Arminian and Calvinism Theology

[@jayonnaj18]

God gets ALL of the credit for enabling you to preach the truth of the Bible, dear Pastor John! Been saved going on 45 years now, having responded and believing in the saving grace of Jesus Who opened my lost, blind eyes! I LOVE HIM, BECAUSE HE FIRST LOVED ME! The more I read and study the Scriptures the more I grow spiritually and the happier I am even in stressful situations! Thank you, Ps John, for your faithfulness and obedience to Jesus Christ!!!💕

[@yafois988]

uuuuhhmm, NOOO! A holy God doesn't send these filthy false prophets and their satanic Manichaeism theology to humanity, He WARNS ppl about them with his Apostles! Galatians 7-9, 2 John 11!!!

[@doug2993]

I got saved through the preaching of John at 19 years old, 30 years ago. I have listened to thousands of his sermons since then. This is one of his best!

[@TruthwillPrevail7938]

That's exceptional. One Thousand sermons a year is 19 sermons a week, every week.

[@globalyexperts1589]

@@TruthwillPrevail7938 u sounds arminian isnt? He wasnt actually meant thousand sermons a year he said thousands of sermons since then which simply means many.

[@TruthwillPrevail7938]

@@globalyexperts1589 I Don't have a Made brand burnt onto my backside. I spent over two years night and day ready the Bible, before I went to a church. (Missionary Baptist). I never saw any indication of a God such as the Calvinists teaches in the Bible. Instead I saw the God of all creation in Jesus Christ who had love and compassion for sinners and loathed the nose in the air early Calvinists (Pharisees and Roman Catholic). I know two years is nothing but that was Thirty years ago. I cannot lose my salvation, I can't do anything to keep or lose it. All Christians have histories they aren't proud of but they learned and came out stronger in the faith. I yearn for the Word and the Rapture daily. I hope you do too.

[@TruthwillPrevail7938]

How do you know you are part of the elect and not just another religious person?

[@doug2993]

@@TruthwillPrevail7938 That’s easy, love for the Lord and a love of His word.

[@timgilbert760]

I was depressed for several days when I found out I had nothing to do with my salvation. But thank the Lord I didn't. What a mess I would have made of it if I had. God steers us along the path he wants us to walk to fulfill his plan or purpose in the scheme of things here in this world. Glory be to God..

[@flybunny58]

95 percent of my family are Pentecostal the pastor is my cousin so to get them to understand is really difficult they spend all their time raising millions to spread the gospel but no one knows were the money go's nobody's paid no bibles bought no missionary sent their worst then most cult groups and they do it because their works are the results of their faith, and because the church targets the poor there trapped until they get worn out that they abandon the faith they thought they once had, to try picking up the pieces is difficult because there afraid of failing again. sadddd

[@patriot4780]

Tim Gilbert the reality is that we are as helpless as the criminal on the cross to do anything to earn our salvation. As someone who was raised Roman Catholic, the thought that I can contribute nothing to my salvation was offensive to me. It WAS offensive to me, but in hindsight, it’s a load off to know that I’m justified by faith. Has it changed the way I live? I’m a work in progress, but by the grace of God, and the leading from the Holy Spirit, I’m not the way I used to be. I would love to get a hold of the younger me and tell him a few things, because I was ignorant and self-centered.

[@joseph880]

AMEN

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Amen

[@timothyhodges705]

@@patriot4780 the reason for feeling helpless, is when we first heard the gospel, the Holy Spirit convicted us of our guilt. The answer to the forgiveness is believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (Romans 3:24-26; John 3:16-18, Romans 10:9-17). The tension that comes from Calvinism is dispersed from the confused theology from the likes of John Macarthur, Steven Lawson, and Voddie Baucham's teachings. 1Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints." Here in this passage, Paul explains the arguments of who should be teaching, like women. Today we argue over what is true: Calvinism. Reformed theology. Think about that... "Reformed." Did the words of the Bible need reforming? No. We do. Thus came Jesus Christ. It's a 33 year old story written in the four synoptic Gospels. Calvin's dogma came from way beyond the writers of the Bible. His institutes for Christian Living bear no accurate citations from the Bible. Historical accounts say he was a dispotical lawyer who demanded obedience to his "decrees, or face jail time or worse, like being burned at the stake.

[@stephenryan6591]

Studying through Romans for my men’s group I was leading recently, when I got to realizing what is in Romans 9 this doctrine of election came alive to me and like John has said before when you come to a knowledge of this, the lights go on and you realize this is revealed all throughout scripture.

[@markwills3602]

No it is not! Why does any one listen to Calvin, he was a despicable person murdered at least 41 people. NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE do you find the statement We are predestined to Salvation - not there. Romans 1 also says "They KNEW God but did not honor him as God, so God gave them over to their ungodly desires." Then Paul says when they die and go to Hell "They have no excuse!" If God chooses who will be saved - They would have an excuse. So we have disproved Irresistable grace and God decides who goes to heaven all in one. And through in the fact there is also free will, "Although they knew the truth they decided - THEY DECIDED - not to follow. But wordhipped the creation and not the Creator!! Original Sin - Total agreement - but only because Romans 5-6-7 teach it!!! In fact Calvin's point of view can be disproven not just in Romans 1 - but also in John 3:16 and verse 18 as well. Why, If someone does not beleive Jesus says they are condemned already - so even Jesus teaches that free will is present in OUR CHOICES!!! God's Choice is everyone will get saved!!

[@prestonbrowning264]

@@markwills3602 Obviously you have your mind made up. Just be convinced in your own mind. I get it, I used to make the same arguments you are making now. Which is why I am not going to push any points, but I am going to tell you why I believe what I believe. What appeals to me about reformed theology is that we don't attempt to solve apparent issue of God's sovereignty and human responsibility with a concept of human autonomy that I do not find in the bible. We live in the tension because that is what the bible seems to do. However, I would hope we could both agree that neither of us is totally right. Each of us have flaws in our theology. Sure, I think I am right and you think you are. Where we agree are the essentials. We agree that God alone saves. That Christ is the only way. That God is Triune. That Christ's sacrifice is the only payment for sins. And I could go on. My father who I respect as a bible teacher more than any, is an Arminian, and we can enjoy fellowship together. I apologize if I sounded harsh in my comment earlier. I try to approach this topic with love because it gets so heated. I agree with Spurgeon that the old Arminian standard is the same as we believe, apart from the operation of the Holy Spirit, no man is saved.

[@prestonbrowning264]

@@markwills3602 Human autonomy is not biblical and that is the very thing you are trying to preserve. The Bible clearly says in Romans 8 that those foreknown are predestined to be conformed, and those predestined are called, those called are justified, and those justified are glorified. If you twist that and ignore the link between those foreknown, predestination, calling, justification, and glorification to say "well it doesn't say predestined to salvation, it only says to be conformed", then I don't know what I can do for you. It is the natural reading of the bible. To your point about Romans 1. Yes, every single person knows of God, and has enough knowledge to be condemned. If you say that passage means everyone is able to please God by faith and repentance apart from God granting it by bestowing grace upon them, then I lose you there as well. Please understand, your objections are not new. They have been stated time and time again. They have been answered, but people don't like the answers, therefore, there are different theologies. And that is ok as long as you attempt to be faithful to the Bible and I think that you are. Let's agree to disagree, and let us both be sharpened by one another and encouraged by one another to study further.

[@firstjohnonenine8786]

@@markwills3602 he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, Ephesians 1:5

[@abuelb]

@@markwills3602 obviously you don't understand the scripture especially Romans 8 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. (Romans 8:29-30, ESV). The whole theme is about salvation!!!!!!!!!

[@45Nasman]

This truth is undeniable throughout Scripture. Pride crushing. God honouring. Eternal gratitude and glorification of God will ring throughout the ages.

[@happyforever1528]

Hallelujah Nasi , God has opened your eyes to see His truth , for as the scripture says , Many are called but few are chosen ! .

[@happyforever1528]

Yes ! and Absolutely so ,and indeed Sad to say , fallen nature tries to take the glory that belongs to God and Him Alone , very well put Nasi ! Cheers and God Bless !

[@happyforever1528]

Hallelujah !.

[@happyforever1528]

Amen and Hallelujah !.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

amen

[@SavedBySweetGrace]

The best pastor of our time. Love John MacArthur so much. Been so blessed by his godly wisdom and biblical teachings throughout the years.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Voddie Baucham or Steve Lawson best

[@happyforever1528]

Please give ALL of the Glory to God and Him Alone , for salvation is ALL by Grace alone , through faith alone In Christ alone , and ALL to the Glory of God Alone , Hallelujah ! .

[@happyforever1528]

@mrssherrielynn Why not email him and enlighten him , and by the way as an ex Romanist I agree with everything you say about this Awful system , I also have inlaws who are steeped in it up to their necks and would have it no other way to their detriment , regardless of how many times they are told the truth , but there again its only God who can make a Saint , and we can only tell them , Cheers and God Bless ! .

[@happyforever1528]

@@riclmena9395 No , but a Christian who's salvation is rooted in what Jesus Christ has done for me , plus I now wear His imputed Righteousness ! Hallelujah ! , and all praise and Glory be unto Him alone ! .

[@happyforever1528]

@@riclmena9395 That's a very stupid question to ask a born Again washed in the Blood of Jesus Christ Believer !.

[@Israesther777]

This is a faithful Bible expositor. I couldn't thank God enough for his teaching.

[@bernardauberson7218]

Il n’a aucune spiritualité ! Seul les dollars comptent pour lui ! Ça un chrétien ? Non mais, vous y croyez encore ?

[@malka8901]

Thank you for giving all the verses showing we can do nothing but for the Holy Spirit in us.

[@DB-cx6cb]

The most influential preacher of the day. Who will step in his shoes when he passes. I see so many churches dying trying to be all things to all people and preaching so watered down for growing it is sickening. I listen to John every night before going to sleep and love his sound doctrinal stand of the gospel f Jesus Christ my Savior and Lord!❤

[@happyforever1528]

The tars are already sewn among the wheat , but Almighty God already knows whom He has chosen and given them a love for the truth which is the word of God , they cannot be fooled by false preachers , not for long anyway !.

[@danimaldanjidov6883]

You are terrific, I Echo word for word what you said and don't even need to reply because you said it all for me. I'll see you in heaven sweet person. You are spot-on.

[@jameschappell-ih4cw]

Look at all you Calvinists. So sure are you of your own personal salvation. You embrace Johnny’s abhorrent five point Calvinists, which taken to its logical conclusion puts non elect babies in hell, but that’s a pill you will gladly swallow if you are elect. If you understand this theology and its implications correctly, I wonder how you sleep at night, and if you don’t, hit the books and stop isolating verses that you think support the horrendous doctrines of total depravity and unconditional election. God is love and that love is unconditional. The good news is His kingdom not your individual election.

[@emmanuel5566]

​@@jameschappell-ih4cwDuring the Exodus, the death of angel killed all the firstborn, that included infants too. Now how do you think about that? How will that let you sleep on it?

[@jameschappell-ih4cw]

@@emmanuel5566 Well my question is how do YOU explain it? God does as he pleases, sure, but you Calvinists take one example from Scripture and paint it over the entire history and future of salvation and the world. Just because He did what you described that in no way shape of form means he send babies to hell. How do you even make that connection? If that is what you think, you need to check your reasoning. Nowhere in the bible does it say that is what always happens or that it means non elect babies go to hell. But Calvinism has only internal logic. It cannot survive external examination because it falls apart.

[@cm_x7235]

John McArthur, is probably one the greatest preachers of our time

[@luboshcamber1992]

I think possibly of all time.

[@mannycano4599]

So where does Spurgeon fit in?

[@mannycano4599]

Yeah, I really don't think John MacArthur is one of the greatest preachers of all time. That's somewhat absurd to even think that is true

[@andrewburrow3118]

Actually Christ Jesus is the true best teacher of all time!!! He taught the other teachers by the Holy Spirit!!!

[@7nogard6]

Voddie Baucham and R.C. Sproul are just as good!

[@jreese8284]

An encouragement for parents with wayward children: 1. God has to do the work in their hearts. 2. We are called to pray that He will continue to work, that He will be pleased to grant them repentance. Thank you, brother MacArthur.

[@CS-bn4un]

Amen and Amen!

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@CS-bn4un amen

[@happyforever1528]

The wonderful thing about the chosen is they were forgiven their sins when Jesus Christ died upon the cross , before many were even born , Chosen by God the Father In Jesus Christ before the world was made , not because of any good He foresaw in them , but simply because He loved them , they are called into the knowledge of that salvation at their appointed time , what can be more WONDERFUL then That ??? .

[@johnloftin2461]

and if he doesn"t? If your wayward child or my wayward child is blessed to glorify God by sovereignly ordained eternal suffering? What would you say to that God? Please think in terms of very real eternal suffering.

[@harrymurray9702]

@@johnloftin2461 What is your point? This is God's decision... What can we do to change his mind? Can we move Jesus Christ? Absolutely not, and Jesus Stated not all would be saved clearly. I wish all would be saved, it isnt my decision.

[@dustincampbell4835]

Once God opens your eyes to see these truths in Scripture you cannot unsee them, and so many things click into place. I'm so thankful for the ministry of John MacArthur even though his teachings once used to make me so mad lol

[@johnmguzman7491]

He belongs in 'TULIP'?

[@dustincampbell4835]

@@johnmguzman7491 if you're asking if John MacArthur is Reformed, then yes he is :)

[@David_Watts]

His teachings STILL make my relatives mad!! 😆 They are into prosperity etc, and can't see (what he) has been allowed to teach, with the conviction of the Holy Spirit. The Lord has ABSOLUTELY blessed us with such a wonderful teacher...🙏🙏

[@geraldpolmateer3255]

@@dustincampbell4835 all of the reformers were pedobaptists. Calvin believed in a city of Zion.

[@JakkWagon]

​@@David_WattsOf course: they refuse to repent yet say they have god their puppets approval. They are enemies of Christ and grace.

[@donblosser8720]

Why I am neither a Calvinist nor Arminian: I Cor. 1:10 "I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. 11 For it has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. 12 What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? ... 31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

[@iacoponefurio1915]

The real reason is you do not know believe or understand any of the bible and have never been properly taught anything. But you are too embarrassed self righteous and competitive in your darkness to admit it.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

You have no idea what Christianity is.

[@donblosser8720]

@@iacoponefurio1915 You have no idea how to make a logical, biblical argument. You are just raving mindlessly against a direct quotation of the Holy Bible.

[@InChristalone737]

I thought for years I made the first move and God saved me. I didn’t know the Bible. It’s so clear

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Yes sir of course Total depravity

[@77ronboy]

I, like millons of other Christians who were blinded, am right there with you. "IF" we played any active part in our own Salvation, then we would be taking some of the credit, which means we would be robbing God of the credit that belongs to Him alone.

[@happyforever1528]

We All were in the same boat ,its only when we start to grow in the knowledge of the Bible that we see what we have been taught is up the Creek , that's called Arminianism Its an old Heresy brought by the Jesuit's , its the halfway house back to RC Heretical System , it was brought by one called Jacob Arminius , hence the name , he was tried and found to be a heretic ! .

[@happyforever1528]

That's called Arminianism , what is called Another Gospel , and it gives no assurance of anything , its all down to man , Heresy !.many say it is the path leading back to Rome ! steer clear of it , and if you are in it come out of it !.

[@happyforever1528]

I should think we All thought that until the Holy Spirit opened our eyes to see how Blessed we are to have been chosen by our Almighty God and Father in Jesus Christ Before the world was made , its such a Amazingly Wonderful thing to happen to sinners like us , Hallelujah !.

[@russellgallinat1541]

Thank you Pastor MacArthur. I believed this from the beginning, yet exposed to so much error in theology, so much self-image teaching, that it’s been only by God’s grace that I’ve been shown the truth about my own dead condition. Thank God for the truth of the Gospel!

[@shellynewton32]

Very favorite preacher forever. Fellow believers, remember me as I witness to Mormons in Rigby, ID.

[@raifcluster]

"Long my imprisoned spirit lay, fast bound in sin and nature's night. Thine eye diffused a quickening ray, I woke, the dungeon flamed with light. My chains fell off, my heart was free! I arose, went forth, and followed Thee!"

[@happyforever1528]

Hallelujah ! .

[@happyforever1528]

Thats the way we All are before our conversion , Dead in trespasses and sins , and not inclined to God in any way , But thanks be to God and Father Who even before the world was made choose to Himself out of All humanity , yes even before we were born and gave us to His Only Son Jesus Christ to die in our place to pay for ALL of our sins and indeed make us Holy and without stain before Him in love , we were only brought into the knowledge of that salvation on receiving His Gift of Faith , Salvation is all of God from beginning to end and nothing of man . Cheers and God Bless !.

[@saludanite]

@@happyforever1528 No one taught these things before the Reformation. Jesus certainly did NOT! He said that unless you repent, you shall likewise perish. Jesus taught his disciples to heal the sick, and to cast out demons. Your instructors don't believe these things can be done, when they should be doing them regularly. Then Jesus told them to teach THEIR baptized disciples to do EVERYTHING that He had instructed THEM! Where will you find Jesus' instructions? In the Gospels. You have a LOT of reading to do. Turn MacArthur off and get to work!

[@raifcluster]

@@happyforever1528 amen!

[@eternalpeaceandjoy]

My favorite song- I sing it daily!🎵

[@19marino61]

Heard a preacher say during the alter call , “ you can choose today to be reborn”

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Typical fake western revivlaist easy believism

[@douglassmith7371]

Reborn takes a lifetime

[@briansnow8980]

When I was truly converted, divine election made complete sense to me, although at first I was hesitant. I grew up in a very legalistic environment, a charasmatic Pentecostal denomination. Where you are constantly on guard, able to lose your salvation with any sin, and could die and go to hell if not fully repentant and completely clear of all sin before death. It was a nightmare. After truly becoming a Christian, almost 20 years later, I listened to and read MacArthur and sproul. I realized I had it all wrong and it was like a light bulb going off in my head, everything made sense and the Word of God became plain and clear. I also came to the realization that I was helplessly lost and unable to free myself absent God,s intervention.

[@flybunny58]

Thanks for the comment I grew up the same way, my whole family believes like that around 70 in all I'm like the only one in my family that believes salvation is not dependent on the measure of my faith its dependent on the promise of God that I am sealed to the day of redemption and no one can snatch me out of the fathers hand.

[@K4VTE1818]

Awesome

[@NarrowPathDoctrine]

So, so good. Excellent teaching and completely and truthfully biblically sound.

[@jeffouellette9946]

No true. The reason why Paul no longer a child of wrath is because he crucified the flesh and died to himself daily.

[@mikemccormick9667]

@@jeffouellette9946 All because of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@jeffouellette9946 no space case Saul was blinded and knocked down by a vision from God on His way to arrest Christians that's the only reason He even stopped hating Yeshua. You dont have a brain cell functioning properly lying fake hypocrite.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@jeffouellette9946 Read the actual bible sheesh

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@jeffouellette9946 snake offspring

[@kensteel9872]

Grace Alone Faith alone And that very Faith is a Gift from God You didnt earn it or develop it God gifted it to you

[@brockmitchell3989]

Amen!

[@happyforever1528]

Roman 10 : 17 , Faith cometh by the hearing , and hearing by the word of God !.

[@happyforever1528]

Romans 10 : 17 , But faith cometh by Hearing , and hearing by the Word of God !.Grace is the Gift of God spoken of ! .

[@kurtweiand7086]

There once was a time l thought this doctrine of unconditional election to be false. However as l grow in GRACE and in the knowledge of the word of God, it seems to be impossible to ignore. Not very popular 😕 . But heh, after Jesus taught his followers this in John 6 many left, except the 12. Peter spoke up, "where else could we go..we believe you are the son of God." Jesus's answer, "Didn't l chose you the 12. Can't really miss that one!

[@happyforever1528]

@@kurtweiand7086 That's because it is impossible to ignore , Cheers ! .

[@Dev-jq8ch]

What is so hard to give ALL Glory to GOD?

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Not a single human has ever nor will they YHVH God is the author of the veil that blinds them Isaiah 6

[@detached]

Many think it does violence to God's character, thinking it makes him the author of evil, sin, etc. Of course He says is in control of all things AND Holy. They don't understand so they refuse to submit to it. Human pride...

[@happyforever1528]

That's fallen mans EGO ! .

[@happyforever1528]

Its because the prince of the power of the air wants to keep us in ignorance of our GREAT SALVATION already worked for us by our wonderful Almighty God ! .

[@happyforever1528]

The unregenerated will hates that , it must claim some of the Glory for self ! .

[@jasonscroger5065]

Good night, daily reminded of my poverty of spirit apart from the grace of the Lord Jesus

[@DavidMccallister65]

"CHOOSE this day whom you will serve." "I set before you Life and Death; CHOOSE Life."

[@JakkWagon]

In Adam ALL men DIE not too complicated cultboy simp propaganda regurgitator brainwashed minion 🤥🤦

[@foundations101]

Who said this? To whom? NB: God's people can choose because they have been saved. Sinners can't choose life.

[@todddetz1118]

You’ve supplied 1 verse to try and contradict the hundreds of other verses that say otherwise. Scripture doesn’t contradict itself so you must ask what is the context, who said this and to whom?

[@DavidMccallister65]

@todddetz1118 you're right. Scripture doesn't contradict itself, and there are hundreds of other verses that make it clear that God gives each and every person a choice. YOU are contradicting that.

[@foundations101]

@@DavidMccallister65 Which comes first, the conviction of the Spirit, then the Choice? OR the Choice, then the conviction of the Spirit? If you pick the first you mean, new birth occurs before one can see to pick the Kingdom (Jn 3:3) If you pick the second you mean, a person sees God's kingdom before new birth (_______)

[@phillipgriffiths9624]

I have been a Calvinist for 47 years and I have never heard anything to make me change my mind.

[@peterpulpitpounder]

What about those mentioned in the bible who "might" [potentially] have been saved? It says "might", so the potential existed, the opportunity existed, and these people will be held accountable for not believing. But, of course, the Calvanist viewpoint says they have no capacity to believe, and that God has to produce the faith, etc. If that is the case, then how could these people have potentially been redeemed? ("might").

[@eleazarfernandez9369]

I recommend beyond the fundamentals, a video called election is nothing like you were told. He has a few videos about Calvinism. He helped me realize some flaws with Calvinist theology and also realize how every Calvinist is taught that arminianism is the opposite but it's simply a branch from Calvinism and equally wrong

[@peterpulpitpounder]

I've always said that there are "four" legs to chair. Take one away, and you'll end up on the floor. Bringing the various truths of scripture together in harmony and balance is critical. Our appreciates the "clear" fundamentals of Scripture, without getting bogged down debating and discussing matters that will not be resolved until heaven overtakes this world. There's enough spiritual food to devour on the table that has been set before us to choke on the harder vittles of theology. I know many people who have no idea what the TULIP acrostic represents, and they are fine, godly Christian folk. :) @@eleazarfernandez9369

[@happyforever1528]

Calvinism is but the word of God , it did not come from man but from God , for we are saved by Grace Alone, through Faith Alone , in Jesus Christ Alone , and All to the Glory of God Alone ! .

[@peterpulpitpounder]

Um, Calvinism is NOT the gospel. Sure, it contains gospel truth, but it is NOT the gospel, any more than dispensationalism is the gospel. I know a girl who got saved in a Calvinistic based church, then later in her walk with the Lord she came to disagree with certain elements taught by the church, and subsequently left and joined another solid Christian church with views more in harmony with her personal convictions. That church gasped at her decision, very similar to a cult group who thinks it has a monopoly on truth. Sadly, some Calvinistic churches have taken on the spirit of a cult group, seeking to promote its way of thinking at the expense of the pure, simple message of the Cross. I've preached for 30 years in the same place. We rarely talk about John Calvin, the subject and debate surrounding Calvinism, and most people don't know much about nor care about the TULIP acrostic. And it's amazing how lovely and godly these folks are! In fact, it some respects I'm glad they live in ignorance to some of this "stuff" people spend their whole lives debating. They have the essential under their belts, and that's all that truly matters. @@happyforever1528

[@dmeachy]

Like Pastor Swindoll said one time recently: "He is God, and I am not." Even our so-called free will is a form of self-righteousness. Powerful message.

[@happyforever1528]

Freewill in no more then Arminianism Heresy , brought into our country by John Wesley , Its a man centred gospel and nothing to do with the real thing ,the real thing is =, Salvation is All of God from beginning to end , For we are saved by Grace Alone , through Faith Alone , in Jesus Christ Alone , and All to the Glory of God Alone , Cheers and God Bless !.

[@peterpulpitpounder]

No, freewill is not a form of self-righteousness. Even the Bible says, "They believed not the love of the truth, that they MIGHT be saved." This MIGHT does not fit the typical Calvinist view on the human condition. Yes, salvation is of God, but man is not totally passive in terms of repentance, faith and personal volition.

[@dmeachy]

And the beat goes on.@@peterpulpitpounder

[@happyforever1528]

Salvation is all by Grace Alone, through Faith Alone , in Jesus Christ Alone , and All to the Glory of God Alone ! .@@peterpulpitpounder

[@happyforever1528]

The word Pride comes to mind ! .

[@lynnadams9478]

Thank you 🤗 Sir ! Acts 16:14

[@happyforever1528]

Acts 13 : 37 - 38, Eph 1 : 3 - 7 , Col 13 : 14 ! .Cheers and God Bless !

[@happyforever1528]

Acts 13 : 48 ! .and as many as were ORDAINED to ETERNAL LIFE Believed !.

[@georgeforyan113]

John MacArthur impresses me very much because he speaks clearly, he motions modestly and speaks directly to the point of his message and doesn't declare that he is always right but maintains as to what the bible tells him in his own understanding. He stands firm with his knowledge of what he understands and knows he does not have all the answers about God. He does not run around on his podium like a wild idiot, nor shouts into the microphone with a loud voice as though no one can hear him and acts likes someone extremely high on caffeine and that impresses me the most

[@mikem3789]

Yes, he is astutely adept at talking out of both sides of his mouth 👍

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@mikem3789 you just aren't smart enough to understand anything truthful.

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

You haven't read the Bible. Calvinism is Satanic

[@jimkraft9445]

Yes He does. He preaches salvation by grace and adds works. Romans 11:6. If we add one work to grace we have perverted the gospel of grace an preach works. Lordship salvation is works salvation which perverts the gospel of grace. He makes the cross of no effect. He denies the blood of Jesus which covers us from all sin, past, present, and future sins we have not even thought of yet. John 3:18. Believers can no longer be condemned, but unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. Colossians 2:13. He has forgiven us ALL trespasses. Not some, but ALL. The GIFT of God is eternal life. All we have to do is accept His full payment for our sin. Paid in full. John 3:18. Paul said in Galatians 1:6-9 Let him be accursed.

[@happyforever1528]

2 Tim 2 : 19 , The WESTMINISTER CONFESSION STATES , Those of mankind that are predestinated unto life , God before the foundation of the world was laid according to His Eternal and immutable purpose , and the secret council and good pleasure of His will has chosen in Christ , unto everlasting Glory , out of His mere free Grace and love , without any foresight of faith or good works or perseverance in either of them , or any other thing in the creature as conditions or causes moving Him thereunto , and all to the Praise and Glory of His grace .Eph 1 : 3 - 7 , Rom 8 : 30 , 2 Tim 1 : 19 , Thess : 5 : 9 , Rom 9 : 11, Enjoy and be Blessed !.

[@friendyadvice2238]

Great sermon

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

EVIL

[@alvinhickling901]

@@endtimesareuponus8930 you are for sure Satan !

[@etiennelouw9244]

I asked my pastor (Masters degree in Theology) if I was a Calvinistic Armenian or am Arministic Calvinist and he answered that I was just a Jesus follower.

[@happyforever1528]

Ha Ha Ha , in other words He did not know the difference !,

[@etiennelouw9244]

@@happyforever1528 He did, so do I, in the mind of God, it comes together.

[@happyforever1528]

Well that was his way of avoiding the question , its no wonder the so called church is in a bad way ! .

[@nikokapanen82]

@@etiennelouw9244 We, Jesus' followers, are still either leaning toward monergistic or synergistic theology. Monergism means that it was God alone who gave us a saving faith, it was a gift and not from us so we cannot boast and synergistic theology means that God only offered you salvation as He does to everybody and then you acted to take that offer and save yourself.

[@etiennelouw9244]

@@nikokapanen82 I know, can't you guys understand a joke?

[@lorrainethomas4736]

Excellent message! Thank you!😊

[@tonyrussell5058]

As a child I always loved God. But, I wasn’t saved since Zi never heard the Gospel in Catholic School. But, I must have always been one of the elect since the minute I first heard the Gospel, I readily accepted it. I’ve never been the same since then.

[@allendean9579]

one of the best messages ever!!!!!

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

Heretic

[@wesware3613]

Brother- Do you have a hunger for righteousness as he says here? How do I measure my hunger vs. yours to be saved? What if I’m not part of the elect? Does Jesus need you to continue to do good things to enter heaven? Wouldn’t that be discrediting the finished work of the whole point of Jesus in the first place? Questions to consider for yourself if you think this is the best message ever.

[@alvinhickling901]

@@wesware3613 not every one that says to me LORD LORD BUT he that DOES my fathers will ! move along !

[@wesware3613]

@@alvinhickling901 not sure what you’re referencing but what I do know is you’re saved by grace and believing in Jesus and having faith in him, trusting in that alone. You’re not saved by going around doing a bunch of good things “in the name of the father”. Johnny here thinks there is “living faith” and “dead faith”. Wrong. What good news is it to hear that now that you’re a Christian you have to make sure you do this and this and this and oh make sure you don’t do that and definitely repent of your sins if you did this that’s crossing the line, the line we just created and interpreted. Jesus loves you whether you sin or don’t sin- that’s the whole point of Him :)

[@alvinhickling901]

@@wesware3613 you know nothing of JESUS accusser of the Brethren ! Johny here is infinetly more qualified to Speak on JESUS behalf than you are ! and I have zero tolerance for your like JUDAS now buzz off !

[@kensteel9872]

If I had anything to do with my salvation I would 100% end up in hell every time

[@aletheia8054]

Amen

[@happyforever1528]

Same goes for all of us , we are saved Grace through faith and this is not of ourselves but is a gift from God and Not of works lest any man should boast !.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

AMen same

[@tarnos4153]

Thank you for the sermon, sir. It is refreshing. Who can stop God to do His will? He chose Abel over Cain, Jacob over Esau and Jesus chose the 12. Everything we have comes from God.

[@noradohm3073]

This is very very good! Amen! Amen!

[@gregwiele2502]

I confess with my mouth that Jesus is The Lord!! I believe with all of my heart that God raised Him from the dead. Glory and praise to God, In Jesus Name, Amen.

[@aletheia8054]

To confess does not mean to say “Jesus is Lord“. It’s the Greek word homolegeo. It means to say the same things as Christ the Lord. To be in agreement.

[@timothyhodges705]

Amen, Gregwiele2502, Jesus is LORD, and risen SAVIOR, not Calvin and his followers.

[@happyforever1528]

And you can only do that when you were given the Gift Of Faith ! .

[@dorianorossi]

Romans 10:9-11; Romans 10:9 if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved

[@happyforever1528]

Yes ! , and you can only believe that because God has given you the GIFT of Faith , for salvation is all by Grace through Faith , which is a gift from God , and Not of works lest any man should boast !.

[@andrewlawrencei3239]

Absolute true teaching 👌👌👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

No, complete Heresy. Please read the whole Bible.

[@andrewlawrencei3239]

@@endtimesareuponus8930 thank for suggestions, I pray that you will read your Bible also. Everyone have their own opinion, let God be the judge. I don’t trust anyone including the preachers. You can believe what you want, I will believe what the Bible said. I am a human and you a human we are all not perfect only God are perfect.

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

@@andrewlawrencei3239 I see you didn't read the whole Bible. If you did, you'd see this is heresy.

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

@@andrewlawrencei3239 what does I Timothy 2:5-6 say?

[@saludanite]

@@endtimesareuponus8930 Every MOMENT a man spends with Jesus will make him more loved by the Lord throughout eternity. The longer you read Calvin, the more likely Jesus will say, "Do I even KNOW you?"

[@Santaanacanyon]

I admire the fact that MacArthur does ALL his research. Our churches have pastors who were taught by professors who never read ONE WORD Calvin wrote…and then “refute” it. MacArthur comes prepared!

[@dandricchikote4483]

The greatest aspect of MacArthur is his well rounded understanding of God's Word and dispensationalism. I was confused at first but learned through his teaching that dispensationalism is simply a way to look at the epochs of time in Bible history and has nothing to do with salvation or Arminianism. Truly a great teacher.

[@JakkWagon]

that's his worst except maybe the premillennialist cult ignorance 🙄

[@CarmenCastille]

what zombie fantasy world do you live in

[@rodneyvail2908]

God created us and He can do whatever He pleases .He is the Potter and we are the clay .By God's grace we are saved .My favorite hymn is Amazing Grace ,it says it all . ❤️

[@happyforever1528]

Amen Rodney !.

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

He's a Heretic!

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@endtimesareuponus8930 psycho wackjob

[@iacoponefurio1915]

I fell so far i should have died John Newton solid believer in the Doctrines of grace

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

@@iacoponefurio1915 you Certainly are. Keep it up Satan follower. I know you will. You Won't quit your Satan worshipping and you Won't quit sending Satanic comments. Satan taught you.

[@greenice6386]

Why is is hard for people to believe 1Corinthians Chapter 15 verse 1-10 ? And Galatians Chapter 1 verses 6-9 ?

[@charleshinchcliff3495]

Also 1st Corinthians 4:6 don't go beyond what's written.

[@saludanite]

@@charleshinchcliff3495 THANK YOU!!!

[@happyforever1528]

I believe that !.

[@yohabi4738]

John McArthur is one my most respected pastors. I hold him is great esteem. However, I disagree with anyone who holds on to the theology of Calvinism.

[@mosesmanaka8109]

"No man comes to me UNLESS the Father draws him" Jesus said.

[@tommysuriel]

That verse doesn't deny man's ability to reject God's drawing.

[@castropianoforte]

@@tommysuriel Just read the whole thing

[@Romans1136.]

Context....your missing the context. You can not just proof text your way through scripture

[@seungjaeyune2008]

What an amazing Word of God

[@happyforever1528]

its the most wonderful word we poor fallen creatures could ever hear , it really does make ones heart sing , Hallelujah !.

[@happyforever1528]

Amazingly Wonderful Grace of God to undeserved sinners !.

[@jaycho1255]

No Seung Jae, Calvin said in his book, Institute, God also predestined many to go to hell and burn forever. God, for his own pleasure, made certain many would never be able to accept Christ as Lord. What John Mac Arthur and many Calvinists are doing is to sugarcoat what Calvin actually believed and taught. If there is no free will, all the sins committed had to have been orcastrated by God.

[@happyforever1528]

@@jaycho1255 No ! God just left them to pay the penalty for their own sins , For salvation is all of God , He Chooses who He will , as Romans says " I will have Mercy on whom I will have mercy and whom He wills He hardens , For its Not of Him that runneth , nor of him that willeth but of God that showeth mercy ! .

[@happyforever1528]

@@jaycho1255 God never predestinated people to go to Hell , He just left them to suffer the consequences for their own sins!.

[@seanhauer7236]

If it's up to man to choose Christ to be saved..what trait would the man need to have?. Would you say he needs to be humble enough? Smart enough?. That would base it all on works. Working on humility to be saved. Being smart enough to understand the word to be saved.It's up to God who does or dosen't have the ears.

[@lucaciandrei]

clickbait: the title is so misleading :( the message is not about calvinism or arminianism but about the Truth of the Scripture

[@peterpulpitpounder]

How about that word "MIGHT" we find in the NT? Regarding the matter of redemption, it says that many sinners will refuse to believe "that they MIGHT [potentially] be saved"? Might be saved? Potentially saved? Hmmm, that doesn't fit the typical Calvinist mold, since, according to Calvinism, nobody who has the potential to be saved will ever be lost, for all are elected unto salvation. There is not "might be saved" when it comes to the non-elect. How about "deeming yourselves unworthy of eternal life?" That's another statement in the Bible. Can that possibly be true of the dead sinner who has absolutely to capacity whatsoever to respond to God? There are plenty of Bible verses which fall into the Arminian camp, demanding that we present the revelation of Scripture in a balanced manner. One theological angle is not enough. Plucking one string on the Bible Banjo, so to speak, is not the playing good spiritual music.

[@dvsdvs04]

It is a wonder to hear our elder brother, teacher and pastor for remaining consistent in this strange land as we journey home! Much honor where honor is due!!

[@happyforever1528]

All honour belongs to Almighty God Alone , For we are saved by Grace Alone , through Faith Alone , In Jesus Christ Alone and ALL to the Glory of God Alone , Cheers and God Bless !.

[@dvsdvs04]

A contentious spirit without a cause...examine this.. 1 Timothy 5: 17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

[@douglashazelrigg4377]

"Choose this day whom you will serve..." "Whosever will, let him come and drink the waters of life freely." "God, who would have all men to be saved." The doctrine of Total Depravity is NOT contrary to the idea that man has been granted the choice whether to submit to God or not. Man submits, God saves. The idea that God forces his grace on someone is contrary to the very idea of grace itself.

[@aletheia8054]

The idea that a man chooses Christ because of his free will is contrary grace as well.

[@douglashazelrigg4377]

@@aletheia8054 I don't believe so. A man decides, upon hearing the Word, to submit to God, but it STILL requires God to apply the grace obtained at Calvary to save him Titus 2:11 "For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people."

[@aletheia8054]

@@douglashazelrigg4377 Yes a man decides. But not because of freewill

[@douglashazelrigg4377]

@@aletheia8054 That is contradictory

[@aletheia8054]

@@douglashazelrigg4377 What is contradictory?

[@casparbrock7441]

So how were Enoch and Elijah taken to heaven alive without being born again? And how do you explain God's answer to Cain in Genesis 4:6‐7 where God says to him about sin that Cain "must rule over it"? Is God telling Cain to do something which Cain is actually unable to do? He tells Cain that if he does well then he'll be accepted. Enoch and Elijah did well and were ascended into heaven long before Jesus Christ was. How does the doctrine of Total Depravity answer this?

[@ktl4539]

Jesus came that we may have (spiritual) LIFE, and have it abundantly.

[@tvescovi1959]

START SEEING IT ALL THROUGH SCRIPTURE... I HAD WRONG LENS ON BEFORE, FELT STUPID ONCE I SAW IT (GOD REVEALED IT TO ME). :-). BLESSED NOW!! But I don’t beat up anybody with it, it’s God’s job to open hearts & eyes.

[@andrewlawrencei3239]

Amen , absolutely 👌👍🙏🙏🙏

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Absolutely! We are a stubborn stupid lot so we know we would be as wicked as we could without His choices toward us.

[@happyforever1528]

We only see it when the Holy Spirit opens our eyes to see it .!.

[@andrewlawrencei3239]

@@happyforever1528 Amen , absolutely 👍

[@happyforever1528]

Yes its the most amazing thing that could happen to sinful people , For when Adam and Eve disobeyed in the garden We ALL inherited their sinful nature ,That's what we do ,sin ! there is none holy in Gods eyes no not one , But Thanks be to God who has given us the victory through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ .

[@biblicalworship6790]

The longer you study and let scripture interpret scripture. Confirming doctrine by more than one or 2 verses. The Bible becomes so harmonious it’s astounding. Like a symphony orchestra. I’m at the point 13 years into God saving me that I can barely even have a conversation about Christ with an Arminian to where they don’t grieve my spirit to the uttermost. It’s like everything they say is tainted and warped by their theological error. Their conversation always seems makes God so small and weak, and humankind so big and strong. It’s sickening.

[@saludanite]

13 years. It is time to grow up. James 3 and Hebrews 6.

[@andrewlawrencei3239]

Amen , absolutely I am agree 100%.👍👌🙏

[@andrewlawrencei3239]

I have the same problem with Armenian people .

[@saludanite]

There are no arminians/calvinists. This is a false construct coming out of the Reformation. There is ONLY faith in Jesus Christ. You need to FLEE from this teaching of MEN! Are you ashamed of Jesus and His words? No? Then WHY don't you READ them? All you talk about is what MEN said 1,400 years after the life and resurrection of the Lord?

[@saludanite]

@@andrewlawrencei3239 The Armenian people were slaughtered by the Turkish army over a century ago!

[@Bobthebuilder71160]

Could you say that God sending His Son to the earth and teaching the gospel was that act of grace and all of those who act upon this new found knowledge of God do so with an illuminated mind as never seen beforehand?

[@sketchbook1]

Anyone’s theology that places all believers into two camps “Arminian” and Calvinist is actually fundamentally flawed. Romans 9 cannot be so ripped out of its context that you understand it as talking about individual election to salvation. It’s entirely about the question of why Israel as a group was still rejecting their Messiah, and what God was doing about it.

[@johnking6308]

Isn't he teaching SALVATION BY ELECTION rather than by faith in Christ? It seems he thinks salvation is God's decision rather than God's offer. If election always leads to salvation, where is the need for the cross?

[@Arez455]

The cross is an essential part of the complete un contradictory work God does in election. Your comment kinda struggles with some basic reasoning.

[@johnking6308]

@@Arez455 The comment does not struggle with God's sovereignty. If God intends for the "elect" to be saved, they are then saved immediately and irreversibly. However, if Paul preached salvation by faith in Christ, there is a contradiction of the two means: election vs. faith. You may not agree, but do you see reasoning more clearly?

[@Kurohitsuji365]

I tend to oversimplify and I hope I’m not being unBiblical. Didn’t God say that He knows the end in the beginning? Having even written those who will be saved and sealing the scroll? In other words, doesn’t God from the beginning know who would be a “dead end” thus calling and electing those to be saved? On the other hand, reminding what Spurgeon said, we don’t know who is and who isn’t elected thus preaching to every creature a must. Imagine this... if you were a football coach from yesterday’s game. Wouldn’t you be able to know who did miss and bench the dude? But, since it was yesterday, you would also be able to know who wouldn’t miss (somehow it is logical to me, but I’m not sure I’m being able to make it clear). Once I was told on a Sunday school that God knows everything, I knew God also knew those who are saved, then, I’ve heard about the Book of Life and about election in many other verses. Well... hope it helped.

[@johnking6308]

@@Kurohitsuji365 Two things to consider when thinking about this: (1) knowing is not the same as causing. (2) If God had already elected some to be saved BEFORE creation, it was a done deal and Jesus' death on the cross would be irrelevant. But the Bible teaches His death was not irrelevant because we are saved by faith in Jesus. Those whom God foreknew were elected to good works. "For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. " Ephesians 2:10

[@happyforever1528]

I have to listen to that , be like the Bereans and check with your Bible to see that all is right !.

[@user-hw5pd1mv9b]

Listening to MacArthur teach on Arminian theology is like listening to fox telling you how to secure the chicken coop. Calvinist theology is aberrant theology. His idea of Arminian theology is one massive starman.

[@georgeporge7124]

Let's be meek and kind with each other ❤

[@georgeporge7124]

Jesus wants us to love God and each other.

[@hilarioushen4164]

Salvation is all of God & man has absolutely no part to play in his salvation. The most damnable and pernicious heresy that has ever plagued the mind of man was the idea that somehow he could make himself good enough to deserve to live with an all holy God. Martin Luther. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit. Romans 8:1

[@doug2993]

Absolutely correct!

[@CarlosHernandez-dt3gp]

Arminianism and Calvinism have been the classic debate between Christians, but to call out on them and say they are heretics is a mistake because they can be saying the same exact thing about Calvinists. The primary doctrines of salvation is what all Christians must say yes and Amen to. Other than that secondary doctrine will be debated until Jesus reaffirms in us all things as we dwell with him for eternity. God bless.

[@carlosreira413]

Yes, but Luther still held the power of grace vested in the Church and the sacraments, particularly baptism. He believed that the Christian culture of his day was of God and anything like a secularist world in which Christians were again the underdogs as they were in the first century was unthinkable. It's important to keep this in mind. Man had no part to play in his salvation because the play had essentially been made. It could not be UNMADE. This is different from Calvinism, especially the English speaking Puritan form which becomes so important to American Evangelical thinking.

[@leekellettjr441]

You like understanding. You are the ones who believe lordship salvation. We believe in the work of Jesus for our salvation not our works. You can believe what you want but don't accuse in your ignorance.

[@leekellettjr441]

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[@dr.edwinlimbaga327]

The statement that "FREE WILL" is the ability of man to contribute to salvation is not an acceptable statement.

[@happyforever1528]

Its also not scriptural , when Adam and Eve fell in the garden we ALL inherited their sinful nature , and as Isiah tells us all of our righteousness is as FILTHY RAGS , we need to be changed by the Mighty hand of God , For as Jesus said ,unless you are Born Again you cannot inherit the Kingdom of God , Marvel not that I say to you that you Must be born Again . 1 Pet. 1: 23 , Being Born Again not of corruptible seed , but of incorruptible by the word of God which liveth and abideth Forever .2 Cor. 5: 17 ,Therefore If any man be in Christ he be a new creature , old things are passed away , behold All things are become new , All things are of God who has reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ and has given to us the ministry of reconciliation 21, For He had made Him to be sin that we might be made the Righteousness of God in Him ! .

[@happyforever1528]

Its Heresy , For when Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the garden we all inherited their fallen nature , we are sinners who need to be rescued from our sinful selves , and only the Lamb without blemish who was sent of the Father to be sin for us who knew no sin , that we may be made the righteousness of God In Him !.

[@happyforever1528]

As the unrenerated man is dead in trespasses and sins ,he cannot contribute to anything of God , NOTHING ! .

[@happyforever1528]

But its the truth whether you accept or not , The word of God proclaims a God that saves ,Arminianism speaks of a god that enables man to save himself , one view presents election by the Father , redemption by the Son , and calling by the Spirit of God directed towards the same persons and as securing their salvation infallible . the other gives a different reference , ( The objects of redemption being All mankind ; Of calling those who hear the Gospel ; and of election those hearers who respond ) and denies that any mans salvation is secured by any of them . One makes salvation depend on the work of God and the other the work of man ! . Man by his fall into a state of sin ....being altogether averse from good and dead in sin is Not able by his own strength to convert Himself or to prepare himself thereunto, The West Minister Confession .

[@dr.edwinlimbaga327]

@@happyforever1528 Man cannot contribute to his salvation, He cannot die at the cross to save himself, remember the penalty for sin is death. His free will is not a contribution to the death of Jesus at the cross to save man.

[@ontheway5446]

FACTS ,. "Who is like HIM". no one. its important to view and understand the proper structure of what the church is. really is a fine line into His kingdom, and misguiding His children, even if in innocence, is very easy to do now a days. and trying to fix that misguidedness , tough game, it does compound like interest. i appreciate your words sir

[@happyforever1528]

Its not misguidedness but the fallen nature who thinks it deserves some of the glory for their salvation , but salvation is all of God from beginning to end , For salvation is all by Grace Alone , through Faith Alone In Jesus Christ Alone , and All to the Glory of God Alone

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

Jesus died as a Ransom for ALL. MacArthur is a Heretic.

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

@@happyforever1528 RANSOM for ALL !!

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

@@happyforever1528 look. I Told you TO STOP HARASSING ME. NOW STOP !

[@happyforever1528]

@@endtimesareuponus8930 Jesus Christ died for all those whom the Father had given to Him before the world was made , there is only one heretic here and that is Not John MacArthur !.As He says , All that the Father has Given unto me will come and all that come unto me I will not cast out !.

[@SSNBN777]

1 Corinthians 1:21 GNT For *_God in his wisdom made it impossible for people to know him by means of their own wisdom._* *_Instead, by means of the so-called "foolish" message we preach, God decided to save those who believe._*

[@davidgleeson1716]

One of the greatest theologian in the last 500 years!

[@happyforever1528]

Thats why the old enemy attacks at every opportunity ! .

[@doug2993]

I love John, but don't forget about the late RC Sproul. Voddie Bauchum is no slouch either. BTW, I'm gonna see him in Ft Lauderdale in a few weeks.

[@davidgleeson1716]

@@doug2993 All of the above are very knowledgeable theologians. I'm just partial to Macaurthur, plus he personally signed my Bible.

[@davidgleeson1716]

@@happyforever1528 He was the only church in the counrty, that I know of that did not shut down during the pandemic, even though the county find him hundreds of thousands dollars each service. The D.A. dropped all fines once they saw he was not playing around and stood on his constitutional grounds, in Jesus name.

[@doug2993]

@@davidgleeson1716 Haha, Same here brother, years ago at a ligonier conference. He's a very humble man. I listen to his radio broadcast on my phone every weekday.

[@andzhendricks5064]

The gift of evangelism exists; to help man understand the gospel. Faith cometh by hearing.

[@leroybroun4106]

what is the Gospel?

[@angloaust1575]

Only if the seed falls upon the good soil!

[@happyforever1528]

Not to all it seems !.

[@geraldpolmateer3255]

What scripture reference do you have to support "The gift of evangelism exists"?

[@happyforever1528]

@@geraldpolmateer3255 Eph.4 : 11 , And He gave some , Apostles and some Prophets and some EVANGELISTS and some Pastors and teachers , for the perfecting of the Saints , for the work of the ministry , for the edification of the body of Christ !. Cheers and God Bless !

[@michaelcham8225]

John MacArthur's understanding of John 1:12-13 is in error. The object of the verse 12 is Jesus because Jesus is the subject of John chapter one. And so, it is undeniable that verse 13 is also speaking about Jesus. And verse 14 also established that fact. But according to John MacArthur, he interpreted that the person "who" in verse 13 as the one who received Jesus. The problem is that if the person "who" in verse 13 is the receiver of Jesus, then John MacArthur forgets that the "who" is a man who is born of the flesh and by the will of man because his birth is of his biological father. David tells us that that is the state in which all of us were born in Psalm 51:1 "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." Only Jesus can be said to have been born "not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God". John MacArthur uses John 3 citing that being born again is the result of the work of God. John MacArthur seem to have confused receiving Jesus with being born again, he thinks that both are the same. Contrary to his belief, receiving Jesus is not the same as being born again. Receiving Jesus is a choice that we made and only after receiving Jesus that we receive the Holy Spirit is what is meant by being born again and so we must yield to the Holy Spirit in order to live a life for God. That is why there is a warning not to grieve the Holy Spirit, that is also a choice to make, to please or to grieve Him. John MacArthur's teaching tell us that a sinner cannot receive God's salvation and repent unless it is God's will. This is nice and cozy to him and those who buy his theology but on the other hand is it the fault of those who didn't receive Jesus since receiving Jesus must come from the will of God? If it is true that receiving Jesus is God's will then is it God's will to leave out the rest to damnation? If John MacArthur's teaching is correct then it is disturbing that God would create someone for hell without the person's ability to repent. What about Adam, he was also not born of blood or the flesh neither by the will of man, was he also born of God since God breathed into him His Spirit? Was it Adam's choice to sin or was it God's will for him to sin? Whatever you want to call it, Calvinism or Reformed Calvinism or other schism it do not matter, the teaching of John MacArthur that a person is unable to repent and turn to Christ by his own freewill is not biblical. When Israel were in sin, God spoke to His people this way. Isaiah 1:18 “Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool." Why must God reason with Israel if repentance was His will to cause them? Why can't God zapped them and they will repent? Obliviously God reasoning with Israel is for them to make a choice and God give them the freewill to do so. Repentance is a choice we make but God provided a way to salvation through repentance in Jesus Christ. Jesus said God so love the world (includes everyone in the world) and whosoever believes in Him shall be saved. Who is the whosoever? Does it mean everyone who believes or a selected few can believe?

[@alrichs8146]

I don't really care about what historical sinners have said, but what God said in His word...

[@mikem820]

Thank you!! This lecture justified confirmed that my conversion to atheism was the correct move

[@iacoponefurio1915]

thank you also better an honest unbeliever than a dishonest charlatan trying infiltrate the ranks..

[@siegfriedbartel7122]

As a born of God believer...I totally respect you as a person and human being...you are straight forward in your opinion and not a fake/ false, evil impostor "Christian" sitting in a "church" deceiving people from within...I respect you😊

[@peacebe9518]

Oh remember if you could be glad as you are to reject God in your last moment before death. Cuz buddy death will knock more senses to a soul but then it'd be too late. I beg you repent and come to Jesus and He will carry you till the end. His love and grace will always be with you till the end he will prune what needs prining and smoothen you with suffering and lead you safely home. Don't be bothered about Calvinism or Arminianism. Just come to Jesus and Je will lead you . The rest are the mysteries of God who can behold it.

[@Romans1136.]

That's why Calvinism is evil. Because according to that, you were never picked to begin with thus you left. I would tell you with a clear mind that Jesus still wants to save you. Turn and come back to the truth lest you be eternally separated from God for all of time.

[@pierreferguson5257]

The Calvinists opinion, is that no one has a choice aka free-will. Therefore Calvinists do NOT believe what is written in Mark 16:15-16; John 3:18; Joshua 24:15; Deuteronomy 30:19; Hebrews 11:24-26. The Arminians opinion, is that Christians who believe the gospel and are saved, can lose His salvation. Therefore Arminians do NOT believe what is written in John 6:35-40, John 10:22-30, John 17:6-12; Jude 1:24-25; Psalm 121. The truth is, that we all have a choice aka free-will (John 3:18), and the Lord Jesus Christ will lose nothing (John 6:39). ...

[@jeffouellette9946]

You can lose salvation.

[@Brenda-qo4ko]

Calvinist believe all the scriptures that speak of people making choices.We believe people make choices all the time.However, based on scriptures like Romans 8:7-8, Romans 3:10-11 (Psalm 14:1-3), 1 Cor 1:18, 1 Cor 2:14, John 6:44a, Eph 2:1-6 (Paul writes of nonbelievers as being spiritually dead in their sins) we believe that the unregenerate, natural person cannot and will not choose for God.That's their choice.On the other hand, with scriptures like John 3:1-8, John 6:44b, Eph 2:4-6, 1 John 5:1; 2 Tim 2:24-26 (especially v. 25), Act 11:18, Ezek 37:1-11, Ezek 36:26, Jer 24:7 we believe that it takes a work from God in order someone dead in their sins to be raised to spiritual life, granted repentance, in order that they then want to make the choice for God/Jesus Christ.All those scriptures that make statements like if someone chooses to believe they will have eternal life are nothing more than statements of fact.If someone believes they will be saved.There is nothing in those scriptures about who can or will make that choice.The idea that it means everyone can make a choice for God/Christ is imposed onto those scriptures.There are other passages as I have listed that address the issue of who will and who won't do that.Also, God determines not only the ends but the means to those ends.Romans 10:17 says faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.Having prophets go to Israel and implore them to repent and believe, and people now preaching the gospel of Christ, is the means by which God then draws those who will come to understand and believe.It was the same in the OT as it is since Christ.Remember - not all of Israel believed.Only the remnant that were called out by God by his grace (Rom 11:4-6).Those are the people who like the dry bones he raised to life (spiritually) and gave a new heart (turning hearts of stone into hearts of flesh).

[@user-xl5zs1ii6w]

If Calvinist is truth, then Jesus wouldn't have had to die on the cross. Yes, He draws you to him and it's your free-will to reject or to accept Him.

[@johndennison3140]

So you believe God has predetermined everything that has happened in our lives and we have no choice in anything because it’s been predetermined.

[@triumphantsoul9075]

John G. Paton was a missionary who evangelised a violent island where everyone, both men and woman, wear little to no clothing. In his book, The Story of John G. Paton or Thirty Years Among South Sea Cannibals, John G. Paton records this incident about a native man and woman who became Christians and then wanted to marry but feared they would be killed because there were a few men who wanted to marry the woman. In a few seconds, Yakin entered and if Nelwang’s bearing and appearance were rather inconsistent with the feeling of worship (he was wearing a shirt, kilt and tommahawk, John G. Paton felt it inappropriate to wear an emblem of violence to church)- and what on earth was I to do when the figure and costume of Yakin began to reveal itself marching in? The first visible difference betwixt a Heathen and a Christian is that the Christian wears some clothing, the Heathen wears none. Yakin had determined to show the extent of her Christianity by the amount of clothing she could carry upon her person. Being a Chief’s widow before she became Nelwang’s bride, she had some idea of state occasions and appeared dressed in every article of European apparel, mostly portions of male attire, that she could beg or borrow from about the premises! Her bridal gown was a man’s drab-coloured great-coat, put on above her native grass skirts and sweeping down to her heels, buttoned tight. Over this she had hung on a vest and above that, again, most amazing of all, she had superinduced a pair of men's trousers, planting the body of them on her neck and shoulders and leaving her head and face looking out from between the legs - a leg from either side streaming over her bosom, arid, dangling down absurdly in front! Fastened to the one shoulder also there was a red shirt and to the other a striped shirt waving about her like wings as she sailed along. Around her head, a red shirt had been twisted like a turban, and her notions of art demanded that a sleeve thereof should have a loft over each of her ears! She seemed to be a moving monster-loaded with a mass of rags. The day was excessively hot, and the perspiration poured over her face in streams. She, too, sat as near to me as she could get on the woman’s side of the church. Nelwang looked at me and then at her smiling quietly, as if to say, “You never saw in all your white world, a bride so grandly dressed!” I little thought what I was bringing on myself when I urged them to come to church. The sight of that poor creature sweltering before me constrained me for once to make the service very short - perhaps the shortest I ever conducted in all my life! The day ended in peace. The two souls were extremely happy, and I praised God that what might have been a scene of bloodshed had closed thus, even though it were in a kind of wild grotesquerie!

[@squirrelslayer6837]

For Him to give us life means we are automatically saved? We cannot shut that door? Then what is the purpose of anything? I just can’t grasp this, and I think because it doesn’t make sense. The Spirit opening my heart to salvation makes sense but no choice ever doesn’t. As awesome as this sermon is, it falls short of clarifying between those two scenarios I just mentioned. Help me understand!!

[@jonanthony979]

",,,,Those who were appointed to Eternal life believed" Acts 13:48

[@uncasunga1800]

so simple

[@mrnoedahl]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqSWfnaafat9pqM

[@tonymanfredonia5704]

Great verse

[@twsartadventures3660]

That's not scripture. The verse actually says Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Notice how it doesn't say anything close to what your catholic non-God's-word says? You can't be appointed to anything if you don't accept the free GIFT of salvation. Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. This verse makes no sense in your delusional reality, if there is no free will how is someone called and not chosen? You people are heretics denying Christ' shed blood of salvation. If it's not a gift then it's null and void.

[@Romans8-9]

@@twsartadventures3660 Transactional salvation is not Biblical. Where in Eph 1:5 does it say anything about "accepting the gift"? Was Paul "accepting the gift" when he was murdering Christians?

[@footsoldier8054]

God, please help me, I can't love you in my own effort.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Israel what am i to do with you Your Love is like the early morning mist, the dew that disappears in the sunlight. Hopefully thats a sign you are true Israel. Keep seeking admitting looking

[@douglassmith7371]

I Love that statement. TRUE! The fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge

[@jeffralston7509]

Why does jmac have a church? Why are there churches? Why are there missionaries? Why do we evangelize? Why do we share the gospel? Why do we read the Bible? If God makes all the decisions.

[@aletheia8054]

All those things exist because God determined it that’s why. You answered your own question

[@gregsquire9704]

The Lord determines the method and the means by which His people are called to him.

[@abuelb]

Amen! 26 But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. (John 10:26-28, NASB)

[@godscountrywithbriannipps5623]

Im glad these aren’t the only 2 options

[@bernardbennett1217]

The Bible teaches divine election and predestination. So you’re right actually there is only one way. Jesus paid it all. Jesus does it all. Anything else stems from pride.

[@saludanite]

@@bernardbennett1217 Give me 20 commandments that Jesus gave us to fulfill.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@saludanite nutjob give your lungs a rest from the meth

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@saludanite you are a psycho hahahaha No one is fooled The insane KZbin comment gospel everybody wants it hahahahahahhhaha

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@saludanite how can zoomers be so blind to their own incompetent illogical position Oh yeah Isaiah 6 Total narcissism you dont want to change

[@bobclifton8021]

It's just a bit disingenuous for a hard core calvinist to speak on the subject when he already has a foregone conclusion.

[@burtcooper612]

Spurgeon, "Away from me sin, away from me".

[@no_321]

God's son Jesus is our most awesome teacher, he is the living word of God . Jesus came in the flesh , AS the living word of God .

[@MrChrispy777]

JM misrepresented the free-will crowd, when he said man can choose Christ, WITHOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT. The key scripture is Hebrews 6. Hebrews 6:4-9 (KJV) "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. But, beloved, WE ARE PERSUADED BETTER THINGS OF YOU, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak." God draws us, the Holy Spirit enlightens us, and convicts us of sin, righteousness, and judgment, and then the choice is ours. The thrust of Hebrews is warning fellow Jews NOT TO TURN BACK. They're drawn to the door, and Jesus is knocking, but it's their choice to open the door and walk through. God is NOT a respecter of persons.

[@rozznel8692]

Lazarus was physically dead. The prodigal son was spiritually dead.

[@happyforever1528]

And so were we , Dead in trespasses and sins , but thanks be to God who has given us the victory through Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ , who has already paid in Full the penalty for All of the sins of those whom the Father gave to Him before the world was made ! Eph. 1 : 3 - 7 , a Very good place to start , Hallelujah !

[@happyforever1528]

And both were made alive by Jesus Christ !.

[@rozznel8692]

Amėn, but it is better to be spiritually alive. many people are physically alive but spiritually dead.

[@Romans1136.]

The Prodigal son was still a son even when he went to a far off country. HE came to HIS senses. The text never says God made him etc..

[@shaunapatton5173]

It's God that draws close to us first.

[@koosvanzyl2605]

And dispensasionalism? Find no verse in the Bible. Please help.

[@BirdDogey1]

I recommend Luther’s commentary on Romans.

[@saludanite]

What's wrong with asking the Holy Spirit to open your eyes to the scriptures? Jesus said that He was sending the Spirit to teach you ALL things. Jn. 14.25-26. You ACTUALLY prefer Luther over God's promised Holy Spirit?

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@saludanite nutjob no 1 needs to flop on the ground liek a fish you fake pagan nutjob Now stop drop and roll! Hahahababababa

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Luthers Bondage of the will is essential.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@saludanite strawman faker hater of the brethren get your own channel o right ive seen itjust an empty cult page no one visits no 1 ever agrees with you poser fraud.

[@alexkelley385]

@@saludanite notice carefully that Christ is addressing the Apostles in regards to leading them into all the truth(also in ch.16). This is divine revelation from the Holy Spirit. Take note of 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20,21.

[@mIKOTOBA7]

Calvinism is unconditional love. Arminianism is conditional love.

[@happyforever1528]

Calvinism is God choosing man , Arminianism is man with so called freewill who believes He chooses God , their problem is they they have never heard of the fallen will , and when you tell them they do not believe it !.

[@allenmorgan4309]

The bible doesn't actually teach that we don't have the ability to choose God. It does teach that whosever is willing to believe in Jesus will be saved and God would have all men to be saved and yet it is all God's choice. No one can ever comprehend that just like we cannot comprehend the Trinity but from our own perspective we each have the ability to choose to believe in Christ and His righteousness imputed to us. That's all that really matters. From our own perspective we can choose God proving ourselves to be written in the book of life from the foundation of the world.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

The scriptures teach exactly the opposite as every1 Who actually reads and believes them knows Yawn you and your fidty thousand other fake profiles are so triggered why dont you go on your own self righteous cult brothers pages hahahaha You cant your like moth to a flame you refuse to admit youre evil and hate God and any1 else whontells you this truth Youre like the 7 billion other deceived charlatans

[@kurtweiand7086]

It's kinda like the number 6 or 9. Depends how you look at it. Seek, knock, ask. I know l'm saved when l live right. But when l deliberately sin l have my doubts 😕.

[@allenmorgan4309]

@@kurtweiand7086 it's the same here but I think that's where we have to rely on grace because we all fall short. Perfect obedience is beyond what we are capable of.

[@MyRoBeRtBaKeR]

He says choose Him but no, it is accepting Him. Understanding that there is no life in us without Christ redeeming love.

[@drakkonis1]

22:57 this wouldn't be fair if God didn't give the sinner the right to make his own decision so that the sinner unaided by the Holy Spirit must make the first move that's essentially Arminian theology Um, no. That isn't essentially Arminianism. Arminianism doesn't claim that people can come to Christ unaided by the Holy Spirit. In fact, it agrees that God must draw people to Himself through the Holy Spirit. The difference is that the drawing is not irresistible.

[@happyforever1528]

Arminian's believe in Free Will , in other words man can choose to believe or not to believe , its entirely up to him , he also believes that he will get to Heaven by his good works , plus God looked down through History and saw those who would believe , so they are the people He chose , plus they can never have the assurance of salvation they only have a hope of salvation , I have friends who are Arminian's , and they get very upset at the thought that they do not have free will but a fallen will , its All very sad to say the least , they now sit in a RC so called church as they can no longer can get to their own church , This Freewill came from Rome and is a Halfway house back to Rome ! .

[@shop3dps188]

the Greek word for draw is as one drawing a net. Drawing is irresistible It's not a wooing, . We are fish drawn in a net, not lured by some attractive bait

[@drakkonis1]

@@shop3dps188 and nothing ever escapes a net? 2 Peter 3:9 says that God's will is that none should perish, yet many do.

[@siegfriedbartel7122]

​@@drakkonis1you forgot to give us the first part of the verse. Thank you. I am tired of this.

[@jasonburgess7745]

Reall getting exhausted of Calvinists conflation of the two aspects of Salvation. Man's response-ability to the Spirit breathed word of the Gospel, and God's sovereign choice to regenerate those who "respond" to the message in faith. It is God's sovereign and gracious choice to pardon those who come to Him in faith as apposed to working to earn His favor. Faith is NOT a meritorious work. God is not obligated to forgive our sins when we admit we are sinners. He is gracious to forgive by His choice. It is no secret who God desires to save as Calvinists would lead us to believe. It is those who trust in His chosen SON.

[@flybunny58]

Thank you Jason For your comment my youtube videos was first started just to try it out now I try to use it for Gods glory I did live near John MacArthur's Church and loved his teaching I still do But now i only listen to him through his app I hope you enjoyed the message.

[@joeiiiful]

You are terribly confused. Probably you are sitting under an Arminian teacher and are not a critical thinker. Study to show yourself approved.

[@uncasunga1800]

you are totally clueless

[@mrnoedahl]

Here is the other John MacArthur. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqSWfnaafat9pqM

[@David24476]

@@mrnoedahl Thank you for the link. Seems to me both sermons contradict each other. I'm going through this struggle myself.

[@tedgrant2]

Good news for all you Christians. Soon you will be able to attend Virtual Church Services (VCS). That means you can stay in bed on Sunday morning, thank God !

[@ladyesther]

I would like to discuss his comment that the sinner hate himself. I need clarification on this if any in the comments know what he meant. Does this mean we hate ourselves daily? I have always been confused by what my attitude towards myself should be according to the Bible. Love God and love others... but that can't mean I give and give and give out endlessly bc I can't.

[@jacobgamber5407]

I'm probably not qualified to answer this question, but if it encourages you in your faith, sister, I would say try to love God first -- put him first; love others selflessly, humbly, "esteeming" yourself lower than they only inasmuch as your being humble, not fake of course; and try to find your strength in Christ. He will fill you to give to others, so that you don't have to fill yourself. Also, fellowship and prayer with other believers is a great and biblical way to share one another's burdens and encourage one another. God bless you.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

First you have to be truly born again. Obviously you only want gifts and free stuff. The Christian life is of sacrifice.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Read Ezekiel 16

[@sylviahofer1246]

I longed to be a Calvinist for decades, but unfortunately I've been predestined to be an Armenian....

[@iacoponefurio1915]

You are not a Christian just a self righteous fake easy believism revivalist cult member and neevr jad any desire to admit your own bible described depravity evil and sin. Totally understandable.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Plus you are an asian near the black sea wow you must know the Kardashians you are a fake and dishonest just like them hahahahahaha

[@happyforever1528]

No ! being predestinated to pay the penalty for your own sins ! .

[@Martha77]

Amen!! Scripture after scripture backs this up!

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

Misinterpreting the scripture and IGNORING much of the Bible.

[@happyforever1528]

Once seen its Everywhere in the Scriptures !.

[@drakkonis1]

You know, it seems to me that MacArthur thinks that this is about my sense of free will. Freedom or some such thing. Like I have rights or something. That isn't the case. My personal objection, beyond believing the Bible does not support it, is that I object to what it makes of God. Calvinism states, in effect, that before God created anything, He decided to enact a plan of His own creation whereby all of His image bearers would be condemned to Hell except for a lucky few He would save (whether they wanted it or not) but didn't deserve it any more than the ones going to Hell, simply to prove that He can do it. Calvinists call this "The Sovereignty of God!" And to make it worse, those of us who are saved are supposed to pay attention to things like justice, impartiality, love for others even if they're enemies, the fruits of the Spirit and the rest because they are in line with God's nature. And somehow, we're supposed to reconcile this with a loving, just and merciful God who would send people to Hell who didn't make themselves and, due to the nature they didn't give themselves, have absolutely no hope whatsoever to be anything other than what they are no matter how much they might want to be and will never, ever be given the chance by God to be anything else. Because God chose not to save them for whatever reason. Now, I know I'm just a sinful human being. I know that Calvinism could possibly be right and I'm wrong. I trust God. If Calvinism is right, I don't understand in what way such a thing could be done by a loving, holy and just God, but that doesn't mean it can't be. I may just not understand. But if any Calvinist tells me that they do understand, I'll call them a liar to their face. Because saying the Hell bound deserve to go to Hell for something they have no control over (under Calvinist thinking) is like telling a person born blind it's their fault for being born blind. I think Calvinists read the Bible in such a way as to put God in a straight jacket of His own Sovereignty. That God can't be God unless He is controlling every last thing. Somehow, they think that a sovereign God could not decide to allow His creation to actually choose between Him and themselves. Here's a more sane idea, one which I think the Bible actually supports. Love is a pretty big deal to God. Before there was a beginning, God was completely satisfied and needed nothing. Didn't need to prove anything. Was perfectly content and happy. Apparently though, He thought how pleasant and pleasing it would be to create something like Himself upon whom He could shower upon and show the joys of loving relationship. Now God didn't have to do this. He didn't need it for His personal well being or image of Himself or anything like that. It simply pleased Him. He simply chose to create something to extend His love to. Nothing made Him do it. God, being all knowing, knew that for love to mean anything, what He created would have to return that love for the same reason. Because they chose to. Otherwise, they'd just be organic robots that couldn't do anything else. So He gives them a choice, which is what gives the love value. But He also knew that His creation would reject Him. So, rather than cancel the project, He went and did it anyway, but with a plan to fix it. To get what He wanted. Those who wanted Him and loved Him in return. He called that plan "Jesus". He knew His creations would have trouble accepting the plan so He worked through the Holy Spirit to make it possible for those who would to accept the plan, but also warned what would happen to those who rejected it, so that when the end of the program was reached, those who wanted to be with Him were, because they wanted to be, and those that didn't, went to Hell, because they didn't and there was no other place to go. It's what they wanted. There's absolutely nothing in that which violates God's sovereignty and everything about what the Bible says about what's right, good and just makes a lot more sense.

[@briancayko]

The Arminians that I know will say that someone cannot be saved until Born again (regenerated), but once born again, then it is up to the person to either accept or reject God (salvation). Where does that come into the picture? they use the whole "grace & salvation is a gift, & you can reject a gift, in order to receive it, you must accept it." & of course, they also hold to being able to lose salvation. It sounds like a different form of Arminianism than what Pastor MacArthur is describing here.

[@doug2993]

Well the Arminians are very confused, no surprise if there are all sorts of different offshoots to their theology...

[@happyforever1528]

Jesus Christ says you Must be Born Again , for flesh gives birth to Flesh , but the Spirit gives birth to Spirit , Marvel Not that I say you must be born again , its an act of the Holy Spirit who makes you born again !.

[@briancayko]

@@happyforever1528 I agree & so would they, they claim that “after” you are born again, then you have the choice to reject or accept, but that at that point it’s a personal decision. Essentially denying irresistible grace.

[@happyforever1528]

There seems to be many versions of it Brian , probably depends on how the preacher feels that day ! .

[@happyforever1528]

@@briancayko I nearly started a Riot once at one of their meetings , when I asked " whatever happened to irresistible Grace , all hell broke out , people were shouting their heads off , they in the end were all told to be quiet !.

[@Timothy-yj6ng]

Whosoever shall call on the Name of the Lord, shall be saved. Romans 10:13

[@happyforever1528]

Yes but someone who is dead in trespasses and sins ? , it has to be God who does the calling !

[@kellygames8183]

@@happyforever1528 He calls everybody!!!

[@douglassmith7371]

But how then shall they call on him in who they have not believed? Read further. To “Believe” is the method of salvation. And we cannot do that of our own selves. Even that God has to give us.

[@happyforever1528]

@@douglassmith7371 Amen brother ! , which is a gift from God !.

[@happyforever1528]

@@douglassmith7371 YES ! The grace of faith , whereby the Elect are enabled to believe to the saving of their souls , is the work of the Spirit of Christ in their hearts . The WESTMINISTER CONFESSION ! . Cheers and God Bless ! .

[@Awios1]

Jesus is the start of new life and we need to be bornagain. Only the true believer who repent truly wil be recieving the Holy Spirit. Our spirit need to be bornagain IN THIS LIFE TO RECIEVE HEAVEN AFTER DYING. So are the fless have to pay for your sins and wil die and go to the grave til Jesus restore it with His returning in the air. Rapture.. The world religion are missing the greatest link to salvation . Its the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. John 1 : 12-13. Salvation is the work of God and not of your own . Rom 3;26 John 3:3 Rom 8:9 Rom 8:1

[@endtimesareuponus8930]

God did NOT make Adam and Eve sin as Calvinists say.

[@aletheia8054]

He made Adam in lustful flesh. He put the tree for him to lust after in front of him and the serpent to coerce him. And he said in the day that you eat. Not if you eat Sounds like the plan was for him to eat from the beginning.

[@kennethmoore8126]

We are dead in trespasses and sins, only faith in what Jesus done for us at the cross can cleanes the sinner from their sins.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Dead people do not have faith. You missed the whole point.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Talk about a zombie