Fly-in Fly-out realities

Ray Revill, a fly-in fly-out worker for 25 years, talks about the toll on workers and their families.

[@HgHgHgHgHgHgHgHg]

He's only 30 years old :(

[@kyzor-sosay6087]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@wordhole5870]

🤣

[@e.t7567]

😂😂😂😂😂🤣

[@ggvffggyfdfgujjhhggxxxxghyhhg]

He turned out 29 this year😂

[@rrocketman]

"all the money in the world doesn't make up for being away from your family" Well said mate 👍

[@fredfred4086]

Truth.

[@Researchthejoos]

Absolute mugs game fifo Horrible industry

[@Researchthejoos]

@@user-mj5vx8xj8t time with your family is what its about Not sitting in a c container in the desert. Depression End of story

[@DeutschlandKanal]

If you don’t have a family there is no problem.

[@royalchiefindian]

cool, no family & a deathwish

[@barrybarry5803]

I fly in and fly out, my missus say's "Not again, is five minutes the best you can do"

[@youfritter]

5 minutes! lucky girl. 🤣🤣

[@barrybarry5803]

@@youfritter Ten dollar Ten Dollar i love you 5 minutes!!!

[@jamie_d___]

5 minutes is a lifetime in the spirit world 🌍 lol

[@shannonjaensch3705]

Money is your time. Money takes away some of your stresses but equally creates the same amount, if not more stresses. Your time/care/energy are your true values and gifts whilst in this physical consciousness experience we are having. Both money and time run out very quickly if squandered. FIFO's may get paid well but it comes at a huge cost of personal connected consciousness experiences that they lose when away from what/who matters to them the most.

[@trentfrompunchbowl]

I did oil and gas 10 years. Used to get on a lot of flights in a month. Now hardly leave the town i live in or home. Cant stand be on a plane for more than 2 hours like once a year

[@robertcampbell6521]

Years spent doing dido foundation industry drilling piles to ventilation shafts for underground mines roster was 6 weeks on 3 days off if you were lucky,however if the job only had a few more weeks you would stay until finished. Best advice make good money and keep it and don't piss it up against a wall "keep more of what you make and make more of what you keep " as with every year it gets harder

[@aaronodriscoll8958]

It's not for everyone but I love it. My family is well taken care of. Over my 17 years I've seen 6 and 1, 4 and 1. Currently doing 2 and 1 at snowy hydro.

[@xpeyote886]

I applied for Snowy Hydro hospitality all rounder just the other day. I doubt Ill get it.

[@aaronodriscoll8958]

@xPeyote88 they are screaming for people at Lobs Hole. I'm sure you will get it. Better chance calling NX Blue than go on the books after 3 months.

[@xpeyote886]

@@aaronodriscoll8958 I just got a new job yesterday at a hotel. The roster 2:1 is a bit hardcore. I’d like that $$ and I’m single so I wouldn’t mind. Might put my name down.

[@Researchthejoos]

Snowy hydro is a mugs game

[@R00RAL]

No matter what $$. Simple fact is you can't buy time.

[@chillwinston1255]

Yeh but getting paid out the ass makes the time you get alot sweeter Fukin complaining about being rich stfu

[@mikebasketball11]

​@@user-mj5vx8xj8tThat's pretty bloody fantastic mate, well done. Is it very tough to get into FIFO work as someone with little technical experience? I have an uncle who's high up working for Fortescue metals and sometimes wonder if FIFO would suit me, even if to just massively save $ and set myself up financially. Cheers.

[@nickhutt6264]

100% So don't blow the $$$, otherwise your blowing your life.

[@newport5504]

he got that militry mind set

[@yommmrr]

Its a fkn job not a jail sentence, you can leave anytime and go home to your family. Not worth necking yourself over at all.

[@russthomson6168]

good stuff

[@chaddyboi7198]

Unfortunately with the cost of living people have no choice but to work fifo next week Monday i start my first day as a Electrical trade assist i fear this will be my future 😢

[@thebigw3377]

Wimps I done 18 weeks straight once back in the 90’s

[@npg68]

That all? Now, back in my day........

[@riprex2072]

Yeah, Back at BANDCAMP🤣

[@bunyiparseadventuresbydoog5365]

Your dead right!, I wasn’t but losing the family side of things is wat cost the most😢

[@Fenndog]

People get used to the money and spending it with no plan 😂😂😂 I make 300k before tax and am smart with it and have a plan cause it’s not a fucking lifestyle I’ll tell you that 🥴

[@mathewcarr9671]

Nobody puts a gun to your head & forces you to do FIFO.

[@chill543]

U have olive

[@izakcelliers7307]

Hows this on utube???????

[@letsbehonest4221]

Would suit my ex well ..she could have lots of guys to cheat with and she didn't give a crap about how the family felt.. ..yer she'd love it ..

[@1brymark]

It’s an option, you don’t like it, don’t do it. Dont blame someone else. Take some responsibility.

[@markpeall2509]

L

[@sarahcarter3245]

A supervisor friend said to me one day that we value what is scarce. At the beginning everyone wants the money because most people live paycheck to paycheck and the money from the mines breaks that. As time goes on and the mortgages are paid and the super tops up, it is time that is scarce, not money anymore. As he got older, he realised that family time is more important and reduced his pay to get a 1/1 roster. He said; "Have a money based goal within 5 years, get your partner to get in on it and after the goal is met or time's up, then have a holiday with them for a few weeks and re-orient your goals"

[@Evvzt]

💯

[@followingtheroe1952]

from what ive found here in canada 3/3 is the sweetspot that works best for me :) maybe 4/2 if you really wanna put your head down and earn a Principle investment for a season. I think anything shorter than 3/3 gets ineffecient vis a vi fly days. even if your fly days are paid, that pay is also capped if you make enough. Currently though im out working 6 weeks voluntarily off of a shift thats meant to be 3. Ive had to jump and fill in positions above me for a week here or there. I dont know if there are genuinely not enough ppl looking to work in the kitchens up here, or if our HR just cant make anything happen. I know they are stretched thin over too many projects (middle of summer!) and its impossible for me to directly contact them. I hope they dont forget me up here! xD I will say nearing the end of Week 5 I am emotionally exhausted and I got the brain fog 🤯

[@thehealthylife5715]

I agree but what's the other option? Have family time all the time and be broke or struggling?

[@mzee5533]

@@thehealthylife5715you’re right mate family time is overrated and reality is mostly ignored.

[@TheTrueFool]

Very true. I've found that as I've moved up in my career and started making more money that I'm less interested in working OT. I'm at a fortunate point where I can prioritize time over money.

[@maxrockatanksyOG]

Spent 15 years drilling. Started off doing 3 months on, 2 weeks. That moved to 3 months on, 1 month off. Then the 2/2 started to come in, and finally 1/1 before a back injury finished me off. As much as i loved drilling, those 15 years cost me 2 relationships & numerous friends

[@gerard8439]

3 months on and 2 weeks off would have been tough going! Were you above ground or below?

[@jasonswift7098]

Did you save much money from it?

[@allananderson949]

I've had numerous friends and 2 relationships in 15 years and I'm home every night

[@joekeegan-yc4nm]

Copy that.

[@RWBU]

I'm sorry to hear that but sincerely appreciate your honesty and wisdom

[@adman7515]

I worded FIFO for about 8y in different jobs. Have to know when to quit, which I did. Need to prioritise life.

[@stuartgraham9329]

I’m a labourer in a gold mine. My roster is 2 on 2 off (weeks) and 2 weeks annual leave. I work 24 weeks a year. I have no complaints

[@_arman_]

Great gig!

[@4M5555]

How much are you making? Hope you don't mind sharing.

[@whitebwoi]

​@@4M5555I've seen people on Reddit posts saying they make 150k doing 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. 5 months of work. Looks like I'ma have to try to enter the mining sector.

[@IsraelRodriguez1]

I want this. 💪🏼

[@shiggzay]

Did 2/2 weeks for around 5 years as a heavy duty mechanic in mines around British Columbia and Alberta. Made average $175k a year. Also taking a shift off in the summer letting me have 6 consecutive weeks off. It was a good balance

[@craigschiller1599]

Worked 6 weeks on 1 off, was fkd, didnt even know what month it was, damn Zombie, then done 2&1. Fly back, loose a day, 36hrs no sleep, drive home, should have become a politician. 4x the wage all the perks, sleep during sitting & take super whenever u stop. Lol, back to fifo, great for 10 yrs then got to plan to stop or u get into a habit, then end up divorced like mostof people I know that done fifo, busted their rear end to get nice house, car, whatever the missus wants, etc, to see it all vaporise cos "your never home" but they liked the $$$ as rolled in. If your single, go for it, if not better have an exit plan & stick to it or it will go Boom in your face.

[@mickregan8431]

same as a trucky last year i spent 9 months living in truck

[@matty_isthemotto]

Single mans game hands down.

[@julzhunt7790]

Or womans

[@youfritter]

ah, no. Generally speaking that is not true at all.@@julzhunt7790

[@Amberlynn_Reid]

or gender neutral cis queer non binary people that may or may not be neurodiverse that are part of the LGBTQI++ community

[@cjyoung7372]

I laugh when people try and glamorize fifo it's not fun it's a sacrifice to try and better yourself

[@brettlusby8094]

It's definitely not all it's cracked up to be. Have to have a game plan and go in with your eyes open, seen many think it'll last forever and piss it all up against the wall or blow it on toys. Many horror stories of relationship problems when the big paychecks end, knew one trusting old bloke coming off a 3 year fifo construction job only to find out his wife had a gambling problem and the money was all gone, another got told to make sure he got a maxi taxi from the airport to home so all his belongings that his missus had thrown out on the front lawn would fit in it.

[@FekDindad-xy9vz]

Lot more money, more time off, and more time with the kids than I ever had working 9-5. I love my full week at home with the kids much more than I ever did my 10min in the morning and 2h at night.

[@shannonjaensch3705]

Well said. The key words are to "try to better yourself" but in reality it often does the opposite.

[@bunyiparseadventuresbydoog5365]

I spent 7 years in mine work, fifo or dido and thought I was doing the right thing but now after be separated for 3 and a half years and nothing to show for it. I've missed more of my children's birthdays and special occasions than I would care to remember, all i have left is a broken marriage and broken relationships with my children, the money is never worth that.

[@Fenndog]

Nothing to show for it means you weren’t very smart with your money 🥴

[@colinl9018]

@@Fenndog Or she took the lot, as happens.

[@Fenndog]

@@colinl9018 if she took the lot he wasn’t smart with his money, nor smart with his relationship management. I know plenty of men that are no longer married but have money and relationships with their children too. Sounds like he could also be the problem, alcohol, grumpy all the time, out of shape…. The list goes on. I got 300k reasons a year that it is well worth it if you are smart with money 😂😂😂

[@rrocketman]

Wouldn't you plan leave for childrens bdays?

[@Fenndog]

@@rrocketman yeah he did it wrong for sure 😂😂 He’s got nothing to show cause he did it wrong and has no idea how women work. I’m doing it and I’ll guarantee I work 40% more than he did. I don’t spend money just cause I have it, I have savings that would spin your head and I’ll be retired early with a business running this is not a career, this is a great way to make bull money fast.

[@Red.OG.]

I never did it, so many of my friends did and all got nice houses and cars and boats and also got divorced and kids don’t wanna see them cause they don’t know them.

[@kenlee-97]

That's fuked up!!!- these men are most probably heart broke now ...

[@Red.OG.]

@@kenlee-97 yep, so many commit suicide

[@Researchthejoos]

Nice houses hahah Wow who cares about that at all

[@Shrouded_reaper]

Most people who don't work in the mines also end up with a divorce and fucked up families.

[@wheressteve]

​​@@Researchthejoosbut the boyfriends of the wives enjoyed the nice homes the husbands paid for by working away from home.

[@adiintel1]

Never did FIFO work. Worked in a mining town there was no roster for me and few others i worked for 7 days a week 12 hour days only time we got off is if we called in sick or just quit i did 4 years off that and left the sector im glad i got out with my mental health intact.

[@adiintel1]

@teamcoalhapcharcoal days of were listed only time we had off was if work slowed down wich rarely did. You could have holidays but they did threaten you that you would be lucky to even have a job when you came back. I worked in a very toxic work environment. Once worked picked up elsewhere other company's paying better and much better conditions 80% of the workforce left in less then 6-8 months core staff too.

[@andy1179]

I've been doing FIFO for some 6 years now, 4/2 , 2/1 etc and yes , you lose one day travel going over , one coming home, so on a 2/1 roster there's not much family time to be had at home , the majority of your life is spent in 50 degree heat doing 12 hr shifts for awesome pay , no matter how many gyms , tennis courts or councillors they throw at the problem, in 10 years time the only people that will remember that you've worked every new years eve , christmas and birthday will be your family ! Great lifestyle for a young unattached person to safe up money quickly, as long as you don't spend it all on toys and get too used to it or stay in too long as all your friends are likely to move on and get married leaving you wealthy but lonely

[@MikeyPaper]

Bingo

[@nickhutt6264]

Well don't do it then. No ones putting a gun to your head.

[@pa1264]

I use to work 28 days on 9 days off back in 2015, i video call my family every day I would do all over again, it really helps if you have a supportive partner and a family goal to work towards.

[@Researchthejoos]

Get away from that rubbish life Cyber relationship sounds so depressing

[@stephanecoffin1725]

Work as driller 2.1, absolutely love it. I d honestly prefer be up there with all facilities, food good mate then be able to go 4wd or holidays over my week off. City jobs will never allow you that lifestyle. Not suited for all.

[@oringo556]

How do I get into this life?

[@deooptimomaximo9843]

How old are you? Do you have a family and how did you get into this lifestyle?

[@Dankyjrthethird]

here in Canada i know guys that work 3 weeks on 3 weeks off at the Baffinland mine in nunavut. Insanely remote place. Can't imagine what that's like, 12 hour shifts in -50C in the winter for 3 weeks would be unlivable for me. Food is bomb af tho

[@followingtheroe1952]

I work in the north 3/3 but not there. Ive heard its a gulag in Baffinland. but recently on the news they laid off like what a hundred guys and are down to a skeleton crew ☠ Foods the best part of the job lmao also bein up this far is alright if you gotta cushy camp job, but hats off to all the guys on the road out there and doin what needs doing outside during winter operations Also its god damn beautiful in Nunavut right now, 20-30c and 23 hour sun lol just watch out for grizzlies lolol

[@jasonswift7098]

The video is not about canadian fly in fly out its Australian.

[@OffGridInvestor]

Well THIS IS WHAT YOU GET when you take on high paying mining jobs.

[@Pist4chio]

wonder why people go to fifo when they already have kids or wife, u should do it in ur 20s. people act dumb then regret it for all their lives lol

[@DarrenForbes-cu4cj]

Lots of good people fought the good fight to create conditions to avoid these problems, but you lot pissed them all up against the wall for the mighty dollar. Reap what you sew.

[@joshsavage5192]

The sad music makes this even more dumb…looks like he just hasn’t taken care of himself period…people value what they value, but to me it seems like mental and physical health is what’s scarce…

[@manofwar577]

So glad to be out of mining. It set me up financially, but it is the worst job. You work with some of the laziest ppl you could find, and its the exact same shit day in day out.

[@Researchthejoos]

Aboriginals

[@lukea9873]

about to start 7 on 7 off as a driller in qld. I work 52 hrs a week in the meatworks industry, hit up gym everyday after work then get home cook dinner fall asleep. Atleast with mining i'll be getting a week off.

[@KanyeKetchup]

How's it going for you as a drillers offsider? I'm going to W.A to begin my Fifo life soon

[@lukea9873]

@@KanyeKetchup its alright man, you get sore the first few weeks but it gets better. I do gas drainage in queensland i dunno how different it is in W.A, just always wear gloves, make sure you lift things correctly and keep your hands clear when you put down the rods. I dunno if your on surface it might be different

[@YABOII885]

How do you go about applying

[@kenlee-97]

​@@lukea9873gotta ask- is it exhausting work lifts all the whole day?

[@jimmyjames8573]

​@@lukea9873so I take it you're underground?

[@kobrapromotions]

im only 6 years in the industry leading hand, no wife or kids. And tbh I love it, its made for some not most. I get to job down the track from camp aswell and dunk in the river, or we have a pub on site. I don't mind it my swing is 23 on 5 off

[@kobrapromotions]

some days i dont even bother flying home, just steal a work ute and go into the closest town

[@kobrapromotions]

saving for a catamaran 38 - 48 ft

[@pevebe]

@@kobrapromotions Don't sound too bad mate. How's the life these days?

[@bernie9150]

Done for FIFO for 35 years and all it does is fuks your life !

[@Rylie1971]

How much money were they being paid? It's a choice. You choose fifo, big money. You choose not fifo, some other career, not as much money. It's pretty simple really. Not much point complaining about the choices that you make. You made 'em.

[@wizard2755]

Diamond Drillers are what real men become

[@Noimcuban]

working in cell towers ive been out of town for a week or 2 and been gone for over 90 days across the country.. but im single with no kids so i love it

[@Scotford_Maconochie]

I'm in that situation doing 7 days on 7 days off. But I'm finding myself staying longer than 7 days often.

[@AntonioGarcia-zr9uc]

I've seen a lot of yacht crew have similar problems... many that I've known over the years have ended up homeless on the street, picking up ciggy butts off the pavement to smoke or becoming fentanyl addicts...

[@rikdownunda]

that's the problem, people are willing to do it for the money. don't do it. simple. I earn $45 per hour 40hr week at home. My brother bragged he was earning over $100 p/h. Lost his family (estranged) and permanently disabled from a stroke. he loved the fucking money at the time, let me tell you.

[@degreaser1263]

Look i will be honest, i have done it for 5 years now. I enjoy the 2:2 roster. But this lifestyle isnt for everyone. You do sacrifice to get paid well and support your family. But thats what you have to do

[@gregsanford3848]

I did fifo ive seen men say they get to see more of the family that way,i said give it 5-10 yrs when your worn out,kids left home,ask yaself what ya missed out on by chasing the $$$$

[@ML6103]

They make out like you get paid so much. I call bullshit. You get paid crap but youre doing 12 hours a day with nowhere to spend it. That's where the money is. When you add up what you give for what you get, its a pittance

[@deeppocketz5487]

It’s a good thing you don’t get to spend it while you’re on swing. Save and invest or buy you a couple toys. Trust you aren’t gonna get a 100k plus job in the city with no skills

[@ML6103]

@@deeppocketz5487 who said I have no skills? Wtf is wrong with you people 😂 yes I have around 150k a year job in the city but I work the full year.

[@jasonmaguire7552]

Then don't take the job

[@ML6103]

@@jasonmaguire7552 congratulations. You're officially part of the problem. Grow up.

[@keithcragg6474]

Do you get paid for your time off

[@unionswa7648]

No. Of course much FIFO work in the resources sector is very well paid, but since the pandemic, rosters have gotten worse in terms of down time with family or to recover

[@kurtmcl]

Can't handle it? Don't do it!

[@johnmellon379]

I done 2 years at Wheatstone on the 28/7 roster. Now suffer panic attacks from fatigue which I never experienced before. And it's 7 years later!

[@nickhutt6264]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RichardLaempasa]

Oh yes.... really your job as supervisor in mining so i listen you say 28 day on and 7 day off.where your mining area and where you from sir,,?

[@unionswa7648]

Ray was retired when we interviewed him. Sadly he passed away a few months ago.

[@gav6808]

The best is equal time on and off.

[@stephenp.farrelly2296]

IS this still going on today in 2022 ? The eastern states do 7/7 on/off ...... at worst 2/1 on /of. Ive done various rosters over 19 years ....7/7 WAS THE BEST FIFO & DIDO

[@unionswa7648]

During the pandemic many resource corps went back to 28/7 cycles and even before then roster were getting worse, not better.

[@stephenp.farrelly2296]

28 On / 7 off = 4 weeks on / 1 week off NO WAY its not worth the $$$$

[@cobenfoster7048]

@@unionswa7648 Then why is it more mines are picking up 7/7. Goldfields for example has. So how are they getting worse and worse.

[@FekDindad-xy9vz]

4/1 is common in construction. 2/1 or 8/6 is typical for operation. There's some onsite office stuff at 4/3. And a few sites do 2/2. Or go shutdowns and work every single day of the year. It honestly depends what you want. If you don't want to work 4 weeks on then don't take that job. Go get an Operations job at 8/6.

[@cobenfoster7048]

If you don’t like your job, switch your mine site or company or get a job back in the city if you don’t like fifo.

[@CocoTVx]

It's a "If you are in this situation you would understand" it's not easy finding a job that can pay as good as fifo does which is why people get stuck in this.

[@cobenfoster7048]

@@CocoTVx I know I work fifo. But if your going to cry to your union that your getting home sick or that your roster is too long then switch mine sites or company’s or just move back to the city.

[@raymotovlog9476]

Mang jobs. But you choose fifo. Always good salary we want.

[@chaddyboi7198]

​@@cobenfoster7048Spoken like a true boomer great attitude 😂 and you're missing the point as well

[@youtubyoutub2304]

Let’s be real your family consists of teenagers you harass on your alt Instagram so of course this is your stance

[@cal3908]

Yep

[@daz091000]

Ths rosters shud be illegal...even time only no day nite also

[@deeppocketz5487]

🐱

[@seane5058]

28 and 7 is where the money is son. quit ya winging

[@olliejj3104]

Whats the point when tax is getting too high and you are working more for the goverment. work harder and get paid less.

[@jasonmaguire7552]

​@@olliejj3104then tell the unions to stop supporting the ALP

[@mujeebayyil6152]

Sir iam looking for a worker job. With your rich experience and know ledge it is very easy to help me, iam ready to work with you or anyone

[@IsThisHandleTaken]

Workers: We need a better schedule that allows us to have time with our loved ones Boss: How about a phone number you can call so you can get some breathing techniques?

[@Wildminecraftwolf]

You choose your job, if you dont like it, Leave. Everyone is responsible for themselves, nobody is coming to save you.

[@garethwest9069]

She will give birth to a Son; and you shall name Him Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins. - Matthew 1:21

[@Wildminecraftwolf]

@garethwest9069 sorry you have been indoctrinated into believing fairytales😔

[@adamkelly4308]

clean your house

[@wayneburns8071]

Harden up or don't go into that job simple

[@CodeNameV13]

Did a year in the Pilbara/Kimberly on road construction. Two weeks on, one off. The heat, which got to 40 +, 70 on the road. The conditions alone were enough to cause a meltdown, not to mention the cowboys on site. After witnessing my crew leader get hit and killed by an lv on site, I quit. No amount of money is worth your life.

[@gandalf2256]

70 on the road if you're putting your face to it ya drongo. STFU 70 degrees fuckn hell dude no one cares. Taking the piss don't off ya self bloke

[@booboogum3012]

That not that harsh I use to do 28 days 2 days off then back too it.

[@ToheMangaMan]

Hell yeah...I remember those days, early 80s, 21 days straight (7am-7pm), 3 days break then back into it (NZ), then in Oz, 28 days (7am-7pm), 3 days off...burnt me out BIG time but it sure was fun pissing all that dosh up against the wall !!! Party, party...drugs, sex, and booze. Hell of an experience for a 19yr old.

[@ManaBlack208]

Oh yeah slavery