Fly By Wire A380 FIRST FLIGHT | The BEST FREEWARE EVER? | Real Airbus Pilot

[@A330Driver]

Welcome to the first out of MANY flights with the magnificant Fly By Wire A380! A quick note here on the video titel: "First Flight" really means it! This is a plane you really got to learn and get around the systems as nothing the likes has been out on the market just yet. The same of course applies for myself as I'm not A380 rated. So expect so rougher edges occasionally. If I type'd myself properly before doing the first vid you probably wouldn't see one for the next three months or so ;-)

[@lsa1641]

You need to take some real A380 pilot and do a stream with him flying together that huge thing 🙂

[@TravellingTechie]

Real A380 Driver here, nicely done, this is pretty much how we do it at my airline. 👍

[@A330Driver]

Thank you so much, I love to hear it!

[@ibraheemnabeel]

Who do you work with, Emirates?

[@worlds_okayest_pilot_421]

@@ibraheemnabeelhe’s not a real A380 driver.

[@TravellingTechie]

@@ibraheemnabeel Not going to say.

[@TravellingTechie]

@@worlds_okayest_pilot_421 Why do you say that? Sometimes, just sometimes, somebody on the internet tells the truth. Ask me a question about operating an A380. First thing I can say about this sim is that at least two of the Checklists are wrong; the Before Start Checklist is split into 2 parts; above the line and 'below the line'. It's not 2 separate checklists, they are one and it's held on the screen until you have had clearance from the pushback team and also Ground/Ramp frequency to push. After starting engines, you would select the flaps, wait for them to finish running out, then complete the control checks THEN the after start checklist (and it would also include the line GROUND CREW CLEARANCE.....SEEN, which is not in there on this sim). That enough knowledge for you?

[@ibraheemnabeel]

This is an early revision, just imagine how brilliant its going to be a year from today. Airbus should pitch in and help with the development and provide some data.

[@musicalaviator]

That would be nice. Probably never gonna happen though. At least Airbus don't sue people like Gulfstream lol

[@A330Driver]

Indeed, just look at where they took their A320neo in the days since it first came out! This will be absolutely wonderful!

[@ibraheemnabeel]

@@A330Driver as an airline pilot yourself, where would you rate it from a study level perspective?

[@umi3017]

@@musicalaviator Meanwhile Toliss be like....

[@1CatSitter]

@@umi3017toliss utter trash

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

This puts the Aerosoft A330 release even more on the spot. These people did in 4 years for free what a bunch of paid developers couldn't do in the same time. A quick tip for the frequency tuning: You don't have to enter the 1 any longer. The system knows that all frequencies start with a 1.

[@pieterduplessis6906]

you should really focus on what we are given here and not any other dev. lots have already been said and it takes away from this great moment

[@wy206]

They didn't do it for free, they get tons of donations.

[@zocopeta3290]

@@wy206They did it for free in their spare time all the donations are going to servers/ equipment for developers and stuff but they are not getting paid.

[@LuLeBe]

I'm pretty sure the amount if hours spent was similar though. Not an excuse, but I'm assuming FBW had like 100 people working 2hrs a week, while Aerosoft had 5 working 40hrs.

[@FTStratLP]

​@@LuLeBeI guess that's to the point.

[@JJFLD]

All of us need to write a big fat check to the FlyByWire team for this. Absolutely outstanding and they deserve our support!

[@gregorymckenna6609]

While (by their own admission) the A380 is not perfect, this freeware aircraft is much better than many payware aircraft. Honestly I can’t believe it is free. Now that Fly By Wire has released it to us we must help them by reporting any bugs so they can improve it. Do many thanks to all the incredible people at FBW.

[@flyhalf2]

And also help them by donating

[@gregorymckenna6609]

@ will do

[@RocksterSAMA]

simbrief has the custom A380 FBW profile and also will calculate the take off and landing performance, I just checked it.

[@musicalaviator]

It'd be nice if they put it inside the cockpit (maybe in an EFB) even if it's just the simbrief website that gets called up into an "in the EFB" browser

[@jip5873]

Fuel Factor in Sim Brief should be lowered M20, to avoid landing with overweight. Fuel consumption is being worked on by the FBW team.

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

It should be noted though that the fuel burn in the profile is off. I read somewhere that FBW themselves recommend setting the Fuel Factor to -20. But I couldn't confirm this on their own website. However I'm currently in the air on a flight to Bangkok from Munich. And I have burned about 11% less fuel than predicted by Simbrief with one hour left until Destination.

[@RocksterSAMA]

@@Quotenwagnerianer better more fuel than less IMO ii don't mind it at all, I'm just using the profile they released on their website. i haven't been able to fly it yet coz my PC couldn't handle the 8k I'm trying the 4k to check, otherwise I don't mind waiting for further enhancement updates.

[@juancho420]

Yes it still needs a lot of work.

[@A350_Handler]

Yes 1+F is the correct flap setting indication on the 380 same as 350 for landing, BTV you need to go to PLAN then you zoom it'll automatically go to the airport

[@danielg9805]

It’s going to be amazing watching this grow with every update.

[@A330Driver]

Absolutely!

[@ITMann]

This early revision A380X from FlybyWire is amazing as it is freeware. A big thank you to this team and their hard work and endeavours. Of course we must realise it is an early product in its developement phase and this will only get better over the next few months to come. Thank you so much Emanuel for showcasing this aircraft. Yup, the biggest problem for me was the optimisation even in the 4k version. And also depending on your own hardware, CPU choice and GPU, it is quite laggy in places, and big FPS drops. Of couse depending also on the airport scenery you are using. But it needs work in this area. The learning curve is greater and this adds to the enjoyment of this aircraft. We are so lucky in this time to be having such a simulator that adds to real immersion, something to stimulate the mind and excite the imagination. Of course as some of us may choose to head to MSFS 2024 when it launches it may be a long time before this product is compatible in that software. Enjoy it as this time. Certainly I hope it receives the love and care that the A32NX has had and enjoys the almost regular updates. Thank you.

[@sky173]

What an amazing plane! Thank you FlyByWire team!

[@misscaptainL]

For the airport to show so you can do BTV, you have to go into plan mode first.

[@mikebuenaventura5]

This is from the A350, but the PROG page is now under MONITOR-POSITION on the MFD. not sure if it should read GPS primary on the A380 as it is NAV PRIMARY on the 350. Thanks for showcasing this!

[@A330Driver]

Thanks, I'll look it up in the FCOM!

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

Not yet implemented on the FBW.

[@BS-eh1zf]

Ah, the A380. For me the Spoiler and Aileron ballet of the A380 is always so nice to watch on approaches.

[@fatboyfat_uk]

I believe in some presentation or Q&A the devs said the engines are currently known to be over powered in the climb, but pretty accurate on the ground. So the climb rates you’re seeing are a bit over the top, even for a light plane.

[@HarryFortyTwo]

indeed. i just climbed out of SBGR with 6000ft/min (!)

[@neilpatrickhairless]

Hahaha so the opposite of IAE Airbusses on Flightgear..... Damn near taking off at idle throttle position during taxi ahh plane 😂

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

Indeed. I just did a step climb after 8 hours of flight time from FL350 to FL390 at a GW of over 386000 and still got 2700 fpm. That's certainly not right.

[@rh-milkyboy9856]

Do you think we can get a detailed guide for this plane like you did with the others? I love learning the details within the plane I'm flying 😊

[@A330Driver]

Yes, most definitely! However I need to familiarize myself with the plane first. Contrary to many other types that get released for MSFS I do not have any previous experience with the A380 from my time in FSX or P3D. So this is all new for me as well.

[@rshvkkt91]

Now only if we could lay hands on the real world A380 FCOM and FCTM, I for one would love to respect the devs' hard work by really getting into the nitty gritties of this iconic aircraft both in real life and in MSFS❤

[@A330Driver]

If you google for A380 FCOM you'll find some results.

[@gwalker3092]

I found an old one on internet some time back. Its dated Nov 2011 its only 7156 pages long and kills my computer when i load it. Seriously you don't need this I've never read more than 10% of it.

[@HarryFortyTwo]

Did my first flight too a few mins ago - very impressive freeware indeed! Even if that was payware it woul still be pretty impressive. if the team can work on the performance this can really get an outstanding addon!

[@jhendric98]

Very fun flight. I was hoping for a cabin tour. Looking forward to more A380!

[@A330Driver]

Thanks! Perhaps on one of the next ones. I’m admittedly not all that much of a cabin fan, I prefer the right side of the cockpit door 😄

[@jhendric98]

@@A330Driver I agree. I was curious at how far a freeware had gone. Great video. Glad to be a sub on your channel!

[@richardsuttill54]

It’s Friday in Aus, shall I tell the Boss I need a sick day ? Oh well maybe not but in another 8 hours I will be exploring this magnificence. Thanks for a splendid introductory flight, I am sure your virtual type rating will come before mine. Off to work…..

[@FTStratLP]

😂

[@42LGK]

holiday in germany :)

[@richardsuttill54]

@@42LGK TO be honest I have taken early retirement 🙂

[@tanberjan]

I could feel the weight of this bird just watching you do your turns during taxi, tremendous job on this by the Flybywire team!

[@Anasaltamimi757]

I just got it and I’m flying from KJFK-OMDB looks so amazing. I appreciate your time and your amazing tutorial. Greetings from IRAQ

[@normg2242]

Man, I have SO much respect for you airline pilots...!

[@dolf1010]

What a fantastic aircraft .It was worth waiting so long for . 👍✈️Flap setting 1 plus F is okay , the A 380 has a bigger variety in flap setting .

[@niek_DK]

To use the OANS in the air for BTV u have to set the nd to plan mode.

[@ibraheemnabeel]

Yes! Select plan > Select RWY > Select the vacate taxiway and select BTV on the knob.

[@m_swizzy22]

Sounds crazy to say “we are light” when casually flying above B77W MTOW 😂 A380 is amazing! I had the pleasure to fly with the jet 3x when traveling. Amazing jet to fly as a passenger, must be awesome for the pilots too.

[@rubes3927]

I’m downloading this the second I get home from work today 😍. I just hope ToLiss can make one for x plane now, I really loathe the physics in MSFS 😩.. Edit I’m literally crying this is like a dream come true 😭😍 The sound of the flaps and engines are stunning!

[@majoraviatior1611]

Bruh msfs physics is fine

[@LunarEcho87]

Absurd, utterly absurd how far the sim has come in MSFS, this rate of development was unheard of in P3D and Xplane. Very very excited for what is to come!

[@Bob-yp9wt]

Quick tip to center the map on the aircraft: double click with the in-sim cursor on the display and select "center on acft" option

[@yowie69]

Definitely up there with some of the best payware aircraft, great video Emanuel. BTW I flew one under the Auckland harbour Bridge earlier (it fits just) and on climbout the right wing began flapping uncontrollably, was quite funny. Reloaded the aircraft in the dev mode and that fixed it.

[@musicalaviator]

Let's board a full A380 in realistic time: *goes to make dinner... step 1, plant some wheat...

[@neilpatrickhairless]

Hahaha it's like hand programming MCDU without going to Simbrief. "1000 Years Later..."

[@henriklmao]

​@@neilpatrickhairless actually a good thing to do in those 40 mins

[@AlexCzeremanski]

Just curious what was that binding that you used that allowed you to reload the sim and improve frames? 21:05 and 21:43? Many thanks

[@SMatthew]

I think he's just alt+tabbing.

[@A330Driver]

Yep, switching to windowed and back to full screen.

[@AlexCzeremanski]

@@A330Driver Perfect thanks!

[@MattyAir]

for BTV, you must set it up during the decent phase. and you click on display airport adter inserting the IACO

[@elturkocharro4106]

According to the FBW documentation, the TO Perf calculator can be done by the Simbrieft Performace Calculator. I've tried it, and it works super!

[@simondelgado9261]

I was waiting for this video 😂

[@LegionOfEclaires]

Quite impressive. Laggy but impressive!

[@tjfSIM]

Hopefully that will improve with updates and better optimisation

[@bradclooney69]

4K version with the cabin turned off performs better, but it's already very good. Will only get better! Especially in MSFS2024

[@YigitArdaArslan]

Du hast gut geschafft Emanuel. Ich gratuliere zu dir und bedanke dir für das geile Video.

[@Bob-yp9wt]

To use BTV, make sure your map mode selector is on "Plan" and then the airport will display

[@DinkyDoos]

It is a bit of a triumph for the FBW crew isn't it. With the release notes they seemed to be playing down its usability somewhat, but it flies just fine.. Well done FBW.. Also, 4k is good enough and frame rates are much better

[@Mr.Martini549]

Thank you for this easy to follow introduction to what is a very complex plane. Still much to learn! I may have to duplicate your simple flight plan.

[@rexjamo]

I've been flying the 380 for 5 years and have never turned off the stby before the main pumps!

[@Flyer0245]

Maybe it is a good time to start this practice or ask an TRI in your company about it.

[@Aliabi3211]

Tipp: If you want do set the BTV you have to go to plan mode or it will not work.

[@toolpusher333]

Great vid by the way. I am a A32nx but hell its really well done . I was getting stutters in A32nx in development mode . In A380X at 4k really nice with NO stutters at all really good

[@SN57ONE]

I waited for this yesterday on their discord and another 2 hours of waiting for download. The server traffic is on a whole another level. Worth it though.

[@LuLeBe]

Even though it totally bugged out for me on one flight (Pitch trim didn't move and was stuck at full deflection, always pitching up 30deg or so and then obviously going into alpha floor but still not recovering even with full nose down input, ending up at 0fpm while 12deg up with 120kn) it is so much fun! Amazing what kind of complex systems they implemented.

[@causticlaurent]

We waited since ag but they made a wonderful bird, just worth the wait :) Congrats FBY

[@itsRAYLAB]

Nice video again !! i just wonder sir. If there is any possibility would you be open up to take us on a journey and show us how to properly handle ( medical emergeny on board and how to deal with it if you really need to divert Asap ? I’ve never seen any instruction video on a yt that would explain. Thanks a lot and have a great one

[@ali.m9130]

Hi, if you want to re-centre your onboard airport map display, double left Click mouse the ND when you're in onboard airport map display mode, then press the last option, Re-centre to ACRT if I remember the full correct name 😂.

[@nicolainielsen7700]

I love the Denethor, Faramir, Boromir situation we have here xD. Alternatively Gordon Ramsay cooking with adults vs kids meme.

[@XHMaiDi]

The lagging is caused by frame gen, it happens when you switch views, the 8k version is recommended on dx11 and 4k is recommended if using frame gen and dx12.

[@PrimeTime6655]

i just tested it and in order to display the airport for the BTV feature you have to set it from ARC to PLAN, then it shows the airport and you can click on the RWY you want to take ( left click ) then it will display the brake performance in magenta in DRY and WET conditions. after that you can click on the exit you wanna take and it will show a green line. After that you can set the auto brakes to BTV. Hope you will try it again.

[@philipepacheco]

Had 3 flight tests with this acft. Amazing work, but a lot to improve in terms of performance. FBW said that we can expect around 25% of performance impact compared to A320 but even using 4K textures, I lost more than 50% of FPS. I saw a lot of comments in this way on FBW's Discord. In a quick test using scenery and online environment, I had a constant 15/20 FPS, making this airplane nearly unusable. In the same environment I had a solid 40/50 using Fenix. FBW made a brilliant work with this airplane, and for a freeware add-on it's absolutely wonderful but the acft needs a LOT of performance tuning.

[@yourloneaviator]

Double left click on the ND to open a menu an find the center on acft option, it's pretty useful :)

[@badingis754]

Great video! That lagging effect that you get when you go into outside view is a result of your VRAM being maxed out, just a heads up!

[@A330Driver]

Thanks! I have 24GB of VRAM, wonder how many more you'd need haha

[@d1gits214]

Great Video, I can't wait to fly it later... Many thanks

[@nathandrz4008]

For btv you did it correctly but you need to hit the double arrow button when you are a bit further out. That will then show destination airport map

[@RocksterSAMA]

The reason why you couldnt see the airport during your BTV setup is you forgot to change from arc to plan mode, the airport wont appear in arc mode. also once the airport vomrd up you nrrf to click on the numbers (runway identifiers) before you choose your exit. Also make sure its after the WET mark. took me a bit to get it too

[@A330Driver]

Thanks!

[@RocksterSAMA]

@A330Driver you're most welcome, glad I could help. I can't fly this plan sadly but atleast I was able to configure everything. The plane becomes unplayable for me during decent mg while PC and my GPU seem to take a major hit, I'm running the 4k one but my poor ryzen 7 3800x and 1080ti can't handle this for now. I hope they release a performance update soon

[@lukasgraesslin]

Incredible what they have delivered, especially considering it's still an Alpha (and free!) Unfortunately makes the Aerosoft A330 release even more sad.

[@landingmission2203]

Just a quick note: when you start engine 1 and 2 you turn engine number one on and then you have to wait until eng 1 is at 10% N2. Thereafter you can start engine 2. Same for engine 3 and 4

[@yasinaygun4251]

It‘s not how Lufthansa does it. In the PilotsEye Jürgen Raps episode he also starts 1, 2 and 3, 4 directly after one another without waiting for 10% N2.

[@carlosgauna2183]

The simbrief take off calculator works pretty good;)

[@Altunenberg88]

Another amazing video! Thank you!!

[@Synicz]

Note about the OANS with BTV: You need to be in the "PLAN" mode to get the BTV working and zoom into the arr airport. Gruß aus HH :)

[@colasmulot]

4k version looks plenty good and fels good too performance wise on my high end pc. Recommend it for anyone having problems

[@gwalker3092]

Turn off the cabin too helped with 8gb 3070. It’s the top left most little metal plate above behind the FO chair it’s shown in FBW discord

[@oliverfoden]

just to let you know, you can use sim brief perf calculator to get you takeoff data!!

[@davidduhme7780]

Honestly, I'm blown away. I wasn't really that hyped for this aircraft tbh, not a huge 380 fan irl, as I'm more into modern ETOPS planes, especially the 350. Once that is released by ini, I won't bee seen for weeks. However, after downloading the whale today, I was super impressed by the functionality of the systems, the visual quality end attention to detail. This is absolutely well within payware range. And I'm so happy to finally have a modern long haul Airbus too. I'm also even more sad in a way to see what motivated freeware developers can do in 4 years vs Aerosoft with ther 330, but well... That's probably a trauma chasing many of us for quite some time

[@darienbarnes1637]

Double click the map and it'll bring up the menu to center on aircraft 😊 Also for BTV you need to have it on PLN mode. I'm sure you know by now though. 😅

[@marcm4570]

Setup is same as a350. Piece of cake

[@Hairyman13]

Wish I didn't have a job to go to and could just fly the A380 and 777 all day :( hopefully one day in the future though it could be my job lol

[@A330Driver]

haha, no chance for homeoffice?

[@Hairyman13]

@ I have to figure out how to get machines into my home for that haha

[@JQNick]

First flight I selected direct to, and then the PFD/ND froze, the doors started opening and closing and the flightcontrols became unrresponsive... Gotta love an Alpha release :)

[@A330Driver]

I haven’t had such issues yet. But well, it’s still in a better shape than a lot of recently released payware 😂

[@gwalker3092]

Managed three flights and it’s impressive for sure has its moments but Tbf I had a lot less issues than I anticipated. I’m flown the FF350 a lot so am more familiar with the FMS than if just flew the 320/etc. I find it much quicker to use the function keys (fpln etc) on the KCCU but use pc keyboard for typing letters and numbers, helpful when your pc is slow 😅 saves laggy cursor. I used 4k version made no sense use 8k when they said it’s tough on pc need get all the fps you can. Once your used to FMS left clicking waypoint gives so many options and saves a lot of messing around. It’s a shame the position options are not available gives a lot of useful information. As others have said Simbrief has profile and perf calc produces believable figures although I carnt prove it right or wrong. I’ve only tried procedures and flights I do for practice and study which are not too difficult and she flies them very well. Can only believe this will improve as time goes on.. it’s already a really fun and capable aircraft great time to be in fsim. Gratz to all involved in FBW for making such lovely aircraft. Looking forward to seeing plenty of videos. I don’t believe A380 is coded at present to give the deviations GPS/IRS/RNP as its on the position/monitor page that doesn't exist . This page on the FF350 at least shows GPS/FMC/IRS positions, accuracy and RNP etc although i don't know what the EPS accuracy stands for, is for ? It is listed above the RNP accuracy.

[@lordmashie]

I love when the frame generation freaks out

[@tboneisgaming]

Pretty impressive for an Alpha build. Aerosoft should take note.

[@Hoekstes]

Great channel. Magnificant developers! 😘

[@PeterPan-jd9lu]

I am using DLSS frame generation, so they advise to use 4k instead. Downloading rn. Very excited! 😊

[@noahglavan]

Very nice flight Emanuel 👍👍, maybe next flight if the ANA will release the flying Honu livery, maybe you can do a flight from Tokyo NRT to Honolulu.

[@francescocacopardo4806]

thank you very much , what an awesome video like always

[@GioMorgan1]

Great video, thanks I learned a lot from it

[@pedjaracan4590]

Regarding glideslope. EFB has an option under Settings > Sim Options > Use calculated ILS Signals which might help with wrong MSFS glideslopes like in the video. Didn't have time to test it yet though.

[@lowsensitivity4384]

Amazing video, but how do you get the auto break off call-out when landing ?

[@fsclips]

Thanks for the great video 😊

[@JustIsaac134]

This is awesome, don’t check Toulouse, Frankfurt, Dubai, LAX, and London on Vatsim because it’s insane rn

[@switch_lp1302]

Hey Emanuel. Great video! We alle waited so long for this Moment :) I would snuggest turn the graphics a bit down for the next video or just use the 4k that will also do it. And FBW says that they recommend using simbriefs calculator.

[@theywx]

freeware?! this is AMAZING

[@A330Driver]

Indeed it is!

[@pepsy7]

If u put plan mode with the zoom u can see the arrival airport when u are airborne

[@4kuhdv]

For performance calculator you can use simbrief calculator and for gear camera I just setup camera view et same position as in real life (I know that its not the most realistic since you can't see screens ect but I think its better than nothing :) )

[@PanacheConnection]

Simbrief has its own take off performance calculator under performance and tools that you could try.

[@MouldyGuitars]

Was just about to about 8k or 4K version just as you mentioned you were on the 8k one

[@Elias-xn1km]

One question what resources are you using for studying the a380?I tried myself but couldn’t find a fcom or some general information about individual systems or even flows.

[@jae0204]

Thanks for your vid !

[@PepuDrummer527]

And I thought my graphic card was getting bad, and I see that stutters and flickering happen to you as well. And I also have to fix it by alt+enter twice

[@JohnBurke18]

I have a pretty high-end system, but I haven’t been able to fly this aircraft without serious stutters and lagging. What do your specs look like and did you do anything to optimize to fly this one specifically?

[@skadvani]

A very nice video. One question - where do you enter the ils frequency incase you need to change the runway while landing

[@joshuaspop8865]

Looks nice! But for long hauls, the auto-cruise on the PMDG 777 has me spoiled. I can’t spend hours in cruise.

[@Kim-ov2mq]

You can use the EFB to turn the Sim Rate up. But sure, Auto Cruiseis another level. :)

[@CTTechGaming]

I would be interested to know how much Vram is being used because the issue you are getting at 1:08:47 with the shaky camera is a 4000 series issue with frame gen normally when the vram maxes out, not normally common on a 4090 as it has 24GB but say the 4070 with just 12 really suffers with it in certain resolutions and higher level of details. guessing the 8k textures are filling it up.

[@der.Schtefan]

Maybe aviation lingo is different, but in physics, you can't get rid of inertia, as it is an intrinsic property of mass. You can only get rid of kinetic energy, which I think is what you meant to say?

[@302project]

That's weird that you are getting those massive stutters when viewing the aircraft from the outside. I have similar setup except I run AMD 7950X cpu. But I run the sim in 1440p, and with frame generation on and TAA. It runs flawlessly. Oh and I downloaded the 8k version of the aircraft.

[@Jojos25]

The takeoff roll is super short...

[@A330Driver]

Of course, the A380 can do 18 hour flights with a takeoff weight at 510t. Here we took off some 140t below that. Of course it'll have a short takeoff run.

[@Jojos25]

@@A330Driver thanks for the input sir!

[@derchenlin4498]

Didn't you find a problem in the engine reverse? The cockpit reverse throttle can't be moved, even you can see from outside that engine did reverse , but indeed affect no aircraft speed ?

[@A330Driver]

tbh, I never looked at the levers in the cockpit during landing. The reversers themselves work just fine for me, like they do on any other aircraft.

[@migueledler4203]

Land this bird at Madeira 05 runway with an rnav approach in fog... or vor in good weather...i would love to know if its possible technically, of course for procedure in real world is not because of regulations

[@A330Driver]

Technically it would be easy. Turnrates are the same between all aircraft and the A380 actually has very slow approach speeds (remember it was designed to be expanded into a -900 and perhabs -1000, the wings are much too large for the -800 we got in the end).

[@vikeeeeeee]

I think you need to go to PLAN mode when trying to display an airport you're not at on the OANS