Flite Test | Servos 101

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@firstnamelastname4494
@firstnamelastname4494 9 жыл бұрын
Good job Peter! I learned more about servos in 20 mins than I have in 2 years.
@afterdeth
@afterdeth 9 жыл бұрын
So glad you guys keep putting out videos. You're such a help to people just starting to get into the hobby, keep up the good work, and get Peter to do more in-depth technical walkthroughs, it's awesome!
@manicdee983
@manicdee983 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome instructional video. The Q&A style presentation was great, basically asking the same questions I was interested in asking myself! Peter did not go too deeply into any one topic and covered a great range of knowledge. I especially appreciated the testing jigs for torque, speed, and browning out.
@DobyxRC
@DobyxRC 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool episode. In 25 years I have only taken apart a servo 3 times and each time I frown and toss it in the garbage, this helps me make sense of these wonderful little devices. Thank you for this video!
@NettAirLa
@NettAirLa 9 жыл бұрын
one of the best episodes I've seen (I like breaking stuff down and figuring out how it works). Little Bits are awesome, my 5 year old daughter received a set last year for Christmas and loves them.
@crossthreadaeroindustries8554
@crossthreadaeroindustries8554 8 жыл бұрын
All your vids are great and this type of video has its special place. From a techy perspective, one of the best - answers many many questions quickly. Reviews of multicopter controller boards and other components would be appreciated! Thanks, guys.
@bigbuckoramma
@bigbuckoramma 9 жыл бұрын
Wow, awesome video. Super informative. I honestly think this is one of the best educational videos you have ever done. Eric made it that much more engaging by being genuinely curious. Really well done. Thanks for that.
@Acula33RC
@Acula33RC 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and very informative. I've been flying for some time now and this video helped me understand more about servos and thier operation. I love Peters graphs and displays. I'm a visual learner and that helps me out tremendously. Great video fellas!
@Zxenmusic
@Zxenmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys. This is the only useful servo explanatory video I've seen - and I've seen scores of them. You have answered all my questions. Thank you!
@pjwlk
@pjwlk 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fantastic video! I've learned a lot from you two. I'm just getting into the hobby now and every little bit helps. You've inspired me put together a better power supply setup that will prevent the servos from browning out the receiver power in the event of low battery and/or overload. Cheers!
@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346
@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346 5 жыл бұрын
This Is One of The Most Informative Videos That Flite Test Has Produced & I Have Watched Nearly The Last 7 years Worth Totally! Soo Thanks & Keep Up The Great Jobs Guys!!!
@RCPrairieFlyyer
@RCPrairieFlyyer 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Peter and Eric. Lots of information to absorb and basically love what you guys do!
@TheAdambausch
@TheAdambausch 9 жыл бұрын
Every question I had as a beginner to understanding what a servo is, was asked and answered in that episode!! Great work!!!!
@incubrian
@incubrian 9 жыл бұрын
oh my god, i have been doing this for 15 years, and man, THIS is the video i have been waiting for!! seriously, what an amazing job you guys did on this! please do a servos 102, 201, 301, i will watch all of them :) love this!
@joelsterling3735
@joelsterling3735 8 жыл бұрын
Make more videos! I am so impressed. Never have I ever come across a video that actually explained everything that I had questions about. Very thorough...just the way I like it.
@rcflight13
@rcflight13 9 жыл бұрын
Learnt from experience to always pay extra and get metal gear servos, that way they won't strip and when move up you can just take all your electronics with you. Best servos for acro I've used so far are the Corona 929MG. Excellent upgrade just to replace the standard 9g servos most planes seem to use these days are dirt cheap ($5.50 per unit from Hobby King).
@zoltanguitar
@zoltanguitar 9 жыл бұрын
Great overview - Thanks for taking so much time to put such a comprehensive tutorial together.
@pspeijer
@pspeijer 9 жыл бұрын
Well done flitetest, very educational, entertaining and simple to understand. As a experienced pilot, i really enjoyed this video. Keep on going guys !!!!
@tiagopadua
@tiagopadua 9 жыл бұрын
Actually the torque is the same, no matter the length of the servo arm. It's the FORCE applied that changes. The torque is a fixed number for the servo.
@44R0Ndin
@44R0Ndin 9 жыл бұрын
Tiago de Pádua Correct. Torque = force * lever length. Okay, technically the lever length is called "moment arm" or something like that, but I'm keeping it simple so non-nerds can understand it better.
@SuperLoopholes
@SuperLoopholes 9 жыл бұрын
44R0Ndin Let's try working that formula with actual numbers. force * lever length = torque 5 *10 = 50 5 * 20 = 100 Looks like torque changes when you change the lever length even though the force stayed consistent.
@44R0Ndin
@44R0Ndin 9 жыл бұрын
SuperLoopholes Exactly as I expected. Of course, if you hold torque constant in the equation, shorter lever arms apply more force. torque = force * lever length 2 oz-in = 0.5 oz, 4 inch arm. 2 oz-in = 1 oz, 2 inch arm. 2 oz-in = 2 oz, 1 inch arm Mechanical advantage. It's all about ratios.
@SuperLoopholes
@SuperLoopholes 9 жыл бұрын
This is reminding me of ohm's law. Which makes sense because it's a similar 3 variable formula.
@azgarogly
@azgarogly 9 жыл бұрын
SuperLoopholes That would be correct if You'd be turning a servo shaft by constant force applied to the lever. Torque would change. In our case servo produces some torque on a shaft, regardless of how long the lever is. And the longer the lever the less force You have on a pushrod and more it travels.
@JD_1
@JD_1 9 жыл бұрын
Very awesome video guys. You guys answered every question i've ever had about servos. Now i have some updating to do on all of my models. Thanks!
@juanandrade9553
@juanandrade9553 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! You guys do a great job on informing us on even the smallest detail and sometime that's exactly what I'm looking for, other channels do a good job but not exactly like you guys! Thank you for you guys taking your time to inform us. I use rc buggies/truggies, but the electronics have the same principles as far as my knowledge 😂
@fr33rid3r33
@fr33rid3r33 9 жыл бұрын
Man this video was amazing, thank you. Its always easy to pay the money to get the better SERVO's, but it is nice to know WHY it is worth spending the extra money. THANK YOU Flight Test Crew!
@jake6087
@jake6087 9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video guys! Learned a lot of things I usually assumed. Some of my assumptions were correct but a lot of things you mentioned I never actually thought about. Thanks FliteTest!
@richard76rama
@richard76rama 9 жыл бұрын
Good Job Peter!! you really are an asset to the flite test team!!
@Williamhenry23
@Williamhenry23 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you FT Crew for the digital vs analog explanation...this very insightful as I am prepping to build my first foam board plane. Thanks again.
@jacknimble1
@jacknimble1 9 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Thanks for the knowledge Peter! I have been flying for a few years now and never knew this stuff.
9 жыл бұрын
Eric and Peter are getting really good, they work really well together. At the moment, best presenter duo in the channel.
@jet_flyer
@jet_flyer 9 жыл бұрын
What about using a capacitor for avoiding brown-outs or at least to help?
@mathlind
@mathlind 9 жыл бұрын
Extremely educational and illustrative demos. Many thanks.
@tindjin07
@tindjin07 9 жыл бұрын
Outstanding, glad you guys have done some more tech style videos like you used to do.
@marcussiostrom3346
@marcussiostrom3346 9 жыл бұрын
Great video, guys! I really liked it. Could you do a similar video on motors? Maybe explain what the numbers mean, how the sizes are specified, brushed vs. brushless, efficiency, KV, and so on. It would be really informative! As always, keep up the good work!
@peterescapement6414
@peterescapement6414 5 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic tutorial - really clear and pitched just right. Thanks.
@YouMockMe
@YouMockMe 9 жыл бұрын
As someone JUST getting into this, THANK YOU for the tutorials!
@raykiii
@raykiii 8 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video very much. Thank you for the information.
@chriscuster3684
@chriscuster3684 9 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. I am ready to start playing with netduino, I will be doing servo projects. This episode helped so much...
@davidgaspar1981
@davidgaspar1981 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this clears lots of question up for me.
@rguptaca
@rguptaca 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome:) At 13:30 with regards to servo speed. The rating is how long to move 60 degrees so LOWER is faster and usually better; not higher.
@jordanh9520
@jordanh9520 7 жыл бұрын
Rav Gupta lots of little bits of misinformation in this video. still really good for anyone with a cursory understanding of physics.
@sailorjohn2224
@sailorjohn2224 9 жыл бұрын
The best show this year!
@richardsailors9762
@richardsailors9762 9 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. Accurate, clear, excellent interchange, please consider teaching as a future career.
@SnapPunchRobert
@SnapPunchRobert 9 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. Very informative and really dig the props to help us understand. Thanks guys.
@stevecomer3908
@stevecomer3908 7 жыл бұрын
Great explaination of how servo's work. Thanks
@kls2020
@kls2020 2 жыл бұрын
Not only informative but presented in a fun, entertaining manner
@SuperLoopholes
@SuperLoopholes 9 жыл бұрын
I liked this. It was more informative than most of the videos I've seen here.
@krikey72
@krikey72 9 жыл бұрын
Great video Guys. Well done Peter, very intuitive.
@ZachRice
@ZachRice 9 жыл бұрын
Peter seems like he was truly in his element in this episode. Awesome presentation!
@grahamgfm
@grahamgfm 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent work guys. Please keep up the good work.
@wiltonsmith3397
@wiltonsmith3397 3 жыл бұрын
“Foot-pounds, inch-pounds, inch-ounces, newton-decameters, etc...”
@jayfromaz
@jayfromaz 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. At the airfield I was asking some of the senior pilots some of these same questions. But they couldn't answer. Now I know. Great video.
@Taskforce1x1
@Taskforce1x1 9 жыл бұрын
Very good information on servos. I love how you bring the science out of these. Great visuals. I see that the analog servos could possibly be the reason for aerolon wing "flutter" I'll switch to digital now. Can you guys explain servo chatter. Ive seen intermittent times where even new servos would humm or chatter on their own while the transmitter control is completely still. What may be causing this to some of my analog new servos?
@Ybw200owns
@Ybw200owns 9 жыл бұрын
ive been in the game for 3 years and learned a few things that have always bothered me from this video, thanks for your work guys =D
@digitexstudios5634
@digitexstudios5634 3 жыл бұрын
Here's some basic Motors 101 for you: There are many types of motors used in almost everything: Brushed motors Coreless motors Induction motors 3-phase motors Brushless motors Synchronous motors Permanent magnet motors Stepper motors Almost every motor has three parts: the stator, the rotor, and the commutator. The stator is the magnet that does not rotate. In a brushed motor, it is just a permanent magnet, as it is in a coreless or a permanent magnet motor. In a brushless motor, an induction motor, a stepper motor, or a synchronous motor, it is a set of coils. The rotor is the rotating element. In coreless motors, the rotor is just a set of coils. In an induction motor, it is the squirrel cage assembly. In a brushed motor or a synchronous motor, it is a set of coils wound on laminated metal. In a brushless motor, a stepper motor, or a permanent magnet motor, the rotor is a permanent magnet. And finally, the commutator is responsible for the timing. In a brushed motor and a coreless motor, the commutator is a brush. In a brushless motor like that in a computer fan, the commutator uses hall effect sensors. In larger motors like those in drones and planes, the ESC relies on timing alone. Induction motors have no commutator. Synchronous motors use slip-rings to provide power to the rotor, but do not use a commutator for timing. Stepper motors require a special controller and have no commutator.
@Heathfloors
@Heathfloors 9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and very helpful video. I watch all your videos but got so much info for me from this one... Thanks you..
@ImrePaasen
@ImrePaasen 9 жыл бұрын
Very good information, Peter can explain it very good. thanks!
@BOKI797
@BOKI797 9 жыл бұрын
Eric & Peter A Really Nice Servo Test Video very Interesting & I learned about Servo's ! Thanks Dave !
@rctv-uk3126
@rctv-uk3126 9 жыл бұрын
Great work guys I like to think I know my stuff but I learned a lot watching this. ATB Malc
@TechDriven365
@TechDriven365 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing information, this was worth every single second.
@Djkibashiba
@Djkibashiba 9 жыл бұрын
best informative video on servos Hands down!!!
@alanrobison8684
@alanrobison8684 4 жыл бұрын
I am learning. And your definitely HELPING. Thanks
@cbf2430
@cbf2430 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video I actually built a Tricopter and used a little 9 gram servo and it broke immediately and looked to the right midair did not end very well
@cha3119
@cha3119 9 жыл бұрын
Yet another great vid guys. Great failure-mode demonstrations. If somebody knows of an aerodynamics program that discusses forces on RC control surfaces, that would be great. That would solve that issue where you just look at "what the other guy is using." Better to actually calculate and know.
@OffroadMXbohemia
@OffroadMXbohemia 2 жыл бұрын
This is precise tips and informations. Thank you for that!
@SeanCullUK
@SeanCullUK 9 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot and am away to check the sizing of my 6 servo speed controller :-)
@JosephHarner
@JosephHarner 9 жыл бұрын
Really liking this more technical style of video.
@Jim-xv7tq
@Jim-xv7tq 6 жыл бұрын
Great video I learned a lot. What is the wire gauge (awg), I’ve herd anything from 20awg to 26awg? The 26 awg was on the hobby king website as extra wire for servo extension.
@matthewfchiera
@matthewfchiera 9 жыл бұрын
This is great information. Very accurate and no bull.
@mrgfpv3741
@mrgfpv3741 3 жыл бұрын
Great job guys, peter you are a clever dude, loved your flying drill LOL!
@JRRetzlaff
@JRRetzlaff 8 жыл бұрын
So how do you fix the cutoff of the receiver from too many servos? Better receiver BEC or something else?
@aerialboy55
@aerialboy55 9 жыл бұрын
So basically you guys didn't get back to magentic induction servo?
@b5a5m5
@b5a5m5 6 жыл бұрын
My guess is that it uses a hall effect sensor to sense position rather than a potentiometer. This has the benefit of a longer lasting servo since hall effect sensors have no physical wear like potentiometers where there's a wiper arm skimming across a resistive surface. I also believe this to be true because Peter physical rotated the servo a few times in one direction where if it was a normal potentiometer it would only rotate to the endpoints of the pot.
@brucepuana6648
@brucepuana6648 9 жыл бұрын
Is it true that digital servos draw more power? If I'm using multiple servos (ailerons, rudder, elevator, pan, tilt, roll) for my fpv... Would I be better off using analog to try to prevent brown-outs? Or am I better off using digital with a stronger bec?
@vipero00
@vipero00 9 жыл бұрын
11:30 Alright Torque is the Lever arm length times the Force of the thrust. T=LxF So for a lever arm 1" long and a Force of 100 oz you get T=1 in x 100 oz = 100 oz-in of torque. Unlike what they say at 11:30 as the lever gets longer the torque doesn't change. The torque is the torque. However as the lever gets longer the force goes down. There is an inverse relationship between the lever length and the max force of the thrust. As one goes up the other goes down.
@digigarb
@digigarb 9 жыл бұрын
Very very nice presentation! Thank you so much
@FergyA
@FergyA 9 жыл бұрын
The 1 inch is just to make your life easier, you could measure it at a different distance, but then you'd have to multiply the reading to get the actual torque. It's easier to just be able to read the number straight off of your force sensor\scale.
@inniyewtesfaw2003
@inniyewtesfaw2003 8 жыл бұрын
+flitetest the stator is the part that stays static (no movement) the rotor is the moving part
@hachiroku6593
@hachiroku6593 6 жыл бұрын
Pete Always has awesome projects and knowledge👍🏻 New drinking game: take a shot every time they say “basically.”
@bryantull7596
@bryantull7596 7 жыл бұрын
How would you go about upgrading an analog servo system to digital? I'm assuming that the controller board would need to be flashed to send the correct signal?
@sganzerlag
@sganzerlag 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, this video really helped!
@SeanCK
@SeanCK 8 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation! Thank you for the video.
@nicsimon2575
@nicsimon2575 9 жыл бұрын
When is the shinden being released?! Im so hyped to get one!
@richiebricker
@richiebricker 2 жыл бұрын
f you were to use an old cheap two wire motor style servo for steering, could you use the two outside wires on the receiver to make this work? or am I deranged and polluted? Thanks
@AceadamUK
@AceadamUK 9 жыл бұрын
great vid guys love these tuts!!!
@emulsion88
@emulsion88 9 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice vid! I would love to see a video about motors where everything is explained. What mean 2206 etc?
@henryhb6302
@henryhb6302 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish they made more informative videos like this nowadays
@AudaciousRC
@AudaciousRC 9 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this has been mentioned already, or if this is even correct, but i THINK the reason they move the servo 1 inch to measure the torque is because in the U.S. torque units are pounds per foot or 'foot pounds' etc so moving 1 inch is easy to convert to ft/lbs because it is 1/12 of a foot.... i'm just speculating haha i'm not totally sure. -Colton
@albert3361
@albert3361 Жыл бұрын
Great demo.
@7439norma
@7439norma 9 жыл бұрын
I have a plane that I am going to run flaps, that will make the plane have 6 servos 4 digital and 2 analog. is there something I can do to keep from having my servos quite working?
@TheStrafendestroy
@TheStrafendestroy 8 жыл бұрын
im trying to rotate a 4 inch diameter pvc pipe with a length of 5ft and a weigth of 15lbs i want the servo to be at the top is there any you would recomend
@faqdaworld
@faqdaworld 9 жыл бұрын
So whats the deal with the Magnetic Induction Servo? You said that you'd get back to it but never did? I assume it works through halls affect?
@ulaB
@ulaB 9 жыл бұрын
Little Bits are great to play with. We had a big box of them last year at Re:Publica in the Maker area and everyone was just creating stuff that made noise in some way or the other :). They are a bit pricey though.
@ppro69
@ppro69 9 жыл бұрын
you guys need to make the plane behind Peter available on the free build plans.
@j3fron
@j3fron 7 жыл бұрын
i have a question same torque but different size servo which one better? for example a 17g with a 22g, but with same torque about 2.5kg which one is better? same results? thx
@sailorjohn2224
@sailorjohn2224 9 жыл бұрын
Brown out , I first found this problem on hopped up Strykers 10 yrs ago, but bit me just recently on a slow stick where the control rod was binding in the guide for the rudder why----rust on the rod (marker flag wire),
@O-cDxA
@O-cDxA Жыл бұрын
Can a servo use the electrical signal on a car's brake lights to flip up an airbrake ? BTW, I mean a full size car. I have seen some huge scale planes that require a lot of torque to move the flaps. Thanks for any help.
@Tgreenmi
@Tgreenmi 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can help me. I need a servo where it sits forward in the neutral position. I then need to be able to turn 180 and look behind. When I say 180 I don't mean total travel because they does not turn enough. I also cant use a continues travel servo that also will not work for my application. Is there a hack or is there a type of servo or what can I do....any input would help. Thanks
@crazycrow3378
@crazycrow3378 9 жыл бұрын
Will routing the power for the servo's from a separate BEC to bypass the receiver prevent risks of a brownout? I tried it once but I ended up frying my servos. Theoretically it should work right?
@scottjamison1602
@scottjamison1602 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, only correction is torque remained the same regardless of the length of the lever arm what changes is the forever or load, further you go out on the arm, greater throw but less forage. Think of a pry bar. Torque of 1lb/in says at one inch from the center of rotation is equal to 1 lb of force, go out 2 inches you get 0.5 lb of force go out 1/2" you get 2 lbs of force.
@2891michaelk
@2891michaelk 4 жыл бұрын
Learn alot from Peter. Great video
@jurijstorozuk6170
@jurijstorozuk6170 9 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you, guys!
@MastereTNT
@MastereTNT 9 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the Dream-Flight Libbele dlg
@MarcStollmeyer
@MarcStollmeyer 7 жыл бұрын
What is a good digital 9gram servo? (with metal gears maybe?) Are there any cheap options?
@normrubio
@normrubio 8 жыл бұрын
That was a great vid! Thx
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