Flying Over People Just Got a Lot Easier!

[@daveopie1234]

"without a specific location"? Wow. So it is basically a blanket approval you get for some (long) period of time if you have one of the approved drones. Nice job FAA - thanks for listening.

[@BIGPAPAFOOT]

I'm so happy! This is awesome news.....and I'm finally taking my part 107 this week or next. My channel is not monetized but will be in the next month or so. Flying a drone is so freeing,I love it . Hope you're all having a great day.

[@dronesinconstruction]

Happy flying sir

[@BIGPAPAFOOT]

@dronesinconstruction thank you so much. 😀

[@dozersdady]

Such a shame you pay to turn a profit off something you own.

[@dronesinconstruction]

@@dozersdady such a shame to think like that !

[@dozersdady]

@@dronesinconstruction not really what's a shame is how people bow to the bs. You can buy a 10k dollar drone no training or certs you can fly that drone no training no certs but If I use MY DRONE to take pictures of MY HOUSE to use to sell the house I have to take a class and pay for a cert that's the shame.

[@armandoarviso6125]

Your video was a TREMENDOUS help. I was able to apply for my waiver and got it within a few weeks. I asked for an operational window for a few months, but they issued it for 2 years. I can now operate over people AND vehicles!

[@christeduard951]

What drone do you have and did you get the parachute? I don’t know what to do for my Air2s

[@PaulTomblin]

I hope you’re going to do some reviews of ASTM parachute modules soon.

[@toxic_voxix9541]

wow well I had fun with the drones I owned in the past. I currently do not own one but they were fun to have before the FAA got involved

[@matthewbussman]

Just got my waiver over people and vehicles approved for 4 years! My first waiver attempt after taking your course and getting my Part 107. Thank you for the great information!!

[@WillRade]

AMAZING! I signed up for the course and have been studying diligently. The first time I choose to interact with the community, I was guided directly to this video and it cleared up any doubts I had. #NoRegrets

[@Cloud-Camper]

Thanks to Pilot institutes waivers made easy, I’m now getting authorization for military class D airspace in a zero grid at night to fly over people. Thank you for all you do.

[@jefferyspeich6085]

Hello Greg et al. I'm a proud Pilot Institute grad (section 107) and the owner of an Avata 2. I purchased a Vifly anti-collision beacon, so I could apply for a waiver to fly over people. I so applied and was rejected. My application was broad seeking a general waiver of the rule in Section G airspace anywhere. The rejection letter: " In particular, your request did not describe your operation and it did not provide an explanation of how the operation would be safely conducted." Do you have any further guidance on the level of detail the FAA will require for this waiver? Thanks. Jeff

[@Storm_Doctor]

As a storm chaser, this is a must and I'm delighted. I applied today--as always, Greg, your guidance and direction is essential. I also didn't know I needed to re-register my drone under my Part 107 (which I got after taking your course). $5 well spent. I like being in compliance with my flights.

[@stephenwarriner5137]

Where did you find it to apply? Could you provide a link? Thank you.

[@DavidDrummondTX]

So this is open now to apply for Jason?

[@Storm_Doctor]

@@stephenwarriner5137 Go to your FAA Drone Zone login. Be sure you are logged in as a Part 107 pilot. Then you can add waivers from that site. Easy peasy. And yeah, it appears active as no specific location was required. I applied for day, night, and twilight ops. I don't know when I'll hear back. :)

[@Storm_Doctor]

@@DavidDrummondTX Yep :)

[@Storm_Doctor]

@@stephenwarriner5137 Go the FAA Drone Zone to login. Make sure you are registering as a Part 107 pilot. Then make sure your device is registered. From that site, you'll see the section to request a waiver. Fill it in. I applied for day/night/twilight ops. They have questions about your drone (lighting, guards, etc). You have to provide some justifications, but it was easy to submit.

[@70epictetus]

Super awesome news!!! Thank you Pilot Institute for staying on top of FAA related information! 🎉🎉🎉

[@ekimagem]

"Gets propeller guards out of trash can...."

[@Thunderbyrd.]

Or, "Order new prop guards"

[@AtortAerials]

😂😂😂

[@marionetto9682]

HAHAHAHA Me too 🤣

[@livingtrill]

"Gets prop guards out of the trunk" LOL

[@JasonFinkPhotos]

Got mine buried in a desk drawer somewhere. 😁

[@wilkstube]

So a waiver to some regulation that is a bandaid for over-regulation - that also adds a little bit of extra regulation in the waiver? Nice. It would be interesting to see the approval rate and delay after a few months. Hope they will do better than rejecting %97 of what people want. Thanks for the video!

[@markkempton4579]

They've already approved a huge backlog from over the winter. Very fast now.

[@jayhache5609]

Best comment. Everyone else so happy and eager to kiss the rings and lick the boots of Big Daddy bureaucrats. Disgusting.

[@b3owu1f]

That is great.. but RID + parachute are going to add a bit of weight right? So does the additional weight count towards the 3.5lb max? Or is the drone without those 3.5lb max, then you add those on. Also.. how the hell you deploy a parachute that is an add on? Adding prop guards to the mini 4 pro is going to put it over 250g too.. so does that count? Or is it JUST the drone + battery and it remains under 250g?

[@Pepesplants]

Greg, does that apply to recreational flights as well?

[@Virus1024x]

You can’t submit for any type of waiver without a part 107 so this would not apply to recreational flyers.

[@Pepesplants]

@@Virus1024x Thanks.

[@Thunderbyrd.]

Us recreational flyers will have to continue to be renegades.

[@Errr717]

@@Thunderbyrd. 🤣🤣🤣

[@kmoecub]

This is a great change. I'm a teacher and have been frustrated that I can't do a flyover of my students when we are outside learning about the world. This makes it easier to share what we do with parents and the community.

[@davidotterstrom8185]

Where do you find an anti collision light that is visable from a mile during the day? I have done a lot of testing over the past year and have never found a light that is that bright.

[@richardfeilden5494]

I came here to ask this. The Firehouse strobes are the usual go-to and against a sunny sky they vanish well below a 1/2 mile.

[@sebastienhameline6813]

Hi Greg! Thank you this update! In the waiver application, it requires a "proposed location, with the class of airspace we want to operate... How do we fill this? Unless for a planned specific project, we don't necessarily know what the airspace will be? (given it would be for all airpsaces that do not require a special waiver, outside the LAANC authorization). Thank you for the insight!

[@rickdavidson82]

My concern is the cost of an ASTM Parachute System. The prices I am seeing with the ASTM data for waivers is in the neighborhood of $2000. I think this was for the Phantom 4 V2. I am hoping more companies will develop parachute systems and the cost will come down some.

[@PilotInstitute]

R&D is expensive for these. You can likely make that money back in a few flights.

[@AndyPhu]

That price is absolutely mind-boggling.

[@eagle49624]

Think about the cost of product liability insurance.

[@primeideasconsulting]

The price of these Parachutes you might as well get a mini 4 pro to do away with that requirement. Until it is banned at least...

[@RamblinManMoto]

What does the light have to do with flying over people to avoid manned aircraft? Wouldn't that be a possible risk all the time?

[@BlacqueJacqueShellacque_]

I wish the waiver flying near airports could be easier. My house is 1 mile away from the end of a rarely used runaway at a busy regional airport (most takeoffs/landings are on perpendicular runways). I would like to use my drone to inspect my solar panels and roof. I won't be flying over 50 feet. If there is an airplane flying 50 feet over my house they are either in serious trouble already or a giant a-hole.

[@barryklempel2973]

50' is a great start for flat airport areas. I live in the city and the trees are around 75' If a aircraft is that low "Huston we have a Problem. Have a blessed day.

[@PilotInstitute]

You don’t need a waiver for that, you need airspace approval. Did you try to submit an approval via the FAA DroneZone or via Aloft AirControl.

[@goose45015]

Does the dji need a remote Id

[@Hamsc13]

@@PilotInstitute Im in the same position. Ive submitted several LAANC approvals always getting denied. Has the FAA updated reqirements on listening/ announcing your flight operations on VHF/Airband radios? Is it a requirement or just good practice?

[@beame2185]

I am in waking distance of hunter airfield,and have airspace authority to fly around my house.

[@AGL_AerialsTampa]

This is just fantastic! Will you be making a video for the Part 107 course? I'm positive that your video on the airspace waive is why I got approved.

[@AtortAerials]

It would be helpful to do a video on filling this waiver out so we can see exactly what is suggested to put in each area. Thanks.

[@Pooua]

I just got these new diamond-tip propeller blades for my drone and was flying it about 200 feet agl when something went wrong and my drone fell out of the sky. It came down like a comet! As it went past a building, its blades dug deep into the marble surface, leaving huge gouges all the way to the ground. When it hit, it left a crater five feet deep! You can see why it's so important that we have these regulations in place, because that happened three more times that day!

[@bh2562]

Five foot crater. Get real, 5 cm maybe. Hope you fly better than you measure. 12:54

[@Pooua]

@@bh2562 It was deadly. DEADLY, I TELL YOU! I'm glad the FAA is protecting the public from our dangerous drones!

[@MrDecessus]

@@bh2562 More like .005 cm maybe. My FPV more likely to fall apart than anything else if it fell from the sky.

[@drweip2892]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@innomind]

He's being sarcastic

[@Flo-cw2we]

Good video, thanks for the updates. Maybe consider making your older videos private so people dont waste their time on videos with old laws since drone laws are always changing. The one I speak of is your video from 3 years ago titled 'Dont fly over people until you watch this video'

[@PilotInstitute]

That video still has accurate information.

[@TheAnmracing]

This is fantastic news. Can't wait to get our waiver. Thanks for the update Greg.

[@dondupuis4007]

Greg, can you cover how the parachutes work and where to get them?

[@PilotInstitute]

We will have a video for this.

[@IndiaDelgado]

Thanks so much for the info! What’s the expected turnaround time for the waiver approvals?

[@captraykelly]

Great information, Greg. Thank you.

[@Michael.MikeMann]

Can you provide a link to an FAA document that outlines the new update? All I can find is the categories document under Part 107.39. Also, I've been trying to determine what category my DJI mini 4 pro falls under with the intelligent flight battery plus. I believe total weight will be around 290 grams.

[@JamesSimmons1964]

This is awesome!! Greg, since you are an insider; do you think they (the NPS) will open up National Parks with a waiver? Does the FAA have any influence? I mean . . . drones are proving to be safer than cars (and people) and both are allowed at NPs.

[@PilotInstitute]

Cars are not allowed everywhere in NP. The problem with drones is that they have flammable batteries which can cause issues. I don’t see the NPS changing their rules any time soon.

[@JamesSimmons1964]

@@PilotInstitute yeah the batteries . . . good point. Thanks Greg. I was referring to automobiles (and people) that do more damage to NPs than a drone ever would.

[@mattseavey9189]

I just got my waiver for operating over people and moving vehicles last night. It took six months, but worth the weight

[@beame2185]

Help, will pay not a great writer 😀

[@jopofoto]

Are you willing to share the language that you used to get the waiver? I just got denied. Best

[@michaelmccue3251]

DJI indicated that Avata 2 is not equipped with strobe, what after market strobe is recommended

[@mguiulfo]

This only apply for those who have part 107? Not for recreational.

[@PilotInstitute]

Part 107 only.

[@robinkmedia]

As someone who has a mini 2 without remote ID- I’m having a hard time figuring out how to mount the remote ID module and collision light at the same time. Any suggestions?

[@alphie61]

Any suggestions on how to word the Proposed Location of Operation section of the waiver?

[@nirkitaro]

Thank you for this update, love the channel 🎉💜

[@dr.gregoryf.maassen2637]

Would also appreciate another update on drone parachute technology. I saw your Manti 3 review and it is certainly something I will look into. Thanks for sharing.

[@RobDewis]

According to this from the FAA, with a DJI Mini 2 using RFI Module, prop guards, I don't need to apply for any waiver in uncontrolled airspace. If I fly at night, I need to add a light. Does that sound right? "Part 107 Waivers The Operations Over People rule became effective on April 21, 2021. Drone pilots operating under Part 107 may fly at night, over people and moving vehicles without a waiver as long as they meet the requirements defined in the rule. Airspace authorizations are still required for night operations in controlled airspace under 400 feet."

[@PilotInstitute]

A mini 2 needs prop guards which takes it over 250 grams, which means it no longer qualifies to fly over people.

[@selectshotsmedia]

Can you obtain this waiver for recreation or is just for commercial flyers?

[@toh2002]

Can you clarify the rule on transitioning over people, (not a crowd or public gathering)? I have heard from other KZbin channels that as long as you are just transitioning over people and not loitering, hovering or circling them you are ok.

[@PilotInstitute]

Nope, they are unfortunately incorrect. To transition over people, you still need a categorized drone or a a waiver, and this can only be done under part 107 (not recreationally).

[@markkempton4579]

I'm still unclear on whether this covers OOMV. Greg has said a few times that it does not. People in Vic's group have said to check both boxes on the waiver application. But will the new, more limited questions/responses be valid for 107.145? I don't want to delay my application if it does not.

[@PilotInstitute]

You can get OOMV but with limitations. We got it with ours. So feel free to fill it out when submitting your application.

[@markkempton4579]

@@PilotInstitute thank you! I wasn't prepared to write a whole kinetic force lecture, but I'll take whatever I can get as it's just a bonus for me so I don't feel bad crossing a road. Lol

[@newportfilms]

I have the need to fly over a small boat doing donuts with 2 passengers to promote a boating adventure business. Is there a special waiver for an operation like that, that doesn't make me have to get a parachute? There operators of the boat understand what I'm doing and give me permission. Thanks!

[@johnanthonycreative]

Just submitted mine, let’s see how long it takes

[@johnconnor6725]

Looks at old phantom something or whatever's airplane props I like to fly with wondering how I'm build guards for it ? ? ?

[@wyolife7157]

Parachute system 150.00. Once ASTM certified, 1600.00. Looks like I have another reason to buy a Mini series.

[@tomekp2252]

Which parachute is approved for dji air 3 ?

[@saudmunawar2050]

Is this for recreational as well or part 107 only?

[@PilotInstitute]

Part 107 only. You cannot fly over people recreationally.

[@IslandDigital]

How long is the waiver good for?

[@PilotInstitute]

A few years.

[@DanielBates71]

Collision with manned aircraft when your drone is under 400 feet? Are we flying over runways or are the manned aircraft barnstorming the people that we're trying to fly over?

[@PilotInstitute]

Plenty of helicopters legally flying below 400 feet.

[@GayleKakac-UAS]

Greg what Part # reflects these new changes?

[@TheSaint226]

So question... 2:15 on the RID... I thought if we use the Mini4 with the default battery, RID is disabled, and only enables when you use the extended battery. So will we have to fly with the extended battery so RID works, or has that changed?

[@PilotInstitute]

Correct, you would need the larger battery or use a module.

[@shawnavery1369]

@@PilotInstituteDJI states “Do not use the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus after installing the propeller guard. Otherwise, the weight will overload the drone's capacity, and flight safety cannot be guaranteed.” Thoughts? Is this going to overload the motors or just reduce performance?

[@carefree68]

Hi Greg. I have a DJI Mini 2 Ultralight 199g Japanese version. With prop guard, remote ID module, and strobe light - the whole thing weighs 249g. Can I fly over people without FAA waiver?

[@PilotInstitute]

Yes, it qualifies as category 1.

[@infinityphotorob]

So for sub 250 with RID and prop guards it is all the same right? No waiver needed? Or waiver now?

[@PilotInstitute]

No waiver, that's a category 1 drone.

[@infinityphotorob]

@@PilotInstitute man you would not believe the crap I got on a FB group posting a crowd video showing off a tiny whoop job at an event. There is so much bad info on this topic. I am getting on the waiver though. Maybe a reason to buy an Avata 2.

[@stephenwarriner5137]

You have to be careful though. Adding prop guards and anti collision light might put your craft over 249g. Also, if you're a Mini 4, RID won't work unless you are using the larger battery which puts you over 249g.

[@infinityphotorob]

@@stephenwarriner5137 I am below 200 with RID guards and a battery.

[@leadsled213]

I believe I saw a video saying that the Mavic Enterprise series does not require a waiver with the automatic parachute system. Is this correct?

[@PilotInstitute]

That’s correct now. With the AVSS parachute, it is category 2.

[@innomind]

If I install propeller guards on the Mini 3pro, will I still need the waiver? It's only 249 grams..

[@PilotInstitute]

Yes, because it's not 249g with the prop guards.

[@clancysmith3402]

I have the DJI Mini 4 Pro with intelligent batteries. How do I find how many kinetic foot pounds my drone would deliver upon impact? This is the last part I am waiting for so I know which category my drone falls under before I submit my request.

[@PilotInstitute]

You don’t really calculate that. Your mini is not a categorized drone so you would have to go through the waiver process to be able to fly over people.

[@clancysmith3402]

@@PilotInstituteWhen I apply for the waiver don’t I have to categorize it under one of the 4? Obviously 1 and 4 don’t fit my criteria at all. And I have the prop guards and appropriate lighting. How do I fill out a waiver without categorization?

[@kentmoyer]

Does your company submit waivers for companies? We already have a fly-over people waiver but need to renew it with fewer restrictions.

[@robertjensen4636]

I was just at an event, and as usual, no propeller guards for those flying their drones over people, and no observer standing by.

[@jmorrison5206]

But did you die?

[@beame2185]

Some reasons why some will love the band. Some people just don’t like following simple rules.

[@Heather-dj6pi]

Is this only offered for part 107 pilots?

[@PilotInstitute]

Yes.

[@nnandicason9216]

Is the waiver available to be filled out currently? I've been searching for it for a couple hours and can't find it.

[@OranJuno]

Did you find it? I'm still searching. The web application on Drone Zone still asks if it is category 2 or 3

[@kuscheiart]

For what country are you talking amd what is the FAA?

[@PilotInstitute]

United States. FAA: Federal Aviation Administration.

[@socalifornia1628]

I see the StartRC guards for the Mini 3 Pro are much lighter, and provide less prop protection than some of the others. Specifically, the top of the props remain exposed. Any idea how the FAA will look at this? Would the StartRC qualify for this waiver? And thanks for the update!

[@PilotInstitute]

The FAA won’t look at what product you use. They just want you to put props on that prevent lacerations. It’s up to you, as the pilot, to decide if this is enough protection and if it exposes you to more or less liability.

[@RavensEyeOffroad]

YES!!! is this active on the FAA website yet? (searched but I didnt see it)

[@PilotInstitute]

It is active but they are updating the PDF with more info.

[@stephenwarriner5137]

I had the same problem. Could only find the old rules not the new ones

[@OranJuno]

​@@stephenwarriner5137did you find it yet?

[@TheSaint226]

So I applied (I have a Mini 4 Pro) and got a request for more information. This is what I received... "With respect to § 107.39: You did not describe the proposed operation in detail, including the purpose of the operations. With respect to § 107.145: You did not describe the proposed operation in detail, including the purpose of the operations. Any advice on what I need to reply so this will get approved? I want to be able to do drone photography and videography. Not sure what else I should put. Help!!!

[@jimgunderson6439]

Is there a parachute for the Air 3?

[@user-es6ip5bb6m]

if you have a

[@primeideasconsulting]

If you fly under part 107 you are required to have RID. I can only assume you don't, so just so you know waivers are only for part 107 pilots.

[@ShaneInseine]

Is a Part 107 required for this waiver?

[@wolfpack4694]

Yes. Only for Part 107

[@joshuawilson3388]

How many drones collided with manned aircraft in the list 10 years?

[@pdfp24]

42

[@tomrehkopf9793]

All well and good, but this is only for Part 107 pilots, right? It would be VERY helpful to state this up front, this is not obvious to those of us who don’t do this every day. Thanks!

[@PilotInstitute]

Part 107 only, indeed.

[@SoaringFaithProductions]

Do you need to have the part 107 license to apply for the waiver?

[@PilotInstitute]

Yes.

[@ChampsX5]

How can we find a list of parachutes that are ASTM approved?

[@PilotInstitute]

The sellers should have that on their website. Look at AVSS and ParaZero, both have ASTM approved models.

[@rogermarcoux4467]

Has anyone flown much with the pro guards on a Mini 4 Pro? I flew once and it was extremely erratic, and I have never put them on again. I know it has to switch to pro guards mode, but the spazzing out was enough for me not to try it again and I can't imagine how bad it would handle in the wind.

[@bruce8448]

Is there specific details on the propeller guards?

[@PilotInstitute]

No specific details for that.

[@johnkeo358]

Is this for 107 pilots only or for both categories?

[@PilotInstitute]

Yes part 107 only!

[@johnkeo358]

@PilotInstitute very understandable, good thing I'm studying for my 107.

[@pacogamino]

Great news Greg! Thanks! Will share

[@droneden7802]

Does the waiver cover your fleet of drones if you list each one out in the request, or do you need a separate waiver for each drone?

[@PilotInstitute]

It will cover more than one drone.

[@yecatsbearcat9117]

Curb your enthusiasm! Now what did I do with my Avata? Thanks PI Team!

[@harrysimpsonimages]

Prop guards turn off OA. What's your view on this trade off?

[@PilotInstitute]

You should be able to fly without OA in pretty much any situations. Prop guards will be safer than OA.

[@snipermconeshot]

I love that the drones I fly are sitting on that table.

[@jacobhoke1000]

What is turnaround time on approval?

[@BeetleDronesMedia]

Can you act as your own VO or will the FAA expect you to have a designated person as your VO?

[@PilotInstitute]

You cannot act as your own VO.

[@jimothy4272]

Does the Mavic 2 Enterprise Advanced have an approved parachute system?

[@markkempton4579]

The Enterprise line should. The limitation is currently the lack of API/SDK for the consumer Mavics - there's no way for the parachute system to instruct the drone to kill the props.

[@mot1thom]

Will this waiver also cover the other provisions of OOP - transitioning over vehicles, and open air assemblies?

[@PilotInstitute]

Yes but you need to apply for it.

[@AtortAerials]

Am I missing something or are you providing a link to where we get the waiver? Thanks!

[@PilotInstitute]

faadronezone.faa.gov

[@OranJuno]

​@@PilotInstitutethe only web waiver form I found asks "operation category" with category 2, 3, and "not compliant". I thought they did away with the category 2 and 3 stuff for the waiver

[@ML_1515]

Does this allow to fly over open-air assemblies?

[@PilotInstitute]

Yes, with some caveats in the waiver.

[@bobkubik1140]

Are these waivers only for Part 107 pilots, or can I apply for one as a recreational flyer?

[@PilotInstitute]

Only for part 107.

[@TylerHilliard]

Now I want a parachute for my Air 3. Can you push companies to make that happen?

[@canaweb]

Unapproved, maybe $200 cost. Approved will probably be $1500.

[@Chris_Love]

I need to look into this, FAA is not valid for me though since living in Sweden but our similar authority should have this waiver to, right?

[@pdfp24]

In Sweden you will need to submit and operations manual and a SORA (risk assessment) showing how you will operate and operate safely and then you’ll be granted an OA (operational authorisation).

[@Magnate-np5uu]

Do I need to pass part 107 before I can apply for waiver?

[@PilotInstitute]

Yes.

[@airheadbit1984]

Weird, I purchased a Avata 2 yesterday for the 'speed' and being able to fly indoors during bad weather, now I discovered I can use it to for video, it does have a decent camera...

[@txarchdroneguy4731]

Thx, for the great news, Greg

[@z3ljk0]

so we only have to do this once for multiple locations? wow if that is correct, definitely not regretting getting the mini. Now to go and find the guards lol

[@JEE1971]

Awesome news! Is the waiver link available here?

[@add9197]

What about DJI Neo?

[@leeevans4401]

Which parachute is ASTM certified for the Mavic 3 Enterprise?

[@PilotInstitute]

Parazero and I think soon AVSS.

[@annettehurd9391]

Do you think they will approve it for a real estate agent?

[@cashmoneysniper]

It's been a while since I passed the P107 exam. OOP is allowed with a drone

[@nilodavila12]

What's the specific waiver document name?

[@levi_marc_]

Great! An ASTM Parachute costs as much as my drone! 1-2k