FLIPSKY 75100 PRO V2 UNBOXING. Game Changer for EBikes in 2024!

[@EBikeBuilder_]

I’ve made an UPDATED VIDEO here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXrYoX5smtiBfMU with JST connector to simplify the wiring, check that one out 🎉

[@Bengy22]

You will make a lot of BBSHD owners happy with this video, I know a lot of people have been waiting for a good video showcasing how to connect a vesc controller to the bbshd

[@EBikeBuilder_]

it would probably be super easy to set up like a dream with a hub motor. But yeah!! I am going to run it through the gauntlet with the BBSHD. If you heard any Pro Strats about tuning it Lmk, I am just going at it blind, I toned it down by adjusting the ADC throttle curve So its exponential and it doesnt jerk hard at the start, Then when you start to get into the throttle it Rips Lol. But theres probably some way to program the motor to spin slower at startup, regardless of the throttle settings, idk? Im curious about your vesc settings if you have them on any BBSHDs, seems like my sensorless stuff could use some work , I mean i think im running like the default large inrunner settings?? and i was riding it around today, even the first try with some generic tune it works OK i was really impressed. If i mess around with the throttle input deadband and set it really low like 1% it acts like virtual electronic freewheeling. But yeah lots of Dinking around to be done Lol

[@SilverShadow2LWB]

@@EBikeBuilder_ Thanks for the very informative video. You explain everything well. You would do well if you got a camera that will shoot some macro. Is this comparable to a sine wave controller?

[@MrTimmmers]

I had a parrot that repeated the same thing less than you do.

[@stevecumming6427]

He repeats things & slowly they sink into my thick skull. 😂

[@reyaz8531]

Great video!

[@pcparlor]

Damn near left after the third time he said speed controller

[@Anonymous-jm3mg]

Maybe you're not worth talking to much.

[@ZaneCovey-z8n]

This could have been a 15 min video haha

[@maximumchargeEV]

Thank god you got into flipsky stuff. I've been looking at this stuff for MONTHS but no good videos for ebikes and these controllers. They really need to step up with with their display game too. I know people typically use these for electric skateboards though.

[@Slow_PEV]

You are everywhere I look 😅

[@maximumchargeEV]

@@Slow_PEV soon to be in your dreams! haha

[@EBikeBuilder_]

Ill show how to hook VESC up to CYCLE ANALYST in a video soon , i think that’s the way to go for a display !! 👍👍 I’m using it in my most recent mtb bbshd videos . Works great Its just that grin tech only provides the technical information and it even took me some digging to understand what needs to be done. Stay tuned Bros 🫡😎🚵🚴🙏👨‍🏭🎉

[@chesteryao]

Hell yeah! I've been working on kt controllers and sabvotons, but i want something smaller. I been searching Flipsky but don't have the confidence on tuning it. Your video is very helpful. Can't wait to see you get on rippin. Thank you for the video.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

i got it Rippin today Bud !! final cut pro is churning out the video as we Speak Lol It works pretty good, the BBSHD tune is still under progress Lol. But for 100 Bucks its very exciting and very promsing!! thanks for following along!!

[@NoInfoFound]

Thanks for the intro to the Flipsky to BBSHD configuration. It should help a lot of people. Interesting 'hiding in a bomb shelter' look of the outro.

[@joeberginc7415]

I also build ebikes. I have 4 awd diy full suspension mtn bikes. I like how you go thru things clearly.

[@instarx]

Very useful. Thanks. But really, do you have to repeat everything 3 or 4 times?

[@EBikeBuilder_]

@@instarx I’ve made an updated video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXrYoX5smtiBfMU that may Or may not feature me repeating myself less. Im not a professional orator and speaker unfortunately but thanks for the input I’ll try not to do that in the future

[@mickgatz214]

I get all excited when people do DETAILED UN-BOXIINGS!!! 😂 (but it was informative) 😉👍

[@Timbodacious]

Been seeing these on alibaba for a few years but didnt like the lack of controller screen and the bird nest of wires. Maybe v3 will clean it all up and make it look like a small 25a kt controller with waterproof plugs

[@EBikeBuilder_]

yeah it does look like a rats nest I dont htink its meant to be hanging out , I have tucked it away inside a folding bike. as It has been quite wet lately Lol

[@jamesgaspar8710]

I had the same initial problems as you did, running a 72v battery gave a fault when running motor detection until I raised the volt limits to 84v. Your vid help solve that issue.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

hey, glad i could help mate, i thought it was unusual how its a 72v controller but they have that voltage set so low.

[@stevemusgrave3218]

Hi I am seriously considering the 75100 pro v2. Is it reliable? Is flipsky better than the makerbase? Thanks!

[@EBikeBuilder_]

havent tried the makerbase, ive heard its similar, it looks exactly the same physically, Lol. Im not sure about makerbase. but i've just bought another one of these Flipsky controllers myself. and I am gonna do yet another bafang hub motor setup video soon with it

[@stevemusgrave3218]

K great! I believe the swagtron eb 6 I bought has the bafang geared hub motor. I will hook up the makerbase or the flipsky to it so I'm sure your video will be helpful!

[@stevemusgrave3218]

Did u find the flipsky reliable?

[@ChrisB...]

Down the rabbit hole, I've been looking for a new controller for my old Cyclone 3K build and I think this might be it. Thanks for the info!

[@EBikeBuilder_]

for the price its been fun to play around with and experiment, its a pretty powerful controller. Compared to a typical square waave ebike controller that might cost 50 to 100. This isnt much more than that. And does FOC and is pretty powerful. More than most ebikes need

[@shootflowpictures4408]

What charge 84.5V? Do you want destroy your battery? 84V is the absolute maximum for 72V L-Ion battery

[@EBikeBuilder_]

Its just a number to tell Flipsky what the voltage limit is; i want it slightly higher than a full charge voltage , so u don’t trip the high voltage fault

[@juliusdades1426]

How did you know which phasewires is which color as the controller shows all of being black color? Does it have a label on it?

[@FlockofSmeagles]

the way you connect the phases from motor to flipsky doesn't matter, just make sure when you connect them or change the order of them, you re-do the Motor Setup so it can learn the phases. - EBikeBuilder

[@asian_raisin]

It doesn't matter which 3 wires you use. It's either forward or backwards. You can change the direction in the app or you can just swap 2 wires around to change direction.

[@calpispop]

Capri 20011 Automatic Wire Stripper, best 20 bucks I've spent to strip wires. Harbor Freight has a pittsburgh version for 5 bucks cheaper and they're pretty much identical. Gave the HF one to my buddy after checking to see if they were the same. They do 10-24awg.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

I have a klein tool but only goes down to 22awg, i rarely work with these tiny signal wires i think these were 24 or 26. Thanks for that suggestion i could use some that go smaller like that.

[@mitchellwilson12354]

Just a note, some throttles do use a 5v supply (including mine).

[@EBikeBuilder_]

good to know

[@dalehall3110]

Why does the motor sound so choppy, not smooth? Almost like the halls aren't right. On that note, can you run it sensorless? Been wanting to get some knowledge on the VESC because I have a Luna Ludicrous that haven't been able to get going. Thanks for the clear, concise video, should help a lot of people!!

[@EBikeBuilder_]

not Sure Thats what im trying to figure out, its my first time using all this jazz

[@paullaws3889]

Yes you can use sensor less. I installed this on my Ryobi 48v riding mower and didn’t hook up hall sensors and it works great.

[@emilhadz941]

Hi, I followed the tutorial and did everything but around 800 watts at a high ish rpm it starts cogging and gives a over current abs error. Why could this be? Someone help pls

[@CHEHOV44]

please one more time " very excited "

[@MrLarry-gr8]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 How are you going to do the 3 mode switching? mode 1 - Eco, mode 2 - Norm, mode 3 - Sport. Does it work like that? I'm not sure so I'm asking.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

i think there is somethjing called Profiles in vesc? i have not explored that yet. But i think its possible within the app

[@bentonpix]

Great video! I'm assuming that it does not matter what color wires hook up to the 3 phase wires on the FLIPSKY since all three are black on the FLIPSKY?

[@EBikeBuilder_]

motor setup figures it out. Just make sure if you ever disconnect or change the wires, run the motor setup to learn the motor phases again

[@bentonpix]

@@EBikeBuilder_ Thanks! It baffled me at first.

[@bentonpix]

@@EBikeBuilder_ So if I remove the battery, I'll need to run the VESC setup again?

[@angusmcgil]

was the usb C socket just for PC connection or does it support full VESC Express

[@paulpostel9721]

The flipskys phase wires are all black can you help me with the color orientation from left to right. I have a picture that looks like it's blue, yellow green but in your video you have yellow green blue. Thanks EB

[@EBikeBuilder_]

the way you connect the phases from motor to flipsky doesn't matter, just make sure when you connect them or change the order of them, you re-do the Motor Setup so it can learn the phases.

[@rufusirvin5279]

Sounds great from an experimental point but until proven over time may not be a good choice. The 75100 is known to over heat plus not waterproof and exposed wiring. I am hooking one to the Fat All Axel when I get it. I need more amperage than the Phaserunner for my AWD motorcycle. Does 75100 have virtual freewheeling and other features the Phaserunner has? Setting up virtual freewheeling takes the kick out of the Bafang at startup.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

i was able to get vesc it to virtual freewheel by setting the deadband to like 1 or 2%. Might have something to do with how ive set my throttle voltages as well, idk. For the purposes of my g62 or bbshd, the 75100 seems to be OK heat wise. its been about 70F out side and the controller mounted to down tube was like 34C etc, i put it inside the frame of my folding bike (no airflow) and it warms up to like the 45C to 50C range, But i never saw it get much warmer than that. Im sure there are better vesc controllers than the 75100, But for the price its been fun to fiddle around with

[@jornmulder]

can i connect it on my 2000w direct drive hub rear motor ? julet cables :S and you got a video of how to do that with the cables ? i got a yellow triangle 3 wire power cable to my motor..

[@EBikeBuilder_]

Its basically the 3 phase wires to the motor is all you need, and it can run in sensorless, if your motor has hall sensors then you want those there will be 3 as well. But i would not use the L1019 connector like i have, it has amp limitations , i think it does aboyt 45 amps continuously . Id just hook the phase wires from the motor directly to the flipsky phase wires . These motor cable connectors can be nice but have limitations. I think there are some connectors made for phasewires i forget what they are called though. I think there are 3-pin XT90 connectors and stuff that could be used as connectors for the phase wires

[@jornmulder]

@@EBikeBuilder_ maybe i go for a fardriver.

[@jornmulder]

a bit more easy i think

[@KingKola01]

Hey fam, how familiar are you with the vesc app? So ever since i put a dual battery system on my ebike i occasionally get over voltage fault code when i twist the throttle from a dig, it seems to me it has something to do with the adc 1 start voltage or something but i'm not sure. Is that a problem you've come across before?

[@EBikeBuilder_]

I’ve noticed with the dual battery combiners when you let off the throttle, the voltage jumps for some reason… i Have a bike with a dual battery combiner and some times the voltage goes way higher than a 48v battery should

[@stevecumming6427]

Well alright! 🙏 wish I'd watched this before ordering a 75100 Pro with no start switch. Not sure how you got the button & key switch & 2 Flipsky Controllers. Great score for $100. Guess I need to return the 75100 Pro & get a Pro V2 with the key on off switch

[@EBikeBuilder_]

There was a deal on Amazon 100 instead of 120. But on the flipsky website they do the 100$ deal all the time it seems like. So they must add amazon tax. Try my direct link to FLIPSKY with a 10$ off code EBB and it helps out the channel. flipsky.net/products/flipsky-75100-pro-v2-0-with-aluminum-pcb-based-on-vesc-for-electric-skateboard-scooter-ebike-speed-controller?ref=ltwzpbbx

[@EBikeBuilder_]

I think if you order out with the key, it comes with the switch also, apparently, unless there was some error with my Amazon order.

[@stevecumming6427]

​@@EBikeBuilder_watched your unboxing again & studied the Pro version received for $99. Flipsky had it for $92 but then $21 for shipping. I see one bag was the key switch & voltmeter. I want that as my eBike has no key switch now & was supposed to turn off with the Heybike App not 🚫 wanted for an annual fee. SMH

[@stevecumming6427]

Looked on Amazon again & $99 for Pro, Pro V2 with a start button $125 & Pro V2 with a key switch / volt meter $130. Does the push button for on & off like a toggle switch on a 5v twist throttle? Red wire #1 & thumb throttle red wire #2 for 3.3v right?

[@stevecumming6427]

​​@@EBikeBuilder_hey I just bought a Pro V2 with the key switch & the EBB discount code worked & it was $118 with USPS Registered shipping to ensure delivery. 👍👍

[@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes]

Let me know if need help to tune better and improve throttle response/power ramp up

[@Sword-of-Christ-Ministries]

I felt like I was watching Sesame street when you were counting the plugs on that controller...

[@noce1071]

The 75100 didn't come with a key and volt meter. plus, it has an anti spark switch. The V2 is a big improvement.

[@jornmulder]

did you try fardriver controller ?

[@EBikeBuilder_]

i have not tried a fardriver controller, there are also Sabvotons, those 2 i have not tried. I hear a lot of people have Sabvotons blow up and stop working. The fardriver looks nice for motorcycles but doesnt have ebike stuff.

[@jornmulder]

@@EBikeBuilder_ fardriver is way better then sabvotons

[@guysgt5003]

I used this already and it blew up the first day! I am doing the 200 amp and I don’t think it’s gonna last much longer either. It’s only four days old.

[@Ebike_Adventures]

So what's the safe operating amperage? Was that 200 peak or continuous amperage?

[@julirichmond3]

Pedal assist?

[@EBikeBuilder_]

@@julirichmond3 right now not a super great PAS option in vesc. It exists in vesc, but the behavior is not ideal. its very limited and increases the power based on how fast you are pedaling , i did a video where’s i tried it. And i didn’t like it. It felt like Sonic the Hedgehog PAS. So then i had a video where i was working on a pedal assist script with a quadrature pas sensor. I had the script working pretty well conceptually, but then i got stuck at the part where it actually needed to spin the motor, couldn’t get it spinning smoothly. I’ve made some progress with that lately, so i will have to pick back Up now that I’ve figured out how to spin the motor with a script.

[@gianlui9627]

So fare quasi tutto di quello che tu hai visto ho visto l'unica cosa che non riesco a fare è mettere il sensore di pedalata tu c'hai un sistema grazie

[@captainflannel8558]

servo wires? what would they use a servo on a ebike for?

[@BrigiMiller]

These are built to also use in large scale remote control hobby vehicles

[@EBikeBuilder_]

the controller itself isnt Just for ebikes , its based on vesc

[@Hybrid600]

Are you using PAS with it?

[@EBikeBuilder_]

Im not, havent looked into that yet, there is a PAS section in the VESC Tool app, so VESC must support PAS in some way, Im not sure about the flipsky and how PAS would be wired up, i imagine into that big connector along with the throttle

[@nlieber]

I subscribed for the content. I get a kick out of when you sound like the SNL copier guy.

[@oldmanwithebike]

I liked and subscribed.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

@@oldmanwithebike thanks mate I appreciate that!! Stay tuned i am working on vesc scripting right now!

[@MarkPesell]

amazon just delivered it woohoo

[@MarkPesell]

lol 4 months later its in the bomber. just ran the bike for the first time. Its good that i had the app and win app cause vesc-project went down last night. my luck

[@nicod974]

''vesc it up'' should be in the urban dictionary by now...👍

[@captainchedo3592]

Hope you do a follow-up.. ride 🚲 💨

[@EBikeBuilder_]

yes For sure. I got it rippin and took it for a ride. the video is saving. and ill upload it. and itll be up saturday asap

[@Ostenmaster122]

Can this ESC drive sensorless motors?

[@DipendraGurungNepal]

Yes!

[@modelsfirst]

Does it work with Mid drive motors ?

[@BrigiMiller]

That what he is using in the video

[@modelsfirst]

@@BrigiMiller Yeah I saw later on in the video, I should have waited before commenting lol

[@katherinecreamer9039]

Definitely watch on 1.5x

[@papap.8006]

You get both

[@theejoeylee]

100 amps!!! Most ebike batterys will catch fire under that discharge rate. I hope you can program it to limit the current.

[@Timbodacious]

Phase amps so 50 normal amps

[@EBikeBuilder_]

most ebike batteries have a BMS with x amps max discharge cut off. So it should just cut off not start a fire. Most normal ebikes dont come with batteries that can be used with better controllers, you are correct, they are fairly low discharge like 30 amps

[@EBikeBuilder_]

and yes you can program it to limit the current For sure , motor/phase amps, battery amps, total current etc

[@theejoeylee]

@@EBikeBuilder_ awesome. Not bad for the price. I have a generic 15 amp scooter controller. Has a ton of plugs I don't need. This might be the answer

[@mickmarcec9118]

How long take it to open box

[@epmpartner]

it is actualy very expencive for power delivered,very complicated setup for beginers, and does not come with all standard functionalities

[@EBikeBuilder_]

Yeah i would agree its not for beginners and does not have standard ebike functionality built in, currently

[@papap.8006]

Ok go ahead and open it

[@RastaOnABike]

i like your channel, similar to mine

[@jacobclark89]

I don't like thumb throttles ,If the thumb throttle gets stuck you crash , ☠️

[@redreefbud]

If you have break hooked to adc2, it disables throttle when you hit brake 😉 i have been using vesc for over 5 years. Nothing new besides the model

[@jacobclark89]

@@redreefbud good point, do you know anything about variable Regen braking ?

[@redreefbud]

@@jacobclark89 yeah, you can set the brakes to as strong as you need but only set the regen to what your battery can handle 😉 maximum charge rate. And will have to go by BMS regen if you have bms in there. But if you are using a bike wheel with a freewheel sprocket it won't work. Has to be a solid mount sprocket like dirt bike wheel. I ride electric mountain board daily as transportation and use spur gear drives with 6374 motors. This eliminates any need for brakes. All in the electric motor. Check out trampa boards if interested in that stuff 😁

[@redreefbud]

The vesc soaks up any extra energy between brake rate and charge rate and turns it to heat. These vesc in metal cases are great for this type of stuff

[@patrickoneill1011]

FLIPSKY makerz of FLIPPERZero? 🤣

[@TK-OK]

🙏 🙏 🙏

[@trsdamocles]

looks like a wiring nightmare

[@EBikeBuilder_]

I agree Its not Pretty !

[@GOOGLE-ADMlN]

Not called Flip Sky its FLIPSKI.

[@lewebvirtuel9503]

Vesc is best with one wheel or hydrofoil base project; for any ebike "boost" or e-brake vs regen it's very complicated to setup thoses "clone Vesc hardware" to match the ebike connection without signal draining the low side.. MakerBase Flipsky same hardware base, same firmware problem; everyone cloning vesc hardware is one way or another failing. BE AWARE EDUCATE yourself don't buy thoses you will trash your money along side the road....

[@scotty362100]

Damn bro - nice videos, but please train yourself to only say things ONE TIME, and not 10 different variations of the same thing - please.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

Ikr

[@Mr504]

Ffs get on with the unboxing so we can see what it is

[@guysgt5003]

Tooooo small to change anything

[@qibble455]

The editing wasn't infuriating at all

[@truthslayerone264]

You jabber too much

[@whitefeatherslinger8194]

Very hard look ,5mins before we even see the module the voice man work on less talking sorry can't listen anymore and I Wana know about the controller ✌️I'm out🥱

[@EBikeBuilder_]

some things in life take more than 5 minutes Bro

[@pcparlor]

Flip ski would be ski not sky

[@virgiloco5078]

🙏🙏🙏