafale]

I have the FF767, GOD DAMN it's so sensitive! I'm only flying on the ToLiss A346 for now.

[@BassRab]

Is there any other way of getting this addon wothout paying 777.200$?

[@BA_380]

You’ll have to wait for beta to release when that is out, everyone will be able to purchase it

[@samuelsmith2112]

I noticed I can do barrel rolls with airliners in X plane Are the airliners designed to fly like fighters or is the flight model in X plane really really off?

[@flightdeck2sim]

You can easily barrel roll a commercial airliner, the XP flight model is extremely good at replicating aircraft handling thanks to blade element theory. May I share with you this famous video 🙂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJLCnJuer9p5oqcsi=d4LO4B4X8AWttbQG FD2S

[@samuelsmith2112]

@@flightdeck2sim So who has the more accurate flight model MSFS or x plane

[@OninDynamics]

​@@samuelsmith2112 I vaguely remember Twkster (Zibomod physics guy)'s answer to a question similar to that. He talked about a few things, most of which I've probably forgotten already, but here's a lil' inaccurate summary: (NOTE: This was written before MSFS2020's announcement) The realism of a flight model is almost 100% dictated not by the simulator, but whoever is unlucky enough to be the one making the flight model. FSX's lookup table makes it easy to create a passable simulation, but more difficult to make a truly authentic "feel" of the plane. X-Plane's Blade Element Theory makes it difficult to create even basic simulations, but (relatively) loads easier to create nigh-exact to real life simulations. However, Twkster mentioned how Blade Element Theory is akin to "learning the violin"; e.g. one cannot plug values in and it immediately being accurate, but will require "practice" and back-and-forth between X-Plane and PlaneMaker/AirfoilEditor. or something like that, idk "🤓"

[@LeRafale]

​@@samuelsmith2112X-Plane, not even close.

[@pedromedina2159]

what addon are u using for pushback

[@mcaviator4585]

This is part of the 777 v2 dlc

[@fathinasri7798]

starting a 777 engine very easy, turn engine start switches to start and just run the fuel control immediately because 777 have an autostart mode.

[@flightdeck2sim]

13 years of starting a 737 haha! Will do next time 👍🏻

[@dominickolsteeg7657]

Hi captain. Would love to know how this is to fly compare to the 789? I know it’s in Alpha but just curious as these are the newer wide bodies. Also the 777 has a lot more automation than I thought too. I can’t wait to try it Awesome stream as allways

[@milenalight4850]

Hello there! Great video!:) Could u tell me pleace your FOV values.Thank you so much!!!

[@frandxaviation5115]

Hopefully they fix the FMC features. It misses Vnav completly.

[@flightdeck2sim]

Those features are yet to be added 👍🏻

[@will6287]

PMDG is going to be nervous...

[@Hanslims]

PMDG was watching and will soon announce that they will have to delay the release by 1 year...

[@CaptainEvillian]

I don't think so, the MSFS market is way bigger and the modeling will look better.

[@LeRafale]

​@@CaptainEvillian Nah. You don't even know what you are talking about.

[@arane7197]

@@LeRafale nah hes right the modelling on the pmdg 777 will look better such as cockpit and exterior due to msfs engine, but there's no way I can imagine pmdg having as many features as the ff777, even in alpha and currently without vnav the ff777 looks better imo

[@LeRafale]

@@arane7197 True

[@Transformersgirl]

Next time you fly this do failures bird strike on takeoff

[@flightdeck2sim]

Heard good things about that one haha! FD2S

[@robpilling9494]

hi captain.

[@monteirojunior26678]

ryzen 9 7950x core i9 14900ks rtx 4090 ti

[@pilotpawanc]

Somehow I don't like the cockpit color in this one....one of the biggest reason it's not part of my consideration

[@flightdeck2sim]

I personally like it, the 777 has always had that yucky brown colour! FD2S

[@frankbyte]

Now imagine someone will not get that absolutey insanely simulated addon just because of the...cockpit color?! LOL. The flightsim community never ceases to amaze me.

[@vg6761]

Same with me. The seats and cabin also don't really look like the renders they showed us.